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Channel log from 17 June 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<Yigal>
Hi Guys... if anyone here that was helping me 9 hours ago - it's WORKING NOW!!! thanks - I have a server-thin client working , and the problem was so stupid, as expected
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<jasonrsmith>
great, yigal!
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<Yigal>
next issue: is how to manage it. Let me know if there is a document with recommendations for accounts management, setup, how do I monitor the useresm etc
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<jasonrsmith>
what did you figure out?
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<Yigal>
the problem was:
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<jasonrsmith>
yigal, if you find such a document, please let me know lol
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<Yigal>
I chose wrong entry from ROMATIC to the NIC. Now I used another computer which can netwrok boot
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<sbalneav>
yigal: edubuntu has thin client manager included
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And setting up accounts is done from System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
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<Yigal>
thanks
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<sbalneav>
There's plenty of documentation included
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System -> Help and Support
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<sbalneav>
yawn
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time for bed
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night all
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<Yigal>
I noticed there is a "control package" in Edubuntu, which shows the clients connected and deliver ability to control it. Any idea how to install it in Ubuntu?
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<Burgundavia>
it is just a package like any other
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<Yigal>
i guess, but what is the name of that package?
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<Burgundavia>
thin-client-manager-gnome
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<Yigal>
thanks
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<nsar>
hello ppl
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<nsar>
on ltsp 4.2u2 seems that there is a weird bug that interact with centos 5 i don´t know if the bug is in the ltsp or the scripts of Xorg when i start gdm-binary with init 5 but when i exit from a client the client restarts normaly but also the console (the main computer) restart also complain that in the display :0 runs already an X server and asking me if i wish to start the x server again on another display lets say :1 :2 :3 etc does anyone have any clue abou
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t this problem? thanks
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kalimera
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can somebody help me to solve this problem?
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<vagrantc>
!seen stillflame
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: stillflame was last seen in #ltsp 8 weeks, 0 days, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <stillflame> vagrantc: reinstalling the server fixed it. weird.
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<Lossie>
Nvidia drivers on thin client, anyone?
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<sbalneav>
Ummm, care to elaborate on that question somewhat? :)
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<sbalneav>
Are you wondering if they work? Having trouble installing them? etc.
09:33
Morning vagrantc
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You still in EU?
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<vagrantc>
UK
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<sbalneav>
Cool. Oh, right, it's DEBCONF time isn't it?
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<vagrantc>
been rocking it out at the debconf, yeah
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sbalneav: newer version of ltspfs in debian unstable than in ubuntu, even :)
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<sbalneav>
Cool.
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: and a new ltsp upload to debian ...
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<sbalneav>
Did you touch up ldm to reflect the move to /var/run/ldm_socket?
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<vagrantc>
yup
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<sbalneav>
I must have forseen the move away from /etc/fstab, there was nothing to moving it to /var/run/ltspfs_fstab
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<vagrantc>
also uploaded to debian-edu
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<sbalneav>
Cool!
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<Lossie>
don't know how to install them
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: haven't incorporated the crazy stuff that ogra's been doing in ubuntu with nbd and squashfs... but we should definitely test it.
09:41
sbalneav: actually, we should try your greeter, too
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all the debian LTSP crew is here
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<sbalneav>
Lossie: Well, you may not need them. Have you tried the "nv" driver already in X?
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: or, your ldm
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: heh, mine's pretty rough yet. Lets wait a month :)
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: you're one of those lone wolf coders :P
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<Lossie>
it is not that x isn't working but aren't the nvidia drivers better
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<sbalneav>
Lossie: Sure, for 3D performance. But that's not going to work too well in LTSP anyway :)
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vagrantc: heh, no, I'd love people to look at the source.
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But once it becomes a Debian package, isn't it supposed to be finished? :)
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: well, there is "experimental"
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<sbalneav>
I'm sitting here looking at adding an rc.d feature.
09:43
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: it would make it easier to get feedback
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<Lossie>
sbalneav, it should ;-)
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<sbalneav>
Lossie: Nah, it shouldn't. Thin clients aren't for 3d work.
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vagrantc: sure, package it up.
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just expect to do a lot of RE packaging on it in the next few weeks :)
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: that's what experiemental is for :)
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<Lossie>
True, but berryl would make it nice dough
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<sbalneav>
Lossie: ugh
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<Lossie>
:-)
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: as long as it's not "break your system" kind of code, it should be fine if it kind of works
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<sbalneav>
Some people may like it, however, beryl/compiz etc are, IMHO the BIGGEST wastes of time ever.
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<Lossie>
:-)
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: Shouldn't break anything.
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<Lossie>
ok ok
09:47
other question: Any help on speading up ldm
09:47
is there any progress?
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<sbalneav>
3d's a problem in a thin client environment, because all those drawing instructions have to go over the wire.
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<Lossie>
on its development
09:48
<sbalneav>
I'm working on it right now.
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: you got a bzr branch to play with ?
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<sbalneav>
Sure!
09:49
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sbalneav/ltsp/scotts-gutsy
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ldm2's in the ldm2-0.1, and the greeter's in the ldmgtkgreet-0.1 dir.
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: would be better to just kill the old directories and files, i think ...
09:51
ah well, i guess we can do that when it's ready
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<sbalneav>
yeah, that was my thought
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I'm still a little hazy on packaging, so I wasn't sure how to make it so it built all the packages. So I just left them as unconnected directories.
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I'm considering it a major coup d'etat that I'm actually comfortable using bzr now :)
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<Lossie>
you'r coding ldm ?
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link is a 404 btw
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<sbalneav>
I didn't code the python one, although I did contribute some patches.
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<vagrantc>
Lossie: it's a bzr URL
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Lossie: bzr get URL
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<sbalneav>
I'm recoding a new one in C
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<vagrantc>
Lossie: not a browseable URL
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<Lossie>
my mistake
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<vagrantc>
http://code..launchpad.net/~sbalneav/ltsp/scotts-gutsy if you want to take a look
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<Lossie>
ah c, when you love performance
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<vagrantc>
oops
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also http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~sbalneav/ltsp/scotts-gutsy
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<Lossie>
can i compile and try it, or wouldn't it do much yet?
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<sbalneav>
It's not packaged yet, so you'd have to manually compile it, the greeter, and manually install it.
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within the chroot
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<Lossie>
can't be that difficult, does it need certain dependencies?
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<sbalneav>
no
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ok, kids are haranguing me to make breakfast.
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Why *I* need to do that on fathers' day is beyond me.... :)
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However, duty calls.
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be on later
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<Lossie>
sbalneav|AFK, goog luck!
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Now to figure out how to download
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<vagrantc>
bzr get URL
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<vagrantc>
apparently requires gtk+ 2.2
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<Lossie>
after some struggeling with automake, i think i'll wait until the package is released :-)
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Go sbalneav Go!
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<vagrantc>
heh
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<Lossie>
i didn't get it compiled
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<Yigal>
hi sbalneav, cliebow, burgundavia and the others that supported me. I just popped to say THANKS. My server is working, I run 3 clients, booting from PXE and floppy. I also summarized the flow I went through in Ubuntu forum.
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yet I have one last question: can I install again the network manager, removed by mistake? can it damage the "2 NICs system"?
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<sbalneav>
Shouldn't
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Shouldn't damage it
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Which forum?
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<Yigal>
servers and community. I had a typo in the subject, so its called: "thic lient" .....
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<sbalneav>
Link?
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<jammcq>
hey
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<sbalneav>
Well, so much for the Unichrome driver :)
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back
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Yigal: sorry, did you post the link?
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<Yigal>
wait a sec
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: yeah, we missed you
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<Yigal>
ttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2862265#post2862265
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<sbalneav>
hmmm, might disappear again here.
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brb
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<xsarg>
hi
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