IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 17 June 2017   (all times are UTC)

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03:47
<cyberorg>
bcg, ./configure --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/...
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07:12
<gudbes>
hello
07:13
i try to install lpst on my debian ... but i have a problem with the pxe connection
07:14
PXE-T02 : Option negotation failure file not found or inaccessible ?)
07:14
PXE-E3C : TFTP Error - Access Violation
07:17
I think that my problem is in the dhcpd.conf (bad way) but i change everything but not working
07:24
<quinox>
try checking the tftp logs
07:26
for me it's "grep tftp /var/log/syslog"
07:32
<gudbes>
hi quinox i watch it now ^^
07:34
the log with grep tftp is blank
07:39
<quinox>
does it use the correct IP address for tftp booting?
07:40
you can also try "grep tftp /var/log/*" to see if they are stored in some other file
07:58
<alkisg>
quinox: which tutorial did you use for the installation? Which tftp server are you using? dnsmasq or tftpd-hpa?
07:58
*sorry, gudbes
08:02
<gudbes>
hi alkisg .... i used your tuto and the debian tuto on the website "https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto"
08:02
<alkisg>
When you say "my tutorial", do you mean this?
08:02
!ltsp-pnp
08:02
<ltsp`>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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08:04
<gudbes>
yes
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08:04
<alkisg>
OK then I assume you have dnsmasq installed. What's the output of this command? su -; ltsp-info
08:04
Put it to pastebin
08:08
<gudbes>
https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
08:08
oups :/
08:08
https://paste.debian.net/971810/
08:10
<alkisg>
Well, my tutorial doesn't include chroots; you have 3 chroots
08:10
<bcg>
cyberorg: sure, I know configure parameters. The problem was that top level makefile was using prefix for so files, plugins-level makefile used libexecdir for same so files.
08:10
forcing libdir = libexecdir in configure is The Wrong Way.
08:11
<alkisg>
gudbes: what's the output of this command? But run it as root: netstat -nap | grep :69
08:11
<bcg>
Fixing makefiles to use same libdir define in both places is correct...
08:13
<gudbes>
alkisg : I will restart my install with your tuto only and i say you when i have a problem ... it's more easy no ?
08:13
<alkisg>
gudbes: how many clients will you have? What is their CPU and RAM?
08:14
<bcg>
alkisg: should I use launchpad's bug tracker for merge requests?
08:14
<alkisg>
bcg: yes
08:15
bcg: try to separate those that affect common code, with those that only affect rhel code
08:15
<gudbes>
2 clients with core 2 duo and 4go
08:15
<alkisg>
bcg: because it'll be much easier to accept rhel code without much review, if it doesn't touch any common files
08:15
bcg: while common code will need review, and e.g. there aren't many that will be reviewing makefile changes...
08:16
gudbes: why did you select jessie instead of stretch or ubuntu 16.04?
08:16
<bcg>
i'll create ldm request first, it's easier.
08:16
<alkisg>
ok
08:17
<gudbes>
alkisg: because i love debian ^^
08:17
<alkisg>
bcg: and it would be nice if we had one user that could test your code. I think there was some mike here asking about it? It would be nice if we had a "works for me too" from someone
08:17
gudbes: and that means that you want the old debian and not the new one?
08:18
Stretch is the new debian, you got Jessie
08:18
<gudbes>
jessie is stable stretch is testing
08:19
<alkisg>
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2017/20170527
08:19
Stretch was in RC4 a month ago
08:19
I.e. it'll be out in less than a month or so
08:20
The installer currently might be the same as the one in the time of the release
08:20
So using an old debian and an old ltsp at this point doesn't sound good
08:21
Anyway, it's your call; just don't expect software devs to bother with old software bugs
08:22
If you want to do the ltsp-pnp setup, you would need to delete your chroots
08:22
<bcg>
alkisg: I've created lot of small commits in ltsp. All commits starting with "Redhat" are rhel specific and touches only Redhat subdirs., There are couple for common code too. So it should be simple to review. But ldm first, ltsp later.
08:22
<alkisg>
OK
08:22
<gudbes>
alkisg: https://www.debian.org the download is in version 8.8
08:23
<alkisg>
gudbes: did you read anything from what I said? :/
08:23
In a couple of weeks, the download there will be debian 9
08:23
And you'll have the old version because you didn't want to try the new debian, when it's going to be released in a couple of weeks
08:24
Anyways, I'm not here to convince you on which debian to use; use whatever you like
08:24
<gudbes>
alkisg: ok i will testing the new version ;)
08:29
i download now the version 9 and i install after ... i take your tuto and i come back if i have a problem
08:30
alkisg: thank you for your help :)
08:30
<alkisg>
np
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08:36
<bcg>
alkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1698523 for ldm.
08:37
<alkisg>
bcg: very nice; unfortunately I can't really review this as it involves makefiles etc, hopefully sbalneav will have some time to review it
08:42
<bcg>
sbalneav: ping? :-)
08:45
<alkisg>
Sometimes sbalneav is active... sometimes he doesn't respond for months... :/
08:45
<bcg>
In https://git.launchpad.net/~bcgss/ltsp/+git/ltsp-rhel7/log/?h=master there seems to be 8 non-redhat commits, two of them are whitespace-removals.
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08:47
<alkisg>
I don't think other distros use a "mock" chroot; wouldn't that too be rhel specific?
08:47
<bcg>
Yes, but it touches common code.
08:48
<alkisg>
vmlinuz-hmac too
08:48
<bcg>
Same again.
08:48
<alkisg>
Ah ok, it's a labelling issue; you say "Redhat" only when it doesn't touch common code
08:49
<bcg>
Yes. "Redhat" for redhat subdirs.
08:50
<alkisg>
Sure, that's fine. Personally if I could get a "works for me too" from anyone, I'd commit all of them.
08:50
Otherwise I'd have to look into them to some more detail...
08:51
bcg: where are you located, if you don't mind me asking?
08:51
<bcg>
I'll have to create rhel-packaging repo with rpm spec files etc before you can get "works for me too" from mike.
08:52
I'm in Turku, Finland.
08:52
<alkisg>
Cool, similar timezone with me :)
08:52
It would make it hard for you to attend an ltsp bts (sprint) though :D
08:52
<bcg>
Similar or -1h I guess. 11:52 now.
08:52
<alkisg>
Same here
08:53
sbalneav: are we going to do an ltsp sprint/bts in debconf17 in montreal? at least 3 ltsp devs will be there!!!
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13:03
<gudbes_>
alkisg: For information : In the session Installation in the command apt-get install there is Twice the packet dnsmasq
13:04
<alkisg>
gudbes_: if you're talking about "ltsp-config dnsmasq", this is a separate line that is not part of apt-get install
13:04
Also note that these are ubuntu instructions, so e.g. you won't have ldm-ubuntu-theme in debian
13:05
<gudbes_>
ok :/ isorry :):)
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13:11
<gudbes_>
the command add-apt-repository don't working but i think because i use debian
13:13
<alkisg>
Indeed
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13:16
<gudbes_>
https://paste.debian.net/971842
13:17
<alkisg>
Where in the tutorial it says to install yaboot?!
13:17
<gudbes_>
the command /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels display it
13:18
<alkisg>
it says "if you need it"
13:18
<gudbes_>
but i don't need it maybe ?
13:18
<alkisg>
You don't have a mac, so you don't need it, yes
13:18
<gudbes_>
;)
13:18
<alkisg>
And that's why it's not there in the tutorial
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13:19
<gudbes_>
I thought it was a mistake to cause the add-apt-repository command that does not work at home
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14:22
<gudbes_>
alkisg: i finished my install but my thin pc wan't boot to pxe
14:22
https://paste.debian.net/971847
14:23
in the tuto i haven't /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 mais amd64 it's a problem ?
14:25
<alkisg>
You said the client is 64bit, right?
14:25
Then it's not a problem, no
14:26
gudbes_: I don't have much time to help via chat; do you want remote support? I have a few minutes...
14:26
!vnc-dide
14:26
<ltsp`>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
14:26
<gudbes_>
ok
14:26
it's a vm
14:27
<alkisg>
Did you set it to bridged networking?
14:27
If it's NAT, it can't provide DHCP services...
14:27
<gudbes_>
it's ok
14:28
root
14:28
<alkisg>
I think you're using kvm in nat mode
14:29
<gudbes_>
kvm ?
14:29
<alkisg>
What VM is this?
14:29
VirtualBox? Vmware? KVM?
14:29
<gudbes_>
virtualbox
14:29
<alkisg>
What is your host? Windows?
14:29
<gudbes_>
no debian
14:29
<alkisg>
OK, vnc from the host
14:29
!vnc-dide
14:29
<ltsp`>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
14:30
<alkisg>
Do you know the difference between NAT and Bridged modes?
14:30
You have NAT, you need bridged to have an LTSP server in a VM
14:31
Your client, is it VM or real?
14:32
<gudbes_>
vm
14:32
for testing
14:32
<alkisg>
Can you test with real client?
14:34
gudbes_: run the SERVER VM again
14:35
<gudbes_>
ip fix is runnig on my vm
14:35
<alkisg>
login
14:42
gudbes_: ok, the main problem was that you were trying in a VM without knowing what NAT/bridged modes are
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14:42
<gudbes_>
wonderful
14:42
:)
14:42
<alkisg>
:)
14:42
<gudbes_>
thank you very very much
14:42
<alkisg>
No problem, closing vnc...
14:42
<gudbes_>
i understand my error :)
14:43
<alkisg>
That's a good start!
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14:43
<gudbes_>
thank you !!!!!!
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