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Channel log from 3 March 2011   (all times are UTC)

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06:34
<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
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<highvoltage>
good morning mgariepy
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<gypsymauro>
hi :)
08:35
I'm using ubuntu 10.10 with ltsp, I built the client but on an old hardware with integrated VGA chipset (lspci says SIS 65xx) the resolution is low (800 x 600) any hint?
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<highvoltage>
gypsymauro: how much video memory is allocatd to that VGA card?
08:45
gypsymauro: if it's an integrated chip you could try giving it some more memory in the bios, if it's an off-board card with only 1MB RAM you might have to set the colour depth down to 16 bit
08:45
<gypsymauro>
highvoltage: how to know? :)
08:46
highvoltage: tank you, but where can I set those options? and can I set it just for one client?
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<highvoltage>
gypsymauro: first do lspci, then get the pci ID (like 00:02.0), then do lspci -v 00:02.0
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gypsymauro: it should show you how much display memory you have on that card
08:48
I mean, lspcu -v -s 00:02.0
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s/lspcu/lspcu/ (more haste less speed :) )
08:48
ok, one more time:
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lspci -v -s 00:02.0
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<gypsymauro>
highvoltage: it says 128Mb of prefetchable
08:55
doh.. http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg30801.html it points to http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/VideoCards#Setting_resolution but it doens't exists :(
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<highvoltage>
gypsymauro: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream and http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/lts.conf.5.html may be of use
09:12
<gypsymauro>
highvoltage: tanx there is a way to associate a MAC address to a specific hostname?
09:13
I found
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<alkisg>
gypsymauro: that's usually because the driver can't read the monitor timings. What resolution do you want to set, e.g. 1024x768@85 Hz?
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09:43
<gypsymauro>
alkisg: 1280X1024@60
09:44
I found a mail where McQuillan says to add X4_MODULE_01 = glx http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg20004.html
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but isn't using Xorg the 5?
09:44
so maybe the syntax is not correct
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09:46
<gypsymauro>
I've to run ltsp-update-image
09:46
on every lts.conf change?
09:48
<alkisg>
gypsymauro: no.
09:48
You just need to add the following:
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X_HORZSYNC=33-100
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X_VERTREFRESH=59-61
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XRANDR_MODE_0=1280x1024
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And maybe you also need this:
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XRANDR_RATE_0=60
09:49
Put those to lts.conf and just reboot the client
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<gypsymauro>
alkisg: it seems it doesn't loads the conf I set for that mac address
09:54
<alkisg>
gypsymauro: put your lts.conf to pastebin
09:54
!pastebin
09:55
Hmm the bot is down
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ltsp.pastebin.com
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<ltspbot`>
alkisg: "pastebin" :: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
09:57
<gypsymauro>
http://ltsp.pastebin.com/tdw7isUQ
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<alkisg>
gypsymauro: read line 11 of the file you pasted
09:57
It's in caps
09:57
After you read it, put the contents in the correct place :)
09:58
In /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<gypsymauro>
uhm in.tftpd[9482]: RRQ from 192.168.1.176 filename /lts.conf it seems it search for /lts.conf and not /ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<alkisg>
Do you have anything special in you dhcpd.conf?
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<gypsymauro>
uhm I'm using a folderish configuration with a pxelinux menu to boot 3-4 things
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<alkisg>
gypsymauro: also, don't force xserver unless you see that it's not properly autodetected
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gypsymauro: can you pastebin your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf?
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<gypsymauro>
alkisg: I'm using a windows dhcp :) doh.. there is the root path param that points effectively to /opt/ltsp/i386
10:06
(017)
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<gypsymauro>
alkisg: I solved
10:25
tanx you :) now it works
10:25
<alkisg>
Heh I was talking to you but didn't realize I had network problems :D
10:25
<gypsymauro>
lol
10:25
<alkisg>
You're welcome
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<gypsymauro>
btw I had to put the file in the root of tftp and delete it from /opt..
10:28
so the tips in the file is wrong on ubuntu 10.10
10:28
<alkisg>
No, the problem is your dhcp server
10:28
This is what I was telling you:
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The significant for lts.conf is not the root path, it's the boot filename
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So, for "PXEClient" you send "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"
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For clients *other* than "PXEClient", what do you send? That part is used to locate lts.conf
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(root path is only used for NFS, i.e. it's not used in Ubuntu)
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If you don't manage to fix your windows dhcp server settings, just make a symlink from /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<gypsymauro>
I use as boot image /pxelinux.0
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then I've a menu
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with some folders
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<alkisg>
That's why it searches /lts.conf
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<gypsymauro>
oh
10:28
ok
10:28
I done a link then
10:28
:)
10:28
<alkisg>
Yup, or just put it to /lts.conf as you did
10:28
Gotta go, bbl
10:29
<gypsymauro>
bb
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<jmarris>
hi, all
12:42
I thought it would be fun to try to boot android-x86 from an edubuntu server
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12:42
<jmarris>
not sure if anyone has tried this yet
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<jmarris>
basically I copied all the .img and .sfs files from the ISO to an android subdirectory under tftpboot
12:43
I have pxelinux.0 and pxelinux.cfg/default under tftpboot as well
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in pxelinux.cfg/default I have an option for android
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for the kernel I have android/kernel
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then
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append ro initrd=android/initrd.img quiet splash root=android/system.sfs
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<alkisg>
And? It booted?
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<jmarris>
nope
12:57
I get "Detecting Android-x86......"
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I'm reading the isolinux.cfg included on the iso, and comparing it with what I have in pxelinux.cfg/default
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I'm not sure how to get the ramdisk decompressed on the client end
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#android-x86 is dead atm
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<garymc>
join #css
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<jmarris>
funny, garymc
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I'm sure they can help me decompress a ramdisk without knowing where to put it
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<jmarris>
so here's my line now: append initrd=android/initrd.img root=/dev/ram0 loop=android/system.sfs looptype=squashfs androidboot_hardware=generic_x86 acpi_sleep=s3_bios,s3_mode video=-16 quiet splash SRC= DATA= DPI=240
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<jmarris>
still the same message. Thought this might be an interesting jumping point for ltsp, since android's going to be a mainstream interface for mobile users, and likely for students in the future. I was hoping to show it to my students this way. guess I can just burn a bunch of disks
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<pingpangqui>
good evening alkisg
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and everyone else ofcourse
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alksig: do you remember my ldm problem from yesterday
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I'm getting closer to the solution
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what I found out is that it is just my account that fails to login (actually it seems that I logged in and automatically logged out after that)
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but everyone else can login
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might there something wrong with the user id 1000
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thats what I have
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<alkisg>
When I last saw that I had to bisect my ~/.gconf settings
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Moving half of them out of the way, seeing if I could log in, then moving the other half out of the way etc
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After extensive digging I pinpointed it was a compiz problem :)
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I don't know anything else that could cause that though
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So... try bisecting :)
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<pingpangqui>
well you told me so yesterday
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ok
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<Gadi>
did you move your home directory at some point?
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<alkisg>
Start with: logout && log in from console && mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf-old && login again
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<pingpangqui>
well though I don't know why I should have a different .gconf than the other user
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<alkisg>
If that works, it's a gconf settings issue
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<pingpangqui>
ok thanks I'll try this
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<Gadi>
gconf is stupid as it places hard-coded paths in files in .gconf/
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path like: /home/user/...
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if you move /home/user to /home/local/user, you will run into all sorts of issues
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<alkisg>
Right. But I believe specific apps are to be blamed for this, not gconf...
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<Gadi>
apps like gnome ;)
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<alkisg>
Touche
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<pingpangqui>
well what alkisg said didn't work
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although having a fresh .gconf directory ldm stills fails to login gnome
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Gadi: any ideas
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?
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<Gadi>
did you check ~/.xsession-errors
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for that user
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<pingpangqui>
nope but I'll do
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mthanks for the hint
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<Gadi>
also, try removing: .gnome2/monitors.xml
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perhaps you set a resolution or something that is causing gnome to croak
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<pingpangqui>
well thats what I get
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/etc/gdm3/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
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GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-BfFJ0w
15:36Last message repeated 2 time(s).
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<pingpangqui>
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-BfFJ0w/ssh
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<vagrantc>
komunista: doh. i fogot to follow-up on the translation stuff
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<komunista>
vagrantc: no problem here :-)
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<komunista>
today, tomorrow, past tomorrow... live is nice, only one timeout is here (death)...
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<vagrantc>
heh
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<pingpangqui>
thanks Gadi
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I'll out what you said
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hopefully I'll find a solution soon
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good night
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<Gadi>
/etc/gdm3/Xsession?
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guess Im not in Kansas anymore, Toto
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<komunista>
vagrantc: tell me, after you update pot templates, please
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<chrisklinger>
Hi all... hoping someone can help me understand ltsp; though I've _honestly_ been reading everything I can find, I' still getting the super-sized ass-whoop. If I configure my eth1 (which connects to the internet) with a fixed IP, I can't get thru the router, though I _can_ connect to the router. Also trying to setup NAT so that thin clients can get a direct internet connection, giving the ability (from what I've read) to u
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se youtube and other bandwidth-hungry apps as a localinstall. Still - I'm lost. Anybody feel like guiding a well-intentioned noob - even if it's just pointing me to something that I should read and perhaps haven't?
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<chrisklinger>
Even from thin clients, I can access my router, but can't get thru. But it's clearly a DNS iaaue, as I can connect to external sites via IP addy
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<nothingman>
Anyone here attempt to boot android from ltsp?
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I was working on it earlier but couldn't understand how to treat a squash file over the network
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<HrdwrBoB_>
what?
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android remote boot?
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<nothingman>
Yeah i copied the files to a subdirectory and was able to get the client to load initrd
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Android-x86 iso of course copied all img and sfs files from it
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There's initrd.img ramdisk.img install.img and system.sfs
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For that matter can one chainload pxelinux recursively?
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<markit>
chrisklinger: so you have a 2 nic server? eth0 for "thin clients side" and eth1 to "wan"? (outer)
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<abeehc>
!compiz
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<ltspbot`>
abeehc: "compiz" :: the default window manager in gnome is gnome-wm, which automatically chooses compiz if it thinks that the card supports it. Compiz is causing login problems to some clients (LP #673072). To disable it, see !disable_compiz. To restore it, see !restore_compiz
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<abeehc>
!disable_compiz
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<ltspbot`>
abeehc: "disable_compiz" :: To disable compiz, try: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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