IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 30 September 2012   (all times are UTC)

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08:17
<markit>
hi, from ldm login to the desktop, the fat client has to load all the desktop environment, correct? anyone can measure network traffic with iftop using gnome?
08:18
or anyone here using FAT clients that can tell me how fast is from ldm to a responsive desktop?
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08:40
<muppis>
markit, yes, fat can be counted as local install, but only booted from network. From login to responsive desktop it mostly depends from network and it's other traffic.
08:41
One client in 1 Gbps network is really fast and lots of clients in 100 Mbps are... well, slow. :D
08:44
<markit>
muppis: ehm, how much slow? with kde they are slow like hell = unusable
08:45
with iftop I see 600MB of traffic flowing
08:45
alkisg told me that with gnome he had 30MB, but now I was thinking that you can't have Gnome be only 30MB of code
08:46
muppis: do you have the possibility to do this test for me? I mean, go to ldm login in the client, then in the server run iftop -i ethWhatever and tell me the total traffic flown when you have login in the client and the desktop is responsive
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08:59
<Inar>
Morniong all... wondered if someone could point me to a "howto-run-sound-on-client-for-localapps" site...
09:02
Meaning to say - how can I make local apps on the client use the client's audio hardware?
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10:21
<ltspuser_23>
hi
10:22
i am unable to install ltsp
10:22
can anybody please help me out
10:25
please
10:25
help !!
10:26
<knipwim>
ltspuser_23: be patient
10:26
ltspuser_23: it would also help if you stated what's the problem
10:28
<ltspuser_23>
i had installed the LTSP at centos
10:28
version 6
10:28
& when i run the command ltsp-server-tweeks
10:28
then it gives me error
10:29
<knipwim>
ltspuser_23: i don't know that command (using Gentoo), but perhaps someone else
10:29
ltspuser_23: not everyone here is fully active in the weekend on this channel
10:29
<ltspuser_23>
please provide mr steps for Gentoo too
10:30
<knipwim>
well, Gentoo doesn't have the ltsp-server-tweeks command
10:30
so, i don't know what it does
10:30
<ltspuser_23>
then what it is
10:30
pls let me knw the steps for gentoo
10:30
<knipwim>
in fact, it's not an "official" ltsp command
10:31
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LTSP
10:32
you can find other distro docs via the ltsp wiki: http://wiki.ltsp.org
10:32
ltspuser_23: I gotta run now, have to get breakfast
10:32
good luck
10:32
<ltspuser_23>
bbye
10:32
thanxx
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11:20
<muppis>
markit, I think my data is not comparable. Less than 5 MB with 2 logins, with Unity 2D and Gnome Shell. o.0
11:44
<markit>
muppis: how can it be?
11:44
muppis: I mean, if you run gnome from hard disk, I don't think that the whole gnome DE is just 2.5MB of code
11:44
<muppis>
I know.
11:45
<markit>
I ask because I want to post in kde dev the problem, but seems to me that I'm missing something
11:45
<muppis>
I launched my htpc, which autologins and launches xbmc as local-apps, it took less than 150 MB and it's a fat client.
11:45
<markit>
muppis: but you had 5 mb with 2 fat client with gnome?
11:46
you measured from ldm login to DE working? (and why you tested with 2?)
11:47
<muppis>
I measured From LDM to DE and tried twice with same client beacuse could not believe it. :)
11:47
*because
11:48
I even dropped DirectX to false.
11:49
Which doesn't seems to have any effect in fats.
11:51
<markit>
muppis: could you please reboot the fat client? maybe it cached something locally
11:52
iftop on the bottom left shows TOTAL... is the value you reported me?
11:52
sorry to ask, but seems too low! Alkisg told me about 35MB but seems few for a DE, and 5MB seems impossible
11:55
<muppis>
markit, that's the value what I've reported.
11:55
Now I booted as thin and got 61 MB
12:03
<markit>
much better
12:03
and in any case 5-10 times better than kde
12:05
muppis: thanks a lot for the test
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<markit>
anyone knows how ssh in a fat client (that is in LDM stage). I've added a password to root in chroot
13:41
but when I ssh into it, I get an Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
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I've changed ssh_config, but now I got Connection closed by 192.168.20.103
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22:25
<cliebow_>
#seen jammcq
22:25
<vagrantc>
!seen jammcq
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<ltsp>
jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 3 days, 4 hours, 55 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <jammcq> err... hello friends
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<cliebow_>
!seen sbalneav
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<ltsp>
sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 14 weeks, 2 days, 7 hours, 38 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <sbalneav> Looks like crap right now, but it's actively parsing the XML, and at least getting some structure out there.
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<cliebow_>
heh
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