IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 24 September 2011   (all times are UTC)

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02:37
<ball>
Are there any other thin client channels on Freenode?
02:54
I had a Wyse WinTerm fail today. When I went looking for a replacement I found out that my team has a drawer full of dead ones.
02:55
...I hope other thin clients are more reliable (and generate less heat).
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10:22
<Andreas7>
Hello, anyone here that can help with a ltsp-cluster not getting correct appserver?
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14:45
<Andreas7>
I get "Bad request syntax ('getkey')" on ltsp-root server, thin client logs says "failed to get an IP from the load-balancer". What could be the problem?
14:50
<alkisg>
Andreas7: not many people are online in weekends, if noone answers you might want to try weekdays or the mailing list
14:51
<Andreas7>
ok, I'm in no hurry so I will wait till next week then, thanks
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16:04
<neushorn>
Hello
16:05
I am having some trouble with a thin client not booting
16:06
The point at which is hangs differs, but whenever the output seems to be useful, it is too long to fit on the screen
16:06
so I suppose I would have to view the logs
16:06
however, I can't find any way to log into the local machine to do so
16:06
Is there anyone who could help me with that?
16:07
<Hyperbyte>
Hoi!
16:07
;-)
16:08
Which distro/version?
16:09
<neushorn>
It's ubuntu, though I am having some trouble finding exactly which version
16:09
<Hyperbyte>
You don't know which version of Ubuntu you installed? =)
16:10
<neushorn>
It wasn't me that installed it...
16:10
<Hyperbyte>
Type lsb_release -a
16:10
Guides for simple things like this (finding version information) can easily be found on Google.
16:11
<neushorn>
10.04
16:11
<Hyperbyte>
You could search for 'find out which ubuntu version' for example, first 20 versions deal with what you want. =)
16:11
!nbd-proxy
16:11
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: nbd-proxy: Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 use a wrapper called nbd-proxy, which is causing networking problems for some people. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/589034. It's been disabled by default in 11.04, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/1803
16:12
<Hyperbyte>
!disable-nbd-proxy
16:12
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: disable-nbd-proxy: To disable nbd-proxy on Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) and Maverick (10.10), follow the instructions in comment #13 in this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/589034
16:12
<neushorn>
I got a bit stuck on uname, which didn't provide enough information - but you are right I should probably have looked at ubuntu specific answers and I would have found it without any problems
16:12
<Hyperbyte>
I'm not telling you because I think you -should- have done differently, I'm telling you so you can more easily get help with Linux in the future. ;-)
16:13
<neushorn>
Thanks
16:13
I'll have a look at that, thanks
16:14
<vagrantc>
and there's always SCREEN_NN=shell in lts.conf, where NN is one of your available ttys (02 on ubuntu, 08 on debian)
16:15
<alkisg>
So, do powerpcs make descent ltsp clients? :)
16:15
<neushorn>
Does the fact that other clients are working, but that one is giving troubles still leave open the problem you are talking about, Hyperbyte?
16:16
vagrantc: I have been trying that, however, I had some problems with it - should that be done locally on the thin client or on the server?
16:18
<Hyperbyte>
neushorn, out of curiousity, what environment are you using LTSP in?
16:20
<vagrantc>
neushorn: if you're using NBD (which is ubuntu's default) that should be done on the server in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
16:20
alkisg: i've seen it work ... not sure how decent they are
16:21
alkisg: it seems like the powerpc architecture is very ram hungry ...
16:21
<neushorn>
Hyperbyte, environment as in social environment rather than software environment?
16:22
<alkisg>
vagrantc: ouch... I hope his 256 RAM are enough
16:22
<neushorn>
vagrantc: tried that without any result
16:23
<vagrantc>
neushorn: SCREEN_*=shell only enables a shell at a certain point, perhaps it's failing before that point
16:23
<alkisg>
neushorn: if you see the client hanging at random points, and you're using 10.04, the most probable cause is what Hyperbyte said
16:23
The next one would be to check your cabling
16:24
Do disable nbd-proxy to make sure that's not to blame (but it most probably is)
16:24
<Hyperbyte>
neushorn, environment as... company, school..?
16:26
<neushorn>
vagrantc: it usually hangs around "*Setting up ltsp client"
16:26
Hyperbyte: students' union
16:27
<Hyperbyte>
:)
16:27
Where about are you located?
16:28
<neushorn>
Utrecht
16:29
<Hyperbyte>
Ahh
16:29
<- Capelle aan den IJssel (east of Rotterdam)
16:29
<vagrantc>
neushorn: that's before the SCREEN_* get started
16:33
<neushorn>
I always find it hard to translate the word "studentenvereniging" because the connotation is so different in English, and we're the ones the most different from the Dutch stereotype already
16:35
<vagrantc>
we're pretty used to different here in #ltsp :)
16:36
<neushorn>
good to hear :D
16:38
<Hyperbyte>
=D
16:42
<neushorn>
Thanks for your help guys, the client is fully working again now
16:46
<Hyperbyte>
You're welcome! :) You're also free to stick around here and learn more about LTSP if you like. :)
16:47
<neushorn>
Perhaps some other time, when I'm at home :)
16:48
Alright, cya!
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20:34
<alkisg>
vagrantc: could you give me a 2-minutes how-to about how to use xgettext to generate .pot files etc?
20:40
<vagrantc>
alkisg: it would probably take me half an hour to figure it out, so probably not :)
20:41
<alkisg>
Hehe I thought you used that to provide us that .po files :)
20:41
I managed to get a .pot file, but I don't know how to automatically generate .po files out of the .pot
20:42
<vagrantc>
there are a few scripts in either ltsp-trunk or ldm-trunk that i us
20:42
use
20:42
<alkisg>
I grepped for xgettext there, didn't see anything, and I thought you had them locally
20:42
<vagrantc>
version controled scripts are like extended memory
20:42
<alkisg>
Thanks, I'll look into them
20:42
<vagrantc>
search for update-po
20:42
or something like that
20:43
<alkisg>
Ah in the ldm source
20:44
regenerate-po
20:44
I was looking at ltsp-trunk
20:44
<vagrantc>
i usually just symlink the two to avoid maintaining it in two places
20:45
which is kind of annoying if you don't know the magic
20:45
also, it can be helpful to delete the .pot before running ... it's kind of got some glitchy behavior
20:45
<alkisg>
But what part puts new strings in .po files when the .pot template has been updated? Is that "make"?
20:46
generate_locale_list.py ?
20:47* vagrantc forgets
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20:48
<alkisg>
Thanks anyway, I'll dig into those
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<alkisg>
Ah, found it
21:07
In the debian/po/Makefile, not upstream
21:07
msgmerge, mostly
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