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Channel log from 10 January 2008   (all times are UTC)

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04:53
<Nubae>
when someone puts a blank dvd or cd in the server, a message asking what to do pops up on every terminal screen...
04:55
it should really be on one /join #edubuntu
04:56
oops
04:56
<PerfDave>
Nubae: Which one?
04:56
Nubae: If all the users have rights to use the DVD or CD drive on the server...
05:00
<ogra>
Nubae, thats gnome-volume-manager, you can disable it with gconf-editor as sudo ... make the keys mandatory and default after unsetting and the popup will be disabled globally
05:02
unsetting /desktop/gnome/volume_manager/autoburn might be what you want here
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<shogunx>
hi guys. i'm doing remote support for an edgy ltsp we are bringing live in katsina, nigeria. i know edgy is old, but i want to get the system functional before versioning the OS. the terminals are not detecting thier usb mice... sshing into the terminal and running lsusb shows only the keyboard device... not mouse. and ideas? udev? i am in the process of apt-get upgrading the ltsp filesystem in /opt/ltsp now.
05:53
<PerfDave>
shogunx: Are the keyboards USB as well, and are they working?
05:53
<shogunx>
yes, and yes.
05:53
mice tested good on other hosts.
05:54
<ogra>
looks like a HW issue ... is the mouse USB 2.2 and the clients can only do 1.x ?
05:54
<shogunx>
no. thing is, they worked fine when i shipped them.
05:55
clients are sumotech st166's geode based pxe booters.
05:55
mice are rather generic usb mice.
05:55
i would concur with a hw issue, but its persistent across several terminals and mice.
06:00
<ogra>
do they show up if you replug them on the running terminal ?
06:01
<shogunx>
no, alas.
06:02
i had the onsite operator move a mouse from front to rear usb port to test this, actually.
06:05
i've never seen this before, so i am trying to trace the process by which the mouse registers its presence.
06:07
obviously udev needs to see it before X11 can see it... does the kernel need to see it before udev?
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<shogunx>
i can't imagine the kernel not having usb mouse support... unless the initrd does not.
06:09
<PerfDave>
I can't imagine it having USB keyboard support but not mouse, don't they both use the usb-hcid or usb-ohci kernel module?
06:10
<shogunx>
i thought they did.
06:10
thats exactly why i am baffled here.
06:11
<PerfDave>
Does "cat /dev/input/mice" produce any output when the mouse is wiggled?
06:12
<shogunx>
i will check as soon as the apt-get upgrade is complete... its a rather slow link to katsina off a satellite bounce.
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<Nubae>
thanks ogra, for the dvd/cd popup thing...
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<cliebow>
!seen sbalneav
06:50
<ltspbot>
cliebow: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 3 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 44 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <sbalneav> I guess the idea is: ship it in the safe, encrypted mode, and then if people decide they can be less safe, in exchange for speed, then they can, easily.
06:50
<jammcq>
heh
06:50
<cliebow>
Wow!
06:51
someone want to run up there see if Scottie is ok??
06:52
<jammcq>
I've placed a few phone calls, but nothing returned yet
06:52
<Nubae>
I've got a weird thing happening with my filter.... I send all users in 'users' to dansguardian which works great
06:52
<cliebow>
guess he deserves it..in spades
06:53
<Nubae>
but users in staff who are sent directly to the proxy get a access denied from it with every page
06:54
my acl in squid has the 192.168.0.0/24 and localhost networks defined
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<shogunx>
PerfDave, here is dmesg output for the term and usb device in question:
07:34
[ 40.145075] usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
07:34
[ 40.325015] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
07:34
[ 40.608984] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
07:38
waiting on my local tech to wiggle the mouse.
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08:11
<ryudo>
i need help wich my local dev on terminals
08:12
after terminals reboot on logged session the local dev dont work
08:12
and i see this error on terminal console
08:12
fusermount: failed to access mount point
08:12
fusermount: failed to access mount point /tmp/.terminal05-ltspfs/floppy0: permission denied
08:13
whats going on ?
08:15
guaraldo ?
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08:23
<yopla>
hello! On ltsp5 on Debian sid i've got : "Workstation not allowed to connect" on the ldm client. On log i've got: ldm: segfault...
08:24
<ogra>
"Workstation not authorized..." you mean ?
08:24
<yopla>
ogra: yes that ist :-)
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<ogra>
run ltsp-update-sshkeys so the ssh server keys get copied into the client environment
08:24
<Gadi>
morning, all
08:24
<yopla>
then ltsp-update-image?
08:24
<ogra>
you need to do that if you changed ip etc and the ssh server key isnt in sync anymore
08:24
yopla, not sure, does sid now use nbd ? if so, yes
08:24
hey Gadi
08:25
<pscheie>
morning Gadi
08:25* Gadi gives the cool-kid nod to ogra and pscheie
08:25
<yopla>
ogra:yes it is!
08:26
<Gadi>
hey, ogra - got a quick one for ya this morning: are you aware of any lts.conf param whose value *cannot* be quoted? iirc, getltscfg strips the quotes, ya?
08:26
<ogra>
not really
08:27
i usually have had the prob that it doesnt strip them iirc (its a while ago that i touched anything of this)
08:27
<Gadi>
hmm...
08:27* Gadi will pop open the getltscfg source and have a look
08:28
<Gadi>
it would be nice if it could be consistent one way or the other
08:28
:)
08:28
<ogra>
while youre at it you could make it not die if it finds empty lts.conf :)
08:28
<Gadi>
np :)
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08:35
<Big-K>
does ltsp 5 on ubuntu use nbd?
08:35
<ogra>
Big-K, since gutsy (7.10)
08:35
<Big-K>
no nfs anymore?
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08:35
<ogra>
nope
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<Big-K>
kewl thx
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08:36
<ogra>
debian is just switching as well
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08:41* Gadi really hates C
08:41
<ogra>
Gadi, youre not alone
08:42
especially that you can f*ck up security so badly with it just by missing a line or so
08:42
<Gadi>
that - and, reading it gives me a headache
08:42
;)
08:42
<ogra>
we needs scottie back !!!!
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08:43
<ryudo>
i have issues wich local dev on terminals anyone can helpme ?
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<ryudo>
!ltspfs
08:44
<ltspbot>
ryudo: Error: "ltspfs" is not a valid command.
08:45
<ryudo>
i have issues wich local dev on terminals anyone can helpme ?
08:45
<Gadi>
ryudo: still with the badly partitioned USB sticks?
08:46
<ryudo>
yes gadi
08:46
and i have new probleman
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08:46
<Gadi>
ryudo: excellent - is now a good time to try and fix it?
08:46
<ryudo>
ohh gadi ltsp have many bugs :(
08:46
yes !
08:46
<Gadi>
one person's bug is another person's feature
08:46
:)
08:47
<ryudo>
gady my new probleman is:
08:47
<Gadi>
whats going on?
08:47
<ryudo>
when user reboot the terminal on opening session, after reboot the local devices dont work more
08:48
<Gadi>
meaning, they don't log out properly?
08:49
<ryudo>
no, the users push de reset button :(
08:49
<ogra>
with stale mountpoints usually plugging it a second time should work
08:49
<ryudo>
look this erros
08:49
<ogra>
reset button is very bad for various other things as well
08:49
<ryudo>
fusermount: failed to access mount point /tmp/.terminal05-ltspfs/floppy0: permission denied
08:50
Error: media terminal05 is not mounted
08:50
<ogra>
ideed
08:50
<ryudo>
Error: can't bindmount under /media/terminal05/floppy0: already mounted
08:50
<ogra>
make them propelry log out at least before they hit reset
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08:51
<ogra>
just hitting reset will leave half the desktop running in the background as well
08:51
not only stale mountpoints
08:51
<Gadi>
ogra: would it be worth adding an rc.d script to ldm to do an ltspfsmounter cleanup all?
08:51
<ogra>
that will break in intresting other ways as well
08:51
<ryudo>
sure
08:51
<ogra>
Gadi, thast what it does
08:51
see the code ;)
08:51
<Gadi>
ogra: no, I mean on login
08:52
before any other mounts are created
08:52
<ogra>
hmm
08:52
not sure thats implementable in a clean way
08:52
similar to xterminator
08:52
<ryudo>
ogra i'm using auto login
08:52
<ogra>
very complex to catch all cases
08:52
<ryudo>
on logout the terminal log again :(
08:52
ehehe
08:52
<Gadi>
ogra: real clean: just a start script before delayed-mounter
08:53
<ogra>
ryudo, yeah, thast an ldm bug, it should get a timer before logging in again
08:54
<ryudo>
humm
08:54
<ogra>
autologin is still very young
08:55
i dont think scott regards every and any case yet
08:55
<ryudo>
and the terminals wich local devices wich stucked i need make logout for the local devices works ?
08:55
<Gadi>
ryudo: I would try this:
08:55
there is a directory /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/
08:55
<ogra>
well, if the same user logs in again on that terminal just repluging the device should clean up
08:56
<Gadi>
in this directory, you can add scripts that run before/after the session
08:56
<ryudo>
floppy drive continues no works :(
08:56
<ogra>
(note that you need a uasre per terminal anyway, else nothing will work)
08:56
*user
08:56
<Gadi>
I would try adding a file called: 05ltspfscleanup
08:56
and in that file, put:
08:56
<ryudo>
i use an user per terminal
08:56
<ogra>
ok
08:56
<ryudo>
terminal01 temrinal 02 etc
08:57
<ogra>
its just important that the same user isnt logged in twoce
08:57
<ryudo>
17 terminals, 17 users
08:57
<ogra>
*twice
08:57
do waht gadi says
08:57
<Gadi>
ssh -X -S ${LDM_SOCKET} ${LDM_SERVER} "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter cleanup all"
08:57
<ogra>
ots a workaround
08:57
*its
08:58
<Gadi>
then, ltsp-update-image
08:58
and reboot the terminal
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<ryudo>
this fix local device stuck problemans ?
08:58
<ogra>
it works around the issue
08:58
<Gadi>
yes
08:59
<ryudo>
i try it gadi
08:59* Gadi reflects on how nobody pays him any attention :)
08:59
<ryudo>
wait for me ehehe
08:59
<ogra>
yuo should probably use 06
08:59
instead of 05
08:59
to be sure the token is actually set
08:59
<ryudo>
ok
08:59
<Gadi>
ah, yes
08:59
S06....
08:59
<ryudo>
06ltspfscleanup
09:00
<Gadi>
right
09:00
<ogra>
and not more than 10 else you wipe the floppy that delayed-mounter creates :)
09:00
<warren>
ogra, what package contains mkelfimage?
09:00
<Gadi>
S06ltspfscleanup
09:00
(you need the S)
09:00
<ogra>
warren, iirc its got its own package
09:00
so mkelfimage
09:00
<ryudo>
ok !
09:00
<warren>
ogra, is there an upstream project?
09:01
<ogra>
for sure ...
09:01
<warren>
ogra, there is something wrong with Edubuntu's ISO's that they don't work for CD boot in qemu.
09:01
<ogra>
warren, recent builds ?
09:01
<warren>
ogra, tried 7.10
09:01
<ogra>
hmm
09:01
works fine in vbox and vmware
09:02
i must admit i didnt test qemu
09:02
<warren>
all I know is that fedora's ISO's work in qemu but not edubuntu
09:02
<ryudo>
gadi on directory ldm dont have this directory rc.d
09:02
<ogra>
hmm
09:02
<ryudo>
on themes directory
09:02
<ogra>
to be honest i dont really care since the edubuntu CD will die soon anyway and i cant change gutsy anymore
09:02
<warren>
ogra, qemu-kvm being the upstream kernel standard for virtualization, might want to test it out before your next release.
09:02
<Gadi>
ryudo: should be: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d
09:02
<warren>
ogra, CD will die?
09:02
<Gadi>
thats not there?
09:03
ryudo: what distro?
09:03
<ogra>
warren, edubuntu becomes an addon to ubuntu
09:03
the edubuntu specific install disk will vanish
09:03
<ryudo>
no
09:03
<warren>
ogra, ah
09:03
<ryudo>
only themes directory
09:03
ubuntu feisty 7.04
09:03
<ogra>
the ltsp bits moved to the stadard ubuntu CD yesterday
09:04
that gives me a lot more space for edu apps
09:04
since i dont have to carry system and desktop anymore
09:04
<ryudo>
i crete the directory rc.d ?
09:04
gadi
09:04
<ogra>
and ltsp finally gets the right treatment it deserves :)
09:05
<Gadi>
ryudo: ah, feisty is a different story
09:05
<ryudo>
oh my god more bugs
09:05
:(
09:05
<Gadi>
no, just older ldm
09:05
:)
09:05
<ryudo>
my ldm is the modifiqued ldm wich autologin suporte em directx conections
09:05
<Gadi>
right
09:06
<ogra>
warren, ftp://ftp.lnxi.com/pub/mkelfImage
09:06
sorry took a while, Qfunk has hideden it in the package :)
09:06
*hidden
09:06
<Gadi>
ryudo: thinking.... 1 sec
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<ryudo>
ok :D
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09:12
<ryudo>
gadi ?
09:14
Gadi I need lunch now but within 30 minutes will be back
09:14
you stay here ?
09:14
<Gadi>
ill be here - in and out of mtgs
09:20
<warren>
ogra, bzr://bzr.fedoraproject.org/bzr/k12ltsp/ltsp-fedora/
09:20
ogra, began adding changes, eric and I are meeting again in the next few days to hammer out the rest
09:20
ogra, some changes might be controversial so we'll need to discuss them later.
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09:21
<warren>
I wish I could successfully install edubuntu into qemu-kvm
09:21
I can't actually test how the scripts are meant to work
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09:24
<cyberorg>
warren, i used vmware for that
09:24
<warren>
cyberorg, I really rather not run vmware here
09:24
cyberorg, I try to avoid tainting my kernel
09:24
<PerfDave>
Use Xen?
09:25
<cyberorg>
warren, :) try virtualbox, i also got the img file and then loop mounted it on suse
09:25
ltsp nbd image
09:25
<warren>
PerfDave, that requires booting an entirely different host kernel
09:25
<cyberorg>
warren, VirtualBox doesnt
09:26
<warren>
I know
09:26
we don't have virtualbox packaged in fedora yet
09:28
<cyberorg>
warren, get the one from their website
09:33
<warren>
cyberorg, does virtualbox require a kernel module?
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09:34
<cyberorg>
warren, yeah
09:35
<warren>
cyberorg, yuck
09:35
cyberorg, for that reason alone it might not be possible to include into fedora
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09:36
<warren>
cyberorg, we're not likely to include non-upstream kernel modules, and we have a ban on out-of-tree kernel modules now.
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09:36
<warren>
cyberorg, (this policy has forced many projects to play by upstream rules and get included)
09:36
<cyberorg>
warren, i think virtualbox is open source
09:37
<warren>
cyberorg, but not in the upstream kernel
09:37
cyberorg, Fedora has a strict policy against such kernel modules
09:37
cyberorg, we include a few non-upstream kernel modules into fedora if they are at least heading toward upstream
09:38
<PerfDave>
Xen is free software and in Debian kernels, which makes my life easier.
09:38
<cliebow>
ogra: will dhcp pass option 128 and DPORT=1001 to use alternate dhcp now?
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<mattwalston>
What is the lts.conf directive to set SWCursor?
09:39
<warren>
PerfDave, all Debian kernels are xen hosts now?
09:40
all Fedora kernels are xen guests, but you need to install kernel-xen for xen host
09:40
leaving for airport...
09:40
<cliebow>
ohh fun...
09:41
<Gadi>
mattwalston: if you are using LTSP5, try: X_OPTION_01 = "SWCursor"
09:42* Gadi recently noticed that ogra must have changed it from X_DEVICE_OPTION_01
09:42
<PerfDave>
warren: "aptitude install linux-image-2.6-$subarch-xen"
09:48
<Guaraldo>
ryudo: I'm here!
09:49
<mattwalston>
Gadi: thanks
09:53
<ryudo>
gadi
09:54
i'm back :D
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<ryudo>
gadi ?
09:56
<ogra>
Gadi, ? i didnt even know that var exists
09:57
<Gadi>
guys, mtg in 3 mins
09:57
ogra: I assumed that was you
09:57
maybe it was vagrant who added it
09:57
<ogra>
hmm
09:57
<Gadi>
wish he kept the same var name
09:57
<ryudo>
:D
09:57
<Gadi>
oh, mattwalston you actually also need to make it:
09:58
<ogra>
we can add something so it recognizes both
09:58
<Gadi>
X_OPTION_01 = "\"SWCursor\""
09:58
<ogra>
times are changing, so are vars :)
09:58
<Gadi>
the way it is implemented, it will not put the quotes, and X ill die
09:58
er, will
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<Gadi>
ryudo: in feisty, you can edit /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/ldm, as it is python
09:59
you can try adding ato the ssh command something that executes: ltspfsmounter cleanup all *before* the call to Xsession
10:00
<cliebow>
anyone know if DPORT can be passed to client kernel nopw via dhcp?
10:00
<ryudo>
i need add this ssh comand in end of file (ldm) ?
10:01
<ogra>
cliebow, there uis the IPOPTS kernel option i think (but not sure though)
10:02
<Gadi>
ryudo: no
10:02
<cliebow>
ogra: thanks...i use option 128/9 in my old stuff..ill do some google
10:02
<Gadi>
can you pastebot that ldm file?
10:02
!pastebot
10:02
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
10:02
<Gadi>
then, I can tell you the exact line
10:02
<ryudo>
ok gadi
10:02
thank you
10:02
:*
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<Gadi>
bbiab
10:06
<ltsp>
im back gadi
10:06
my therminal freeze eheh
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10:07
<ryudo>
64 MB RAM is enough to run firefox ?
10:07
<sonjag>
Hello all. This might be off topic, but does anyone know if you can install OO templates for all LTSP users to access?
10:07
<ogra>
500M isnt enough to run firefox for some pages :)
10:07
it depends on the page
10:08
<ryudo>
i running irc client on page ( java aplet)
10:08
whe the temrinal freeze hohoh
10:08
<ogra>
sonjag, dtrask had something written up ... dont ask me where or when, but i know he once described it
10:09
<ryudo>
frgadi did you can tell how exactly line i need put the ssh comannd ? and give the command again i lost ehehe
10:09
<sonjag>
ogra, thanks for the lead... I'll see if I can find something from him.
10:09
<cliebow>
ogra:would that be a dhcpd option? or something in init.d/dhcp3-server
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<ryudo>
gadi ?
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<kaioa>
hy
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<ryudo>
gady help me :(
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gadi* ehehe
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ogra
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you have the X_RAMPERC workaround script here ?
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<ryudo>
anyone have de X_RAMPERC script ?
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<ryudo>
gadi
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<ryudo>
ogra
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<Ryudo>
gadi :D
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anyone can help me wich firefox pixmaps issues ?
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i need the X_RAMPERC script and how to learn to use it
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<vagrantc>
otavio: so, there's about 3-4 remaining issues with a new ltspfs upload
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<Ryudo>
vagrantc did you know how i use the X_RAMPERC hack ?
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<vagrantc>
otavio: #454478: ltspfsd should not recommends ldm, #415460: ltspfs: usbfloppy support, and the ldm hooks you fixed up yesterday (should we just upload a new ldm at the same time, or should we put that off till another release?), and the weird "while read" bug that causes only the first ltspfs device found to actually get mounted
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i was planning on finding a usb floppy to test at freegeek today, and i think we can probably get that working
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i don't know weather i should send my "while read" bug upstream or not ... guess i should post to ltsp-developer and ask about it
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maybe include it as a patch for now
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and i have mixed feelings on the recommends issue (i appear to disagree with ogra, otavio and mariodebian(the submitted) about creating a new binary package
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i'd prefer to just lower the recommends to a suggests
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at least for the short term
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<otavio>
vagrantc: I'd like to see the while read bug ...
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<vagrantc>
otavio: i'm posting to ltsp-developer right now- i can CC you
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<otavio>
vagrantc: ok
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<vagrantc>
otavio: thoughts on the other issues?
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i think we ldm we can just upload a debian revision which doesn't install the scripts, rather than a new .tar.gz
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<otavio>
vagrantc: sure.
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vagrantc: I think it's the nice first step
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vagrantc: and start to clean it up
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<vagrantc>
almost all of the pkg-ltsp packages need a few manpages
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<vagrantc>
otavio: we could also consider the patch for KDE icons, but that may be more work than i want to do at this moment
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otavio: i think the patch was against an older version
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<otavio>
vagrantc: I prefer small steps
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<vagrantc>
otavio: sounds good to me
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<otavio>
vagrantc: so it's easier to spot breakages and hunt them out
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<vagrantc>
otavio: here's the post to ltsp-developer, if you haven't gotten the mail yet: https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20080110190843.GS9003%40ryukin.fglan&forum_name=ltsp-developer
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<vagrantc>
otavio: do you think ldm should be priority "extra" or priority "optional"?
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otavio: the new upload was done with "optional", but when it was part of ltsp source it was "extra" ... it's hard to decide for me- i could see it either way
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<vagrantc>
i guess ldm probably fits the "extra" definition
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are only
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likely to be useful if you already know what they are or have
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specialized requirements.
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<Ryudo>
vagrant did you can help me ?
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vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
Ryudo: sorry, i got caught up in other things ...
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<Ryudo>
ok sorry :(
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<vagrantc>
Ryudo: i think you just set X_RAMPERC=XX where XX is the percent of RAM to use
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in lts.conf
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<Ryudo>
but i need insert an script ?
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<vagrantc>
Ryudo: what linux distro and ltsp version are you running?
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<Ryudo>
ubuntu feisty LTSP5
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wich all updates
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<vagrantc>
ok...
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Ryudo: see if it's available in feisty: grep X_RAMPERC /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/ldm
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if not, you'll have to patch it
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<Ryudo>
did you have the patch ?
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<vagrantc>
no
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it's possible to make one, but i thought it was in feisty
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so check first
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<Ryudo>
ok i will check
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i need other question
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i dont understand the ltsp proposite
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<vagrantc>
proposite ?
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<Ryudo>
i need powerfulls terminals for run openoffice+firefox ?!
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<vagrantc>
mostly just a powerful server
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<johnny>
mostly.. :)
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<Ryudo>
i have one Atlhon 3700+ 2 GB DDR
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and Cleron 333 Mhz + 64 MB in terminals
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<vagrantc>
shouldn't be too bad.
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you *might* want to enable NBD_SWAP
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<Ryudo>
i enable that
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SIZE=256
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but the firefox pixmaps bug are freeze my temrinals
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<vagrantc>
well, i've got a game of go to play... see y'all later :)
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<johnny>
try firefox3 ...
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<vagrantc>
ah, yes. firefox is evil.
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<johnny>
firefox 3 is a bit better
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<Ryudo>
and the openoffice freeze too !
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:(
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For better performance must improve the server or add more memory to terminals?
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<Ryudo>
jonny
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<sutula>
Ryudo: ...or it could be network bottleneck. You'd have to investigate to see what the problem (bottleneck) is in order to answer that.
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<Ryudo>
i have a 2 switchs 3 com 10/100
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<sutula>
Ryudo: I don't think anyone here can answer based on looking at a hardware description, though some here are quite insightful. :) It would still be a guess. You probably need to investigate to find out what is limiting.
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e.g., is the server swapping a lot, high CPU utilization, maxing out the network bandwidth, clients swapping, etc.
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<Ryudo>
hum i look that
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Nbd swap burdens to the server?
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<johnny>
yes
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<sutula>
It sure would slow down the client :)
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<sutula>
Ryudo: Having it on isn't bad...it might be good to make better use of the client's RAM. The client can keep seldom-used stuff there. But if it's being changed constantly during operation, that would be a bottleneck.
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<Drakeweb>
looking for some help with sound on a thin client. Sounds played there are only heard through the server's speaker!
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<cliebow>
sutula:he has been trying every day for a while to get some answers
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guess i'm packing it in as well...
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<vagrantc>
otavio: i'm thinking of putting usbfloppy support off for another day
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otavio: maybe the recommends ldm issue as well
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otavio: other than the "while read" issue, i'd be happy with a release now.
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<vagrantc>
otavio: so we'll need to do an ldm and ltspfs upload at the same time to minimize breakages
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<vagrantc>
otavio: i'm fighting with dpatch
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<otavio>
vagrantc: yes, we should do that
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vagrantc: wants help?
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<vagrantc>
otavio: YES
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otavio: i feel like i have it, except it refuses to apply the patch
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dpatch apply-all -v gives: No file to patch. Skipping patch.
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<vagrantc>
otavio: i created the .dpatch file like so: dpatch patch-template -p "delayed-mounter" "fixes bug causing only first device to be mounted" < p > debian/patches/delayed-mounter.dpatch
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where p is a diff
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<otavio>
vagrantc: I usually do:
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dpatch-edit-patch name
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and it opens a shell
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where I change the need files
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remove the backup files
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and do exit
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so it exists the shell and compare the dirs
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and produce the patch for you
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<vagrantc>
will try
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otavio: ok, i think it's working :)
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<otavio>
NICE
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<vagrantc>
otavio: what do you think about putting off the usbfloppy and recommends ldm issue for another day?
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<otavio>
np
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<vagrantc>
otavio: ok, getting ready to email you the new ltspfs upload. then i'll work on ldm
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otavio: since ldm is just going to be the same source tarball, do i need to email you that?
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<otavio>
vagrantc: no
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<vagrantc>
otavio: sent you ltspfs and ldm uploads
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<lns>
after uninstalling the deskbar applet in Gnome, every LTSP user that logs in gets 2 errors about "OAFID::blah blah" concerning the panel objects..anyone have any fixes for this? it's pretty reproducible
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<vagrantc>
we tried to figure that out at freegeek and so far have failed
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<lns>
yikes
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how about "the x system keyboard settings differ from your current gnome keyboard settings." error? same?
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<nentis>
greetings.
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has anyone gotten the 2300SX to work with ltsp?
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(ebox 2300SX, not to be confused with the 2300)
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<nentis>
any idea why I would get an SIOCGIFINDEX: no such device, when ifconfig shows eth0 exists?
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<vagrantc>
otavio: did you get the emails?
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