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Channel log from 12 September 2019   (all times are UTC)

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05:29
<alkisg>
vagrantc: heya; in Epoptes, you bumped Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 11) (it was: >=9), so I can't build in 16.04 anymore, do you mind if I put it back? I did some changes for LTSP19 that xenial/stretch/jessie users would want...
05:31
<vagrantc>
i mind some :P
05:31
i think 9 is pretty much deprecated in debian
05:32
<alkisg>
Does Debian policy mean that "building in order distributions is deprecated"?
05:32
<vagrantc>
i guess 9 isn't quit deprecated yet
05:32
<alkisg>
I was thinking that newer debhelpers are there for when you need them, not to stop people from supporting older and still supported versions...
05:33
I'm not planning to support unsupported versions; just the officially supported ones
05:33
(i.e. currently, anything with systemd)
05:33
<vagrantc>
16.04 used systemd?
05:33
<alkisg>
Yes
05:33
Jessie too
05:34
<vagrantc>
i knew about jessie :)
05:34
<alkisg>
Those run ltsp19 fine
05:34
So, I was thinking, why shouldn't they also have the epoptes updates for ltsp19
05:34
<vagrantc>
i thought 16.04 went out of support ... 5-6 months ago?
05:35
<alkisg>
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Xenial Xerus Changes February 28, 2019 April 2021 April 2024
05:35
2021 = for most, 2024 = extended
05:35
<vagrantc>
so LTS is supported for longer than 5 years?
05:35
<alkisg>
2016 + 5 = 2021,
05:35
and there's extended support after that
05:35
But I only care about standard support
05:36
<vagrantc>
clearly your aritmatic is better than mine right now :)
05:36
<alkisg>
:D
05:36
<vagrantc>
maybe always
05:36
<alkisg>
Mornings > Evenings! :D
05:37
I think you were thinking about 14.04, which went out of support a few months ago
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05:41
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i guess i'm getting younger, always wanting to upgrade to the newest things.
05:41* vagrantc was used to being the one always worried about backwards compatibility
05:42
<vagrantc>
alkisg: doesn't 16.04 have a backport of debhelper or something?
05:42
<alkisg>
vagrantc: anyways, any harm done if I revert this until xenial etc are out of support?
05:42
They have debhelper 10, but it's difficult to pull it in ppas
05:43
<vagrantc>
debhelper 10 even probably "supports" 11.
05:43
or at least, a prerelease of it
05:44
<alkisg>
I'm not sure what "supports" means in this context; won't build fail with "can't install debhelper >= 11"?
05:44
Are we using any recent feature of debhelper?
05:44
<vagrantc>
explicitly, no, implicitly, yes.
05:44
<alkisg>
AFAIK I used the older method for systemd units, which also works in 9
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05:46
<alkisg>
To sum up, you're OK if I revert to 10, but you worry if I revert to 9?
05:46* vagrantc is too tired to take a meaningful look :/
05:47
<alkisg>
No worries. Since you're not building anything currently, I can just revert it, and we can bump it again when debian needs another release
05:48
It's not affecting debian directly, unless you want to do a backport from the original tree
05:48
Stretch/Jessie users can use the PPA, I'll test it as well
05:51
<vagrantc>
i can also just maintain a separate tree for debian for these things in general
05:51
it's generally not too hard to do for debhelper compatibility bumps
05:51
<alkisg>
I think that would be best; I could put the debian dir upstream there too, for the 3 packages I maintain, so that they're the same...
05:51
ltsp19, epoptes, sch-scripts => have debian in upstream source, it's so much easier for me
05:52
Currently only epoptes has debian/ elsewhere
05:52
<vagrantc>
oh, that will be harder on my end, but ok.
05:52* alkisg wonders if he can just copy debian/, or some git magic is needed, for history...
05:53
<vagrantc>
no magic...
05:53
oh, this is one of those split out the two roles and now you want to merge it back things...
05:54
yeah, that's harder.
05:57
i think the biggest debhelper thing after quickly glancing at it were autoreconf by default, but epoptes doesn't use that... ltsp 5.x did.
05:58* alkisg remembers no changes after the last debhelper 9 builds... so guesses it'll build fine again there
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06:09
<alkisg>
Pushed + invoked recipe, will test when it's done
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08:33
<nithish>
hi there
08:33
<alkisg>
Hi nithish
08:34
<nithish>
i have a problem in ltsp ubuntu 18.04
08:34
terminal user cannot run sudo privilage
08:34
<alkisg>
!LDM_PASSWORD_HASH
08:34
<ltsp>
LDM_PASSWORD_HASH: LDM_PASSWORD_HASH=True in lts.conf saves the password hash to /etc/shadow on login, so that the users can unlock the screensaver etc. If they happen to change their password though, that only takes effect until logout.
08:35
<nithish>
okey how to find lts.conf
08:37
<alkisg>
!lts.conf
08:37
<ltsp>
lts.conf: (#1) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf, or (#2) lts.conf manpage is available in the ltsp-docs package
08:37
<alkisg>
It's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf etc
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10:52
<nithish>
hi
10:53
how to restrict thin client drives
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