IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 9 May 2012   (all times are UTC)

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11:54
<Hyperbyte>
Is there any benefit that Edubuntu brings for me, with regard to LTSP?
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13:16
<markit>
hi alkisg :) Installing epoptes-client in chroot solved the problem of not seeing clients before login, thanks
13:16
<alkisg>
You're welcome :)
13:16
<markit>
btw, I had one client not showing when I turned all pc on
13:16
and strange thing, during shutdown of the server seems to me to have noticed that epoptes is re-started
13:16
is it possible?
13:17
I've removed splash screen, so I see textual messages during boot and shutdown
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(I do love it, even if people are scared by everything is not graphical, sigh)
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13:21
<alkisg>
(04:16:17 μμ) markit: btw, I had one client not showing when I turned all pc on => we may troubleshoot this online sometime if you want, I haven't heard any problems with the current epoptes version
13:22
(04:16:46 μμ) markit: is it possible? => I'll have to check, upstart might be calling it again even though it's not registered in the headers, dunno
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15:42
<That1GuyRob>
hi all
15:44
was hoping someone might have some ideas about an LTSP issue I've been having
15:46
my thin clients are configured with x11VNC so we can view the session of the logged in user rather than creating a new virtual session. For some reason after a period of uptime, the clients stop responding to VNC connection requests and if we reboot the client everything seems to be working again
15:50
<markit>
That1GuyRob: don't know if relevant, but do you know epoptes project?
15:50
www.epoptes.org
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<That1GuyRob>
no I don't know of it
16:22
that does look very interesting though
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<That1GuyRob>
markit: thanks for the tip
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<mgariepy>
ls
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17:56
<servercbe>
hello! I need help
17:56
necesito ayuda
17:56
como funciona esto?
17:56
alguien por alli?
17:57
somebody there?
17:57
<shawnp0wers>
Most are at work, checking here when they can.
17:57
Feel free to post a question, if anyone can answer, they will do so when they see it.
17:57
<servercbe>
hello Sir
17:59
I AM TRYING TO CONNECT epoptes - client, BUT! my epoptes server doesnt recognize the client!
17:59
this is the first time I am installing it... I dont know exactly how to do it...
18:01
<vagrantc>
what documentation have you followed so far?
18:01
<servercbe>
http://wiki.o2stream.com/spip.php?article47
18:01
<vagrantc>
what OS and verson?
18:02
<servercbe>
ubuntu 12.04
18:02
lts
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18:02
<vagrantc>
you shouldn't need the ppa anymore- the newest version of epoptes is in 12.04
18:06
meh.
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<servercbe_>
mmm ... something happend... and i was desconected...
18:09
HELP TO CONNECT EPOPTES- CLIENT TO MY SERVER.... I HAVE BEEN READING http://wiki.o2stream.com/spip.php?article47 AND http://www.epoptes.org/installation
18:09
<ogra_>
no need to shout ....
18:09
<servercbe_>
but i cant still connect them
18:10
ups... I forgot about the capitalization meaning.. sorry
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<ogra_>
the best is to wait for alkisg to show up here, he is the developer of epoptes
18:11
(he is in a european tzimezone though, wheer its past 8pm now)
18:12
<servercbe_>
thatś sad...
18:12
i have been trying to connect since 4 days ago.... but i still cant... :(
18:12
but thanks for your info!
18:12
<ogra_>
well, alternatively use the mailing list
18:13
<servercbe_>
how do i do that?
18:13
i am new on it
18:13
sorry---:(
18:13
<ogra_>
you write a mail to the list ?
18:13
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
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<servercbe_>
thanks..
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19:36
<alkisg>
vagrantc: the new ltsp-update-image options: http://paste.debian.net/168078/ ==> I think I prefer to have the chroot names as the unnamed parameters, but if you insist on using --chroot=xxx instead, I'll do it this way. I also removed the --timeout parameter (those should go in the pxelinux-menus package options) and the --no-copy-tftp parameter (it should be autodetected, if anyone is actually using it)
19:38
All the kernel-related options are passed unmodified to the (to be updated) ltsp-update-kernels
19:39
I'll also remove the inetd support and the unnamed-nbd-exports support, for cleaner code
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19:40
<knipwim>
alkisg: you know if the /etc/nbd-server/config file is going to be included upstream in nbd?
19:41
<alkisg>
knipwim: vagrantc filed a report about it, but it's only in the debian packaging, I think it will be a reasonable/accepted change, not sure if other distro packagers will follow...
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<knipwim>
this was the response from gentoo's maintainers:
19:42
"i don't adding a config file like this makes much sense when it isn't usable out of the box. just force the user to create it themselves."
19:43
<alkisg>
True, but if the nbd-server checks the file and doesn't _run_if it finds no exports, then having the configuration file would be ok
19:44
<knipwim>
i could always include one in the ltsp example configs
19:44
upstream would be better though
19:44
<alkisg>
There's an example config in the debian/ubuntu nbd-server package, isn't it included in gentoo?
19:44
<knipwim>
nope
19:44
you package it yourselfs
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<alkisg>
$ dpkg -L nbd-server | grep tmpl
19:45
/usr/share/nbd-server/nbd-server.conf.tmpl
19:45
The nbd-server debian maintainer is also involved upstream
19:45
Not sure if he has that file in his trunk...
19:45
(outside the debian/ dir...)
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http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/wouter/nbd.git;a=tree;f=debian;h=625c8641f538615efe831be7b76093eab6d76416;hb=HEAD
19:46
In debian/
19:46
Maybe ask him to put it in examples/ instead?
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<knipwim>
good plan
19:53
<alkisg>
knipwim: vagrantc's bug report, in case you want to comment there: bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671911
19:55
Ah, he also says that even with a config file, nbd-server doesn't start if it finds no exports
19:55
So you can tell that to the gentoo maintainer
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<That1GuyRob>
does anyone know anything about x11VNC? I'm having a bit of a problem with it on my thin clients
20:01
<alkisg>
What problem? Use the -noshm option
20:01
<That1GuyRob>
-noshm? I"m not sure what that means
20:02
<alkisg>
check the x11vnc man page, it means not to use shared memory, as the thin clients have a remote X server
20:02
<That1GuyRob>
the clients are configured to allow connections to view the current session rather than creating a new virtual session and everything seems to work fine
20:03
however after a period of uptime, they start refusing connections... after a reboot of the client everything works again
20:03
does that have anything to do with -noshm?
20:04
<alkisg>
No, if it works sometimes, -noshm isn't related
20:05
<That1GuyRob>
i have checked the config file too and the -forever option is already specified
20:05
gimme a sec and I will ssh to one of the servers and grap the config file... do you want to look at it?
20:10
actually I can't seem to remember where that file is located now
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