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Channel log from 15 June 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<try2free>
hi
01:43
can anyone help for setting squid using default port 80? using shorewall?
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<try2free>
hi
04:37
can i set squid and shorewall for using with ltsp server on same machine?
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<try2free>
hi, please help to setting shorewall for squid and ltsp server on same machine. transparent? intercept?
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<erieslabnx>
morning everyone
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<xBowser>
Hey @all. I got a simple problem... or at least it seems simple. How can I configure my clients to not overwrite my cups/client.conf??
06:42
Im using a print server running for the whole network and the clients always use my ltsp Server as Cups Print Server, but I want them to use my remote Print Server directely (relaying just sucks in my eyes...)
06:44
<erieslabnx>
I am too new to help, but am eager to see the answer :)
06:45
<xBowser>
Hehe, I had this Problem some weeks ago and tried to configure my LTSP Server to relay printing but it just didn't work. :)
06:48
<erieslabnx>
while I am here... I have 2 or 3 of the thin clients after logging in the screens are flipped upside down and the text is reversed. Someone suggested that I manually set the resolution in a conf file, but I can't figure it out. Any suggestions?
06:49
the strange thing is the login screen is fine on all clients including these 3
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<xBowser>
Tried this one:
06:52
http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf#X_MODE_0_through_X_MODE_2 ??
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<erieslabnx>
thank you xBowser!
06:59
No I had not seen that one
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<pmatulis>
what's the point of root-path a dhcp configuration (for recent ubuntu)?
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<xBowser>
Hmm, I still need a solution to not overwrite my cups/client.conf at client startup.
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<xBowser>
Any suggestions for my CUPS problem since my Computer crashed?
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<erieslabnx>
no none came in yet, I think you should ask again xBowser
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<coordinador>
hi everybody
08:37
i have an issue with sound
08:37
i can only listen in 1 client at the same time
08:37
i have ltsp 4.2 + ubuntu 9.04
08:38
in lts.conf i have esd configured and in sound preferences i have esd as sound daemon
08:41
i've just discovered that in one client i can only have 1 application with sound at the time
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<coordinador>
i have rhythmbox playing a mp3 and when i try to test sound in sound preferences i get: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Cannot establish connection with sound server.
08:42
<cliebow>
coordinador, dont tihkn you will get much help in 4.2..
08:42
carp...think
08:42
whatever
08:42
<coordinador>
sorry but my clients are eboxII
08:43
ltsp5 run too slow
08:44
before i've run easily sound exactly with this config ltsp4.2+ebox, etc.. but now i dont know what happened
08:45
<cliebow>
Scottie is around..he may be your best bet
08:45
<xBowser>
Does anybody know how I can make my clients not overwrite my cups/client.conf?
08:50
<alkisg>
xBowser: I have no idea what you're talking about, but maybe `man chattr` could help?
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<xBowser>
No, I already tried that. I got Debian LTSP Server running and I got a Print Server in my Network. Now I want every client to use this print server.
08:53
For my LTSP Server its easy to just use /etc/cups/client.conf
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<xBowser>
I got this config corrent in my client image but at login time this file is overwritten with the IP of my LTSP server.
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<erieslabnx>
Most machines in this building are thin clients running on the server. However my personal laptop is simply running Ubuntu. I wanna know how I log my laptop into the server as a thin client while I am at work, but not really a thin client I wanna run it from within the existing ubuntu install, any keyword suggestions for my search?
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<xBowser>
Within you current Ubuntu? Maybe you can configure some vitual machine to boot from PXE?
09:02
<erieslabnx>
good call
09:02
will virtual box run in Ubuntu?
09:03
<coordinador>
erieslabnx, you have to choose start remote session in GDM
09:03
<erieslabnx>
ok this GDM is built into Ubuntu?
09:03
<xBowser>
GDM is the screen where you log in.
09:03
<coordinador>
you will start session in the server as a client
09:03
<erieslabnx>
will I get the speeds that the thin clients get?
09:03
<coordinador>
yes, is where you put your username and password
09:04
may be faster, since i assume is better hardware
09:04
*sorry for my english, my main language is spanish
09:04
ill be back in 5 mins
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bye
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<pmatulis>
what's the point of root-path a dhcp configuration (for recent ubuntu)?
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<pmatulis>
just to find boot program?
09:08
<coordinador>
humm, i cannot make sound works, i get object '/usr/lib/libesddsp.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored
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<coordinador>
(after paste some code in /etc/X11/Xsession to make work esd)
09:09
i ve checked and libesddsp.so.0 doesn't exists ... what i should do?
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<xBowser>
Which distro? Debian, Ubuntu...?
09:09
<coordinador>
ubuntu
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<alkisg>
pmatulis: I think it's for nfs, so not actually used in ubuntu
09:09
<coordinador>
sbalneav, good morning
09:09
<alkisg>
Hi Scotty
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<pmatulis>
alkisg: that's what i was thinking too
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<coordinador>
xBowser, the code i copied from ltsp sound tutorial in ltsp.org
09:10
from here http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound#OSS_transparent_redirection_to_E
09:11
<xBowser>
If it cant find the library then its not installed. Install the package libesd-alsa0 and it should work.
09:12
Is it really some kind of feature that the /etc/cups/client.conf gets overwritten at logon?
09:13
<coordinador>
xBowser, what about if you change permissions?
09:14
<rjune_wrk>
xBowser: I think it get's created at logon
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<xBowser>
No, I already tried everything possible with permissions. Before logon its correct but after that its changed to the value of my ltsp server and I cant find where this is done.
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<jammcq>
hellooooo friends
09:20
<sbalneav>
Morning jammcq
09:21
<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:24
<xBowser>
This sucks. I just want my clients to use some other cups server....
09:24
This cant be that hard.... can it?
09:24
<rjune_wrk>
!j
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<ltspbot>
rjune_wrk: "j" is jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<rjune_wrk>
xBowser: I'm sure there's a cups_server option for lts.conf
09:25
jammcq: can you confirm that?
09:26
<jammcq>
rjune_wrk: not me. I'm too far away from the action these days.
09:26
<sbalneav>
xBowser: It'll be easiest to just set their default printer with lpoptions
09:26
<xBowser>
Hmm, I couldn't find one yes. Maybe undocumented or well hidden?
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<sbalneav>
AFAIK, LTSP doesn't touch anything printer related, as there's already stuff in place in cups to deal with that.
09:27
<rjune_wrk>
xBowser: this is cups.conf actually on the terminal, right?
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<sbalneav>
Simply setting up an Xsession script that sets lpoptions based on groups, etc, should work fine.
09:28
<rjune_wrk>
sbalneav: didn't somebody already do that?
09:28
<xBowser>
@rjune_wrk: yes
09:28
<Gadi_eeepc>
xBowser: it gets overwritten for local apps
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<sbalneav>
xBowser: are you running a local app?
09:28
Ah, that's a different story.
09:29
<Gadi_eeepc>
look in the /usr/share/ldm/rc.d dir in the chroot
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or set LOCAL_APPS = False
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<xBowser>
sbalneav: yes, thats why I need it on my clients
09:29
And I really need local apps.
09:29
<rjune_wrk>
Gadi_eeepc: howdy
09:29
<Gadi_eeepc>
rjune_wrk: !!!!
09:30
<xBowser>
@Gadi_eeepc: Thats, in there theres some config that seems to be the evil guy. I will try that.
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<Gadi_eeepc>
xBowser: you can also set CUPS_SERVER
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in lts.conf
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to change wwhere it points
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*where
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if you want to set default printer, you can use LDM_PRINTER
09:33
I believe
09:33
<xBowser>
like CUPS_SERVER=192.168.XXX.XXX ??
09:33
<Gadi_eeepc>
yeah
09:34
it has to be a relatively new version of LTSP
09:34
but, I think it is in Jaunty on Ubuntu
09:34
<xBowser>
I got 5.1.73 from Debian squeeze.
09:34
<Gadi_eeepc>
ah, thats prolly good
09:35
<xBowser>
But I don't believe it will work.
09:35
<Gadi_eeepc>
if you can read the code, it is in $chroot/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/X01-locaalapps
09:35
<xBowser>
With localapps it seems to delete the config no matter what...
09:35
<Gadi_eeepc>
right
09:36
on the client
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<xBowser>
Right, I found the line now. I just was to stupid... :)
09:38
It works! Thank you sooo much. I think I really need to add all my experiences with LTSP to the Debian Wiki.
09:38
<rjune_wrk>
xBowser: generally speaking, if it's getting created automagically, you need to add an lts.conf option
09:39
<ltsppbot>
"alkisg" pasted "Thoughts on configuration files :(" (9 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/382
09:39
<alkisg>
I'm trying to develop a package that automatically configures LTSP/dnsmasq, but I'm having problems finding a good way to generate the necessary configuration files. The problem description is a little big, so I had to use pastebin - any input is greatly welcome.
09:39
<xBowser>
Yes, but there is no complete documentation to lts.conf so...
09:39
<erieslabnx>
happy for you xBowser
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<coordinador>
damn, i cannot make sound works
10:04
i pasted the corresponding code in /etc/X11/Xsession and nothing happen
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even if i check the ESPEAKER value i got empty
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it's like Xsession code doesn't take effect
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<coordinador>
ill be back un 5 minutes
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<coordinador>
frekin sound..
10:15
in rhythbox when i try to play a song i get "Cannot establish a connection with sound server" but plays next :S
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<coordinador>
finally sound worked fine!
10:59
i havent ESPEAKER defined but still works fine, ive just rebooted serverd and sound still works
10:59
but, there is one more thing... sound in flash
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<rjune_wrk>
Ugh
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<alkisg>
coordinador: so you have ltsp 4.2 in ubuntu 9.04? The zombies live... :D
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<coordinador>
:D
11:00
yes
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<rjune_wrk>
coordinador: find the location of your flash plugin
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do "ldd <PLUGIN>"
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if you see esd or pulse, it should be fairly trivial, if not, you have to make firefox do esddsp ( or the pulse equivelent ) to get it to work
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I'm off to lunch, back in an hour or so
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<coordinador>
the plugins are in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
11:02
oh, ok
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<rjune_wrk>
if it's alsa, i can't help you
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<coordinador>
im using esd
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and my flash plugin is: libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
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what can i do?
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<sbalneav>
Flash sound didn't work well under 4.2
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It was one of the factors that drove the development of ltsp5
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<sbalneav>
And IIRC, the newer flash plugins use alsa, which will be next to impossible to get going with esd
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<sbalneav>
You might have better luck trying out gnash: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
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<coordinador>
humm
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<coordinador>
is gnash 100% compatible with flash?
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<sbalneav>
coordinador: No, but depending on what you want to do, it may be compatible enough.
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<coordinador>
ok, ill try in another browser, if its enough compatible ill install in 'official' browser
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<sbalneav>
in ubuntu, apt-get install mozilla-gnash-plugin
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<coordinador>
thanks, ill try it now
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<sbalneav>
I only need flash to watch youtube videos, and it works fine for that.
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<epsas>
vlc works for flash videos too... it works better even
11:28
a lot better
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<sbalneav>
Oh, does it?
11:29
Cool
11:29
<alkisg>
totem has a youtube video plugin, with a search box embedded
11:29
xv scaling etc, plays fine
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<sbalneav>
alkisg: What package is that in? totem-plugins-extra?
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<alkisg>
sbalneav: it's preinstalled
11:35
Just open the sidebar
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view > sidebar > then select youtube
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<Lns>
I messed around with that once...seemed interesting
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<alkisg>
(I don't remember which ubuntu version it got in, though... 8.10 surely, but I don't remember about 8.04)
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11:40* Lns sees it in 8.04
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<Lns>
pretty nifty, it has find -> results tab, and related tab
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<erieslabnx>
I am really sorry my pc crashed and I missed the reply on logging into the server from my laptop, can anyone point me to some help using the GDM?
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<erieslabnx>
Would it be better for me to login to my server using the terminal server client?
12:04
<_UsUrPeR_>
hey guys
12:04
<erieslabnx>
:)
12:04
<_UsUrPeR_>
has there been any recent inroads to getting dual monitors to work properly in Fedora without using an xorg.conf yet?
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<Lns>
erieslabnx: I wasn't here when you asked, are you trying to get vnc or something going on gdm so you can log in remotely to the server console?
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<erieslabnx>
yes
12:06
exactly
12:07
I want to login just as my thin clients do, but from my own laptop
12:07
my laptop is also running ubuntu
12:07
someone suggested something about gdm, but I don't know where to read to learn it
12:08
my laptop is never on that network, my wifi router (for the laptop) is before the server
12:08
I would be logging in through the internet
12:09
terminal server client is not working, but I think it may have something to do with the routing that the modem is doing maybe a port not forwarded or something
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<alkisg>
erieslabnx: try running vino-preferences, it has support for upnp, it may be easier for you.
12:11
(you can also find it under system > preferences > remote desktop)
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<erieslabnx>
ok
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from the server or from the laptop?
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<Lns>
erieslabnx: what's your distribution?
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<erieslabnx>
januty
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jaunty
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<Lns>
ah
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<alkisg>
from the server
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<erieslabnx>
kk
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<Lns>
erieslabnx: well you can't log in "as your thin clients do" but you can run VNC to a GDM session, which I think is what you're looking for...
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<erieslabnx>
ok
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<Lns>
erieslabnx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GDMVNCInetdssh
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<alkisg>
lns, vino-preferences is the embedded vnc server for jaunty
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<Lns>
alkisg: doesn't vino require you to be logged in for it to function?
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<alkisg>
it also has upnp, which is where erieslabnx has the trouble (=port forwarding...)
12:14
Yes, it requires the user to be logged on, though.
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<erieslabnx>
ok I have an address in that box alkisg would I use Remote desktop viewer or terminal server client from the laptop?
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<alkisg>
erieslabnx: if you're *not* on the server right now, then you can't contact it from afar, unless you setup your router to do port forwarding first.
12:16
<erieslabnx>
I have not changed any settings anywhere, I have learned my lesson on that lol
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<erieslabnx>
is there a port I need to forward?
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<alkisg>
Yes, e.g. 22 for ssh, 5900 for vnc...
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<erieslabnx>
ssh is for terminal access correct?
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<alkisg>
erieslabnx: it's also for remote X
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So you can do: `ssh -X server` and then run firefox and it'll run remotely
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<alkisg>
That's how ltsp works, basically... but it'll go slow over the internet
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<erieslabnx>
would it be better if my router was plugged into the switch?
12:20
can that work?
12:20
<alkisg>
I don't think it would make any difference.
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<erieslabnx>
k
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<MichalPenka>
Hello community! Could anyone explain me what actually the chroot environment is? I've read the documentation but I still don't understand. Does this chroot contain new filesystem including packages, user accounts and so? Or is it just extension for server filesystem? Thanks'
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<Gadi_CA>
MichalPenka: it is the root filesystem that the thin client sees when it is running
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<MichalPenka>
Gadi_CA: so there is for e.g. whole gnome?
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<Gadi_CA>
no
13:01
it is enough to give the thin client life
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and get it connected to the server
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once you log in, you are on the server
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<MichalPenka>
aha, ok
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<Gadi_CA>
and all apps run on the server, with only the display pushed back
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<MichalPenka>
but when I did ltsp-build-client it downloaded many packages I think
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<Gadi_CA>
sure
13:02
to build the thin client OS
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it uses the host's package management system
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so, if you install LTSP on fedora, you get a fedora chroot
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if on ubuntu, an ubuntu chroot
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etc
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<MichalPenka>
but this is something I still don't get
13:03
why it installs packages if (like you said) it shares software with the server
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<Gadi_CA>
an operating system, even a minimal one, is built from packages
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<MichalPenka>
aha
13:04
ok
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<Gadi_CA>
it does not install Gnome, for example
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<MichalPenka>
so it didn't download whole system?
13:04
<Gadi_CA>
but it does install X
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<epsas>
MicahelPenka - it will install an X Server and such
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<Gadi_CA>
because it needs an X server
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<MichalPenka>
ahh
13:04
ok
13:04
<vagrantc>
MichalPenka: it provides an operating system sufficient to essentially connect the thin-client's keyboard, mouse and monitor to the server.
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<MichalPenka>
thanks, it seems now I get it :)
13:05
and second thing...am I able to serve multiple thin clients with variable host os?
13:05
I mean like one server with fedora/ubuntu/... client OS
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<vagrantc>
it takes some work, but it is *possible*
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<MichalPenka>
ok :) I don't need it now. thanks
13:07* vagrantc notes that when people say "is X possible" they usually mean "is X easy"
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<MichalPenka>
so back to the problem...the ltsp server seems to be just a ltsp server - nothing else, because there are the user accounts and so. Am I right?
13:08
yes, you!re right :D
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but I must tell you I'm definitely into the LTSP :)
13:09
it looks great
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<MichalPenka>
I'm planning to build a terminal school room
13:11
"so back to the problem...the ltsp server seems to be just a ltsp server - nothing else, because there are the user accounts and so. Am I right?"
13:11
doesn't make sense - I meant do you think it is a good idea to have there multiple services running? (ltsp/apache/ftp...)
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<vagrantc>
MichalPenka: it's just a linux machine ... run whatever you want on it.
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<MichalPenka>
I meant your expirience. Do you think it is a good idea? I care about security/maintentance and so
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<Lns>
MichalPenka: it depends on a lot of things - it's really up to you to determine which of these are "secure" and "maintainable" (as well as being able to perform up to par given server hardware, etc.) or not, alongside multiple users using the system.
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<vagrantc>
on the network i manage, i split the LTSP server (that handles network booting) out from the application servers (that run the applications, like gnome or firefox).
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<vagrantc>
i have multiple application servers...
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<MichalPenka>
aha, ok...did you make some documentation?
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<Gadi_CA>
MichalPenka: here is a presentation I put together to help explain some basic LTSP concepts: ftp://symbio-technologies.com/LTSPv5onUbuntu.ppt
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<MichalPenka>
;)
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thanks
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<Gadi_CA>
it may help you get some context
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<MichalPenka>
sorry, I'm not able to download it...could you please check the url?
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<Gadi_CA>
yuck
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ur right
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I'll try to put it someplace else
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<MichalPenka>
*thumbs up*
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thansk
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<Gadi_CA>
ftp://nr.symbio-technologies.com/LTSPv5onUbuntu.ppt
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try that
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<MichalPenka>
it works! thank you again
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<_UsUrPeR_>
has there been any recent inroads to getting dual monitors to work properly in Fedora 10 without using an xorg.conf yet?
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<Gadi_CA>
anybody on a Jaunty thin client that can do a quick test for me at the client shell?
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<Gadi_CA>
I am finding simply running: X :2
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breaks
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but ldm is fine
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<warren>
There's folks in #dracut working on the next generation upstream kernel initrd tools.
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We need someone who knows Debian/Ubuntu's initramfs-tools
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especially regarding its nfs root boot stuff
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<vagrantc>
i know it a bit
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<Gadi_CA>
stgraber: ping
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<vagrantc>
Gadi_CA: probably X is using /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and ldm is using /var/run/ldm-xorg.conf or some such?
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warren: what do you need?
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<Gadi_CA>
well, on the console I see a dbus error
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config/dbus
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<stgraber>
Gadi_CA: pong
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<warren>
vagrantc: what methods of nfs root config are defined?
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<Gadi_CA>
couldn't take over org.x.config
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<warren>
vagrantc: root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=something?
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<Gadi_CA>
access denied, etc, etc
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stgraber: did we have to change any policykit stuff to allow ldm to work?
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<stgraber>
no
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<Gadi_CA>
hmm...
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<vagrantc>
warren: i got patches into initramfs-tools to mimic the in-kernel behavior, so yeah, root=/dev/nfs, nfsroot=/opt/ltsp/i386, ip=dhcp should all work.
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<warren>
vagrantc: is there a non-legacy preferred method?
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<Gadi_CA>
"Connection ":1.8" not allowed to own service "org.x.config.display2" due to security policies in the configuration file
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stgraber: seen that ever?
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<stgraber>
I think so but I don't remember when or why
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<vagrantc>
warren: initramfs-tools supports arbitrary boot scripts, so has a boot=nfs or in the case of ubuntu's NBD support, boot=ltsp_nbd
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warren: there's also boot=local (the default)
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warren: the ltsp_nbd script supports nbdroot and nbdport
13:41* vagrantc would like to see defaults come from dhcp, and only have commandline prompts to override
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<warren>
vagrantc: #dracut
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<Gadi_CA>
stgraber: is your ppa having issues?
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nm
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there's internet blocking in this place
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:P
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<Lns>
Gadi_CA: ah, the accuracy of school internet filters ;)
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Can I get some help with Fedora and dual monitors? Using an xorg.conf, if I apply a "virtual" size to the monitors (for using dual screens), it freezes the USB keyboard plugged into my Intel 1520
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the USB mouse still works
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<Gadi_CA>
_UsUrPeR_: anything in the xorg log file?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
hmm
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Gadi_CA: I'll need to access it remotely from the server. Would xorg log have USB failures in it?
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Gadi_CA: because the dual monitor stuff comes up and looks great! It's just the USB keyboard stops working about 3 seconds after the login screen appears
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strangely enough, the mouse still works even after the keyboard stops
15:02* sbalneav digs into the dbus tutorials
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<Gadi_CA>
_UsUrPeR_: well, if the xorg log does not have the errors, the only other guess I would have is check dmesg
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi_CA: ok. I'll check
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<vagrantc>
epsas: looks like a fixed libxcb1 is in lenny-proposed-updates to fix 487635
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<epsas>
nice
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that's good news
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<vagrantc>
epsas: so should be included in the next point release... but some testing if it actually fixes your problems might be good :)
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<alkisg>
vagrantc, a word of wisdom, please? Do you think that using HEREDOC-style configuration.template files in ltsp-server-pnp is a good idea, or should I stick to "normal" configuration files?
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<warren>
what is ltsp-server-pnp?
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<alkisg>
warren: I'm trying to make an ltsp-server-standalone alternative that uses a new capability that dnsmasq offers called "proxy dhcp" that enables the ltsp server to provide the boot info but not the ip leases
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<warren>
oh
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<vagrantc>
it's slick.
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<alkisg>
So just a package to satisfy the dependencies, and a small autoconfiguration script
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<warren>
so you can go on an existing network
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as long as it doesn't already do PXE s
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<alkisg>
Yes. And it works with both PXE and newer gPXE
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But I'm really new to linux so I'm having trouble on how to maintain the configuration files... :(
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<warren>
s/and newer/entirely different and mostly ignored by industry gPXE/
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new to linux?
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what were you using before?
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<alkisg>
15+ years of winapi programmer :(
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<epsas>
vagrantc - for libxcb, I imagine that I will have to install it in the ltsp root as well
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<Gadi_CA>
epsas: no you shouldnt
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it is an xclient library
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<Gadi_CA>
and if you run local apps, there is no issue, as the problem that is fixed is exclusive to remote apps
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<epsas>
ahh, ok
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<try2free>
hi, please help to setting shorewall for squid and ltsp server on same machine. for ltsp use? transparent? intercept?
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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Err
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Evening.
22:05* sbalneav doesn't know what time of day it is :(
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<sbalneav>
try2free: I pointed you to a link a day or so ago
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<stgraber>
hey sbalneav
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<try2free>
sbalneav: you did and thanks for that, but i want using shorewall any links/tips?