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Channel log from 24 January 2011   (all times are UTC)

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01:28
<tech_dvo>
can I use multiple nic cards in a server?
01:28
to serve thin clients?
01:29
<muppis>
tech_dvo, haven't done that, but I don't see any reason why not.
01:38
<alkisg>
Sure, I've used 4
01:42
<tech_dvo>
how do I do that? :)
01:42
<alkisg>
Either put them on separate subnets or use bonding
01:42
<tech_dvo>
how do I set it up?
01:43
<alkisg>
Which of those two you want? Separate subnets (IPs) or all of them with the same IP like one card?
01:44
<tech_dvo>
which is easier to maintain?
01:45
<alkisg>
How are your clients wired?
01:45
How many switches, how many clients, how are those connected etc?
01:45
<tech_dvo>
one big subnet -- around 50 clients
01:46
4 16port switch
01:46
100Mbps
01:47
<alkisg>
And the switches are interconnected? Again at 100 mbps?
01:48
<tech_dvo>
yes
01:48
interconnected
01:48
<alkisg>
First of all 100 mbps is tooooooo slow for 50 clients
01:49
And even if you put 4 nics on the server and go up to 400 mbps, it'll still be too slow
01:49
I'd use 4 *gigabit* nics on the server if I were you, to get the network bandwidth up to 4 gbps
01:49
<tech_dvo>
okay
01:50
<alkisg>
Since you have 4 switches, it's easier to use different IPs on the server
01:50
And only update /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
01:50
So put IP1 = 192.168.0.10, IP2=192.168.1.10, IP3=xxx, 4 separate subnets
01:50
<tech_dvo>
okay -- that sounds easy enough
01:55
is there a sample reference for this?
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<gnunux>
hi
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02:20
<tech_dvo>
Hi gnunux
02:21
basically this is a dhcp server thing -- if all goes well at dhcp then ltsp is okay?
02:27
<alkisg>
Yes
02:31
<tech_dvo>
thanks, I got it.
02:41
<alkisg>
Btw you'll need to un-connect the switches for this to work well
02:41
As you'll have 4 dhcp servers running
02:42
(1, listening on 4 interfaces)
02:47
<tech_dvo>
1 dhcp server port per switch, right?
02:48
hmmmm...where do my router or the internet fit in?
02:48
do I have to set up NAT for this?
02:50
<alkisg>
For thin clients you don't need NAT
02:50
For fat or localapps, you do
02:50
The router can be in any switch
02:54
(10:47:23 AM) tech_dvo: 1 dhcp server port per switch, right? ==> the dhcp port will be the same, i.e. port 68. The IP will be different, i.e. the static one you've defined for that NIC.
03:04
<tech_dvo>
yup, sorry -- what I mean is the rj45 outlet
03:07
where can I disable one user logging into many clients?
03:09
<alkisg>
!lts.conf
03:09
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
03:09
<alkisg>
Read about the LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION variable there
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04:43
<tech_dvo>
why do I get the message: INFO task lsb_release:356 blocked for more than 120 seconds
04:44
/proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disable this message
04:45
and it's not booting -- this is one thin client that I specified to use XSERVER=vesa
04:45
using the [mac:address] then XSERVER=vesa
04:45
in lts.conf
04:54
<alkisg>
It might be yet another problem with nbd proxy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/589034
05:02
<tech_dvo>
how do I troubleshoot thin clients that doesn't go back to login window after a log out -- it's just a black screen
05:03
i tend to restart to thin client -- but that is inconvenient when restarting more than 10 and at different location in the classroom
05:03
<alkisg>
Heh, you do have a lot of problems with LTSP, don't you?
05:04
<tech_dvo>
hehehe -- seems that way, but I don't mind as long as I can make it work
05:04
<alkisg>
Did you solve the nbd problem?
05:05
It might be related to other types of hangs...
05:05
So solve that first before you try to troubleshoot them all at once
05:05
<tech_dvo>
the error i got before, just disappeared. I used the program you gave me. maybe it just need to wait for the internet traffic to slow down and everythings fine
05:06
i manage to load the login from two different thin clients
05:06
diff in video cards
05:06
<alkisg>
The nbd-proxy problem doesn't happen all the time
05:06
<tech_dvo>
used the man page link you gave me
05:06
<alkisg>
So you might see hangs 1-2 times out of 10
05:07
<tech_dvo>
I also have thin clients NIC (Davicom) that doesnt boot well
05:07
<alkisg>
What do you mean? Error messages? When does it stop? etc
05:07
Be more descriptive
05:08
<tech_dvo>
let me see...
05:16
alkisg:i'll try to catch you next time -- had to go out -- something came up. thanks for your expertise, sir. :)
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07:35
<_UsUrPeR_>
morning all
07:35
having problems with a 10.04 ltsp installation that will not mount USB storage devices
07:35
running lsusb, the device is detected
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in dmesg, the drive is assigned a device name (sda in this case)
07:36
it's capable of being mounted on the client if I do it manually from root
07:37
however, it does not mount itself and show up on the desktop
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<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
07:50
<_UsUrPeR_>
here's a pastebin of /ver/log/messages http://pastebin.com/CDangzK2
07:50
mgariepy: good morningh
07:50
(the h is silent)
07:50
<mgariepy>
hehe :)
07:50
<_UsUrPeR_>
...or mis-typed
07:51
about the pastebin: again, this is a problem I am having with a 10.04 server which is not automatically mounting USB storage devices
07:51
as you can see, there is no problem with detection
07:52
<mgariepy>
is your user member of fuse group
07:52
?
07:53
what's the permission on /dev/fuse ?
07:54
<_UsUrPeR_>
let me check
07:55
<mgariepy>
i'll be back in 30 minutes or so.
07:55
i'll continue helping you then
07:55
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok
08:05
mgariepy: yeah, the user is part of the fuse groups
08:05
I am running ltsp-cluster, btw
08:05
though this has not been a problem in the past
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08:14
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: ping?
08:14
<shawnp0wers>
Howdy _UsUrPeR_!
08:14
<Gadi>
no Gadis - only us penguins
08:14
<_UsUrPeR_>
shawnp0wers: how's the school business going? All well I hope.
08:14* Gadi shivers
08:15
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: pm'ing you with an issue I posted up here before you got on
08:15
don't want to flood
08:17
<shawnp0wers>
_UsUrPeR_: Meh, same old same old. I haven't had to log into my new LTSP servers in months though, so there's that. :)
08:18
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: ha, how did you manage that ;)
08:18
<shawnp0wers>
robehend1: They just work. Really, once they're set up, they tend to just work.
08:18
<_UsUrPeR_>
shawnp0wers: hey nice. Nothing like predictability and reliability.
08:18
though it does make for a boring time at work :/
08:19
<shawnp0wers>
heheh, I've got lots of other computers to work on. :)
08:19
(Including my old LTSP server, which is long in the tooth, with even older clients)
08:19
When your client computers are P133's, you're bound to have headaches. :)
08:20
But the new LTSP 5 servers are great.
08:20
Along with their new thin clients
08:20
<robehend1>
what kind of specs, may I ask? in the process of designing a new infastructure for a new building going in this fall
08:21
<shawnp0wers>
the thin clients are from disklessworkstations.com — the 1620 I think
08:21
The servers are actually old rackmount servers I recommissioned this year
08:21
dual 3.2Ghz, 32bit Xeon
08:21
They have 6GB of RAM
08:22
I'm actually running a lab of 32 thin clients from one of those servers
08:22
with localapps, the server load is fairly low
08:23
Yeah, this is the thin client I use: http://www.disklessworkstations.com/200122.html?id=IysAWXqp
08:23
Plus the vendor (ahem… _UsUrPeR_ …ahem) is really great to work with. :)
08:23
I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.1 for the server OS, only because that's what was out when I installed it.
08:24
<_UsUrPeR_>
:D
08:24* _UsUrPeR_ blushes
08:24
<mgariepy>
_UsUrPeR_, how about the permission of /dev/fuse ?
08:25
and do you have ltspfsd and ltspfsd-core installed in your chroot ?
08:25
<_UsUrPeR_>
sorry was just discussing this very problem with Gadi
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08:25
<Gadi>
:)
08:26
and yields the floor
08:26
<mgariepy>
ok then no problem ;)
08:26
<_UsUrPeR_>
but yeah, ltspfs is installed on both appserves
08:26
I am not seeing anything mounted in /media when connecting
08:28
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: hmm, i've been looking at those. Currently, i'm running fat-clients on some old p4s and celerons, but we're looking to go more green..
08:29
<mgariepy>
what's in your lts.conf ?
08:29
<shawnp0wers>
robehend1: Power usage was huge for us. Not because we're eco-friendly, sadly, but because the room just didn't have the power for 32 computers.
08:29
<mgariepy>
in /var/cache/getltscfg-cluster/lts.conf
08:30
<shawnp0wers>
But with LCD monitors and those thin clients, we haven't had a problem with power or heat
08:30
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy, one moment and I'll get that
08:32
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: we're looking for power and heat, as the building is extremely low in budget. Do you think one of those would be a decent fat client? looks like its netbook-like for specs, so i'd assume so..
08:33
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy, http://pastebin.com/U0KhhK6a
08:33
that's the lts.conf
08:34
<shawnp0wers>
robehend1: It's basically a netbook without a screen. It has no hard drive, but booting a complete OS would probably be very doable. I like LTSP for the central point of configuration, but if you're booting an OS image, and just mounting /home — it would probably work fine.
08:34
In fact, I'd like to know how it works if you do it — there would be some advantage to that setup. :)
08:34
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: we want the single point of config as well, but since the kids like to do things with Openshot and PiTiVi, i've found fat clients work the best.
08:35
ha, for sure. I take extra care to document all my steps, to the command
08:39
<mgariepy>
the permission on /dev/fuse on the applications server are ok ?
08:40
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: out of curiosity, how warm does that 1620 get with extended operation? I've used things like the Zotac box and Acer Revo, and they got warm, same specs/size
08:40
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: what should they be set at?
08:41
<shawnp0wers>
I think it gets *warm* to the touch, but not hot. Since there is no fan, I think the heat it does create stays local, and is easier to notice. I think similar computers with fans get just as hot, but send the heat to the atmosphere more efficiently
08:41
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: right now the permissions are as follows: crw-rw-rw- 1 root:fuse
08:41
<shawnp0wers>
the room itself doesn't heat up though, which isn't true withfull computers crammed in there.
08:41
<mgariepy>
0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root fuse 10, 229 2011-01-02 18:18 /dev/fuse
08:41
hmm does the usb mounts on the thin client itself ?
08:42
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: it does not mount, however it is detected, and may me mounted manually
08:43
i.e. mount /dev/sda1 /home/Desktop/whatever etc...
08:43
that needs to be run locally from the client
08:44
<mgariepy>
ok. on the appserv, does it mounts somewherE?
08:45
ex: /tmp/.whatever
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08:46
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: I am not seeing any detected USB connections or mount attempts on the appserve logs, nor do I see anything pertaining to the USB storage device in /tmp/.anything.
08:47
<mgariepy>
ps aux | grep ltspfsmounter
08:47
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: here's a ls of /tmp/ http://pastebin.com/4vfeB35b
08:49
mgariepy: output of ps aux http://pastebin.com/XwPLCNyp
08:49
directories in /tmp/ltsp-localapps-jsass-5p5gPb/ are applications and icons
08:52
<mgariepy>
yeah, when the usb key is in the thin client do you have a directory : /var/run/drive/usbdisk-* ?
08:53
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: I see one, but it is empty
08:54
on the client locally
08:55
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: hmm, alright. I'm going to have to see if i can order one, to give it a shot. right after i figure out how if testnav will run on ubuntu ;)
09:00
<shawnp0wers>
robehend1: Also, if you want to try LTSP, using localapps works great for intensive applications
09:00
I have a CAD program running as a local app, and it works great
09:03
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: I did localapps before I went to thin clients. Works great for most things, I agree.
09:04
<shawnp0wers>
cool, then I'm even MORE interested in your fat client results. :D
09:04
Not that there's anything wrong with LTSP. (pats the #ltsp channel on the back)
09:04
;)
09:04
<robehend1>
I've got fat clients currently running on all my ltsp deployments, actually
09:04
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: any further ideas?
09:05
I am wondering if a rebuild of the cleint image may be a good idea
09:07
<mgariepy>
_UsUrPeR_, can you try to add the LOCALDEV=True in your configuration ?
09:08
which version of ltsp do you have ?
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09:09
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy, ltsp-server 5.2.1-0ubuntu9
09:11
also ltsp-cluster-lbserver 2.0.0-0ubuntu2, ltsp-cluster-lbagent 2.0.2-pubuntu1, ltsp-cluster-control 2.0.200ubuntu1 ltsp-cluster-accountmanger 2.0.3-0ubuntu1
09:11
mgariepy: ^^
09:11
I will set localdev=true
09:12
mgariepy, LOCALDEV is not an option in cluster's admin interface
09:13
is there a simple way to add that? If not, this will take me a bit to kae changes to the admin database
09:14
<mgariepy>
yes there is how did you first add the option in the LTSP_CC ?
09:15
did you uses a python script ?
09:15
<_UsUrPeR_>
no, I manually edited the postgres databse
09:16
<mgariepy>
ok,
09:16
_UsUrPeR_, INSERT INTO attributesdef (name) VALUE ('LOCALDEV')
09:17
INSERT INTO attributesdef (name,attributetype) VALUES ('LOCALDEV','1');
09:17
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: is there a script for this? If so, what is it?
09:17
<mgariepy>
stephane made a script for this
09:17
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: I've found that with fat clients, things tend to just "work" easier. Kids are able to , say, plug in a webcam and have it work in cheese. same with scanners and such. also have less issues with speed, espicially with some java-based programs, like the PhET series for education.
09:18
<mgariepy>
it's in ltsp-cluster-control bzr branch
09:18
but the 5 SQL lines a quite simple
09:18
<shawnp0wers>
robehend1: Do you have a writeup of how you do it? You're making me more and more interested...
09:18
<mgariepy>
i can give them to you
09:18
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: simple as day. just build a normal client, and attach the --fat-client operator. It's all scripted.
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09:19
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: I would appreciate that
09:19
<shawnp0wers>
OH, so using the LTSP "sub-system" for lack of a better word.
09:19
robehend1: I thought you built your own solution
09:19
<robehend1>
shawnp0wers: I'd recommend also giving it a different name, like fati386, to help differentiate between your existing chroots. So the command would be "sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 --fat-client --chroot fati386"
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09:19
<shawnp0wers>
cool, I'll have to try it… :)
09:20
<robehend1>
oh, nope. i'm going off the work thats already done, since 5.2 came out.
09:20
one if the biggest benefits, at least to my users, was having the mime-types just work. click on a pdf download, it opens a pdf viewer, etc.
09:20
<mgariepy>
_UsUrPeR_, first you add the attribute in the DB
09:21
you need how to connect to postgresql database first
09:22
_UsUrPeR_, just ping me when you are connected to your DB with psql
09:23
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok, no problem
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<_UsUrPeR_>
typically I create a file with something like this in it -- "INSERT INTO attributesdef (name, etc...)" into a file, then psql ltsp < add.sql
09:25
mgariepy: I am in psql though. go ahead with your instructions
09:25
<mgariepy>
i would do like : psql -h localhost ltsp
09:25
ok :) perfect
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<mgariepy>
first create the attribute LOCALDEV: INSERT INTO attributesdef (name) VALUE ('LOCALDEV');
09:26
then change the type of the attributes: INSERT INTO attributesdef (name,attributetype) VALUES ('LOCALDEV','1');
09:27
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy, ERROR: syntax error at or near "VALUE"
09:28
<mgariepy>
INSERT INTO attributesdef (name,attributetype) VALUES ('LOCALDEV','1');
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<mgariepy>
sorry
09:29
lol,
09:29
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: it's cool. I got it
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09:29
<_UsUrPeR_>
INSERT INTO attributesdef (name, attributeclass, attributetype, mask, editable) VALUES ('LOCALDEV', 'ltsp', 0, '^[^'']{0,254}$', 0);
09:29
now that is supposed to = TRUE?
09:29* _UsUrPeR_ insets that into lts.conf
09:30
<mgariepy>
SELECT id,name FROM attributesdef where name='LOCALDEV'
09:30
that will give you the id, then you need to add the true and false into de DV
09:30
DB
09:31
INSERT INTO attributesdefdict (attributesdef_id,value,sortval) VALUES ('<YOUR ID HERE','True','0');
09:31
INSERT INTO attributesdefdict (attributesdef_id,value,sortval) VALUES ('<YOUR ID HERE','FALSE','0');
09:31
INSERT INTO attributesdefdict (attributesdef_id,value,sortval) VALUES ('<YOUR ID HERE','False','0');
09:31
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: I got it. I just put in TRUE manually, however I will update my docs with the proper way to add options
09:32
<mgariepy>
ok, so set this to true and then restart your thin client
09:32
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: ok, /var/cache/getltscfg-cluster shows LOCALDEV="TRUE" now along with the previous copied statements
09:32
<mgariepy>
problably just logout and login would do.
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09:34
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: after a reboot, same results. /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sda1 is empty. no mount to the desktop
09:36
<mgariepy>
does ltspfsmounter get called /
09:36
<Gadi>
need to reboot
09:36
ltspfsd needs to get launche
09:36
*launched
09:37
<mgariepy>
Gadi, you have a lucid in production, any trouble with usb stick ?
09:38
<Gadi>
nope
09:38
we would have heard about it in the channel if there were
09:38
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy / Gadi: I rebooted the client. Do you think the app servers/cluster server need to be rebooted as well?
09:38
<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: ps -efw|grep ltspfsd
09:38
on the client
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: that ps aux results in response root 1601 1 0 06:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ltspfsd
09:40
<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: is there a /var/run/ltspfs_fstab?
09:40
on the client
09:41
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: yes. It's contents is as follows: /dev/sda1 /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sda1 vfat defaults,utf8 0 0
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<mgariepy>
can you try to replace the /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter on the appserv to see if it's called ?
09:42
<Gadi>
sounds like a server-side problem to me
09:43
firewall on the server?
09:43
I guess that wouldn't matter
09:43
hmm...
09:44
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy, replace it? should I download a replacement or just re-install a package?
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<mgariepy>
copy and put a bash script instead
09:48
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: I.E. replace #!/usr/bin/python with #!/bin/bash ?
09:49
<mgariepy>
do : mv /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter.BACKUP
09:49
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: ok, done.
09:50
<mgariepy>
and put : http://pastebin.com/zKpmWbtY
09:50
<_UsUrPeR_>
that's on my appserve
09:50
<mgariepy>
+ a chmod +x on the file.
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09:52
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: ok, done
09:52
<mgariepy>
unplug and plug the usb key into the thin client
09:52
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok
09:53
<mgariepy>
does the /tmp/ltspfsmounter.log contain somethings ?
09:55
<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy, I am not seeing any output to the temp file. here's the information http://pastebin.com/QWbBFzSr
09:56
<mgariepy>
hmm
09:56
weird
09:57
<_UsUrPeR_>
indeed :/
09:58* _UsUrPeR_ reboots client
09:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
I made the change on both app servers
09:59
<mgariepy>
gadi any idea ?
10:01
Gadi _UsUrPeR_, i'm out of idea, udev works since /var/run/ltspfs_fstab is populated
10:01
but ltspfsmounter doesn't get mounted with the right options
10:01
<Gadi>
on phone - but if the log exists and is empty that is more troublesome than if the log does not exist at all
10:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
hwoop
10:02
hold. I just rebooted the client
10:02
and attempted to plug in again
10:03
cat /tmp/ltspfsmounter.log shows "/var/run/drives/usbdisk-sda1 add"
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mgariepy & Gadi: ^^
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<mgariepy>
ltspfsmounter.backup "/var/run/drives/usbdisk-sda1 add
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as the user
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ok, on the appserve, correct?
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<mgariepy>
yep
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ls -las /bin/fusermount
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please
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<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy, output: http://pastebin.com/Ed4QDb6m
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<mgariepy>
32 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 31328 2010-12-10 09:15 /bin/fusermount
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oops, without the quotes
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<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: output to ls -las /bin/fusermount --- 32 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 31392 2010-12-10 09:17 /bin/fusermount
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mgariepy: without quotes still ERROR connecting error showing in my pastebin
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mgariepy: second line is "Error: /tmp/.root-ltspfs/usbdisk-sda1 is not mounted"
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<mgariepy>
can you do taht as a USER ? ltspfsmounter.org "/var/run/drives/usbdisk-sda1" add
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<_UsUrPeR_>
mgariepy: same error as a user instead of root
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<mgariepy>
you did it in the X session ?
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<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: 32-bit client, right?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: aye. 64-bit servers
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and 32-bit clients
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<Guest14144>
Need assistance LTSP client and auto mounting usb flash drive
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using ltsp server to network boot clients then connect via rdesktop to windows xp virtual machine
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usb drive is detected but doesn't mount automatically
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<Appiah>
dist and version?
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<Guest14144>
ubuntu 10.10
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<Gadi>
32-bit client?
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<Guest14144>
yes
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<Gadi>
--arch i386?
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<Guest14144>
i386
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<Gadi>
ltspfs installed on the server?
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<Guest14144>
lsmod |grep fuse returns nothing
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yes
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<Gadi>
ls -l /dev/fuse
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<Guest14144>
according to Ubuntu Wiki DebugLocalDev it should show fuse is loaded
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crw-rw-rw- 1 root fuse
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<Appiah>
ltspfs on the server and ltspsd(?!) in the chroot
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<Gadi>
fuse is no longer a modulee, but in-kernel
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<Guest14144>
how do i check?
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<Gadi>
user is in fuse group?
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<Appiah>
k
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<Guest14144>
root is member of fuse, yes
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<Gadi>
gack! don't log in as root
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you logging in as root from the thin client?
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<Guest14144>
i just added a shell screen
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to troubleshoot
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default is root
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<Gadi>
oh
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I meant in ldm
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the user you use to log into the server
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<Guest14144>
no ldm, running rdesktop
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<Gadi>
should be a member of the fuse group
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ah, well, you need to start with that info
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:D
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<Guest14144>
i login as root on server
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bad?
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<Gadi>
you are not logging into the server at all
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if you run rdesktop as SCREEN_07
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instead of ldm
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<Guest14144>
no running as SCREEN_02
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make a difference?
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<Gadi>
can you paste your lts.conf?
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<Guest14144>
sure
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<Gadi>
pastebin
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not here
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:)
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<Guest14144>
pastebin?
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hmm
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sorry learning irc as well :(
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<alkisg>
!pastebin
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "pastebin" :: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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<Gadi>
thx, alkisg
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:)
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<Guest14144>
ok i think it's there
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<Gadi>
paste the URL
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from the browser
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<Guest14144>
http://ltsp.pastebin.com/9sWVRMDw
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that it?
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<Gadi>
yup
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thx
13:45
ok, do this:
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RDP_OPTIONS="-r sound:local -a 16 -r disk:Drives=/media/root"
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that's a : and a D
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and not a smiley
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:)
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<Guest14144>
lol
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k
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one sec
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<Gadi>
then do this:
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sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install ltspfs
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<highvoltage>
looks like a smiley to me
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<Gadi>
sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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then, reboot the client
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and you should have a "Drives" folder in Windows under My Computer
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usb sticks will appear as folders under the Drives foler when inserted
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and will disappear when removed
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<Guest14144>
ok updating
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will give it a go... stay tune
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Should i be using SCREEN_07 instead of SCREEN_02?
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<Gadi>
doesnt matter
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as long as you know where you put it
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:)
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2 means you use ctrl-alt-f2 to switch to it
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if you have multiple screens
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<Guest14144>
your a genius...it works!!!
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<Gadi>
as opposed to ctrl-alt-f7
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<Guest14144>
couldn't find any docs to fix this
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<Gadi>
we like to keep as much undocumented as possible to frustrate users
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blame the marketing department
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:)
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<Guest14144>
i really appreciate your help. so it was only missing ltspfs on the client?
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<Gadi>
so, rdesktop runs locally on the client
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<Guest14144>
yes
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<Gadi>
and the client, by default, doesnt have any kind of automounter to manage mounting drives
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<Guest14144>
well the ltsp client
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<Gadi>
as the client has no desktop environment
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so, since we use ltspfs as our network automounter for mounts from Linux to the client
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<Guest14144>
well i guess that step should be added in the documentation
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:(
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<Gadi>
we thought it suitable to use ltspfs also to automount locally on the client for non-Linux sessions
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<Guest14144>
that's great, all is good now
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<Gadi>
but, since by default, EVERYONE uses LTSP to connect to Linux... :)
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<Guest14144>
you saved me a lot of troubleshooting time
13:55* Gadi is being a bit facetious
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<Guest14144>
thanks again
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<Gadi>
though nonetheless factually accurate
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np
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enjoy!
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<Guest14144>
should i see a folder for the cdrom in the Drives folder?
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there is one for Floppy and usb but none for cdrom
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<Gadi>
only when you insert a CD
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<Guest14144>
Just discovered that
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thanks :)
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<rpm_>
Hi all, I have a strange issue, I am running ltsp-cluster on ubuntu 10.04.1 and when I have a new user login for the first time the gnome panel never loads. I have to open a terminal with ctrl+alt+t and then killall gnome-panel. once that is done the problem goes away. Does anyone have any ideas?
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<Gadi>
rpm_: are you using likewise to authenticate?
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<rpm_>
yes
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<Gadi>
I have been seeing the same thing!
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<rpm_>
that sucks!
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<Gadi>
yeah
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I think it is a race condition
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between gnome and likewise's mkhomedir equivalent
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<rpm_>
any ideas on how to fix it?
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<Gadi>
not yet - but if you find one I am very interested
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:)
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<rpm_>
Didn't think so, bummer.
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<Gadi>
I can tell you it happens with likewise-open version 6, as well
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so, upgrading doesnt help
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(with that bug)
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<rpm_>
Have you tried CentrifyExpress?
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I tried that initialy but didn't like the response time from there customer service so I went with likewise
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<Gadi>
I have not
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<rpm_>
I am gonna try contacting likewise and see if they can resolve the issue, I was in contact with Joshua M. from their support staff and he was very helpfull and even went as far as setting up a lab wiht ltsp to fix an issue I was having wher only 15 or so clients could log in. I will also try centrify in parallel to see if that just fixes the issue. Thanks, knowing that it is probably likewise helps alot.
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<Gadi>
rpm_: was it a problem with lsassd hanging?
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rpm_: I found that problem, too after 20 or so clients - upgraded to version 6 just today to see if that resolves the issue
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<rpm_>
don't known, he didn't specify what the actual issue was but was able to fix it.
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<Gadi>
what was the fix?
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<rpm_>
The latest version of likewise seemed to fix it. I have to run I'll be back later though. thanks again
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<remote>
howdy
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would it be overkill to run LTSP in qemu to serve a PowerPC?
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i have this nice 20" imac g5 i would like to give a second life
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<alkisg>
remote: you don't need to constantly run it in qemu
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You just need a powerpc kernel + virtual disk (chroot)
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So if you prepare such a kernel + disk in qemu or even in some real powerpc hardware, then you can just use them on an i386 machine without qemu
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<remote>
oh really this is great news
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i worked with LTSP in 2002 i'm sure it changed a lot since
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<remote>
i noticed that ubuntu's ltsp-server-standalone package provides nbd-server, but while i was reading cross arch ltsp doc from ubuntu wiki they recommend using nfs, should i favor one over the other?
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<NeonLicht>
Is Ubuntu going back to NFS?
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<remote>
they're providing nbd-server with the ltsp package
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why do you ask?
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<NeonLicht>
I'm curious. It's not that I ever plan to use it or anything. Just curious.
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