IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 14 January 2020   (all times are UTC)

02:45
<linux_user>
alkisg: hello
03:16
alkisg: you online?
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05:36
<alkisg>
linux_user: here; but in general, just ask the question, and me or anyone will answer when they see it
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09:05
<Talikka>
are there some online courses for LTSP studying? Linux Foundation MOOC?
09:08
<alkisg>
Talikka: most of the ltsp documentation is in ltsp.org and the man pages and wiki linked from there
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09:09
<alkisg>
LTSP is just a program, I wouldn't expect to find "courses" online about it
09:15
<Talikka>
thanks ... I am still a noob but surrounded by experienced people (right now in Helsinki we are discussing these EU project and business opportunities in Eastern Europe: Linux and refurb ICT and training)
09:16
alkisg does not seem to use LinkedIn even though he has a profile there. We might want to send you and some other European potential colleagues some email.
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09:17
<alkisg>
Talikka: yeah I have a permanent job, no need for linkedin, and too much spam there. My email is alkisg at gmail if you need it, note though that I'm only interested in sponsored development, not really in bureaucratic things, I avoid those :D
09:43
!tag
09:43
<ltspbot>
tag: devs: before tagging a new ltsp version, remember to have launchpad export translations to the branch: https://translations.launchpad.net/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/+translations-settings
09:44
<alkisg>
!forget tag
09:44
<ltspbot>
The operation succeeded.
09:44
<alkisg>
!learn tag as git tag -s v20.01 -m 'Version 20.01; git push --tags
09:44
<ltspbot>
The operation succeeded.
09:45
<alkisg>
!vagrantc-todo
09:45
<ltspbot>
I do not know about 'vagrantc-todo', but I do know about these similar topics: 'vagrant-todo'
09:45
<alkisg>
!vagrant-todo
09:45
<ltspbot>
vagrant-todo: (#1) awk in 09-hostname, or (#2) arm network boot, or (#3) fix network-manager https://bugs.debian.org/810934
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12:35
<gvy>
Talikka, I can give you an address of the guy who helped me create ALTSP some ten years ago, he might be available for hire (but it's Kiev and not EU at all)
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13:49
<dgroos>
Hi. good-news: The solution of making 8.8.8.8 the only dns server with the command sudo ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=8.8.8.8 survived the "stress-test" yesterday: not a single time did a student get a message when doing a google search: "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN". However...
13:51
The bad news is that I got a call from the district office towards the end of my 3rd hour telling me that they were getting reports that some computers in the building were booting to Ubuntu (our district only does windows/mac).
13:52
<alkisg>
AFAIK in EU it's against the low to enforce a specific vendor
13:52
*law
13:52
Not sure if this is also true for private schools though
13:53
<dgroos>
:-D I'll tell them that and if they give me a hard time I'll move to EU!
13:54
(I'm at a public school)
13:55
<alkisg>
Also, the test probably means that your district DNS server isn't running very smoothly...
13:55
<dgroos>
It's great however that I'm no longer at that particular school with that particular admin, I've actually got great admin now... so there's no major problem with this mishap.
13:56
However, I'm trying to understand how it happened 1) so I don't do it again and 2) so that I can re-fix my googling problem :)
13:56
<alkisg>
Aaaah now I got what you meant
13:56
So you have a 2-NIC setup, and some PCs in the internet-facing NIC booted as LTSP clients
13:57
To avoid that, you run: sudo ltsp dnsmasq -p0
13:57
<dgroos>
exactly
13:57
<alkisg>
...which means "no proxy"
13:57
You can also set it in ltsp.conf so that you don't forget it
13:58
<dgroos>
cool, and I do that following the sudo ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=8.8.8.8 ?
13:58
<alkisg>
No, because it would generate ANOTHER dnsmasq.conf, overwriting the previous one
13:58
You need to combine the commands
13:58
ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=8.8.8.8 -p0
13:59
Just put this in ltsp.conf:
13:59
[server]
13:59
PROXY_DHCP=0
13:59
Then you don't need to worry about it anymore
13:59
<dgroos>
OK! And I'll change the ltsp.conf, too. THANKS again Alkis!
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14:00
<alkisg>
Which means that you won't need -p0 anymore
14:00
It'll be the default then
14:00
np, have fun
14:03
<dgroos>
No need to re-run ltsp image / [ipxe] etc?
14:03
<alkisg>
No
14:03
<dgroos>
yes to fun!
14:03
OK have a great afternoon :D
14:04
<alkisg>
Good morning to you too! :)
14:04
<dgroos>
:)
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18:49
<dgroos>
Hi @alkisg
18:49* alkisg waves
18:49
<dgroos>
:-)
18:50
I thought that the problem with google searches not working was solved by changing the dns server of the clients to 8.8.8.8
18:50
but find that it still is happening.
18:51
so looks like the what actually helped yesterday was that it was working as a proxy server.
18:52
<alkisg>
Nah this doesn't make sense. I'll finish writing an email and I may help in 5-10 minutes, if you want
18:52
<dgroos>
In other words, I had no problems when my machine was handing out images to the WAN but when I restricted that, the problem returned.
18:52
Thanks, I do!
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19:04
<alkisg>
dgroos: ready
19:04
!vnc-edide
19:04
<ltspbot>
vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
19:19
<dgroos>
@alkisg, so sorry, colleagues walked into the room and we had to talk about something
19:19
np if no time now
19:19
<alkisg>
dgroos: vnc
19:21
dgroos: so, the clients have dns = 10.x
19:21
Is this the desired result?
19:22
<dgroos>
but... I did the 8.8.8.8 command...
19:23
<alkisg>
That one was done a dgroos, with no rights
19:23
It probably answered "need root" or something...
19:23
And that one had no dns, so it used the autodetected one
19:23
Let's do it properly
19:24
<uumas>
(should probably recommend 1.1.1.1 over 8.8.8.8)
19:25
<alkisg>
dgroos: it's ready now, I put them in ltsp.conf so that they always take effect
19:25
<dgroos>
ok!
19:25
thanks!!
19:25
<alkisg>
Clients need to be rebooted to test
19:25
np
19:25
<dgroos>
ok
19:25
And just checking... it won't boot to WAN?
19:26
(I mean, WAN won't pick up the image?
19:26
<alkisg>
Nope, I put PROXY_DHCP=0 in ltsp.conf
19:26
So it won't ever do that again :)
19:27
<dgroos>
:-D!!!
19:27
OK, now to work w/students in front of me :-)
19:27
<alkisg>
Remember to reboot clients :)
19:27
Cheers
19:28
<dgroos>
right now!
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23:49
<jgee>
In the new ltsp.conf, where can I add Xserver options? (what used to be X_OPTIONS_01), I need "NoAccel" for some clients