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has anybody got any experience with running LTSP over an VPN
w/ separate computer for VPN connectivity; obviously it can technically work
Are you having any specific issues?
pondering about our setup in the future
anyway, the vpn would be over 100 megabit fiber optic connection and both ends in the same operators network
I'm not sure if DHCP can work over VPN, but other than that, you shouldn't have any issues...
gigabit is recommented for ltsp though
You could use fat clients with some local caching to speed it up
Or a proxy nbd server, to intercept the bulk of the traffic
(xnbd-server could do that part easily)
well we use fat clients anyway; ltsp mostly provides an easy way of generating the disk images and hosting them
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Are you using the default sshfs for home?
sorry no, we use NFS directly from our file server
sshfs only for guest users
Which is over the vpn?
(the file server)
but in the future probably
And are you caching the squashfs image somewhere, or you only have that in the ltsp server?
(the one served via nbd)
on the server
we could actually just switch the guest users over to tempfs... it's not like the files are needed
would need to make an script to copy skel over to the new session every time a guest logs in
The file server will be in one location, right? So some of the users will be local, and the others remote?
yep, and the file server would be over the VPN after migrating
Instead of caching the nbd image, you could also mirror it in a second server
That server would have (proxy)dhcp, tftp and nbd services only
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we could just run the LTSP server locally although the home folders are on the external server
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vagrantc: work_alkisg told me that you found a bug when trying to broadcast with epoptes. Can you confirm that it's because a .config/epoptes directory wasn't created on the first run and that it worked the second time you tried after closing epoptes?
Phantomas: i can try booting again...
Phantomas: or i could manually remove .config/epoptes and try again
Phantomas: i don't know if it matters ... i was also logging in from the console and running "startx" rather than using a display manager
vagrantc: Sure, please run it from a terminal so we can see a traceback if something crashes.
I don't think that it matters.
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Phantomas: it doesn't create ~/.config/epoptes at all
Phantomas: maybe some XDG_* variable isn't set, due to running without a display manager?
hrm. and now it created it on the third try...
epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
|17:09||* vagrantc forgets how to install the client certificates with ltsp|
i guess i'll just do ltsp-pnp style instead.
Phantomas: ok, it appears to work once .config/epoptes gets created
although it didn't create .config/epoptes until the third launch
unless i'm confused
vagrantc: It's a bug (epoptes bug). It creates the .config/epoptes dir whenever the config module wants to write a config file
and that, currently, happens when epoptes closes (clean close)
after stopping epoptes, manually removing .config/epoptes, starting epoptes, broadcasts fail. stopping and then starting epoptes again makes it work
Phantomas: yup, you've got it.
i don't know if i was just confused about the third time issue
yep. Thanks for the confirmation testing! Will fix it ASAP
epoptes is stuck in jessie-backports NEW queue ... hopefully it'll get approved soon
probably. Or you control-c'd it maybe?
ah, that could be
I'm not really familiar with the debian release processes (I feel a bit guilty :P). So didn't get much from what you said except that we'll get approved soon :D
Phantomas: ah, current stable release is jessie, but i've uploaded the newer epoptes to jessie-backports, but it's still waiting on being approved to get into the archive
normally new upstream versions don't go into a debian stable release
Oh, that's great, hope we get approved, we had quite a few fixes in 0.5.8
btw we are on 0.5 since 2012.... It's really time to move to 0.6
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I think that 0.5 became a habit :p
in general, i'd increment at least once a year
We do have time to do another epoptes release in testing before it becomes stable, right?
plenty of time
Phantomas: roughly a year :)
or, at least till June
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hey everyone, i'm running a headless ubuntu 14.04 x64 server to host ltsp, if that matters. why when i run ltsp-update-kernels does it set the permissions to not be world readable? my tftp server can't read vmlinuz etc then of course
running ltsp 5.5.1 from the ubuntu repos.
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vagrantc: lightdm-webkit-greeter 1.0 released
wow, so it is in fact back from the dead
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sbalneav: pushed to ubuntu?
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maldridge: I doubt it.
Someone will have to package it.
I may be confusing things here, this is the thing that handles logins correct? I thought that was packaged
There are two phases to software being available in a particular distro.
1) is actually the "upstream" writing the software, fixing bugs, etc.
yes, but my understanding was the whole point of launchpad is that it does automatic package building
ah, that clears up my confusion
They may automatically check it when it comes time to make another release.
But it won't get updated between releases.
In the meantime, you can just download the tarball, compile and install that way.
|22:50||* maldridge is on another distro and shall package it there|
sbalneav: for a feature request, is there a place to route that to?
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