IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

00:22* vagrantc struggles with figuring out how to sanely handle the various combinations of local, remote and local+remote syslogging
00:34
<vagrantc>
maybe SYSLOG=remote (or empty) treat it as it is treated now ... which leaves the door open for SYSLOG=local causing it to read whatever file is configured.
00:35
the way it is handled now, is it blindly configures for only remote syslogging, which is a decent default (saves memory) but not very flexible.
00:44* vagrantc looks for a comprehensive list of lts.conf variables
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<vagrantc>
!topics
00:44
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
00:44
<vagrantc>
ltspbot: factoids search --values
00:44
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'pastebot', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'ltsp5', 'ltsp5', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', and 'integration'
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<slipttees>
hello
02:57
someone can help me ?
02:57
<vagrantc>
only if you ask a question
02:57
<slipttees>
XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling host unwinlling
02:58
<vagrantc>
ltspbot: learn lts.conf as http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
02:58
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
02:58
<slipttees>
my SO= debian sarge+ltsp4.2
02:58
<vagrantc>
ltspbot: lts.conf
02:58
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
02:58
<slipttees>
?
02:59
<vagrantc>
slipttees: hrm. i've seen that error message once in a great while, but i never remember what it's about.
02:59
<slipttees>
vagrantc: o_O
03:00
debian sarge+ltsp4.2+kde
03:01
!pastebot
03:01
<ltspbot>
slipttees: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp
03:02
<vagrantc>
ltspbot: learn pastebot as unfortunately, the pastebot is currently broken. The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp
03:02
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
03:03
<vagrantc>
slipttees: you could try http://pastebin.ca and post the link here ...
03:03
slipttees: or there's other ones, too.
03:04
<slipttees>
i't ok
03:06
http://pastebin.ca/361710
03:08
http://pastebin.ca/361714
03:08
vagrantc: ??
03:08
:(
03:09
<vagrantc>
no idea, sorry.
03:09
<slipttees>
ok
03:09
i can replace all confs ;)
03:09
<vagrantc>
heh.
03:10
try debian/etch and the ltsp packages included with it :)
03:10
<slipttees>
it' ok fo you vagrantc ?
03:10
<vagrantc>
?
03:10
<slipttees>
bah!]
03:10
ltsp5 :(
03:10
sorry my ltsp5 is #$$#@
03:10
ltsp4.2 the best :D
03:10
<vagrantc>
it's the only ltsp i know, really.
03:11
ltsp 5 that is ...
03:11
<slipttees>
install scrap :(
03:11
<vagrantc>
and i can claim to know all two implementations fairly well :)
03:11
<slipttees>
much problem!
03:12
<vagrantc>
slipttees: and ltsp 4.2 seems to be problem free :P
03:12
<slipttees>
ltspadmin the best :D
03:12
nope..ubuntu 6.06 full work
03:12
:D
03:12
<vagrantc>
it would be good to make an ltspadmin -like tool for ltsp 5
03:12
<slipttees>
floopy,cdrom.pendrive,ipod :D
03:13
<vagrantc>
should work with ubuntu 6.10
03:13
<slipttees>
ltsp-build-client
03:13
<vagrantc>
and isn't hard to get to work with debian/etch now.
03:13
<slipttees>
:S
03:13
<vagrantc>
slipttees: what's wrong with ltsp-build-client?
03:13
<slipttees>
only two command for install :(
03:14
<vagrantc>
you would prefer one command for install ?
03:14
<slipttees>
nope
03:14
<vagrantc>
you would prefer 1000 commands for install ?
03:14
<slipttees>
install manual's best :)
03:14
ys ys
03:14
yep yep :F
03:14
:D
03:15
<vagrantc>
slipttees: you are very different from most users then :P
03:15
<slipttees>
:D
03:15
<vagrantc>
most folks want it to be 0-1 steps.
03:15
<slipttees>
ehhe :)
03:17
jammcq: ping
03:17
:$
03:18
XDMCP Error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling
03:18
:(
03:18
<nick125_lappy>
2/wi12
03:18* nick125_lappy slaps tab complete
03:18
<slipttees>
what?
03:19
workstation screen return blinking blinking
03:19
xserver failed, press <Enter> to continue
03:19
5seg later
03:19
blinking blinking
03:20
xserver failded, press <enter> to continue
03:20
:'(
03:20
i already replace all confs
03:20* slipttees killin myself! bah bah!
03:22
<slipttees>
:'(
03:22
f*ck*ins screen error arrgg :@
03:23
wopps
03:24
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
03:25
<vagrantc>
slipttees: your "Manager unwilling host unwilling" error is probably your real problem.
03:26
<slipttees>
> Warning: Type " ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols Errors fro xkbcomp are not falal to the X server
03:27
Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling
03:27
:(
03:29
aarrgg :@
03:29
I give up! :(
03:29* slipttees reinstall ubuntu 6.06.1 :S
03:30
<slipttees>
clear
03:30
woops
03:30
:S
03:30
vagrantc: thanks for all!
03:31
see ya
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<vagrantc>
slipttees: i try :)
03:31
<slipttees>
=]
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<freemind>
helo folks...
05:35
i need to know if someone do a web interface for manage ltsp?
05:36
no like webmin module but with admin, teacher and user session in some user's cases
05:51
<sepski>
freemind, you can look at lwat, or cipux, or phpldapadmin, or gosa
05:51
opps i read ltsp as ldap
05:51
all those are for ldap sorry :)
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<freemind>
oops...
05:57
hi...
05:58
hehehe ok...
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<cliebow>
freemind:yes;;Gadi has a symbiont app based on webmin
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<freemind>
hi...
06:53
reading on http://termserv.berlios.de/ltsp-module/
06:53
i'm see the module are just for client configuration
08:03
<cliebow>
freemind:yes i think that is right
08:04
ive been thinking bout a perl cgi module for dhcpd.conf..perhaps libertaed from smoothwall
08:04
<freemind>
i will struct better what i wanna say
08:04
<cliebow>
k
08:05
<freemind>
tks :-)
08:06
<cliebow>
i know just enough to be dangerous...
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<gmanic>
hi, havin trouble with a printer at a workstation - lp_server is dying all the time and printing does not work (parallel printer on lp0) - hints?
09:33
<cliebow>
if ubuntu..might want to speak to ogra..
09:36
<gmanic>
sorry to bother, now i found it - module lp and parport not loaded on workstation... god damn, how could i be such an idiot... ;-)
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<slipttees>
!pastbot
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<ltspbot>
slipttees: Error: "pastbot" is not a valid command.
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<slipttees>
!past
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<ltspbot>
slipttees: Error: "past" is not a valid command.
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<slipttees>
arrgg :@
11:51
!pastebot
11:51
<ltspbot>
slipttees: "pastebot" is (#1) The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp, or (#2) unfortunately, the pastebot is currently broken. The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the (1 more message)
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<slipttees>
vagrantc:
12:58
:)
12:58
http://pastebot.nd.edu/1774.
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Unwilling
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about session XDMCP KDE male! ;)
13:01
vagrantc:
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http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/XDMCP-KDM
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<slipttees>
shit! :@
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<rossman>
I have two quick questions here.
14:08
1) where do I set the login screen that ltsp uses? I set it in the administration panel, but it's not using the one I set for remote login.
14:09
2) isn't there a gnome default in the config somewhere that limits the number of possible logins at one time? And shouldn't I change that to some very large number to allo9w for all my people to login?
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<mistik1>
greetings
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<chupacabra>
yo mistik1
15:43
you need a laugh?
15:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIjjWXstjZc
15:55* mistik1 boycotts youtube
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<chupacabra>
oic
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<cliebow>
mistik1: does your distro define an env variablr named HARDWARE_PLATFORM?
16:40
<mistik1>
mistik1@firelinks ~/chroots $ echo $HARDWARE_PLATFORM
16:40
mistik1@firelinks ~/chroots $
16:40
guess not
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<cliebow>
i can set HARDWARE_PLATFORM=1386? right syntax?
16:41
<mistik1>
export
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<cliebow>
ahhh
16:42
<mistik1>
not set I would think
16:44
<dberkholz>
mistik1: i am here for a min
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: hey man, I'm sorry about the other day, I asked to speak with you then the phone started ringing ;)
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: another option from mkxf86config is to use `system-config-display --noui`, which is about the same as i expect red hat to use
16:46
<mistik1>
dbe: I am now working on the ltsp-client.ltsp-client-setup.init
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<jamie>
any one tell me how to start the sound server esd on the client?
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: this is in portage?
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: yes
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<mistik1>
hmm
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: all the modular X drivers now install files to /usr/share/hwdata, which it uses
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<mistik1>
bah masked
16:50
Well What I had going here used hwdata to discover the devices but I was scripting to provide the custom options from lts.conf
16:51
Do you know if s-c-d supports dual head configs?
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: masked? shouldn't be ... maybe ~arch
16:59
mistik1: mm, i think it's supposed to. i can't test how well it works
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: I think it it would work just as nicely with what i'm doing here when we get a chance to test it
17:02
Everything I do for the custom options is done after the file is generated so it will patch in fine
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: sure, it's just a question of how much gentoo actually has to support stuff, versus letting someone else take care of it
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we basically maintain our own hwdata database now, hwdata-gentoo, which mkxf86config uses
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so if it's out of date, then ltsp won't work right
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but system-config-display and the hwdata files for it are hopefully kept nicely up to date by red hat
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<mistik1>
understood
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<dberkholz>
they also need to be imported into gentoo regularly, but since that isn't as much work, it theoretically should be easier
17:13
<mistik1>
very nice, The package pulls in all of the xorg modules
17:15
<jamie>
any on tell me which .conf to edit to tell gnome to use esd?
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<jammcq>
petre: hey, what are the dates for the linux fest you are setting up?
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<petre>
jammcq: June 14 & 15
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<jammcq>
ok
19:32
thanks
19:32
<petre>
will you be able to make it?
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<jammcq>
dunno yet
19:32
june is pretty busy
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<petre>
yeah, I know
19:33
we like to wait until school is out, which means the middle of June here
19:33
but if we wait too long, say, July, then we lose people to vacations, etc.
19:35
Just remember: Murray's, "Home of the silver butterknife steak" is calling ;-)
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<dan__t>
hi
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<vagrantc>
dberkholz: i was planning on modularizing the ltsp-client init scripts much like the ltsp-build-client parts ...
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<petre>
on edubuntu, do I modify the grub menu by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
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<vagrantc>
most likely.
20:57
that's what you would typically edit on a debian system, anyways ...
20:57
<petre>
vagrantc: thanks. I'm used to fedora where menu.lst is just a symlink to grub.conf
20:57
but my edubuntu doesn't seem to have a grub.conf
20:58
<vagrantc>
yes, there's some stupid double-comment stuff in debian-based systems' menu.list file that should really be split into a separate configuration file...
20:59
<petre>
okay, I'm off to test my new grub menu
20:59
bbs, I hope ;-)
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<knight>
hi all
22:40
ltsp under Xubuntu
22:40
has the issue of the thin clients been fixed
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<vagrantc>
what version of xubuntu ?
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<vagrantc>
and, what issue?
23:13
<knight>
dapper
23:13
the one with the thin clients turning off the server
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<vagrantc>
turning off the server how ?
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<knight>
when they log o
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off
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the thin clients have the option to turn off the server
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<vagrantc>
like, the user clicks on "shutdown" or something like that?
23:20
that would seem like you need to configure something in xfce (or whatever xubuntu uses) to disable users from being able to shut down the server...
23:20
<knight>
oh ok
23:20
you see
23:20
<vagrantc>
i think something like that was fixed for ubuntu edgy, not sure if xubuntu edgy got the fix...
23:20
<knight>
oh ok
23:20
only for edgy
23:20
though???
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<vagrantc>
well, i don't use ubuntu, so i'm just going on what i've heard. nothing solid.
23:23
<knight>
ohok
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<slipttees>
hi all
23:43* slipttees XDMCP faltal error: Manager Uunwillinh Host Unwilling
23:43
<slipttees>
?
23:44* slipttees using kubuntu+ltsp4.2
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<slipttees>
somebody?
23:44
<knight>
hey
23:45
<slipttees>
woops ?
23:45
:D
23:45
<knight>
you dont have xdmcp runnign
23:45
???
23:45
<slipttees>
what?
23:45
i wont edit /etc/kd3/kdm/kdrmc
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<knight>
What I mean to say iis
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<slipttees>
<xdmcp>
23:46
true
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:)
23:46
<knight>
??
23:46
<slipttees>
knight, firewall block service?
23:46
<knight>
well there you go
23:47
did not even need to find the answer
23:47
<slipttees>
I do not know
23:49
<knight>
oh ok
23:49
you cant edit the file you are telling me right
23:49
can you paste the file on the pastebot
23:49
http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<slipttees>
knight, error load pag
23:52
knight,
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http://pastebot.nd.edu/1780.
23:52
<knight>
yeah I see
23:52
lol
23:53
oh ok
23:54
<slipttees>
???
23:54
<knight>
you tell me that by typing sudo vi /etc/kd3/kdm/kdrmc
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you cant edit the file
23:55
<slipttees>
what?
23:55
cant?
23:55
why?
23:55
edit only xdmcp session!
23:56
<knight>
thats what you did
23:56
<slipttees>
ok ok
23:56
<knight>
then it should be no problem
23:56
if you enabled the xdmcp
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<slipttees>
[Xdmcp]
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# Default is true
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Enable=true
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only edit this!
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<knight>
oh ok
23:57
did you restart the server?
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<slipttees>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/XDMCP-KDM
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reboot PC
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i'll back
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<knight>
oh ok
23:59
cool
23:59
i am here