IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 20 October 2015   (all times are UTC)

00:00
<vagrantc>
oh, glad to hear it's working well
00:00
yeah, LTSP works on Debian 8 just fine :)
00:01
uncmar: man lts.conf, look at the USE_LOCAL_SWAP option
00:01
arguably, debian 8 probably works better out of the box than any other current linux distro :)
00:02
<uncmar>
I remmeber that last time it was a bit of a chore to setup. For most, pretty straight forward. But as per usual, I tend to have my own set of strange needs that throw a wrench in the works, Slowing down the process.
00:03
Good, I'm debian all the way. Have been for a long time now.
00:04
gotta be root for the man lts.conf?
00:05
ugh, getting nothing. Old install and all.
00:07
<vagrantc>
apt-get install ltsp-docs
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00:11
<uncmar>
Remind me, What is NBD? Network Boot Disk?
00:11
or, Network Boot Drive?
00:14
nm, found it. Network Block Device. Again, a sort of remote drive. I think I already have that setup.
00:16
Nice, vagrantc! Thanks.
00:20
That was a very easy change.
00:21* vagrantc waves
00:21
<vagrantc>
good luck!
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10:54
<SYS64738>
hi, I am testing ltsp on debian, the thin client boot ok, but during the boot I see a lot of:
10:54
IP-Config: no response after 3 secs - giving up
10:54
what they means ?
10:54
<work_alkisg>
It tries to get an ip and fails
10:54work_alkisg is now known as alkisg
10:54
<alkisg>
How many nics does your client have? One or two?
10:55
<SYS64738>
it seems only one
10:56
it has the option for the 2nd eth module
10:56
<alkisg>
Get a local shell and run: lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 Ethernet
10:57
And also: ip a
10:57
Put the results to pastebin.com
10:57
!screen_08
10:57
<ltsp>
Error: "screen_08" is not a valid command.
10:57
<alkisg>
!screen_02
10:57
<ltsp>
screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
10:57
<alkisg>
!localxterm
10:57
<ltsp>
localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
10:57
<alkisg>
...one of those methods will give you a shell
11:00
<SYS64738>
alkisg: I still haven't internet connection in the thinclinet, however lspci shows only one ethernet
11:03
alkisg: is it possible that the error means that I have not iptools like ifconfig ?
11:04
<alkisg>
no, I don't think so
11:06
!ipappend
11:06
<ltsp>
ipappend: o temporarily solve DHCP problems in the initramfs, try putting IPAPPEND 3 after the APPEND line in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default. More info: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX#IPAPPEND_flag_val_.5BPXELINUX_only.5D
11:06
<alkisg>
If you do that, does the message go away?
11:06
(temporarily)
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11:09
<SYS64738>
I am installing stuff, I'll try asap
11:10
now I see that there is an ipappend 2
11:12
alkisg: it's the same with ipappend 3
11:23
<alkisg>
remove "quiet" from that file... and then try to get a screenshot (e.g. with a mobile phone) of the problem
11:24
Although if it works, you could just let it be :)
11:38
<SYS64738>
alkisg: same thing!
11:38
I will try to make some other test, for now I can use it
11:39
thank you very much for the help
11:39
<alkisg>
Yes, getting a screenshot doesn't solve the issue, it's just a way to show the others what you see
11:39
:)
11:40* alkisg waves
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11:40
<SYS64738>
ok I'll put the screenshot asap
11:41
thank you again
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16:51
<SYS64738>
!cluster
16:51
<ltsp>
Error: "cluster" is not a valid command.
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18:51
<alkisg>
gbaman_: did you ever have issues with rpi's not booting because the fat partition had the dirty bit set (not closed cleanly)?
18:58
<gbaman_>
alkisg: usually it is happy enough to boot anyway
18:58
And if it is bad, usually fsck will attempt to sort it on boot
18:59
<alkisg>
Hmm sometimes, some sd cards won't boot for me, and then after fsck they boot...
18:59* alkisg wonders if he didn't insert the sd cards properly the first time...
19:00
<gbaman_>
Maybe format it and reflash?
19:00
Or maybe you have a dodgy SD card?
19:00
<alkisg>
It could be.... if you haven't seen that a lot of times, it must be something local, the sdcard or something
19:01
<gbaman_>
Yeah, I have never seen it refuse to boot
19:01
<alkisg>
Cool, thank you
19:01
<gbaman_>
If there is issues, it will always get far enough for fsck to sort it
19:01
So are you still working on getting u-boot working?
19:02
<alkisg>
No, I left that for vagrantc :D
19:02
<gbaman_>
So what you working on now?
19:02
<alkisg>
I'll implement the automatic kernel+initrd updates
19:02
<gbaman_>
Ahh
19:02
<alkisg>
First, I got the greek schools ppa to support arm, and pushed new ltsp versions there
19:03
Then I made ltsp-build-client work for ubuntu chroots
19:03
Now I'll optimize it a bit, e.g. maybe select the new 4.2 raspi2 ubuntu kernel,
19:03
and when that is done, I'll start pushing things upstream, like the kernel updates
19:04
+writing a how to
19:04
In the future, we'll probably internationalize sch-scripts so that ltsp labs have a tool to manage users, manage the ltsp server etc
19:05
<gbaman_>
Now that would be nice
19:05
<alkisg>
and maybe push it to edubuntu by default
19:06
gbaman_: do you know the packages that rpi's require? E.g. from the fo0bar ppa, do users need all of those packages? (although you're not using ubuntu, I'm just asking if you do know the package names...)
19:06
I can understand the kernel and the turbo graphics, but there are some packages there that I don't know if they're necessary
19:06
<gbaman_>
You mean ones that would only be in the Raspbian repos?
19:07
<alkisg>
Yes, and probably preinstalled in raspbian
19:08
<gbaman_>
A majority of the packages Raspbian install are here - https://github.com/PiNet/PiNet/blob/master/pinet#L663
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19:09
<alkisg>
Ah, btw, have you seen any sd cards wear out? Probably if they're using plain raspbian and not ltsp/pinet....
19:09
<gbaman_>
Yeah, but very very rarely
19:09
<alkisg>
I have developed a method to boot sdcards with the ltsp-client package but without a server, in cow mode
19:10
OK, if there's no need for a how to for that, np..
19:10
<gbaman_>
Hmm
19:10
Having some sort of way for read only I am sure could be useful
19:11
Especially given you could use SquashFS to boot a bit faster
19:12
<alkisg>
yes, using squashfs
19:12
init=init-ltsp, but with a "local" parameter
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19:22
<maldridge>
alkisg: I have seen cards burn out regularly on the v1 Pi, I could get about a year on a card before it would die
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