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Channel log from 29 January 2012   (all times are UTC)

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11:22
<map7_>
can anyone help me with the error: 'mounting /dev/nbd0 on /rofs failed: Input/output error' on the pxe machine on boot?
11:23
<alkisg>
distro/version?
11:23
<map7_>
mythbuntu 11.10 64bit, LTSP 5.2.16
11:24
<alkisg>
Hmmm I don't remember if 11.10 has named nbd exports or not... what does this give you? grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
11:24
<map7_>
yeah it's nbd
11:24
It's on port 2000
11:24
<alkisg>
The difference is "port based" vs "named based"
11:24
What's the actual output?
11:25
(copy/paste please...)
11:25
<map7_>
2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
11:25
<alkisg>
OK, and: ls -l /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
11:25
<map7_>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1064415232 2012-01-29 19:55 /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
11:26
<alkisg>
and: grep append /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
11:27
<map7_>
append ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash nbdname=ltsp_i386
11:27
<alkisg>
So your pxelinux.cfg/default is using name-based nbd, while your inetd.conf uses port-based
11:27
Is that an upgrade?
11:28
<map7_>
no I've been trying to get the nbd working so I edited the inetd.conf file myself
11:28
so should there be anything in inetd.conf?
11:28
for nbd
11:28
<alkisg>
Only the nbdswapd line
11:28
For swapping
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11:29
<alkisg>
cat /etc/nbd-server/config
11:29
<map7_>
[generic]
11:29
user = nobody
11:29
group = nogroup
11:29
oldstyle = true
11:29
[ltsp_i386]
11:29
exportname = /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
11:29
readonly = true
11:29
port = 2000
11:29
I changed that as well
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11:30
<map7_>
So should I be using the named nbd setup instead of port?
11:30
<alkisg>
Yes, since your ubuntu version uses that by default
11:30
Unless you have a specific reason to change it
11:30
You can use that config instead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/821115/
11:30
<map7_>
ok i'll use the default
11:30
<alkisg>
Restart nbd and inetd after the changes
11:31
<map7_>
ah that was the default config, i have a backup of that
11:33
done, I'm just rebooting the pxe client now
11:33
ok now I'm getting a different error
11:34
Error: Socket failed: Connection refused [chef]
11:34
<alkisg>
That was the inital error you were getting?
11:34
*initial
11:34
<map7_>
yes
11:34
minus the chef part
11:34
<alkisg>
OK, it's probably a network access problem
11:34
hosts.allow, firewalls etc
11:35
Check that port 10809 is open
11:35
<map7_>
I can get a standard ltsp-client-build working, but not a mythbuntu client
11:35
<alkisg>
sudo netstat -nap | grep :10809
11:35
Is nbd-server listening there?
11:36
<map7_>
yes it is
11:36
<alkisg>
Do you have an /etc/nbd-server/allow file?
11:36
<map7_>
no
11:37
here is the command I use to build my client image: ltsp-build-client --mythbuntu --mythbuntu-user-credentials "mythclient":"mythclient" --copy-package-lists --copy-sourceslist --accept-unsigned-packages --arch i386
11:37
<alkisg>
Do you have a firewall running?
11:37
<map7_>
no
11:38
<alkisg>
If you run `telnet localhost 10809` from your server, what do you get?
11:38
<map7_>
Trying 0.0.42.57...
11:38
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Invalid argument
11:38
<alkisg>
localhost is 0.0.42.57?!
11:38
<map7_>
wrong sorry
11:38
Trying 127.0.0.1...
11:38
Connected to localhost.
11:38
Escape character is '^]'.
11:38
NBDMAGICIHAVEOPT
11:39
<alkisg>
OK, and if you try from another pc, telnet server-ip 10809 ?
11:39
<map7_>
Trying 10.1.1.105...
11:39
Connected to 10.1.1.105.
11:39
Escape character is '^]'.
11:39
now it just hangs there
11:40
<alkisg>
Do you have any of those files? /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny ?
11:40
<map7_>
no
11:40
i mean yes both
11:40
<alkisg>
What are their contents?
11:40
Maybe you're blocking your subnet...
11:41
<map7_>
allow has one line: nbdrootd: ALL: keepalive
11:41
<alkisg>
Or, try to temporarily remove both of them
11:41
<map7_>
deny has everything remarked out
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11:42
<alkisg>
Something is blocking the access to your nbd-server
11:42
<map7_>
ok, just rebooting the pxe-machine now
11:42
still getting the same error
11:42
<alkisg>
Yes if everything was commented out it wasn't that
11:43
It's something else... maybe even on your switch, if it's managed, etc
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11:43
<map7_>
if I build a standard ltsp client it does work
11:44
<alkisg>
Hmm maybe the client then tries to connect to another port
11:45
<map7_>
using 'sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386' allows my PXE machine to boot
11:45
<alkisg>
Maybe mythbuntu inserts a broken initramfs script
11:45
Do you get an initramfs prompt in the client?
11:45
initrams>
11:45
<map7_>
i'm dropped into a busybox terminal
11:45
yeah it says (initramfs)
11:46
<alkisg>
OK let me search the named-based nbd-client command line..
11:46
<map7_>
It has to be something to do with the mythbuntu. I have a working server in the house with PXE boot working (same setup) I don't know how I got it to work though
11:47
<alkisg>
I haven't heard any developer supporting mythbuntu recently though
11:47
I wouldn't wonder if it's broken
11:47
<map7_>
Well I've got it working twice over the last four days I've been working on it, but I don't know what I did to get it working
11:48
so I know it's possible but I want to know what I did to fix it, so I can document it and do it again
11:48
I've got a working system, so I've been trying to cheat off it
11:48
so if we need to check the working system I can do that
11:49
<alkisg>
nbd-client server-ip /dev/nbd0 -N ltsp_i386
11:49
Replace server-ip
11:49
What does this tell you?
11:50
<map7_>
Error: Cannot open NBD: Permission denied
11:50
Please ensure the 'nbd' module is loaded.
11:50
Exiting.
11:50
But I have done a 'modprobe nbd'
11:50
on the server
11:50
<alkisg>
No, on the client
11:51
<map7_>
I did the nbd-client command on the client
11:51
<alkisg>
Try modprobe nbd on the client before issuing the command
11:51
<map7_>
I just typed the command on the pxe-client and got 'Negotiation'
11:52
<alkisg>
So mythbuntu has a broken initramfs script
11:52
Try putting the other, working initramfs, to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/initrd
11:52
Wait
11:52
<map7_>
ok
11:52
<alkisg>
Maybe I misunderstood something
11:53
Did you have to run modprobe on the client, to get nbd-client negotiating?
11:53
<map7_>
first time I ran that nbd-client command it was on my notebook (ie: not the pxe-client)
11:53
<alkisg>
Or you were trying those on the server, and that's why they failed?
11:53
<map7_>
I did not have to run modprobe on the pxe-client to get to negotiation
11:54
<alkisg>
I see. OK, second try, put break=mount in pxelinux.cfg/default, and reboot client
11:54
(as a kernel parameter)
11:55
The client will give you an initramfs prompt again. Wait 5 seconds and then press ctrl+d
11:55
What happens then?
11:56
<map7_>
ok, just waiting for the pxe machine to time out and get to the prompt
11:56
<alkisg>
It shouldn't need to timeout...
11:57
break=mount drops you to the prompt immediately
11:57
<map7_>
oh yeah
11:57
nice
11:57
ok when I hit Ctrl + d now it repeats the socket failed error
11:58
I have access to the working mythbuntu server which we could cheat off
11:58
<alkisg>
Wait wait wait
11:58
You didn't build the chroot in the same server?
11:59
<map7_>
what do you mean?
11:59
<alkisg>
I want to see if the contents of the initramfs are the same as in ubuntu 11.10
11:59
And not some older version
11:59
If you build the chroot in a mythbuntu 10.04 server, and then moved it to a 11.10 server, it would cause problems
11:59
Anyway let's see the actual contents:
12:00
<map7_>
this is a fresh mythbuntu 11.10 install
12:00
and a fresh chroot image built on that machine today
12:00
<alkisg>
mkdir /tmp/i
12:00
cd /tmp/i
12:00
zcat /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/initrd.img | cpio -i
12:00
And then put scripts/ltsp_nbd to pastebin
12:01
So, your server has a mythbuntu OS, and a mythbuntu chroot. No other servers or chroots involved. Correct?
12:01
You didn't move the image anywhere else...
12:01
(or the kernels...)
12:02
<map7_>
correct
12:03
<alkisg>
OK, put ltsp_nbd to pastebin...
12:03
Ah, and another though
12:03
t
12:03
<map7_>
where is ltsp_nbd located
12:03
<alkisg>
Maybe your dhcp is wrong and is pointing you to the wrong server
12:03
Go to the initramfs prompt again
12:03
And run: cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf
12:03
Check ROOTSERVER there
12:03
Is that your server IP?
12:04
<map7_>
yes it is the correct server
12:04
10.1.1.105
12:04
<alkisg>
OK follow the commands I said above, to paste ltsp_nbd
12:04
The mkdir and all the rest
12:04
On the server
12:05
<map7_>
this ltsp_nbd: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/ltsp_nbd
12:05
<alkisg>
No, get it as I said above
12:05
With mkdir, cd, zcat. You'll find it at /tmp/i/scripts/ltsp_nbd then
12:05
<map7_>
yep see it now
12:06
<alkisg>
!pastebin
12:06
<ltsp>
alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
12:06
<map7_>
http://pastie.org/3275516
12:08
<alkisg>
If I didn't misunderstand you at any point, then what you're saying is very strange
12:09
At the paste you posted, at line 105, the client is supposed to run the nbd-client command I told you to do manually
12:09
And you're saying that it fails from a script, but it succeeds manually
12:09
I can't believe that happens, so we're missing something else
12:10
OK, quick way around it, do you have a working initrd from your other non-mythbuntu try?
12:10
Does it have the same kernel there?
12:11
<map7_>
yes I just did a uname -a in both server & chroot and both are on 3.0.0-12
12:11
<alkisg>
(01:58:21 μμ) map7_: I have access to the working mythbuntu server which we could cheat off ==> what do you mean by that?
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12:12
<alkisg>
(01:46:43 μμ) map7_: It has to be something to do with the mythbuntu. I have a working server in the house with PXE boot working (same setup) I don't know how I got it to work though
12:13
==> That's what I meant, to try to get the initrd from the working server
12:13
And put it in /var/lib/tftpboot...
12:13
<map7_>
ah ok
12:13
yes I have a separate server which is working
12:13
<alkisg>
OK, copy the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/initrd.img* as long as it's the same kernel version
12:14
<map7_>
it's a different kernel
12:14
3.0.0-15
12:15
<alkisg>
Hmmm try it anyway, it may hang later on though
12:16
<map7_>
ok
12:17
should i reboot the pxe client now
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12:17
<alkisg>
Yes
12:17
(check that the initrd.img symlink is pointing to your new kernel, ok?)
12:17
<map7_>
didn't work
12:18
<alkisg>
ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/
12:18
<map7_>
yes the symlink is linking correctly
12:18
to initrd.img
12:18
<alkisg>
From initrd.img to your new kernel
12:18
Not "to" initrd.img
12:19
*to your new initramfs, sorry
12:19
<map7_>
initrd.img -> initrd.img-3.0.0-15-generic
12:19
<alkisg>
Yeah
12:19
And still if you run that from the initramfs prompt, it works? nbd-client server-ip /dev/nbd0 -N ltsp_i386
12:21
<map7_>
if I run that on the pxe-client I get
12:21
Negotiation:
12:21
and it just sits there, same as before
12:21
is that what is suppose to happen?
12:21
<alkisg>
No
12:22
After that you should be seeing "block size =xxx, image size =xxx" etc
12:22
I.e. that the nbd disk was mounted
12:22
I can understand it sitting there, since you said that with telnet it hanged too
12:22
But I can't understand why it says connection refused, if it tries the same server
12:24
Debugging ltsp_nbd would come next, but it's quite difficult to do it over IRC
12:24
<map7_>
it's weird that I've been able to get this working twice, once with using this exact server
12:24
and the same client
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12:25
<alkisg>
A dhcp problem would explain that, but you're saying that ROOTSERVER is correct, so I don't know
12:25
<map7_>
If I build a standard thin client it will work
12:25
so all the linkages must be correct, and it must have something to do with the mythbuntu flags
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12:25
<alkisg>
Btw why mythbuntu instead of a fat client with anything you want in it?
12:26
!fatclients
12:26
<ltsp>
alkisg: fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
12:26
<alkisg>
The fat client plugin is more supported...
12:26
<map7_>
well I tried a fat client and it wouldn't build because of network-manager
12:26
so I didn't give it enough time
12:26
is that problem a quick fix
12:27
<alkisg>
There's a bug report about it, it broke in 11.10, we fixed it later, and there's a patch in the bug report about it
12:27
You just need to modify a line in your server's ltsp plugins
12:28
<map7_>
ok maybe I could try that and see if that boots
12:28
if that booted all I would need to do is install mythfrontend and I'll be where I want to be basically
12:28
<alkisg>
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/1944
12:29
That's the fix you need, to prevent ltsp from blacklisting network manager etc
12:29
(or just try 12.04, it's fixed there)
12:32
<map7_>
ok to apply that patch I would need to download the ltsp package, apply patch and compile, then make my fat client image?
12:33
<alkisg>
No
12:34
You'd need to modify the fat clients plugin in your server, /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/030-fat-client
12:34
Then build the client,
12:34
Then modify ltsp_nbd in the chroot, and call update-initramfs -u in the chroot,
12:34
and ltsp-update-kernels outside the chroot
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12:42* map7_ building fat-client
12:44
<map7_>
alkisg, thanks for your help so far, it's been really hard to pin point exactly what is causing this problem
12:45
and sometimes it starts working
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12:45
<map7_>
twice in fact
12:45
<alkisg>
We'd need to look at the mythbuntu plugin too, and I don't want that as I never use it :)
12:45
I don't know who maintains it actually
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12:46
<map7_>
I know it was taken out of the mythbuntu control center in mythbuntu 904
12:46
and it hasn't been back in there since
12:47
but I've been using the command line switch in mythbuntu 10.04 fine for the last year and a half
12:47
I've just decided to upgrade to 11.10 for a few extra features and I've hit this problem
12:49
<alkisg>
Good luck with the rest, bye for now
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12:50
<map7_>
alkisg, thanks
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<alkisg>
At many places we're trying to discover the ssh pid, the ltsp client hostname, ip address, the client $DISPLAY etc
19:16
And we go through hoops to get them
19:16
Wouldn't it be easier instead of just "echo LTSPROCKS; /bin/sh -", to do something like:
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"echo LTSPROCKS; echo ...a bunch of useful vars > ~/.ltsp-connection-$IP; exec /bin/sh -" ?
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Then we'd just look at the user's home dir and have everything ready...
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<laurei>
:( updated the software in the chroot image now audio on all fat clients isn't working, no hardware device
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<Hyperbyte>
laurei, what exactly did you update in the chroot image?
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<laurei>
apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
20:48
sounds like just an 11.10 problem, so I'm going to try http://dharmendralinuxdiary.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-sound-problem.html. not sure how it's going to affect a fat client though as my understanding is still lacking.
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<Hyperbyte>
laurei, why did you do that in your chroot?
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<asmok>
i got problems with Debian (6.0.3 i386) and nVidia Vanta, old IBM (nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15) - should it work with xsever = nv, I got black screen, blinking cursor
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