IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 10 October 2013   (all times are UTC)

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06:49
<alkisg>
Has anyone experienced problems with logging in on fat clients recently? (X reset...)
06:50
The problem is that the user doesn't have access to LDM's xauthority, and this is easily fixable, what I wonder about is why previously he had access to that file, when there's no such code in ltsp...
06:50
Maybe some X update broke it...
06:50
That would also affect localapps
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13:34
<jammcq>
good morning friends
13:35
<alkisg>
Hi jammcq, did you see the question about BTS sponsorship yesterday?
13:35
<jammcq>
no, missed it
13:35
<alkisg>
tfdl was looking to donate some money to ltsp,
13:35
<jammcq>
hmmm, that would be nice
13:35
<alkisg>
and we suggested to him to sponsor something of the bts,
13:35
but there's no contact info in the bts page
13:35
<jammcq>
the wiki page has a list of things that need sponsorship
13:36
hmm
13:36
I should fix that
13:36
<alkisg>
http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2013-10-09
13:36
http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2013-10-09
13:36
sorry
13:36
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/ByTheSea_2013#Sponsorship
13:36
<bennabiy>
who is maintaining the sourceforge wiki?
13:37
<alkisg>
knipwim_ and Hyperbyte did much of the initial work, but everyone can edit it
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13:38
<jammcq>
yes, I'll be focusing on it during BTS. I want to get the 'Search' function back on the screen
13:39
and then start getting lots more content up
13:39
just finding the BTS-2013 page is an exercize in frustration
13:39* alkisg hopes this year's bts will jumpstart ltsp 6... :)
13:40
<jammcq>
yep
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13:54
<bennabiy>
BTS up in maine?
13:56
<jammcq>
yep
14:02
<bennabiy>
One thing that needs to be addressed is documenting all the not so documented things
14:03
There have been major changes since the last upstream documentation, and lots of config files which have little or no documentation other than alkisg said... or vagra... you get the picture :)
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14:19
<pscheie>
alkisg, are you coming to BTS this year?
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14:32
<linsUFF>
Hello guys!
14:33
anyone here knows how to do to the LTSP use the local resources when I work with fat client?
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14:37
<||cw>
linsUFF: depends on the resource?
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15:01
<jammcq>
pscheie: looks like eHarrison is coming
15:04
<pscheie>
jammcq, cool!
15:05
I haven't seen him for a few years.
15:05
I think the last time was in Indianapolis for an edu conference.
15:13
<jammcq>
also, Ragnar just confirmed. He'll be joining us !
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15:23
<jammcq>
pscheie: Ragnar arrives at BGR about 45 minutes after you
15:23
he said he'd rent a car and would be happy to have a passenger
15:23* vagrantc waves
15:23
<jammcq>
and he leaves at 11am, so if you don't mind sitting at BGR 2 hours before your flight, I think we've got you covered for transportation
15:23
<pscheie>
jammcq, hmm, I already have a car rented.
15:24
<jammcq>
pscheie: well... then you could wait there for him and give him a ride?
15:24
<pscheie>
Sure.
15:24
<jammcq>
i'm just thinking there's no sense in 2 cars driving from BGR to SWHarbor
15:24
<pscheie>
Yes, tell him he can ride with me.
15:24
<jammcq>
will do
15:24
45 minutes should give you plenty of time to pick up the car and be waiting at the front door
15:24
<pscheie>
I got my car as part of my plane ticket, a package, shaved about $40 off the deal
15:24
<jammcq>
vagrantc: hidy how
15:24
cool
15:24
<pscheie>
hi vagrantc
15:25
<jammcq>
vagrantc: eHarrison is coming :)
15:25
<vagrantc>
sounds like it's rounding out well
15:25
<jammcq>
yepper.
15:25
<vagrantc>
~bts
15:25
<jammcq>
vagrantc: I still need your flight details
15:25
<vagrantc>
!bts
15:25
<ltsp>
bts: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/ByTheSea_2012
15:26
<vagrantc>
jammcq: doh.
15:26
<jammcq>
hmm
15:26
<pscheie>
I think I'll be a bit late for the 2012 bts.
15:26* vagrantc promises to get them in soonish
15:26
<jammcq>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/ByTheSea_2013
15:26
<vagrantc>
ltsp: forget bts
15:27
ltsp: learn bts as http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/ByTheSea_2013
15:27
hopefully it gets those in the right order
15:30
if it ever does
15:30
ltsp: hello!
15:30
!forget bts
15:30
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
15:30
<vagrantc>
!learn bts as http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/ByTheSea_2013
15:30
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
15:31
<vagrantc>
i guess this bot doesn't like being addressed directly aanymore
15:35
<jammcq>
ah, there ya go
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17:39
<willianmazzardo>
hi all ... anyone here can say to me if epoptes only work with ltsp environment ?
17:40
<Phantomas>
willianmazzardo: Hello, no epoptes can work with standalone clients too
17:40
<willianmazzardo>
Phantomas, nice ;)
17:40
thanks
17:51
<bennabiy>
phantomas: I am still having issues getting my mint clients to log out, or shut down from server through epoptes
17:57
<Phantomas>
bennabiy: There is no version of epoptes released with the latest patch which fixes this problem.
17:58
..yet
17:59
bennabiy: If you want it right now you may want to replace /usr/share/epoptes-client/endsession with that one http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~epoptes/epoptes/trunk/view/head:/epoptes-client/endsession
17:59
<bennabiy>
Can I patch my local install?
18:00
ahh
18:00
great
18:00
what port does epoptes use for administration?
18:00
by default
18:00
<Phantomas>
you will need to replace it wherever epoptes-client is installed though.
18:01
What do you mean "for administration"?
18:01
<bennabiy>
I mean to be able to use it over a firewalled network, what port does epoptes communicate with epoptes client
18:02
<Phantomas>
epoptesd uses 789 for communication with epoptes-client(s)
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18:04
<Phantomas>
you can change it at /etc/default/epoptes for the daemon and /etc/default/epoptes-client for the epoptes-clients
18:06
<bennabiy>
thank you
18:10
<Phantomas>
bennabiy: I've tested it before commiting, but please let me know if logout works after you apply the patch
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20:55
<eurowerke>
anyone around?
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20:56
<eurowerke>
have some questions about substituting a Raspberry Pi as a replacement WYSE terminal and disabling all other functions
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20:57
<vagrantc>
!ask
20:57
<ltsp>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
20:57
<vagrantc>
eurowerke: ^^
20:58
!raspberrypi
20:58
<ltsp>
Error: "raspberrypi" is not a valid command.
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20:59
<vagrantc>
!learn raspberrypi as LTSP with raspberry pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/
20:59
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
21:03
<vagrantc>
!learn raspberrypi as To use a similar environment to LTSP on the raspberry pi http://berryterminal.com/
21:03
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
21:03
<vagrantc>
!raspberrypi
21:03
<ltsp>
raspberrypi: (#1) LTSP with raspberry pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/, or (#2) To use a similar environment to LTSP on the raspberry pi http://berryterminal.com/
21:05
<eurowerke>
I think I already mentioned my question vagrantc
21:05
I just don't know where to start
21:06
<vagrantc>
eurowerke: you might want to be more specific with your question... the way you said it sounded like you had questions you had yet to ask
21:06
<eurowerke>
I assume something with autorespawn of the terminal but I'm not sure if it would be easier/more useful in X or directly through the console
21:06
I would be researching this a bit more but I was just given this and it needs to be done by tomorrow :-O
21:07
so needed some help!
21:07
I want to know how to setup my terminals to autorespawn and automatically telnet to the term server
21:07
terminals being RaspberryPi(es) heh
21:09
<vagrantc>
using LTSP, or some other thing?
21:09
with LTSP, you'd just have to set SCREEN_07=telnet
21:10
i think, anyways
21:10
might need some other settings if your LTSP server isn't the same as your telnet server
21:10
in lts.conf, that is
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<eurowerke>
Hrm...
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22:55
<lns>
vagrantc, hi =) I'm wondering how well the Pi's perform in LTSP (without local apps, of course I would assume that would be a bit too much for them to handle)
22:56
<vagrantc>
lns: pretty slow last i tried
22:57
lns: the model i tested on only had 256MB of ram ... the 512MB model might work a little better ... but still probably slow.
22:57
i'd highly recommend some other board like cubieboard or beagleboneblack or wandboard ... just about anything other than the raspberry pi
22:58
<lns>
That's what I figured
22:58
Hmm, those sound interesting =) /me googles
22:58
<vagrantc>
maybe if you got the accelerated graphics working on the pi, it would make up for it
22:59
those other boards are only a little more expensive, but can run straight debian or ubuntu (if you can get aa working kernel)
22:59
<lns>
oh, is that not functional right now? yeah I bet that would help a lot
23:00
aww, cubieboard doesn't have gigabit ethernet =( still not a big deal i guess, seems like very nice specs for something like that, compares well to other thin clients
23:00
<vagrantc>
raspberry pi either requires running debian's armel port, which doesn't take advatage of some of the floating point processing, or run raspbian (a rebuild of debian, lags behind debian a bit in packages) or some other OS
23:02
<lns>
debian is my only choice really at this point for stuff like this =) It's really never let me down like any other (besides some pulseaudio craziness, which I will attribute to my own mistakes most likely)
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23:07
<vagrantc>
raspberry pi being ARMv6 makes it a very frustrating choice... all modern distros require ARMv7
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<vagrantc>
(other than debian's armel port, which supports ARMv5+ (maybe v4?))
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<lns>
I've been using debian's armel port for an ARMv5 system for quite a while with a lot of success (http://www.ionics-ems.com/plugtop/stratus.html), though not ltsp. I remember having some issues compiling with standard utils but other than that its rock solid
23:12
<vagrantc>
yeah, it's solid, it just doesn't take advantage of modern hardware
23:16
<jammcq>
eharrison is confirmed! he's got his plane ticket
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