IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 7 November 2013   (all times are UTC)

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<bennabiy>
tfdl: do you have it set to use a time server?
01:42
<tfdl>
bennabiy: i do not know that, can you show briefly how? Thanks!
01:44
I will give it a try. Thanks!
01:49
<bennabiy>
tfdl: I cannot remember the specifics, but you could start by looking it up.
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02:38
<tfdl>
thanks bennabiy, i will find in google.
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03:45
<bennabiy>
vagrantc and alkisg: I have a test .deb of a ldm theme.
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05:10
<urly>
Hi all. I'm still trying to solve my sound issue. I modified the chroot /etc/pulse/daemon.conf flat-volume=no (like in ubuntu 10.04) and now I can change volume on a playing sound within the app playing the sound (vlc, flash, totem).
05:10
(So I set flat-volume to no)
05:13
but I still have issues : sound is not started at fresh log, and if I change the volume with the desktop icon, sound breaks (pa_stream_writable_size() failed : connection terminated) until I manually restart it with the ltsp-init-common start_sound function.
05:16
I've also noticed something : if I make my chroot console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) beep once logged (here as root) before having my LDM (Ctrl+Alt+F7) logged as a user, well sound is started for the user.
05:22
So I keep thinking about studying pulseaudio, but help still be appreciated (as they even were), thanks.
05:24
s/(as they even were)/(as suggestions and advices even were)/
05:36
Hi. I have a problem with LTSP. User session start without the global sound icon (except if the thin client console has just beeped). When I run any sound app, I get a "pa_stream_writable_size() failed : connection terminated". So after restarting manually pulseaudio in system mode (as usually, when you use LTSP) on the thin client, I can play sound.
05:40
I partially fixed the problem by setting flat-volume to no in the daemon.conf system of the client, which let me set the volume within the sound app that plays, but I can't set global volume, and I still don't have a good session start for my users.
05:41
How to know if the problem is software or hardware (VIA1612A, ok with ubuntu 10.04) ?
05:41
And how to know if the problem is LTSP or pulseaudio ?
05:42
(sorry I wanted to write on #pulseaudio, (
06:07
<work_alkisg>
Does it work with a live ubuntu 12.04?
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06:08
<alkisg>
urly: ^
06:09
<urly>
hi alkisg
06:10
Well I can't start live ubuntu 12.04 on my neoware ca10, but with my hp t5510 I can
06:10
<alkisg>
Why, it doesn't have a boot from usb option?
06:10
And, both of them have the sound issue?
06:11
<urly>
both yes, and same via1612a
06:11
<alkisg>
And does sound work fine with the hp t5510?
06:11
And, do any other clients work fine wrt sound?
06:12
<urly>
live usb yes for the t5510, sound ok with my laptop as a thin client
06:13
and live USB sound works with t5510, too
06:15
<alkisg>
And the neoware client only has 128 ram?
06:16
<urly>
VIA1612A is the chip of my VIA 8235 sound card on my neowares ca10
06:17
no some of them have 512+256
06:17
<alkisg>
Hmm, so it's not a RAM issue, it would make sense for pulse to die with 128 ram with the default ltsp setup...
06:17
So why not try booting from usb with some of the ones with 512 ram?
06:19
<urly>
I've ever tried to usb boot with the ca10 but I didn't manage
06:20
but I have one running LTSP 10.04 right now
06:20
as a client
06:20
<alkisg>
You can't debug 12.04 problems using 10.04 though...
06:21
<urly>
ha
06:21
<alkisg>
You can use pxelinux and tell it to boot from usb
06:21
Ah, here's another method:
06:21
!livecd-netboot
06:21
<ltsp`>
Error: "livecd-netboot" is not a valid command.
06:22
<alkisg>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot ==> ONLY the automation script paragraph there
06:22
<urly>
ok, I've never, but I can try. How ? Or better : what do I do after
06:22
ok
06:23
<alkisg>
Well, if sound works with 12.04 live booted, keep bugging #ltsp or #pulseaudio,
06:23
*sorry, if it doesn't
06:23
meh
06:23
too early in the morning, if sound works, then yeah bug us or #pulse,
06:23
while if it doesn't work, it's not an ltsp or pulse issue, it's a kernel etc issue, so take it to #ubuntu
06:24
<elias_a>
alkisg: Were teachers also on strike yesterday in Greece?
06:24
<alkisg>
elias_a: morning! some of them, yeah...
06:24
<elias_a>
alkisg: Morning. The strike was in Finnish national tv news. That's my reason for asking.
06:25
<alkisg>
Wow, I didn't know we went so public...
06:25
<urly>
alkisg : I've got the issue with 12.04 and debian 7
06:25
<elias_a>
alkisg: I really do hope Greece gets financial things in order and stays in EU.
06:25
<alkisg>
The distro doesn't matter
06:26
<urly>
ok
06:26
<alkisg>
elias_a: I don't think any country can leave the EU without the EU falling apart...
06:27
It's usually not a local issue, the economy is driven by global politics
06:28
<elias_a>
alkisg: I don't think so as EU is after all based on economy more than anything else. Small countries have little importance...
06:29
But of course if one country is being split off, the next one is easier and that's where the slippery slope begins.
06:29
<alkisg>
There was some essay about it from some global financial organization, I don't remember the link but it's not my own thoughts about it
06:30
I think the idea is to make the public section smaller, to rip off nation treasures etc
06:30
<elias_a>
Ok. I'd like to read it.
06:30
<alkisg>
I don't think they want to completely destroy any country's economy, they'll gain less by doing that
06:31
<elias_a>
I think Greece does not have any fundamental problem when it comes to productivity.
06:31
<alkisg>
It's not like suddenly greeks stopped working and the problem started... it's a manufactured problem
06:32
<elias_a>
Seen from finnish perspective your only problem is the tradition of doing some things past the system.
06:33
I have no personal experience but my impression is that the greeks are not as happy tax payers as people in Finland for example.
06:33
Of course there are people in Finland, too, who avoid taxes.
06:34
But that is not definately seen to be a virtue :D
06:34
<urly>
alkisg : oh I'm thinking my neoware have no pae flag, I guess I'll have a problem with 12.04. I maybe should do the live netboot with debian or no ?
06:34
<alkisg>
A recent study said that in an ideal system, if greece was able to collect all the pending taxes, they'd get about 5 billion, which is only a tiny fraction of the debt
06:35
So while that is a problem (and was in the past with no crisis anywhere), it's not the main cause
06:35
<elias_a>
alkisg: Ok. That is good to know.
06:36
alkisg: As I have adopted some marxist economical thinking I can imagine how this situation has been generated.
06:37
<alkisg>
I hate the current economy system, it's too unstable and easy to get manipulated
06:38
Money don't correspond to actual work, value, treasure anymore, only stocks matter
06:38
And I think there are groups that actually planned it that way...
06:39
(no conspiracy theories though :))
06:40
<elias_a>
alkisg: There does not have to be any conspiration theory because there are document leaks that prove it.
06:40
Just a moment....
06:40
<alkisg>
urly: 12.04 does have a non-pae kernel, use the 12.04.0 cd, the original one, not 12.04.3
06:41
Use the ubuntu cd, not the debian one, it'll be harder for you to netboot debian live
06:42
<urly>
all right )
06:43
<alkisg>
urly: ah, moment, I think i remembered wrong,
06:43
I think even the 12.04.0 cd comes with the pae kernel, and the non-pae is only an option after the installation...
06:44
urly: so it might be easier to try the client as a fat client, which handles pulseaudio differently
06:44
!ltsp-pnp
06:44
<ltsp`>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
06:44
<alkisg>
You could e.g. test with that ^ and with a non-pae kernel in a VM ltsp server
06:45
Or maybe lubuntu 12.04 sihped with non-pae, google it
06:46
So you could use livecd-netboot with lubuntu
06:47
Yup, so use that ^, lubuntu 12.04 + livecd netboot
06:48
<urly>
this one :http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/ mini.iso ?
06:50
<alkisg>
no, lubuntu-i386-12.04.iso
06:51
<urly>
ok
06:51
<elias_a>
alkisg: Is this like something you had in your mind? http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo
06:52
<alkisg>
Heh, the greek schools squid proxy doesn't allow that page
06:52* alkisg has to get back to work, bbl... :)
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08:36
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: did you know that English speakers already know Greek? http://alkisg.mysch.gr/temp/english.htm :)
08:39
<muppis>
alkisg, can I distribute that address?
08:39
<alkisg>
muppis: it's in my temp folder, to be deleted in e.g. a few months, but I have no problem otherwise
08:39
<muppis>
Ok. :)
08:48
<elias_a>
alkisg: Do you wish to get a pdf of that article via email?
09:00
<alkisg>
elias_a: nah - i'd like the original link (I got it via mail) but too much work, no time to search right now :)
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09:10
<alkisg>
navgou: τι λένε οι clients;
09:10
<navgou>
alkisg: μαυρες οθόνες τα fat
09:10
<alkisg>
Φτου
09:10
ΟΚ πάμε για αποσφαλμάτωση
09:11
Απομακρυσμένη βοήθεια στο alkisg.dyndns.org
09:11
<navgou>
ok
09:12
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, if someone would send me that text saying it's in English my reply would be "Looks like Greek to me."
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<roces4>
hej
10:02
hey alkisg can you help me?
10:02
<alkisg>
Hi, I don't know if I can, ask! :)
10:02
!ask
10:02
<ltsp`>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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<alkisg>
roces4: ?
10:06
<roces4>
yes
10:06
:)
10:06
a have ltsp
10:06
serwer
10:07
and all client booting to ubuntu serwer not to windows serwer terminal i don't know why, they don;t see configuration in lts.conf
10:07
http://pastebin.com/WteFcaz2
10:08
this is this configuration file
10:09
<alkisg>
The key=value on top is wrong, remove it
10:10
Then reboot clients
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<sd34>
hello, I've been trying my way with ltsp standalone and followed the wikis
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<roces4>
key=value? remove
10:20
maybe client havent aplication rdesktop?
10:21
<sd34>
my laptop with PXE 2.0 built-in won't receive any image file name from the server, my router has IP 192.168.1.1. Is this wrong? I couldn't understand the wikis when it says "Configure your spare interface for the thin clients to have the IP 192.168.0.1 (and make sure it is up and running). "
10:21
Is that to say the server?
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<roces4>
who can help me?
10:50
<sd34>
roces4 I'm not very goot at LTSP
10:51
I'm looking for help myself but just write your issue down
10:52
<roces4>
my all client booting to ubuntu serwer not to windows serwer terminal
10:52
whu
10:52
why
10:52
?
10:52
<sd34>
explain a little further
10:55
gtg sorry, others will hopefully assist you
10:55
<roces4>
http://pastebin.com/WteFcaz2
10:55
this is my file configuration
10:55
lts
10:55
but the client dont'see this file
10:56
<sd34>
good luck
10:56
bye
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<Hyperbyte>
roces4, few things. Remove line 1, the "key=value" thing. Also remove the unneeded empty lines (3, 4, 15, 16)
11:18
Next, remove all whitespaces around the '=' characters. So replace 'DNS_SERVER = 172.16.1.230' with 'DNS_SERVER=172.16.1.230', for example
11:19
Then, if you're not using Linux thin/fat clients and just rdesktop, remove lines 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14
11:19
Lastly, change SCREEN_01 to SCREEN_06 and SCREEN_02 to SCREEN_07
11:20
Then reboot clients and specify exactly what happens.
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<roces4>
who can help me
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<roces4>
in ltsp how shutdown all clients?
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<Hyperbyte>
roces4, did you see my earlier messages?
13:18
http://irclogs.ltsp.org/ See there, at 11:16
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<bennabiy>
alkisg: I have my source, I have a .deb for ldm-mint-theme. What do I do now? :)
13:56
alkisg: your english article has some misspellings
13:57
<alkisg>
It's not mine, I got it in a mail
13:57
<bennabiy>
ahh
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<bennabiy>
!bot
14:38
<ltsp`>
I do not know about 'bot', but I do know about these similar topics: 'supybot', 'pastebot'
14:40
<bennabiy>
alkisg: seems clem is going to host my ldm theme for mint on his servers
14:41
I am also going to submit it for debian inclusion
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<bennabiy>
ok, so as of today, there is a new package on the mint repository for ldm-mint-theme :)
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<alumno___>
hola quisiera preguntarte como enviar archivos por Epoptes
14:56
<sbalneav>
Morning all
14:59
<jammcq>
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:59
<bennabiy>
sbalneav: welcome!
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<BeVeR>
hello :)
15:02
<alumno___>
hello I want to ask how to send and receive files with Epoptes
15:04
<BeVeR>
I am really new to ltsp, can anyone tell me how to delete the client I set up so I can start from scratch ? :)
15:08
<bennabiy>
Does anyone know a good way to squish the filesize down on pngs?
15:09
Also, what is the expected resolution for LDM?
15:09
like, how large should my bg.png be?
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<ogra_>
bennabiy, pngcrush
15:19
<bennabiy>
I used it. It helped. then I went to tinypng online and it dropped it to 1/4 again
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<bennabiy>
10:52:44 AM - bennabiy: http://twelvetribes.org/dropbox/mint-higher.png or http://twelvetribes.org/dropbox/mint-morecentered.png
15:53
10:52:47 AM - bennabiy: which looks better?
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<bennabiy>
Is it possible to use ltsp-pnp and regular ltsp at the same time?
16:29
!ltsp-pnp
16:29
<ltsp`>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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16:51
<yopla>
hello, i'd like ton know if there is a way to force LTSP server to connect to with ldm
16:56
<other_other_joe>
Can you rephrase your question please?
16:59
<yopla>
sorry
16:59
which server to connect to
17:00
but I think it is ssh related problem
17:01
I try to connect an debian ltsp thin client to ubunt ltsp server
17:01
via ldm
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17:03
<yopla>
if i understant i have to ltsp-update-sshkey on ubuntu server then update keys on debian ltsp chroot
17:05
<cliebow>
debian still doing nfs mount compared to ubuntu
17:06
<yopla>
yes that's true
17:06
but i wanted to test new italc
17:06
as it is included in whaeezy-backports
17:07
wheezy
17:08
but first, i'd like to get ldm runing on my original ltsp server
17:09
(the ubunt one)
17:11
I think i need to push the ubuntu ssh keys on the debian one tight ?
17:18
<bennabiy>
What is the best way to specify a fat client image for just one computer? would I do it at the DHCP level?
17:18* bennabiy has never touched fat clients before...
17:19
<yopla>
I think so as the ltsp chroot is different
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<yopla>
Finaly, the solution was : 1)ubuntu = ltsp-update-sshkeys --export 2)debian = paste public keys in /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.ubuntu 3)debian = ltsp-update-sshkeys
17:40
Now my Debian thin client is connecting to my ubuntu ltsp server.
17:41
<cerettala>
Question for y'all, I am just playing around with this and setting it up for my first time. I have attempted to RTFM this problem, but am not sure where this is misconfigured. I am trying to make a few 64bit thin cilents work, but whenever they try to boot, they attempt to mount /opt/ltsp/i386 (which doesn't exist).
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18:15
<alkisg>
cerettala: what's the exact message?
18:15
bennabiy: the lower picture seems better, but maybe it needs to be just a bit higher
18:15
<cerettala>
alexqwesa: Nov 7 12:06:09 ltsp rpc.mountd[2222]: can't stat exported dir /opt/ltsp/i386: No such file or directory
18:15
<alkisg>
bennabiy: And, yes it's possible to use ltsp-pnp and plain ltsp, it's the same code
18:16
<cerettala>
the directory it should be mounting is /opt/ltsp/amd64
18:16
<alkisg>
cerettala: distro/version?
18:16
<cerettala>
Debian wheezy
18:16
<alkisg>
What's your dhcpd.conf like?
18:16
!pastebin
18:16
<ltsp`>
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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18:17
<cerettala>
http://pastebin.com/ysB9Ckt5
18:17
derp
18:18
lol
18:18
Guess I found the problem
18:18
<alkisg>
:)
18:18
<cerettala>
Rubbery ducky debugging is the best....
18:23
Sure enough, appears to be running like a charm now
18:23
Thanks for the assist
18:25
<alkisg>
np, thanks for teaching me a new phrase (rubber duck debugging) :)
18:37
<bennabiy>
alkisg: here is my situation. I have been running from the server for my user (with the rest all thin clients). Some of what I do and use resources for, I cannot do as a thin client (so I guess technically, my user has been a thick client the whole time) ;)
18:38
<alkisg>
bennabiy: ltsp-pnp supports both thin and fat at the same time, you don't need multiple images...
18:38
<bennabiy>
but now I want to use a fatclient for my user, but not disrupt the rest of the thin clients which are running fine
18:38
<alkisg>
Just set LTSP_FATCLIENT=False in lts.conf, and LTSP_FATCLIENT=True for you
18:39
<bennabiy>
alkisg: what about my 2 nic setup?
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<bennabiy>
I thought ltsp-pnp used just 1
18:40
<alkisg>
bennabiy: it's just 1 line in your dhcp configuration
18:40
(2 nics vs 1 nic)
18:40
Actually, the default setup supports both 1 and 2 nics
18:41
If you use 192.168.67.1 as your internal ip, it works out of the box
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18:42
<bennabiy>
alkisg: my issue... I have users actively logged in and working. Can I switch to pnp without disrupting them?
18:42
since they are all thin clients anyway
18:43
<Enslaver>
which distro's are currently using btrfs for the thin clients?
18:44
<bennabiy>
have you tested ltsp-pnp with versions other than 12.04?
18:45
alkisg: also, is it fine if I use the current ppa I have of ltsp for ltsp-pnp?
18:46
aka my ppa which is in sync with upstream
18:46
(I noticed you suggest using the greekschools ppa)
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<bennabiy>
alkisg: so what exactly is the difference between making a fat client and using ltsp-pnp?
18:59
when potentially, I am the only fat client on the network
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<bennabiy>
ok, I think I see what is happening...
19:05
what is the default image name that it creates? amd64.img?
19:05
or whatever arch
19:05* bennabiy wants patience... and I want it now!
19:06
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Why don't you pray for it? :P
19:06
bennabiy: Sorry, just had to... :D
19:08
<bennabiy>
I probably should more than I do...
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<alkisg>
(08:42:12 μμ) bennabiy: alkisg: my issue... I have users actively logged in and working. Can I switch to pnp without disrupting them? ==> sure, you just need an ltsp-update-image -c /
19:16
(08:45:31 μμ) bennabiy: alkisg: also, is it fine if I use the current ppa I have of ltsp for ltsp-pnp? => yup
19:16
(08:44:26 μμ) bennabiy: have you tested ltsp-pnp with versions other than 12.04? => nope
19:16
bennabiy: if your server is amd64, then the ltsp-pnp image will be amd64 too
19:17
So if your clients are i386, don't use ltsp-pnp, just build a fat chroot
19:17
Enslaver: none? :)
19:18
<bennabiy>
the rest of the clients are all atom machines
19:18
which do not make good fat clients (score of about 300 )
19:19
could I not use ltsp-update-image -c / for an amd64 fat client, and then let the thin clients use the existing i386 image?
19:20
and then at my /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
19:20
make my mac address of my fat client pull the right image?
19:21
<alkisg>
bennabiy: sure
19:21
<bennabiy>
Is it possible to set IPAPPEND=3 only for that one kernel?
19:21* alkisg uses atoms as fat clients, but his servers aren't very good, score of about 1500
19:22
<alkisg>
You don't need it since you're using an internal nic
19:22
<bennabiy>
great!
19:22
<alkisg>
But yeah, in pxelinux.cfg/01-mac-address instead of pxelinux.cfg/default
19:22
Don't do anything that the wiki says
19:22
Since you already have ltsp set up, just run the ltsp-update-image -c / command
19:22* bennabiy nods
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<bennabiy>
and then what is the proper format for the dhcp entry for that mac address?
19:29* bennabiy waves to vagrantc as well
19:29
<bennabiy>
good flight?
19:30
I managed to get ldm-mint-theme hosted on linuxmint server
19:30
so it is available, but when I ran install, it pulled ubuntu theme, so I think I need to make a hack in either late-packages, or 030-artwork
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<bennabiy>
alkisg: do I still need to do the NAT setup?
19:38
for the fat client?
19:39
<alkisg>
Yes
19:42
<bennabiy>
ok.
19:44
so if I want everything to default to i386, but want to load the fatclient for the one mac address, what is the best way to do that?
19:44
would I do a host entry in dhcpd?
19:48
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: yeah, you'll need to update the artwork plguin
19:50
<bennabiy>
by then, MINT_DIST should be set one way or another, right? so I could just do a check based on that
20:00
<sbalneav>
vagrantc, alkisg: what's your next week looking like? I can set aside a full day for testing/work on LTSP6?
20:01
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: not sure yet, just got back
20:01
sbalneav: need to play some catchup
20:01* vagrantc hopes to get a couple ltsp uploads in
20:01
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: should be, yeah.
20:03
-oes it add them to late-packages, or does it install them in the artwork plugin?
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<bennabiy>
well, ubuntu sneaks in the ldm in artwork
20:05
025-artwork I think it is
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<bennabiy>
vagrantc, alkisg: is there any way to not have a lasting tftp directory?
20:08
I mean to have a lasting (like if I wanted to set up menus in it)
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<bennabiy>
Would it work to set up the menus in tftpboot root dir, and then set the dhcp to look there?
20:11
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: just put your menus in the top-level dir instead of the ltsp generated ones
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<vagrantc>
and point dhcp to those files instead
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<bennabiy>
exactly
20:24
<alkisg>
sbalneav, vagrantc: i'm in for an ltsp6 day, less so in tuesday and thursday
20:25* alkisg could also arrange to have a webcam for a hangout, if needed...
20:26
<alkisg>
bennabiy: that's what I do too... http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2828.0;attach=1672;image
20:31
<bennabiy>
alkisg: where did you pull that menu from?
20:31
I know how to make .menu files, but how do I get them to be recognized?
20:32
I did it a long time ago, but cannot remember how
20:32
that is basically what I want.
20:33
<sbalneav>
Hangouts are always useful.
20:36* bennabiy has never "hung out"
20:41* sbalneav prefers his hangouts to involve beer.
20:41
<jammcq>
sbalneav: hey
20:41
<elias_a>
Hangouts or hangovers?
20:41
:P
20:43
<bennabiy>
alkisg: you wouldnt part with your source would you?
20:43
<alkisg>
bennabiy: sure, it's in that forum topic... let me get you a link to use with google translate...
20:44
http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=2828.0
20:45
(although I haven't uploaded any new "versions" of that method for the past 2 years, I only have them locally...)
20:46* bennabiy really needs to learn greek...
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<Jason_New>
Hi, Im new. We have loaded LTSP on openSUSE 12.3 using kiwi. We have booted several machine via PXE and we connect to a Green Screen with "Education openSUSE". Can anyone help me with what comes next? We have been trying things for two days with no success.
21:01
<bennabiy>
alkisg: when you have a ` in there, what does that stand for?
21:02
<alkisg>
In the tree? It's just the output of the `tree` command, to join the tree "leaves"...
21:03
<vagrantc>
Jason_New: try in #kiwi-ltsp
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<Jason_New>
#kiwi-ltsp thanks
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<bennabiy>
gotcha, and all the syslinux stuff is in its own directory, right?
21:27
according to your default file, it is, but the tree listing looks like it is all in the root
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<bennabiy>
hmm.. Script //usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-cleanup does not exist, cannot cleanup the chroot.
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<alkisg>
Old package? The current debian/ directory should include that file.
21:40
(in the .install scripts...)
21:41
<bennabiy>
I think I am not running from my ppa on this machine.
21:41
<alkisg>
Either add yours, or the greek ppa
21:42
<bennabiy>
ok. Would it hurt it if I stop the build process?
21:42
it is compressing the image
21:47
hmm. not letting me add my ppa.
22:07
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: my hunch is this next week might be hard, but the following weekend should be good, maybe
22:09
sbalneav: i'd definitely like to get a sprint of some kind together, though
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: my goal is to get ltsp6 ready-ish in the next 6-8 months
22:12
<alkisg>
sbalneav: do you remember if there was something wrong with `xprop -spy`, and you had to implement xatomwait? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1248438
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: i bet your the bzr history knows
22:17
<alkisg>
vagrantc: for ltsp-localappsd?
22:18
move to shell based daemon per Gadi: xrexecd.c -> xatomwait.c, simply wait for an atom to change, print atom contents, and exit. modified xrexecd.sh to xatomwait
22:19
<vagrantc>
it used to be xrexecd, i think
22:20
<alkisg>
vagrantc: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/832
22:21
There was no `-spy` parameter
22:21
So there was a need for `sleep `, and constant xprop calls, etc
22:21
<vagrantc>
right
22:21
<alkisg>
So... remove xatomwait.c and get back to the shell implementation, but with -spy?
22:22
Or just leave it for ltsp6 with an ssh socket?
22:22
<vagrantc>
so we either didn't know about -spy or it didn't exist...
22:22
i like the idea of incremental improvements
22:23
as long as they're not too invasive
22:23
<alkisg>
Sounds good to me too, I can take care of the code if you take care of any packaging changes needed :)
22:23
<vagrantc>
although i did want to just upload what was in ltsp-trunk saturday without much fuss
22:24
hoped to get it this last weekend... got some testing in this week
22:24
<alkisg>
np, I can do it when we'll do the ltsp coding day
22:25
<vagrantc>
i'd like to try and schedule at least a couple days a month or something to focus on coding
22:25
or even a day a week?
22:25
<alkisg>
Personally I prefer to put a looot of days into one subject, then move to another
22:26
So I e.g. wanted to debug 14.04 (not ltsp things) till christmas, and focus on ltsp6 at the summer
22:26
(and progress my phd a bit inbetween...)
22:26* vagrantc wants ltsp6 ready by summer...
22:26
<vagrantc>
or mostly ready
22:29* alkisg is fine with the "a couple of days per month" approach though
22:31
<vagrantc>
i'd really like to get some sort of sprint together, ideally in person, sometime this summer
22:32
<alkisg>
If you can find me a place to stay, I can get there a lot before debconf :)
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<parasitodelsur>
team, I am having an issue I cant get pass through....
23:15
pb coming up
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<SeRi>
http://pastebin.com/Cyf5XkVk
23:17
I keep getting that error
23:18
I done a previous install without issues. about 2 month ago.
23:20
I seen a few emails regarding the same issue on the mailing lists but I dont see a fix
23:29
another thing I notice that is odd.... 2 month ago the repo had 5.4.5-24.el6 and now it has 5.4.5-22.el6.... It makes no sense