IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 27 February 2015   (all times are UTC)

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03:07
<Harvie>
Hi! I wanted to ask if there is some willingnes to make use of xpra in ltsp...
03:09
I think it would be great if i can just move from terminal to terminal having all my windows and apps following me
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03:33
<vagrantc>
not in less than 15 minutes...
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06:03
<alkisg>
Good morning
06:20* vagrantc wave
06:20
<vagrantc>
s
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10:02
<zChris>
Hello, can i run a windows program under LTSP?
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11:25
<alkisg>
zChris: hi, it's the same as without LTSP. I.e. ask in your distribution channel about "wine"
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11:37
<metal-machine>
Hi, My thin-client is not able to login. I am using AMD-64 for root and i386 for Application server.
11:37
<alkisg>
All thin clients are not able to login, or just one?
11:38
And, which desktop environment are you using
11:38
?
11:38
<metal-machine>
Lxde
11:38
<alkisg>
...and which distribution...
11:38
<metal-machine>
Debian
11:38
<alkisg>
Wheezy?
11:38
<metal-machine>
yes debian wheezy
11:38
and usind ltsp-server-standalone package
11:39
<alkisg>
The problem is the session command, what's the output of this? grep -r ^Exec /usr/share/xsessions/
11:40
<metal-machine>
I am on remote location, It will take 5 mintues to me to get reply
11:40
is that fine for you?
11:40
<alkisg>
ok, i'll disconnect for a while but i'll see your command, do paste it
11:40
bbiab
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11:53
<metal-machine>
Sorry alkisg, The person on other side went down. :( I also want to share that I am using i386 for application server.
11:54
<alkisg>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/1330252
11:55
metal-machine: check this, it's probably similar ^
12:05
<zChris>
alkisg, ah alright
12:08
<metal-machine>
ok, Thanks. :) I will report
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13:40
<muppis>
Managed to boot Odroid in fat client mode. Easy way to tell be thin client?
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13:41
<muppis>
Founded.
13:52
Hmm... Still starting it as fat.
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14:46
<Hyperbyte>
muppis, isn't there an lts.conf FAT_CLIENT setting or something in ltsp-pnp?
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15:18
<cliebow>
!seen sbalneav1
15:18
<ltsp`>
I have not seen sbalneav1.
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16:38
<muppis>
Hyperbyte, yes it is, but doesn't seem obey it. Need a look again at monday.
16:40
<alkisg>
LTSP_FATCLIENT=False
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17:34
<stevecook>
just wanted to come on here and tell you of an amazing ltsp setup i have just implementted as a consequence of advice form a user on here.....cont...
17:35
It is from this site (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp) and involves the use of a single nic and routes the internet and ltsp simultaneously through the router.....cont...
17:36
absolutely briliant! Clinets running perfectly and perfect full screen streaming viedo to all clients. took all of 10 minutes to install and setup. .....absolutely incredible!!!!
17:38
I can now promote this with confidence to an educational institution I work in. Thank you so much to the LTSP team
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<vagrantc>
stevecook: glad to hear it!
17:55
!worldmap | echo stevecook
17:55
<ltsp`>
stevecook worldmap: If you're using LTSP, please let the world know and share your story at http://www.ltsp.org/stories/ Your can add a nice pin to our world map at your location, plus your setup will count towards the global LTSP usage statistics.
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18:06
<stevecook>
Added myself to the world map. Also, for any of the admin on here: if anyone from my area wishes to contact me for help in implementing ltsp, feel free to pass over my email
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18:06
<vagrantc>
and that is?
18:07
heh
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18:23
<cliebow>
stevecook..You rock a singlet!!!
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18:23
<cliebow>
or was that Neil Degrasse Tyson
18:25
<stevecook>
message to alskig.........PNP LTSP worked....you are a scholar and a gentleman! took ten mins to install and all clients running video at fullscreen perfectly with no connection issues or, indeed, any other issues. Thankyou!
18:25
or a gentlewoman....sorry for any inadevertant sexism
18:29
<cliebow>
np..alkisg is Alkis Georgeopoulos.
18:30
<alkisg>
stevecook: you're welcome, it was fun developing it with all the team here ;)
18:30
tab in irc autocompletes the names and saves spelling errors
18:31
<cliebow>
alk
18:31
<vagrantc>
stevecook: where's your area?
18:32
alkisg: met with someone from the local schools the other day using LTSP; wants to get it used more widely in the local schools and was pretty inspired by what you've done!
18:33
<alkisg>
Cool! /me hopes someone will be interested in helping to internationalize sch-scripts...
18:33
This really automates installations, even non IT teachers can maintain pc labs with them
18:34
sch-scripts do have some dark areas wrt debian policy though, hard to upstream it to debian
18:34
<vagrantc>
alkisg: so a big part of what makes it work is sch-scripts?
18:35
mangling config files and such?
18:35
<alkisg>
Yes, sch-scripts basically stands for "do whatever the teachers need to do automatically, or offer them a gui"
18:35
<vagrantc>
you can mangle configuration files with helper utilities (e.g. ltsp-config, puppet, etc.) but running the helper utilities automatically is a problem.
18:35
<cliebow>
Sob!!! I cant be on the map..since i ve lost all my labs.
18:35
<alkisg>
dependencies (gnome-flashback), gsettings, config files, gui for user management, gui for setting up a network connection with nat...
18:36
So basically the guide says, install ubuntu from our own live cd, and then run this command to make your installation a "server"
18:36
<vagrantc>
none of that actually sounds policy-violating if the admin runs it manually
18:37
<alkisg>
Yes, if we were to upstream it we'd need to run those in a "setup wizard", after postinst
18:37
<vagrantc>
ah, but you run them in postinst?
18:37
<alkisg>
Some things run even before sch-scripts is installed (adding our repositories etc
18:38
we have something like `wget our installation script and run it`
18:38
We'll slowlly move things to packages, e.g. sch-keyring and such
18:38
One good part is our user management interface, we should definately internationalize this, it allows mass user creation with shared folders etc
18:39
Ideal for schools
18:39
Something like this: http://dide.sam.sch.gr/keplinet/images/article-images/ltsp_15.png
18:39
The teacher just mentions his classes and the number of pcs in his lab
18:40
Or, we also have a signup feature in ldm
18:41
<cliebow>
there are some issues with the map..Indonesia is out in the middle of the Atlantic
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18:46
<vagrantc>
there are lots of issues with maps in general
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19:52
<stevecook>
Hi vagrantc. I am in york in the Uk
19:55
<vagrantc>
i think the person who implemented the pi-ltsp stuff is in the UK, no idea how close to york
20:01
<stevecook>
I am so happy with this setup, it runs fullscreen vid perfectly and does not require a user to manually connect to the internet on each session. The only tiny niggle rmeaining is finding a way for the unlock function to recognise the user password or, failing that, how to disable lockscreen. any advice gratefully recieved
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20:07
<metal-machine>
Hey I want to confirm one thing. Do we create thinclient- users in Application server or in root server?
20:09
IMHO it is in application server. Please correct me is I am wrong?
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<stevecook>
vagrantc: raspberry pi are near blackpool. A hundred and ten miles or so from me. Just took a look at their vid on youtube. Very nice project to understand the power of linux and ltsp for the kids.
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<vagrantc>
metal-machine: users should be created on the application server, yes.
20:49
metal-machine: often times the root server and application server are the same
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