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Channel log from 27 February 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<sathis>
hello guys
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<sathis>
i have both windows and linux terminal all i need to run a single dhcp and different OS
07:10
like both windows and ubuntu on the same dhcp
07:10
is that possible to run ubuntu without dhcp in my windows terminal
07:10
any one help please
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<komunista>
what is windows terminal, please?
07:31
<sathis>
as like ltsp windows terminal serever for clients
07:31
<komunista>
then you have two different terminal servers?
07:32
<sathis>
yes
07:32
all i do is now i need to turn off either server to get one
07:32
<komunista>
both are running on the same network and in the same time?
07:32
<sathis>
yes
07:33
<komunista>
and both are running own DHCP server?
07:33
<sathis>
yes
07:33
but that ain't safe right running in that way
07:33
<komunista>
two DHCP servers on one network is bad idea
07:34
<sathis>
i can add the ubuntu boot pxe to the windows right
07:34
<komunista>
yes
07:34
I can't help with widows DHCP server...
07:34
<sathis>
i need to add my ubuntu ltsp to windows but i dont know how to make that without runing a dhcp in my ltsp
07:35
i'm able to locate the tftpd in my windows but how to add my linux pxe to that ?
07:35
any idea
07:36
<komunista>
idea is to identify clients in DHCP server (by MAC, or BY class, etc) and serve proper URL to TFTP server
07:37
you can have more TFTP servers on one network
07:37
<sathis>
is that possible to network book ltsp with out runing DHCP in ubuntu ?
07:37
<komunista>
IMHO yes, only some DHCP settings are needed :-)
07:38
<sathis>
yes right
07:38
some guys tried and added a citrix server to my windows terminal list
07:39
just added the IP to that session and which show on the login screen
07:39
all i need to make one new session for my ubunt but how just IP can make boot my linux
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07:40
<sathis>
SESSION_6_TITLE="Citrix server"
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SESSION_6_TYPE=ica
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SESSION_6_ICA_SERVER=192.168.2.23
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SESSION_6_ICA_APPLICATION_SET="Firefox"
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SESSION_6_ICA_OPTIONS="-username test -password qwak"
07:41
thats how my cirtix server session looks like in my windows terminal
07:41
where are how i can add my ubuntu to that
07:41
<komunista>
somewhere at ubuntu wiki is detailed description how LTSP boots, there is detailed description about IP getting, try to find it and read (some as LTSP Handbook)
07:41
<sathis>
sure
07:42
<komunista>
I never need nether use more terminal servers :-)
07:44
but I have TFTP server (by more exact dnsmasq) to give boot menu to clients - to allow select image to boot
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but if you want only login to windows terminal server, you not need serve different image and only set the rdesktop session
07:46
<sathis>
yes currently by windows are rdp session
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where are as when i hit linux i need to get boot the ubuntu terminal
07:46
is that possible ?
07:49
<komunista>
I am sorry, is terrible to understand you for me :-)
07:49
can you please simple describe what you want to realise?
07:54
<sathis>
i have both windows and linux terminal all in need to make it as oe
07:54
i have both windows and linux terminal all in need to make it as one
07:57
<komunista>
do you mean the terminal servers or terminal clients?
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<no_mind>
I have a server machine with two network cards. Can I run LTSP off second LAN card, given that both cards have IP in same subnet ?
12:04
<jtwood>
Depending on why you have to NIC with IPs assigned to the same subnet, you might be better off with some sort of bonding, depending on what your switch supports and what your NICS support.
12:04
Honestly, I don't even think it will work anyway
12:04
I think that one of the NICS will reply for either and you may end up with more problems that you would like
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<jtwood>
I think it can be done, but I think you may have a lot of configuration to do to get there. Somebody a little bit more familiar with networking might be able to confirm this, but from what I know it sounds like it'll be interesting
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<alkisg>
Sure you can do that, but is there a reason to make it complicated? Btw, are they on the same *physical* subnet, or they're connected to separate switches?
12:15
<no_mind>
the issue is that LTSP box servers as proxy too. I need to give password less proxy and website access control. The network is homogeneous so I cant rely on ident for user identification. The only other way is to rely on mac address but in case of LTSP clients, the mac address is same as server. So, if I put any restriction on LTSP clients, they will be applicable on server too but I want unrestricted access to internet for browser ru
12:15
server*
12:16
So I was thinking of binding ltsp and tftp to one ip and binding squid to another nic. This way ltsp could be served form one nic and all http request come to another nic
12:17
<alkisg>
And why would that help? All http requests coming from another nic?
12:17
Also, why not install ident to the chroot? Or, why not use a different subnet?
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<no_mind>
how do I run ident on windows boxes ? proxy is common for ltsp and windows users
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<alkisg>
And how would changing the NIC help windows boxes? Those are a separate problem
12:23
Btw, there may be some ident daemons for windows, haven't looked
12:23
Or you can filter those by mac
12:25
<no_mind>
how much memory will ident use ? Some of the LTSP clients have 128MB ram ?
12:28
<alkisg>
Very little
12:29
128 MB RAM terminals need e.g. 512 MB network swap for firefox and openoffice pixmaps. The about 2 Mb that identd will need aren't significant at all.
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<vagrantc>
hmmm...
13:35
with ldm 2.2.1, the keyboard shortcuts don't appear to work
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i.e. alt-P to get the preferences menu
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it also seems a bit odd that the "backend" option is the first in the menu vs. language or session type
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<vagrantc>
and RDP protocol interacts a little strangely with xrdp- it doesn't seem to actually log in ... it presents with another login menu
13:40
maybe i need to specify some RDP* variables
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<msaul_>
Hi, I installed Edubuntu with ltsp option. Although I can ping to my router and router recognised by server's IP address, it does not return packet. Was wondering if there is some setting I must do to allow me to connect to the internet (I believe I am using correct NIC - i.e. not connecting wrong NIC card...)
14:35
I am using Edubuntu 10.10 version... with the ltsp option on the screen (previously, I have used alternate install media)...
14:43
<alkisg>
msaul_: maybe your route is wrong?
14:45
Run those commands and put the output to pastebin:
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ip -oneline -family inet addr show
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ip -oneline -family inet link show
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cat /etc/resolv.conf
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<vagrantc>
hmm... apparently setting LDM_NOMAD makes the rdesktop backend work as expected. hm.
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<msaul>
Would someone please let me know URL for pastebin? Thanks...
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<vagrantc>
!pastebin
18:44
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "pastebin" :: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
18:50
<msaul>
vagrantc: Thanks, I posted commands to paste bin
18:51
Wanted to know what is preventing me from connecting to Internet...
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<vagrantc>
msaul: nobody can see them unless you post the URL
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<msaul>
vagrantc: http://ltsp.pastebin.com/Fqf5SUZA
19:05
Sorry, it has been a while...
19:07
eth1 is to the router (and the internet) eth0 is to switch for think clients
19:07
<vagrantc>
do you have a gateway/router set for both interfaces?
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<msaul>
Not certain, in the network connections setup for wired connection, only have - auto eth1
19:40
I can't even get Internet access on the server itself... that is the main problem for me right now...
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