IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 20 September 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<amol>
hi to all, how to make use of bootsplash at workstation?
06:18
sbalneav, cyberorg i am not able to access local harddisk at workstation..i am able to use cdrom,usb
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<amol>
hi to all,i am not able to access local harddisk at workstation..i am able to use cdrom,usb...what changes i have to do??
07:33
<cyberorg>
amol, great work :)
07:33
<amol>
cyberorg, thanks..but still i am not able to access local harddisk at workstation??
07:34
<cyberorg>
amol, LTSP is for "diskless workstations" so local har disks are intentionally not supported\
07:34
<amol>
cyberorg, 3d also working at workstation
07:35
cyberorg, but some data is available of old operating system then how to use it
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<amol>
cyberorg, if i can access my local harddisk then may be i can use for storing docs
07:37
cyberorg, i am having many system with linux installed on their harddisk i want to make all them workstation ..as well want to use all their hardware
07:38
cyberorg, is their any way to acces local harddisk??
07:41
<Solv>
cyberorg, I still can't login with kde4...kde3 is fine...they must have screwed up something in an update but I can't figure it out
07:42
<cyberorg>
Solv, remove ~/.kde4 folder
07:43
amol, someone recently posted a workaround on the ltsp-discuss mailing list
07:44
<Solv>
cyberorg, i can test it by creating a new user instead of losing all my settings...but it still doesn't work...it's got to do with the session manager or policy kit i think...not letting a remote login occur with X maybe?
07:44
<cyberorg>
Solv, most likely you have missed updating one of the packages, do you have qt as well as KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repo added?
07:44
<amol>
cyberorg, how to make use of bootsplash at booting time for workstation?
07:44
<Solv>
cyberorg, lol...yeah i do know...lost my whole desktop for a week there until i found that out
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<Solv>
i'm trying to nail it down so i can give kde some intelligent info to go on
07:45
#kde rather
07:45
<cyberorg>
amol, use vga=791 in boot parameter
07:46
Solv, add both of those repo, do zypper refresh and then update everything from there
07:46
remove .kde4 before loging in
07:47
<Solv>
already did....that's how i got my desktop back...removing .kde4 does nothing more than adding a new user would...so I'd rather not lose all my settings to find out that it hasn't fixed the problem
07:47
<cyberorg>
i am on Version 4.1.1 (KDE 4.1.0 (4.1 >= 20080722)) "release 26.4", works great :)
07:47
<Solv>
i just create a 'test' user and make sure a new home dir is created
07:48
cyberorg, true? okay so your thin clients can login fine?
07:48
<cyberorg>
Solv, they always did, all through updates
07:48
<amol>
cyberorg, Solv i am having one doubt that by default it install ldm then how you are using kde?
07:48
by chroot install kde?
07:49
<Solv>
cyberorg, hmmm yeah it worked for me when i first installed it...opensuse 11 with 4.04...updated to 4.1 and it was fine...then i did a reinstall of opensuse 11 on a raid array, and updated to 4.1 BEFORE installing ltsp....and that's when it stopped working...
07:49
<cyberorg>
amol, no, select it from "Preference"
07:50
Solv, create another test server and try duplicating it
07:50
<Solv>
cyberorg, oh and the other really freaky thing is bootsplash worked fine originally...but second time around it no longer works....i get told i passed an undefined video mode...
07:51
<cyberorg>
Solv, add vga=<your video mode> in /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
07:51
<Solv>
but if i remove splash=silent and keep the same video mode i get the verbose fram buffer console in 1280x1024 at 16 bit!!!....go figure
07:51
cyberorg, oh no i'm talking about on the server
07:51
local boot
07:51
<amol>
cyberorg, even i added kernel parameter vga=791,bootsplash is not working..
07:52
<cyberorg>
mkinitrd -s 1024x768
07:52
<amol>
but for server same bootsplash is working..
07:53
<Solv>
amol, yeah well at least you got a bootsplash on your server
07:53
<cyberorg>
sorry i lost you, ltsp clients have proper bootsplash?
07:53
<amol>
cyberorg, where i have to check for ltsp-client bootsplash??
07:54
<Solv>
cyberorg, actually i forgot i hadn't gone onto #opensuse to figure out my bootsplash problem on the server...i'm not fussed about boootsplash on the thin clients for the moment =)...amol may be
07:55
<cyberorg>
amol, you dont have to set anything for that, it should just work
07:55
unless debian has it disabled
07:55
<nubae>
hmmm new filemanager now has tabs, cool
07:56
<cyberorg>
nubae, i find split view of dolphin more useful than tabs on nautilus
07:57
<Solv>
cyberorg, /me agrees =)
07:57
damn
07:57
well you get the point
07:57
<nubae>
still, tabs on nautilis is nice for gnome
07:57
but yeah the split view is cool, though dont quite trust kde 4 yet
07:58
<cyberorg>
:)
07:59
<amol>
nubae, cyberorg, LOCALSTORAGE=Y is usefull in ltsp5 to access local harddisk?
07:59
<cyberorg>
amol, check the mailing list
08:00
<nubae>
not needed its on by default
08:00
<cyberorg>
as i said few lines back, there was a discussion going on about it
08:00
<nubae>
oh sorry... local storage...
08:00
<cyberorg>
nubae, he means local hard disks
08:00
<nubae>
disabled by default
08:00
needs to be enabled by hand
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<Solv>
i don't understand why you'd wanna access the hdd
08:00
<nubae>
swap space
08:01
to enable it, you'd have to edit the ltsp scripts, not just lts.conf
08:02
<Solv>
nubae, okay good point...although I just increase the swap space on the server for each machine if i run into issues
08:03
<nubae>
yeah I use the local hard disks for booting :-)
08:03
<amol>
nubae, can you tell me what changes i should do in lts.conf and script??
08:05
<nubae>
amol: go look in the amol I can, but all changes u make will be overwritten when u next update ltsp
08:06
and its extremely insecure... everyone has access to the local drive information then
08:06
<amol>
just this is for learning ..
08:07
<cyberorg>
amol, you really should try looking in mailing list archive, it is not that difficult :)
08:07
<amol>
cyberorg, i tried but they mentioned about ltsp4.2
08:08
<cyberorg>
you will also learn why it was disabled and the technology involved in blocking ot
08:08
*it
08:08
amol, the discussion is from this month for ltsp5
08:08
<nubae>
yep... there are good reasons its disabled
08:09
<Solv>
cyberorg, well nobody one opensuse seems clever enough to help my with my bootsplash problem...do you have any other suggestions? - you're an opensuse man aren't you?
08:10
<cyberorg>
Solv, i already posted solution here ^^
08:10
<Solv>
mkinitrd -s 1024x768?
08:10
<cyberorg>
yes
08:10
<Solv>
cyberorg, thought you were taling to amol
08:11
is that it...any dir i have to be in?
08:11
like /usr/src/linux?
08:11
<cyberorg>
no, run as root
08:12
<Solv>
cyberorg, could i try mkinitrd -s 1280x1024 or do you think that may be the problem?
08:12
<cyberorg>
Solv, in #suse please
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<amol>
nubae, after doing LOCALDEV=True also i am not able to access harddisk and not able to understand solution given in ltsp-discuss about udev rules..
09:29
<nubae>
amol: like I said before, its been disabled and needs to be enabled in the udev scripts of the thin client
09:39
<amol>
nubae, i am not able to undrestand udev rules and what to change..please can you guide me?
09:41
<loca|host>
hello all
09:42
<nubae>
amol: Im a little busy now, but in a couple hours I can take a look for you
10:11
<amol>
i will ask you tomarow..good night..
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<johnny>
people are trying to hack my nickserv password it seems
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<nubae>
heh
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<masterMed>
how to fix clock problem with ltsp? client system date is different from server system date!
16:08
how to update client date?
16:09
<johnny>
perhaps your clocks are messed up on the client hardware itself?
16:10
<masterMed>
I thought that all the kernel is stored on the server, isn't it?
16:10
so how can the date missmatch
16:10
<vagrantc>
the file is on the server, but it's running on the thin-client.
16:11
it's loaded into the thin-client's ram.
16:11
and using the thin-client's hardware
16:11
including the clock
16:13
<stgraber>
sbalneav: hey, I'm not near a LTSP system at the moment (haven't bought all the hardware I used to have in switzerland :)) and I was wondering if we can have some ldm rc.d scripts executed at logout time ?
16:14
sbalneav: for ltsp-cluster we need to tell our control-center when a session is opened and when it's closed so we can know who is logged where and if a session is already opened (so we can kill it to avoid locking issues)
16:15
<masterMed>
I agree with u, but can u tell me how to modify the date?
16:15
<johnny>
make sure the clock is set right in thin client bios
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<stgraber>
currently it's using XDMCP and GDM's pre and post sessions scripts to do that but with us moving to LDM I need to find a way to implement the same feature :)
16:16
masterMed: login on the thin client (tty1) as root, then run: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com && hwclock --systohc
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<masterMed>
thks a lot
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<vagrantc>
masterMed: install ntp on the server and set up a script to call ntpdate like above
17:02
masterMed: on boot of the thin-clients
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stgraber: there are bugs that have prevented the ldm/rc.d scripts for logout don't run...
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<masterMed>
you are sure that there is no other solution?
17:03
<vagrantc>
stgraber: http://bugs.debian.org/471793
17:03
masterMed: there are hundreds of other solutions, but i think that one will likely be the simplest.
17:04
<masterMed>
vagrantc: ok thks
17:05
<vagrantc>
masterMed: using ntp in some form or fashion is just a simple, smart, easy thing to do.
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<ark_>
Need help with grub.
21:40
any grub gurus awake
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<vagrantc_>
grub isn't such an LTSP thing...
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<ark_>
hi vagrant. You are right it's not but I'm trying to setup this laptop for an ltsp demo
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does anyone know what reasons grub-install will report "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" It exists. I've checked fstab and mtab. also checked grub.conf
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<toastydeath>
hi all
23:35
two dumb questions
23:35
has anyone tried to run ltsp on a single image system?
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=(
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