IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 15 September 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<nosedrum>
hi there
07:12
i migrate 15 server from 9.04 to 10.4.3
07:12
13 without prolem
07:12
2 of them made this:
07:12
after the first migration from 9.04 to 9.10
07:12
the client have message at logon
07:12
"can connect to server - restarting"
07:13
normally a "sshkey + update-image " solve this
07:13
but after the update-image
07:13
the client goes to busy box
07:15
conclusion: why ltsp-update-image make the client fail into a initramfs busy box
07:15
in 9.10
07:15
seems to be in relation why inetd / xinetd ?
07:20
... i understand my issue is strange ... but i have 70 more servers to upgrade and seems to be not stable....
07:36
<alkisg>
Do you have xinetd in your other servers?
07:37
And, what is the error message on the client, before dropping to busybox?
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07:47
<nosedrum>
no init found trying passing bootarg
07:49
<alkisg>
And the first question?
07:51
<nosedrum>
( sorry i'm on site for re install a ltsp server )
07:52
have a arp timeout on tftp
07:52
...
07:52
<alkisg>
np I'm about to leave anyway
08:01
<nosedrum>
back
08:02
my fresh install of ltsp is stuck with a no init found trying passing bootarg
08:02
busy box
08:04
<alkisg>
Put break=bottom, and see the contents of /root in busybox
08:04
<nosedrum>
ok
08:04
<alkisg>
They should be the same as the contents of /opt/ltsp/i386 in your servedr
08:04
*server
08:04
<nosedrum>
in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default or /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default-org
08:05
<alkisg>
The first one
08:05
The second shouldn't matter
08:06
Btw is your each server separate from the others?
08:06
Or are you doing some form of load balancing, like ltsp-cluster?
08:06
<nosedrum>
no
08:06
one only server
08:06
now i have
08:07
spawning sheel iniramfs
08:07
and ls / root in busy box return no data
08:08
<alkisg>
No space there
08:08
ls /root
08:09
Also: grep nbd /proc/mounts
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08:10
<nosedrum>
ls /root
08:10
cow rofs
08:10
<alkisg>
Good
08:10
and the grep above should say /root/cow
08:10
err
08:10
/root/rofs
08:11
Now, ls /root/rofs
08:12
<nosedrum>
grep = no result
08:12
<alkisg>
Wait, what?!
08:12
Are you sure that this returns no result? grep nbd /proc/mounts
08:13
<nosedrum>
sure
08:13
and ls /root/rofs => empty
08:13
<alkisg>
Run: nbd-client 1.2.3.4 2000 /dev/nbd0
08:13
Where 1.2.3.4 is your server ip
08:13
<nosedrum>
ok
08:15
spam of I/O error
08:15
<alkisg>
Is that the same server where yesterday you told me that you saw "nbd client... negotiating... size: 456123 kb" ?
08:15
<nosedrum>
unable to read partition table
08:15
no
08:15
it's a new server
08:15
freshly masterised
08:15
i just rsync /home from older to this new
08:16
to recup users data
08:16
<alkisg>
On the server, try: sudo mount -o loop /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img /mnt && ls /mnt && sudo umount /mnt
08:16
See if the i386.img is correct
08:16
<nosedrum>
2 sec i connect my laptop near the client
08:16
<alkisg>
Then grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
08:16
<nosedrum>
i deco reco back in few seconds
08:19
back
08:20
root@ltsp_a06:~# mount -o loop /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img /mnt && ls /mnt && sudo umount /mnt
08:20
bin dev home media opt root selinux sys usr
08:20
boot etc lib mnt proc sbin srv tmp var
08:20
sudo: unable to resolve host ltsp_a06
08:20
ho !
08:20
my /etc/hosts file
08:21
no
08:21
i coorect my /etc/hosts file entry
08:21
no more change
08:21
root@ltsp_a06:~# mount -o loop /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img /mnt && ls /mnt && sudo umount /mnt
08:21
bin dev home media opt root selinux sys usr
08:21
boot etc lib mnt proc sbin srv tmp var
08:22
<alkisg>
(11:16:46 πμ) alkisg: Then grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
08:22
<nosedrum>
root@ltsp_a06:~# grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
08:22
#9572 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdswapd
08:22
2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
08:23
<alkisg>
OK, now: grep nbd /var/log/daemon.log | tail
08:23
That's not a new installation btw
08:23
Unless you commented out swap yourself
08:23
<nosedrum>
it's my master image
08:23
freshly put on this new server
08:24
<alkisg>
Hehe
08:24
The hardware doesn't matter
08:24
We're talking about the software...
08:24
Please don't tell me you have xinetd on that too
08:25
<nosedrum>
root@ltsp_a06:~# /etc/init.d/xinetd status
08:25
* xinetd is running
08:25
-___-
08:25
10.4.3 ?
08:25
<alkisg>
OK, we should stop trying to debug your copies
08:25
And try to debug your "master image" instead
08:25
<nosedrum>
ok
08:25
<alkisg>
Otherwise we'll just do the same things 50 times, for each server
08:26
<nosedrum>
apt-get install inetd ?
08:26
<alkisg>
Read the logs from yesterday
08:26
irclogs.ltsp.org
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<nosedrum_>
back
08:31
i don't see irclogs.ltsp.org
08:32
<alkisg>
http://irclogs.ltsp.org
08:32
It's a web site
08:32
<nosedrum_>
ok
08:32
apt-get install openbsd-inetd ?
08:32
go for that ?
08:32
<alkisg>
See the chat we did yesterday, that will save us some time
08:32
So that we don't do it again today :)
08:33
<nosedrum_>
we made so many things yesterday
08:33
in don't understand with inet -> xinetd from 9.04 to 10.4.3 and xinetd working in 10.4.3 masters...
08:33
anyway in put the apt-get install openbsd-inetd
08:35
i'll go crazy
08:36
inetd installed but same thing
08:36
busy box
08:36
ltsp-update-image --force ?
08:43
no more change....
08:43
users are on me
08:43
1.5 day of non production...
08:43
:(
08:44
i do theses thinigs:
08:44
apt-get install openbsd-inetd
08:44
and
08:44
ltsp-update-sshkeys
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ans
08:44
and
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ltsp-update-image -a i386 --force
08:47
<alkisg>
Reboot the server as well, because I'm not sure how good xinetd.postrm and openbsd-inetd.postinst are, and after reboot verify that netstat -nap | grep :2000 lists the tcp daemon
08:53
<nosedrum_>
ok
08:55
-__-
08:55
same error
08:55
no init found
08:56
root@ltsp_a06:~# netstat -nap | grep :2000
08:56
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1129/inetd
08:56
tcp 0 0 192.168.6.1:2000 192.168.6.51:37893 ESTABLISHED 2271/sh
08:56
<alkisg>
nosedrum_: did you verify what I said about netstat?
08:56
Good
08:56
<nosedrum_>
tcp deamon ok
08:56
<alkisg>
See that "established" there?
08:56
<nosedrum_>
it's the client
08:56
but he's on busy box
08:57
<alkisg>
Now if you do all the steps on the client that I told you an hour ago, we'll see what the client sees
08:57
<nosedrum_>
"not init found"
08:57
<alkisg>
I.e. break=bottom, ls /root/rofs etc
08:57
<nosedrum_>
i do
08:57
rofs empty
08:57
it is exactly the same thing
08:57
<alkisg>
And grep nbd /proc/mounts also empty?
08:58
<nosedrum_>
same
08:58
empty
08:58
<alkisg>
What is the kernel version on the client? uname -a
08:58
And, what is its command line? cat /proc/cmdline
08:59
<nosedrum_>
2.6.28-11
08:59
<alkisg>
That's not a lucid kernel
08:59
Lucid has 2.6.32
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<alkisg>
ltsp-update-image --force updates the kernels too
09:00
So if you have 2.6.28, maybe you're not using the correct server for tftp
09:00
Or, you still have a 9.04 chroot, and not a 10.04 one
09:01
What's the output of this? ls /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz*
09:02
<nosedrum_>
root@ltsp_a06:/vmware/Virtual Machines/VMGestCom# ls /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz*
09:02
/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic
09:02
<alkisg>
Right, old chroot
09:02
Delete it and run ltsp-build-client from the start
09:02
cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/issue
09:03
That will tell you the chroot version you have, 9.04 or 9.10
09:04
9.04, I believe
09:04
When you upgrade LTSP servers, it's suggested to delete your chroot and create a new one from scratch, with ltsp-build-client
09:05
<nosedrum_>
root@ltsp_a06:/vmware/Virtual Machines/VMGestCom# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/issue
09:05
Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l
09:05
root@ltsp_a06:/vmware/Virtual Machines/VMGestCom# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/issue
09:05
Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l
09:05
ok
09:05
let's go
09:05
<alkisg>
Yes, I'm going. bbl, good luck :)
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<garymc>
bollocks
09:50
missed Alkisg then
09:50
You here Hyperbyte?
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<Hyperbyte>
garymc, what's up?
10:00
<garymc>
Tha stuff I got off alkisg for making Chromium the defauklt browser on all Clients didnt work :(
10:01
the one i done in chroot and then update-ltsp-image
10:01
didnt work
10:02
<Hyperbyte>
What command did you run exactly?
10:02
I never saw your actual Firefox problems by the way
10:02
In the 2nd screenshot the page was scrolled down a bit, other than that I didn't see what you mean.
10:05
<garymc>
well its just having problems, chrome works great
10:07
ill have to check logs
10:08
ok I ran this in chroot
10:08
gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command 'chromium-browser "%s"'
10:08
then I updated image
10:08
but still when my clients click on their launchers, Firefox loads up
10:10
<Hyperbyte>
That's url-handler, not launcher.
10:10
<garymc>
so what do I need to change
10:10
<Hyperbyte>
URL handler is tested by opening a run-dialog (alt+f2) and typing http://www.ltsp.org/
10:10
<garymc>
like xdg-open?
10:10
<Hyperbyte>
If that opens in Chrome, the url-handler is correctly set to chrome. It means that when someone clicks a link, it opens in the browser of your choice rather than Firefox.
10:10
As for the launchers, you'll have to just edit those.
10:11
I think so, anyways.
10:11
But that's a different issue.
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<garymc>
So I can create a new launcher
10:23
and edit it in what way?
10:24
yeah runing that command via alt-f2 loads in chrome
10:25
I just need to know how to make the launcher load chrome
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<manU_>
hello
11:41
I have a error on client boot : failed to connect to nbd server
11:42
i have rebuilt client
11:42
image
11:42
and initramfs -u
11:42
no more idea
11:42
any suggestion ?
11:45
the port 2000 is LISTEN state in a netstat
11:47
i also test to modify my /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
11:47
from nbdport=2000 to nbdroot=x.x.x.x:2000
11:47
no change
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<manU_>
anyone ?
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<Hyperbyte>
nbdroot=x.x.x.x:2000?
12:19
Why on earth did you do that?
12:19
I would move as much configuration back to how it originally was
12:20
And run ltsp-update-image --force
12:20
See if that helps.
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<Hyperbyte>
Also, try telnetting to the server from a client on port 2000. telnet <server ip> 2000
12:26
See if that connects. If it doesn't, I'd investigate a possible firewall.
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12:51
<muppis>
How I can send message to any logged in user?
12:52
<alkisg>
Without having anything installed, like italc etc?
12:52
<muppis>
Yes.
12:52
<alkisg>
Graphical or text?
12:52
<muppis>
Graphical, like with zenity.
12:52
<alkisg>
OK, let me pastebin you a sample script...
12:53
http://paste.ubuntu.com/689972/
12:53
Of course you'll need sudo to run it
12:53
<muppis>
Sure thing. Thanks.
12:53
<alkisg>
Welcome
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<muppis>
Neat. :)
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13:27
<jammcq>
good morning friends
13:27
<pscheie>
good morning jammcq
13:27
<alkisg>
Hi jammcq
13:28
<jammcq>
hey, David Trask is coming to BTS :)
13:29
<shawnp0wers>
David Trask, Jim McQuillan… it feels like a reunion up in here. ;)
13:29
<dberkholz>
should've scheduled it for oct 8-9, i would've been nearby already
13:29
<jammcq>
hey shawnp0wers
13:29
<shawnp0wers>
Howdy. :)
13:29
<jammcq>
sorry to hear you can't come talk at our user group in october. Hopefully next spring
13:30
we had Marcel here a few days ago talking. went really well
13:32
<pscheie>
cool!
13:37
<jammcq>
hey, today is dtrasks birthday!
13:38
<pscheie>
how old?
13:38
<jammcq>
dunno
13:38
he doesn't hshow that on facebook
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<pscheie>
I think he's older than he looks, a certain Dorian Gray aspect about him. :-)
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<shawnp0wers>
jammcq: yeah, I'm still adjusting to a new boss. Hopefully this spring he'll know I'm not going on a vacation, but rather to something beneficial to my job. :)
13:41
<jammcq>
shawnp0wers: I'm sure it'll all work out. Or... you'll find a new job :)
13:41
<shawnp0wers>
Glad Marcel was able to come down. :)
13:41
hehehe — he's already coming around. I think technology scares him, because he knows enough to know how much you have to trust your tech guy...
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<alkisg>
dgroos: hey there, which ubuntu version are you using this year?
13:58
<dgroos>
alkisg: howdy!
13:58
10.04
13:58
Seems to be working well.
13:58
<alkisg>
We're preparing the new sch-scripts version, probably to be called "panoptes" now, and are looking for testers + english lang proof readers... :)
13:58
Do you use sch-scripts currently?
13:58
<dgroos>
Funny you should just ask that...
13:59
<alkisg>
Hehe, don't tell me you had bugs to report? :D
13:59
<dgroos>
I was re-reading a copy of an irc conversation about using ssh-scripts on fat clients...
13:59
no :)
14:00
<alkisg>
Using them with fat clients should be straightforward; the difficult part is that the teacher himself can't be at a fat client, he needs to be at a thin or at the server. Or use remoteapps.
14:00
<dgroos>
A task I need to do is make it so that the ssh -X access from the fat clients is a menu option on the fat client and am trying to figure that out right now.
14:01
<alkisg>
Why ssh -X instead of remoteapps?
14:01
<dgroos>
So yes, I'd be more than happy to help test, check you uses of anglish.
14:01
<alkisg>
Cool
14:01
Do you use the "server" or "user" menus?
14:01
Because those require sudo, and we're trying to avoid the need for sudo
14:01
We'll split sudo tasks in another tool
14:01
(that's to be called sch-scripts)
14:02
<dgroos>
I just read further in the conversation and saw about remote-apps… :D
14:02
which, worked out great as I recall, now.
14:02
<alkisg>
So, a teacher won't be able to run the menu for ltsp-update-image or for ltsp-enter-chroot, those will be reserved for sysadmins that have root access on the server
14:03
(of course teachers can also be sysadmins, but still they'll need to use the separate tool)
14:03
So the new interface won't have the "server" and "users" menus
14:03
<dgroos>
yes, actually I did use that menu--really appreciated it cuz I could forget about the ltsp-update-image command and the command to enter the chroot, too :)
14:04
That is good, actually, put the tools in reach of those who need them...
14:05
alkisg: Thought of a name… "MYCC" pronounced, "Mike". It's a friendly name.
14:05
<alkisg>
Hmmm then until the separation is finished, maybe you should stick with the old version - and only check the strings in the new one, if you'd like to help
14:06
What is "MYCC"?
14:06
<dgroos>
Manage Your Classroom Computers :D
14:06
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte suggested that we should avoid classroom/teachers/schools in the software description, menus etc
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14:06
<alkisg>
So that it can be used in other areas too
14:07
And yeah that makes sense...
14:07
"Project your screen", "Monitor user screens", not mentioning teachers/students anywhere
14:07
<dgroos>
Sure, in the Apple world they call it, "Apple Remote Desktop", or ARD for short.
14:08
I'll keep thinking...
14:08
<alkisg>
I too like the acronyms idea though
14:11
<dgroos>
So, what can I do to help with panoptes?
14:11
<alkisg>
If you install it currently in your production server, you'll lose the "server" and "users" menu...
14:11
So I guess you could only help with the english texts, if you like
14:12
Then we'll translate them to greek, and markit to italian
14:15
<dgroos>
While I like gui's, I'm fine with ltsp-update-image and ltsp-enter-chroot (btw, what's the command to enter the chroot, ltsp-enter-chroot didn't work for me when I tested it right now…)
14:15
<alkisg>
In sch-scripts we have a hidden ltsp-enter-chroot somewhere,
14:15
but then ltsp-chroot got upstream, so better download + use that one
14:15
!ltsp-chroot
14:15
<ltsp>
alkisg: ltsp-chroot: you can download ltsp-chroot from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/server/scripts/debian/ltsp-chroot
14:16
<dgroos>
I'd be happy to translate and test.
14:16
<alkisg>
..and put it to /usr/sbin/ltsp-chroot
14:16
<dgroos>
Thanks.
14:16
<alkisg>
Thank you :) I'll tell Phantomas to send you the 2 debs when he has them ready.
14:16
<dgroos>
For sure!
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<dgroos>
alkisg: after putting file into /usr/sbin/ltsp-chroot do I need to reboot? also, since it's located on an arch64 machine do I need to specify --arch 32 every time I use it?
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15:16
<Gadi>
Hi, everyone
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15:22
<mgariepy>
hi Gadi
15:22
how do you do?
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<Gadi>
Ive been told I do quite well at times
15:24
:)
15:25
<jammcq>
that's what she said
15:25
<Gadi>
of course, everyone has his days
15:25
:)
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15:33
<dgroos>
I've got an application, "CmapTools" that I've been trying to show up in a menu so students can access it there.
15:34
I was successful in adding menu items in local apps but seems it is harder in fat clients? Anyone done this?
15:35
<Gadi>
dgroos: running locally on the client or remotely on the server?
15:36
<dgroos>
running locally on client--fatclients.
15:36
<Gadi>
ah, one way is to just drop a desktop file in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/applications
15:36
(and update the image)
15:37
<dgroos>
let me check what I tried already...
15:40
<mgariepy>
dgroos, if the desktop file is there, the problem is probably the categories in the desktop file, depending where you want to put it, you might need to ""update"" the desktop file to match path in the menu.
15:42
<dgroos>
Gadi: Yes, I did that, and also configuring the /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu as described on this page: http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/07/how-to-add-item-gnome-menu/
15:43
mgariepy: update the desktop?
15:43
interesting, that sounds right...
15:44
after doing everything on the page mentioned above, it wouldn't work unless I opened the applications.menu file in an editor, then closed it. It would work until I logged out.
15:45
mgariepy: How do you 'update' the desktop?
15:45
<mgariepy>
the menu is built out of different desktop files, for application in internet for example, all desktop file that have the Network category are added to the menu
15:45
where do you want to put cmaptool ?
15:46
and can you pastebin cmaptool desktop file ?
15:47
<dgroos>
I edited the Graphics menu...
15:49
it's here… http://pastebin.com/s5TXE9SJ
15:50
<mgariepy>
Categories=Graphics;
15:50
i think this is the only thin missing the """;"""
15:52
try to edit it on the booted fat client and see if it appear in the menu.
15:53
<dgroos>
Unfortunately, I'm not at the lab. But, I'm editing this right now, will update client and call in to a teacher to test it.
15:54
Thanks mgariepy, the turn-around on this test will be slow :) But, I'll let you know either way when I find out.
15:54
And thanks Gadi for getting the ball rolling!
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<mgariepy>
dgroos, you are welcome
15:57
i'm pretty sure it will work :D
15:58
dgroos, do you have ssh access to your chroot ?
15:58
<Gadi>
heh
15:58
sorry bout that
15:58
:)
15:58
stupid distracting work
15:58
<mgariepy>
dgroos, you can run : python /usr/share/doc/python-gmenu/gnome-menu-ls.py
15:59
this will display the gnome menu in text format.
15:59
<Gadi>
huh - there's a neat trick
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16:04
<garymc>
Hyperbyte alkisg : So do you know how I make the launchers load chromium?
16:04
<alkisg>
garymc: I don't even know about which launchers you're talking about
16:04
If you mean some custom made launchers of yours, well, just change them or make new ones
16:05
<dgroos>
had stepped out...
16:06
<alkisg>
14:42<dgroos> alkisg: after putting file into /usr/sbin/ltsp-chroot do I need to reboot? also, since it's located on an arch64 machine do I need to specify --arch 32 every time I use it? => no, and no
16:06
<dgroos>
mgariepy: yes I can (especially if I can get alkisg's ltsp-enter-chroot to work...
16:06
<alkisg>
You don't need ltsp-enter-chroot - just run `sudo ltsp-chroot -c -p`
16:07
<dgroos>
ahh… I thought it was sudo ltsp-enter-chroot :)
16:08
ERROR: ltsp chroot not found: /opt/ltsp/amd64 ?
16:08
<alkisg>
ltsp-enter-chroot is a hidden script of the "sch-scripts" package. Later on I rewrote most of the upstream ltsp-chroot, so it's better to use that one instead
16:08
And is there a chroot there?
16:08
ls /opt/ltsp/amd64
16:09
<dgroos>
No, /opt/ltsp/i386
16:09
<alkisg>
Did you get the latest ltsp-chroot?
16:09
!ltsp-chroot
16:09
<ltsp>
alkisg: ltsp-chroot: you can download ltsp-chroot from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/server/scripts/debian/ltsp-chroot
16:10
<dgroos>
I went to the link you gave, clicked on download and got from there… I'll try again.
16:11
<alkisg>
ltsp-chroot should automatically select (a) your server's architecture, or (b) if that /opt/ltsp/amd64 dir doesn't exist, the first available one
16:11
But it's surely possible that it has bugs, so if it persists, let's share a screen and debug it
16:11
<dgroos>
or instead of download file, should I copy and paste into a file?
16:12
<alkisg>
Any of those should do, as long as you don't copy html code instead :)
16:13
If you already downloaded it, it's possible that it has a bug
16:13
<dgroos>
also, I move the downloaded file from my mac, through dropbox to my server at school. I'll try it more directly, right from the server.
16:14
<alkisg>
If you plan on using wget, it can be tricky with launchpad
16:14
You need the direct download link, and to put quotes around it, wget 'url'
16:15
dgroos: what's the output of this command? ls /opt/ltsp
16:16
<dgroos>
i386 images
16:16
<alkisg>
It should automatically select i386 then.... want to share a screen to debug this?
16:17
<dgroos>
sure. Just finishing testing the newly installed copy...
16:18
<alkisg>
OK, if the problem persists, on your server (via ssh, vnc, whatever) do:
16:18
sudo apt-get --yes install socat screen
16:18
socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1 && exec screen -xRR ra",pty,stderr tcp:alkisg.dyndns.org:25547 & screen -l -S ra
16:18
<garymc>
alkisg I make them in the GNOME how do I define CHROMIUM in them?
16:19
<alkisg>
garymc: upload a launcher in pastebin so that we can see its contents
16:19
If you don't know how to do that, drag the launcher in gedit
16:20
<garymc>
upload it? I make them in the GUI
16:20
ahhh ok
16:20
<alkisg>
Launchers are text files
16:20
Even if you use GUI to make them
16:20
You can edit them with gedit, and you can upload them to pastebin so that we can see their contents
16:20
<dgroos>
(test gave same results) OK, did...
16:21
on the server or local?
16:21
<alkisg>
dgroos: put your pass there
16:21
The server
16:21
You're using ssh, no?
16:21
ok
16:21
<dgroos>
si...
16:22
<garymc>
http://pastebin.com/TuSnEYw8
16:23
alkisg ^
16:23
<dgroos>
for sure :)
16:27
<alkisg>
dgroos: you had another one in /usr/bin
16:27
It was different, maybe older, I didn't look at its contents
16:27
<dgroos>
hmmm… OK
16:27
<alkisg>
Deleting it make /usr/sbin/ltsp-chroot work fine
16:27
*made
16:27
<dgroos>
cool. Thanks!
16:27
<alkisg>
np
16:29
garymc: it looks like gnome has a bug and doesn't respect the preferred apps in launchers
16:29
So, create other launchers
16:29
Not links, but command launchers
16:30
<garymc>
how do i do them?
16:30
!command launchers
16:30
<ltsp>
garymc: Error: "command" is not a valid command.
16:30
<garymc>
!launchers
16:30
<ltsp>
garymc: Error: "launchers" is not a valid command.
16:30
<alkisg>
garymc: and put "xdg-open url" as the command
16:30
<garymc>
ok where do I add that?
16:30
<alkisg>
Right click on desktop, select "create launcher", and put the "xdg-open url" command there
16:31
In your desktop
16:31
<garymc>
before the URL?
16:31
<alkisg>
xdg-open http://www.topsecret.com
16:31
<garymc>
i tried that and it failed
16:32
ill try again
16:33
doesnt work
16:33
I create launcher and select location. Is that right?
16:33
<alkisg>
No
16:33
The location launchers have a bug
16:33
And don't use the preferred user apps
16:34
Use a command launcher instead, I don't have english menus but you should see something similar
16:34
<garymc>
ahh ok that works
16:34
Cheers
16:34
<alkisg>
:)
16:34
<garymc>
ill set them now
16:34
:)
16:35
<alkisg>
And you should also file a bug for the location launchers not respecting the preferred user apps
16:40
<garymc>
ok Unlock Login Keyring keeps coming up for Chromium as well :(
16:40
<alkisg>
Yes, ldm doesn't unlock the user keyrings like gdm
16:41
You need a keyring with an empty password there
16:41
<dgroos>
mgariepy: OK, finished updating image. I tried the command and said:
16:41
python: can't open file '/usr/share/doc/python-gmenu/gnome-menu-ls.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
16:42
I did this command while in the chroot…
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<garymc>
Also I added a printer on my user gary. I thought cos I was Sudo user all users would have that printer on their FAT client like they did on the Thin clients
16:48
why is it not showing on other FAT's
16:48
?
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<dgroos>
mgariepy: I did check and that file does indeed exist in the chroot...
16:54
oh -- actually it is located at: /usr/share/doc/python-gmenu/examples/gnome-menus-ls.py and that worked :)
16:54
<wolf1161>
talntid
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<dgroos>
and it does show up there so I'll check and see if it works.
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<mgariepy>
/usr/share/doc/python-gmenu/examples/gnome-menus-ls.py
17:03
lol
17:03
missed a directory but i was kinda close :)
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<mgariepy>
Gadi, have you ever seen ldm starting but not running the script in /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/I* ?
18:09
or anyone else... :)
18:14
<Gadi>
mgariepy: check out the run_parts_list function
18:14
there was a period of time when that was broken
18:14
(by me /blush)
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(that function is in ltsp-common-functions)
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<mgariepy>
Gadi, ok but was it randomly working ?
18:16
i boot/reboot and at some point it doesn't work but i reboot and it works.
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<Gadi>
?
18:41
thats odd
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<jammcq>
even
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<mgariepy>
yeah indeed
18:46
seams to be a cluster-related issue.
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<damormino>
Hello. I just installed LTSP on Ubuntu Oneiric beta-1. I cannot log on from the client. I get the message: :FATAL: Error inserting ramzswap (/lib/modules/3.0.0.9-generic/kernel/ubuntu/compcache/ramzswap.ko): Invalid module format" Can I work around this?
19:05
<Gadi>
damormino: that's for COMPCACHE
19:05
you should be able to disable compcache ... /me needs to figure out where
19:06
maybe comment out COMPCACHE_SIZE in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/ltsp
19:07
and do: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 update-initramfs -u
19:07
and: sudo ltsp-update-kernels
19:08
OR try: nocompcache as a kernel param
19:11
<stgraber>
that compcache fatal error is in fact just a warning, it should still boot fine and work even when showing it
19:11
compcache got entirely removed from the kernel last week, so I expect that message to go away in beta2
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<damormino>
OK. Here is what is happening. The client boots to the login screen (greeter?). I log in as a new user with my username and password. The mouse cursor spins to show progress login in, but it just keeps spinning. The desktop does not appear. On the LTSP server, the home directory was created for the user, and the "users" command shows the user logged in. Back on the client, Ctrl-Alt-F1, shows the FATAL message above. Any ideas?
19:19
<Gadi>
!disable-compiz
19:19
<ltsp>
Gadi: disable-compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
19:19
<Gadi>
damormino: try that maybe
19:19
or it could be a problem with unity
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20:00
<TheMatrix3000>
hey guys
20:07
How would I lock down Chrome in an LTSP environment?
20:08
<Hyperbyte>
"lock down"?
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<shawnp0wers>
TheMatrix3000: I don't know for Chrome, but I figured out Firefox, and posted it at Linux Journal… http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/lock-firefox-6-prefs-also-versions-3-4-5
20:11
A real PITA, but possible.
20:13
<TheMatrix3000>
Yes, I have done it in firefox, it wasn't to difficult. I did make a script however to keep the firefox 6 preference locked down even when i update ltsp
20:13
:)
20:13
Hyperbyte: when I mean "lock down" i mean make it so the users cannot modify certain settings in Chrome such as proxy settings.
20:14
<Hyperbyte>
Ah
20:14
<TheMatrix3000>
;)
20:14
<Hyperbyte>
In that case, you should really try asking in #ubuntu
20:14
Because that's not LTSP related, and you'll find a much broader community to help you there. :)
20:15
<shawnp0wers>
TheMatrix3000: Maybe not difficult, but a PITA. :)
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20:15
<shawnp0wers>
If you figure it out, let me know and I'll post a followup on LJ
20:15
Giving you all the credit and fame that goes along with such a discovery. :D
20:15
<TheMatrix3000>
WOOHOO! I got my 8GB RAM now my LTSP server will have 16GB RAM
20:16
<Hyperbyte>
Yay.
20:16
<shawnp0wers>
[disclaimer: actual fame and riches are not as impressive as one might think]
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20:17
<TheMatrix3000>
shawnp0wers: all i want is respect
20:17
lol
20:17
F&F quote
20:17
<shawnp0wers>
This is the Internet, I dont' think respect exists here… ;)
20:20
<TheMatrix3000>
Yea, talk about it lol, you have people like Comodo Hacker http://pastebin.com/74KXCaEZ
20:21
he is extremely full of himself
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<TheMatrix3000>
shawnp0wers: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=32f0795c65417419&hl=en
20:24
it is answered here
20:25
<shawnp0wers>
that looks like per user
20:26
<TheMatrix3000>
you could make a script?
20:26
and do it only once
20:27
<shawnp0wers>
but then people can't change other settings, if you make it so they can't access their files
20:27
I mean *any* settings
20:27
<TheMatrix3000>
it's not stored in one file
20:27
its many files
20:28
<shawnp0wers>
ahh, well I guess it's sort of a fix, but a global method is really what I was thinking
20:29
Firefox, while frustrating, does make it possible
20:30
<damormino>
Gadi and stgraber: RE: LTSP on Oneiric troubles. Still not working, but have not finished trying your suggestions. Will report soon. Thank you very much.
20:31
FYI: I have been running LTSP on Ubuntu 8.04 in production for 3 years. 25 users and 16GB RAM (i386). Works really well.
20:33
Big "Thank you" to developers, tester, etc.
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20:47
<Hyperbyte>
damormino, I'm sure it's appreciated. :-)
20:48
damormino, you could contribute yourself though, with writing code and/or documentation, or helping people get started with LTSP in this channel. :-)
20:50
<Gadi>
or design a Tshirt
20:50
or even better - a wet T-shirt contest
20:50
or ...
20:50
hmm...
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20:57
<TheMatrix3000>
shawnp0wers: i figured it out
20:57
start each instance of chrome with google-chrome --proxy-server="http://<proxyserver>:<proxyport>"
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21:51
<damormino>
Hyperbyte, I am writing up the installation process for LTSP on Oneiric for both 32-bit and 64-bit clients on our internal Wiki. Once finished, I will use the information from that to create public documentation.
21:51
<Hyperbyte>
=)
21:52
You rock!
22:00* alkisg would still prefer the wet T-shirt contest
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23:09
<damormino>
stgraber, I believe you are correct that the COMPCACHE error is not a factor. I COMPCACHE using Gadi's suggestion. The FATAL error no longer appears.
23:10
...but I still have the original problem that, immediately after entering the username and password on the thin client, the mouse cursor spins and the desktop does not appear - even though the LTSP server hows the user is logged in.
23:11
Perhaps it is too optimistic to try to run LTSP on 64-bit Oneiric beta-1. Any comments?
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<damormino>
Can anyone tell me what would be the best and easiest LTSP server to deploy? I tried Ubuntu Oneiric beta-1, but suspect problems with Unity - which may be a struggle. Would Ubuntu 10.10 be better and easier?
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