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Channel log from 22 May 2007   (all times are UTC)

00:14
<Faithful>
mistik1 you about?
00:14
<mistik1>
Faithful: yea
00:15
<Faithful>
I can give it another go now
00:15
does it configure Nat?
00:16
<mistik1>
sure
00:16
killerwall autoconf
00:16
that will setup a default /etc/firewall.conf and a blank /etc/killerwall.acl
00:17
You should still validate the files created
00:17
<Faithful>
is the one on the web the latest?
00:18
<mistik1>
its the latest I had before I lost the old site
00:18
<Faithful>
:(
00:18
Jim sent me one before that worked just fine
00:20
mistik1: still does the same thing... where do I begin to debug
00:20
<mistik1>
what is /bin/sh
00:20
<Faithful>
/bin/sh -> dash
00:21
Ok fixed thanks
00:21
<mistik1>
np
00:23
<Faithful>
just run in rc.local?
00:23
<mistik1>
it should work fine as a service by itself
00:24
<Faithful>
is there a howto on that?
00:24
<mistik1>
there is a README
00:24
that's all you need
00:25
<Faithful>
ok
00:25
<mistik1>
just drop it into /etc/init.d and use your system tools to add it to whatever runlevel you start with
00:26
run it without any args and it should print all supported arguments
00:33
<Faithful>
thanks mistik1 for a cool script
00:33
btw, hows things... we haven't talked for an eternity
00:44
<mistik1>
Thinks have been educational to say the least
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02:25
<Nikopoika>
i propably have asked this before but my client seems to freeze during boot.. with the following text "eth0: setting half-duplex"
02:25
and then nothing happens
02:27
<Jenna>
Nikopoika. load up the right NIC driver
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03:05
<Nikopoika>
Jenna: it worked, thx
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03:32
<ikabot>
Hi everyone.
03:32
The back of my ears are reasonably wet when it comes to terminal services.
03:33
<Rimas>
Hi! Is there someone from Ukraine?
03:33
<ikabot>
It it possible to run a thin client that connects to its own Xen virtual server?
03:34
<vanya>
Rimas, Hi, I am
03:34
<ikabot>
So that a user can think that their desktop is on their machine, but all the processing is running on a Xen server?
03:37
<vagrantc>
ikabot: what do you gain by that
03:37
?
03:43
<ikabot>
The client hardware is cheaper.
03:43
This is for a net cafe.
03:43
I also want people to be able to bring their own VM images.
03:43
<vagrantc>
but ... why do you want it in a Xen server?
03:43
<ikabot>
On a USB dongle.
03:43
<vagrantc>
oh.
03:43
crazy. ok...
03:44
<ikabot>
I don't know enough about Xen.
03:44
So maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.
03:44
But I want to be able to modify the terminal.
03:44
<vagrantc>
ikabot: i guess, describe what you are trying to accomplish rather than the specific technologies
03:44
<ikabot>
It's open source so that should be possible,.
03:44
I want to add access control and billing to the terminal.
03:45
Sure.
03:45
I want the terminal to control access and billing. So it will track how much time they have spent and how much data they've transferred.
03:47
<vagrantc>
i don't think there's (much) existing software to do that at the moment ...
03:47
<ikabot>
But they must use a fresh VM image for each session.
03:48
And if they want, they can use their own VM image.
03:48
That will give them a lot more confidence.
03:48
In my experience, people don't really trust machines in net cafes.
03:48
<vagrantc>
this sure ain't your typical internet cafe
03:48
<ikabot>
Yeah, my cafe will be better.
03:49
I'm just in the planning stages now though.
03:49
Checking to see if it will be feasible.
03:49
<vagrantc>
well, the additional trust gained would be minimal, even if the virtual machine was fresh each time
03:49
<ikabot>
So I'm investigating Xen and LTSP as possible tech solutions.
03:50
But people being able to bring their own images.
03:50
That would be good.
03:50
<vagrantc>
i guess random people off the street wouldn't be able to start key loggers and such ... but you'd still have to trust the people running the internet cafe
03:50
<ikabot>
Yes, but even that trust need is less if you can bring your own image on a USB stick.
03:50
<vagrantc>
bringing in their own images would likely be a major support headache ...
03:50
<ikabot>
True.
03:51
Do you think it's feasible though?
03:51
<vagrantc>
no, because if i'm running a virtual machine on someone else's host machine, they have total control over my virtual machine ...
03:51
<ikabot>
I didn't think of that.
03:51
<vagrantc>
feasible, sure.
03:52
<ikabot>
I guess they would have to trust me.
03:52
But as a big business, I have a reputation to maintain.
03:52
It's the people off the street that are taken out of the equation.
03:52
<vagrantc>
how many people are going to understand the whole virtual machine thing who wouldn't just have a laptop of their own?
03:53
<ikabot>
I'd sell the virtual machines preloaded onto sticks in my cafe.
03:53
And those who don't understand will trust me more than those that do.
03:53
<vagrantc>
heh
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03:54
<vagrantc>
ikabot: well, with an LTSP5 implementation, it shouldn't be much more difficult than setting it up on a standalone workstation.
03:54
<ikabot>
:)
03:55
Okay. Thanks for the advice. I think I'm on the right track tech wise for what I want to do.
03:55
<vagrantc>
the last time i tried setting up XEN on an LTSP client i had a little trouble with getting all the right writeable directories
03:55
but that's totally configurable
03:55
<ikabot>
And maybe I could make a contribution to LTSP with my billing code.
03:56
But it is possible for a Xen server to run a vm off a USB stick connected to a remote client?
03:57
Because my whole "bring your stick" scheme won't work otherwise.
03:57
<vagrantc>
though some simpler billing system might be more widely useful :P
03:58
ikabot: not without some ugly, ugly things happening
03:58
<ikabot>
What I have in mind is simple. It will track how much time you've been using the terminal and how much data has been transferred.
03:58
Could I not make the stick available to the server via SMB?
03:58
<vagrantc>
well, a billing option not dependent on XEN is more what i meant
03:59
ikabot: at which point, you would loose the trust of anyone who had a clue
03:59
ikabot: you'd be better off running each thin client as a XEN server ... but then it increases your requirements for the cliens
03:59
clients
04:01
the whole "bring your own XEN image" idea is the most complicated part... no quite as bad if the user merely logs into a new XEN instance on a server ...
04:03
<ikabot>
Perhaps I could roll out the "use my images" option first.
04:03
And experiment once I'm up and running.
04:03
Thanks for the advice.
04:03
I'll be back later.
04:03
Need to reboot though.
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05:44
<envite>
¡Hola a todos desde España en campaña!
05:44
Hello all from Spain!
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05:46
<ikabot>
Buenos dias, envite.
05:46
Como esta Usted?
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07:09
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi all
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07:16
<jammcq>
g'morning
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07:17
<vagrantc>
jammcq: buenas tardes
07:17
<jammcq>
vagrantc: madrid ?
07:18
<vagrantc>
jammcq: si.
07:18
i haven't really moved around much
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07:24
<cliebow_>
anyonr big on bogons in arpwatch?
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08:08
<cliebow_>
jam!!
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08:19
<cliebow_>
using wireshark what should the print command be besides lpr?
08:26
<yopla>
hello! Don't really understand question. Want to analyse network trafic with print commands?
08:28
<jammcq>
cliebow_: using wireshark, just watch for raw data on port 9100
08:30
<yopla>
or perhaps you just want to print some warshark output?
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08:33
<jammcq>
hmm, maybe that's what he's asking
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08:36
<yopla>
lol! lpr -Pprintername?
08:36
<cliebow_>
i figured a way around it..i was having a snior moment what to use in lieu of lpr to print output from wireshark...in the old rh i used kprinter --stdin
08:37
looking at my cleartext password from a citrix login as we speak....8~(
08:38
heh
08:39
<yopla>
citrix use RDP?
08:39
<cliebow_>
ica
08:39
<vagrantc>
ah, security through blind hope
08:40
<yopla>
could it be ssh tunneled?
08:41
<cliebow_>
it is web..so perhaps https?
08:42
<Gad1>
morning, all
08:42
<yopla>
you're talking about citrix web interface?
08:44
<cliebow_>
yep
08:44
Gadi!!
08:45
<yopla>
http is sure cleartext
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08:48
<yopla>
what os your client?
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08:52
<cliebow_>
xubuntu
08:56
<yopla>
what port use cititrix server?
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09:02
<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:03
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: heya :)
09:03
<sbalneav>
Hey vagrantc!
09:03
Was doing some hacking on the weekend on LDM
09:04
Started to play around with python expect, to add in support for password expiry
09:04
<jammcq>
!s
09:04
<ltspbot>
jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:04
<sbalneav>
Morning jammcq!
09:04
<jammcq>
isn't the python version of LDM gonna be replaced by a C version?
09:04
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: better you than me :)
09:05
<sbalneav>
jammcq: No, the greeter's going to be replaced with a C version.
09:05
<jammcq>
ah
09:05
<sbalneav>
There's two bits to ldm
09:05
<jammcq>
k
09:05
sbalneav: check your private msg
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09:28
<cliebow_>
sbalneav, you used active pytihon in the "other" operating system?
09:29
<sbalneav>
Have I used python in Windows, you mean?
09:29
<cliebow_>
yes (in small letters)
09:29
<sbalneav>
Hard for me to do, seeing as how I haven't used windows since 1999 :)
09:29
So, no.
09:30
<cliebow_>
heh:i thought as much..
09:31
<yopla>
LDM is actually python daemon?
09:31
<vagrantc>
yes
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09:36
<yopla>
ok
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09:46
<sbalneav>
Hey ogra-classmate
09:47
<ogra-classmate>
heya
09:47
<highvoltage>
hello sbalneav and ogra-classmate
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09:48
<highvoltage>
hello vagrantc!
09:49
<vagrantc>
wow.
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10:01
<yopla>
I had a look on LTSP 5. This is a very good rethinking of the project
10:03
<sbalneav>
We like it :)
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10:03
<vagrantc>
could be better
10:04
<ogra-classmate>
make it better :P
10:04* vagrantc tries
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10:58
<markgreene>
When I run update-ssh-keys. It fails. That is the only solution I have seen for the problem of getting a login screen but always being dropped back to it when attempting to login
10:59
any suggestions?
11:00
<ogra>
check ~/.xsession-errors of that user
11:01
<jammcq>
well, first thing I'd do is tell us what you mean by "it fails"
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11:13
<markgreene>
jammcq: First let me start from the beggining
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11:14
<markgreene>
I am running centOS 5. I downloaded the Ubuntu 6.10 tarball, as well as ltsp-update-kernels and ssh-keys
11:16
When I boot a thin client I get an Ubuntu login screen where, when I type in a username and password it goes black for a few seconds, and the kicks me back to the login screen with no errors or anyuthing
11:16
<jammcq>
yeah, that much I get. you said you get an error running update-ssh-keys
11:16
but you didn't say what the error is
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11:20
<markgreene>
jammcq: Here is the output of the script. I am running it from /usr/local/sbin of my CENTOS system.
11:20
/usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 6: tempfile: command not found
11:20
/usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
11:20
/usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
11:20
/usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
11:20
/usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
11:20
/usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
11:20
/usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect
11:20
Setting up ssh_known_hosts in:
11:20
<CiNzAs>
:D
11:20
<markgreene>
/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
11:20
install: missing destination file operand after `/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts'
11:20
Try `install --help' for more information.
11:20
<jammcq>
plz don't paste long things here in the channel. that's what the pastebot is for
11:20
!pastebot
11:20
<ltspbot>
jammcq: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
11:21
<markgreene>
thanks - sorry for my ignorance
11:21
<jammcq>
but, based on your errors, I'd say it prolly has alot to do with why you can't log in
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11:23
<markgreene>
ogra: I don't have an .Xsession folder in the users home
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11:23
<markgreene>
that might explain some things
11:24
<Gad1>
markgreene: since ltsp-update-sshkeys failed, you will need to add your server's public key to the chroot's known_hosts
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11:24
<CiNzAs>
markgreene: do it
11:24
<Gad1>
ie, take the contents of: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub and add it to /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
11:24
<CiNzAs>
markgreene: open /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys
11:25
<Gad1>
or fix the script
11:25
<CiNzAs>
markgreene: and change output=$(tempfile) to output=xpto
11:25
run the script, and then try to login
11:26
anyone as ltsp5 running in a thin client with a sis7019 onboard sound ?
11:27
<markgreene>
CiNzAs: That fixed the errors being thrown, but I still cannot login. Same issue
11:28
One question. Should I me using usernames and passwords from the host machine, or should I be chrooting into the ubuntu system and adduser?
11:29
<ogra>
you ssh into the host machine, so all user maintenance should take place there
11:29
the thin client doesnt need users to start an X server and ldm
11:29
<CiNzAs>
markgreene: cat /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i38/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
11:29
does it have the sshe server pub keys ?
11:30
<markgreene>
yes - it outputs a bunch of garble
11:30
<Gad1>
ogra: I found a lil buggy in the new greeter you sent me that I am trying to squash
11:30
<ogra>
tell me about it
11:31
<Gad1>
ogra: it seems to not exit properly and instead the gtk process goes zombie
11:31
<markgreene>
Could this have to do with the fact that I don't have a graphical enviroment on my server?
11:31
<Gad1>
which screws up the ldm script
11:31
<ogra>
as long as it spawns a subshell for the ssh session thats normal
11:31
<CiNzAs>
markgreene: reboot :P
11:31
<Gad1>
ogra: doesnt happen with python greeter
11:31
<ogra>
markgreene, you need a desktop
11:31
oh207, weird
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11:32
<markgreene>
orga: I need something like KDE or Gnome?
11:32
installed on the HOST machine
11:32
<ogra>
markgreene, ldm executes: ssh -X user@server /etc/X11/Xsession
11:32
on the server
11:33
the output of this is redirected t the thin client screen
11:33
*to
11:33
so you need some kind of Xsession on the server ...
11:33
<markgreene>
ok thats my problem then
11:33
thanks for the help
11:33
<ogra>
while its not necessary to have X installed or configured you need a window manager or desktop session
11:34
usually ~/.xsession-errors tells you about that after a failed login attempt
11:34
<CiNzAs>
i guess nobody uses sis7019 module ..
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<Gad1>
ogra: so the manifestation of that bug is that the greeter does not respawn when the user logs out
11:36
because its already zombied
11:36
<ogra>
happens fine here, weird
11:36
<Gad1>
hmm...
11:36
<ogra>
i see a zombie as well, but that vanishes once the ssh session returned
11:37
how its supposed to be
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<Gad1>
ah, so it stays zombie until ssh ends and then it goes away?
11:37
<ogra>
yep
11:38
<Gad1>
hmm... maybe ssh is not ending properly
11:38
<ogra>
its dead, but still has children tat are executed
11:38
<Gad1>
thats more likely
11:38
<ogra>
yeah, check on the client console
11:38
you should see the ssh process hanging around
11:38
<Gad1>
ok
11:39
<ogra>
and very likely its dbus or some dbus using app that hangs the session on the server side
11:39
<Gad1>
btw, I bzr'd the patch I had
11:39
<ogra>
i already ran it for some days here, seems fine to include
11:39
<Gad1>
https://code.launchpad.net/~gideon/ltsp/gadi-ldm-mods-ltsp
11:39
ah, good
11:40
vagrantc mentioned that you had some issues with it working
11:40
he prodded me to bzr it
11:40
;)
11:41
<ogra-classmate>
but currently this baby has all my attention, can you mail me the url ?
11:41
the classmate stuff will likely keep me busy until the end of the week
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<fxrsliberty>
jammcq: how you ding?
11:51
<irule>
I know you guys use a log of squid, please help for a quick restart I killed squids processes and deleted /var/run/squid.pid but now it will not start! what can I do?
11:57
<sutula>
irule: What distribution are you running? How are you trying to start it? What error message are you seeing?
12:01
<irule>
opensuse with service squid start and the message is blurry, just saying that it will not start
12:03
<sutula>
irule: Has it worked before, or are you trying to start it for the first time?
12:04
<irule>
yes its been working for months perfectly
12:05
<sutula>
irule: I don't use suse, but do use squid under Debian (and it's working for me)
12:06
irule: Since it's a little off-topic here, I'd suggest asking on #squid, or I notice there's a number of #opensuse channels, some in other languages as well
12:06
probably someone there could be of more help
12:07
<jammcq>
also, go look in /var/log
12:07
there's certainly a logfile that contains the error message
12:07
<Gad1>
so, I noticed yesterday that the loopback interface is not brought up on feisty's chroot on boot...
12:08
if a guy were to want that brought up, what is the ubuntu way of doing that?
12:08
<ogra-classmate>
Gad1: upgraded or freshly built ?
12:08
<Gad1>
freshly built
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<ogra-classmate>
the fresh ones should add it to /etc7
12:08
ERGH
12:08
/etc/network/interfaces
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<Gadi>
ah, yes - mine is empty
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<ogra>
ogra@laptop:~/Desktop$ grep lo /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/network/interfaces
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# The loopback network interface
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auto lo
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iface lo inet loopback
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weird
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<Gadi>
which package adds it?
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<ogra>
ltsp-build-client
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<Gadi>
ah
12:09
ok
12:09
this may have been 'freshly built' pre-release
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<ogra>
ogra@laptop:~/Desktop$ grep loopback /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/*|grep default
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/usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/030-loopback: # create default loopback entry
12:10
check your ltsp-server package is at 5.0.7
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<Gadi>
it is
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<ogra>
not sure when it was added, but surely after the switch to a 5.0 version number
12:11
well, if you built the chroot from a prerelease it wont be feisty :)
12:11
<irule>
Starting WWW-proxy squid startproc: exit status of parent of /usr/sbin/squid: 1
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failed
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servidor-linux:~ #
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<Gadi>
yes, yes - wise guy
12:12
i thought you were busy! ;)
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<ogra>
i am, but i like to relax my fingers from the classmate keyboard from time to time ;)
12:13
its simply not built for fingers plder than 15
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*older
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<Q-FUNK>
thank goodness, they didn't call it a playmate
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<markgreene>
where can I see on the server the ssh request from a thin client?
12:27
what log?
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<ogra>
auth
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<markgreene>
I don't have a /var/log/auth
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<ogra>
auth.log
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<markgreene>
none
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file - folder - link : nothing
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<ogra>
no idea where centos stores that then
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<mhterres>
hi all
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<Gadi>
markgreene: try /var/log/messages
12:30
<markgreene>
Gadi: Ogra: Found it: /var/log/secure
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<ogra>
ah
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<markgreene>
Well I am going an install of KDE, Gnome, and X Windows system
12:31
When that is done I will have to get it setup and things should work
12:32
this is going to be so cool!
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<Guaraldo>
markgreene: :-D
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<ogra>
you shouldnt need X window system :)
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<markgreene>
ogra: is that so? I just assumed. Once it is all done downloading - should it boot up to a login screen? or do I need to config something?
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<ogra>
nope, should wor out of the box
12:37
but X is installed with the thin client tarball, you only need the one on the client
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<markgreene>
ogra: so I just need to install KDE or Gnome?
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<ogra>
right
12:48* kaminski-ltsp-br is away: work
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<dan__t>
Howdy.
14:40
Anyone doing much work lately with LTSP under FC7?
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<vagrantc>
dan__t: if so, they're not present here much
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<dan__t>
Noted.
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<vagrantc>
we'd love to see it, as i know it will result in a better LTSP to have more distros involed
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involved
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<pem725>
I have quick question about sound (ltsp 5)
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<vagrantc>
pem725: what distro?
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<pem725>
ubuntu
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6.10
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does my server need a sound card or can I use the dummy driver?
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<vagrantc>
server doesn't need a sound card
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<pem725>
excellent.
14:48
thanks.
14:48
I guess another question logically follows. How does the server pass sound commands to the client if the server does not have a sound card? Dummy?
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<vagrantc>
it used a network sound protocol ... for that version, esound ... in ubuntu feisty, pulseaudio
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<pem725>
ah, got it.
14:49
thanks greatly vagrantc. Much appreciated.
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<vagrantc>
thanks for asking easy questions :)
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<vagrantc>
sometimes people come in here with all sorts of challenging ones :)
14:50
<pem725>
my pleasure.
14:51
btw, I have 10 clients setup in my research lab using ltsp and I cannot believe more researchers don't use this great software.
14:51
I do no hardware maintenance. Great stuff.
14:51
<vagrantc>
spread the word :)
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<pem725>
thanks again. I'll get off the line and spread the word.
14:51
cheers.
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<vagrantc>
man, that pem725 was so easy to please :)
14:52
i was expecting something like ... "so, how do i configure sound, and i followed all the instructions and it doesn't work"
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<sutula>
vagrantc: You're used to me saying sound doesn't work...but I also echo pem725's sentiments...It is *great* not to have to administer a half-dozen Windoze boxes at home...I'll keep using it and keep working on the remaining problems :)
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<vagrantc>
sutula: glad to have folks like you too :)
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<zombi1>
Hey Everyone, is it possible to run LTSP over the Internet with decent response times? I'm thinking I'd like to publish a desktop to my brother's house so I can manage it for him. Both of us are running common high-speed cable connections.
15:07
Is this worth looking into or should I run a NoMachine session?
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<vagrantc>
just go with nomachine or vnc or something. there's nothing LTSP specific in what you want to do
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<zombi1>
thanks for the quick advice - have a good day
15:10
<vagrantc>
LTSP is really just a collection of protocols, typically TFTP, NFS, DHCP and XDMCP or SSH X11 Forwarding
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<Gadi>
jammcq: ping
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<jammcq>
Gadi: pong
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<Gadi>
i bought my tix to msp - would you believe it?
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almost a month early
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<jammcq>
Gadi: wow, not 30 seconds ago, I bought my plane ticket
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like, I clicked 'accept', and got a ping from you :)
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<Gadi>
heh
15:15
Im flying Sun Country Airlines
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:)
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<jammcq>
i'm doing Northwest from Flint
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<Gadi>
hopefully they have planes...
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<jammcq>
and the planes have wings
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<Gadi>
well, that wasnt in the brochure
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;)
15:22
hey, I'm off to pack for the Cheesecake holiday...
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see you guys on Friday
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<jammcq>
cheezecake ?
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<jammcq>
mmmmm
15:22
<Gadi>
mmm indeed
15:22
cheers
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<jammcq>
GodFather: hey
15:36
<GodFather>
hey, Now and Forever!!! hee hee
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<jammcq>
heh
15:38
<GodFather>
ya
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got to go, ta ta!
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<jammcq>
ciao
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<sahil>
hi im having trouble loading hte usb-uhci module
17:48
any ideas why?
17:56
thats no longer a problem but when it tries to load x the screen kinda blinks and then stays black
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<sahil>
now monitor is showing input signal out of range
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<floatingman>
813.54 C549i
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<dan__t>
??
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<dan__t>
wordup-
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<PMantis>
For some reason I can't find where to allow another subnet to query my XDMCP server.
20:22
I see no hosts.allow entry for this, no mention in gdm.conf
20:22* PMantis searched wiki, don't see anything obvious
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<jammcq>
GodFather: hey
20:28
PMantis: as long as your routing is correct, you should be fine
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<PMantis>
Hmm, ok
20:29
I'll try tcpdump. :)
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<PMantis>
Hey Jim
21:49
jammcq, It was my firewall... didn't allow the port 6000 reply back to X server
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<jammcq>
heh
21:50
firewalls have been a problem today, eh?
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<mistik1>
jammcq: what's the current server name for mail
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<jammcq>
umm
22:00
dev
22:01
<mistik1>
do I get there from out here with that name?
22:01
<jammcq>
nope
22:01
www.mcquil.com
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<mistik1>
k
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odd
22:05
say Login is disabled by server
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<sahil>
i think i have a problem with using a very old or backwards graphics chip its the sis550
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for example when i start the gentoo live cd i have to give the no frame buffer problem
22:37
could this be preventing me from starting x?
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<sahil>
what are the various xoptions you can pass?
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is there anyway to find the clients xorg.log?
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