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Channel log from 26 March 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<envite>
Hello All from Spain
03:44
Hola a todos desde España
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<vanya>
I have via integrated graphics card on some of my thin clients. but Xorg version bundled with ltsp 4.2 doesn't support this chipset.
04:25
vesa works great, but it sets 60 Hz refresh rate, not more
04:25
any options for me to set higher refresh rate?
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<vanya>
anyone?.
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<randall_nowan>
how can i automount a CD in the WS?
05:54
i mean, locally
05:55
just put a CD on the tray, insert and get it mounted somewhere in the WS tree?
05:56
with LTSP 4.2
05:56
I,ve got LOCAL_STORAGE=Y
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<envite>
I think there is no automounter like that
06:22
but you can play with client's hotplug scipts
06:22
see the usb ones for reference
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<randall_nowan>
i'll take a look
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<cliebow_>
Cripes:all three ubuntu machines are borked...
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<cliebow_>
ogra:got a sec? dpkg --configure -a borks at setting up man-db..any suggestions how to get around it
07:39
whoops..got by it.
07:40
scrollkeeper is borkd..
07:42
<arowanaj>
nån svensk?
07:43
<cliebow_>
reboot...God help
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<arowanaj>
omg, the debian-version are not working on a ubuntu system ?
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<ogra>
arowanaj, it should, even though the debian version is a bit behind ...
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<ogra>
(even though there should be no reason to use the debian version instead of the included ubuntu one)
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<Dorphalsig>
Hello
08:33
<cliebow_>
lo!
08:33
<Dorphalsig>
I'm trying to get LTSP 5 running in FC4 (using icevm), however, the clients never load X and when I try to do a startx at the server (just to test X is working) I get this error: R128(0): No DFP Detected
08:35
can anybody throw any bone at me so I can fix this?
08:36
<ogra>
startx on the server would give you no info at all about the client ...
08:37
how did you install ltsp5 on rh ? did you use one of the tarballs ? if so, which one ?
08:37
<Dorphalsig>
tarball of ubuntu
08:37
<ogra>
edgy or feisty ?
08:37
<Dorphalsig>
feisty
08:38
<ogra>
ok
08:38
what do you see last on the client when it boots ? do you get a shell ? any error message ?
08:39
<Dorphalsig>
I just get the big X with a grey background
08:39
<cliebow_>
ah ha!
08:39
so xdmcp is not enabled
08:39
<ogra>
you didnt fiddle with lts.conf, did you ?
08:39
<Dorphalsig>
no, not yet
08:39
I did uninstall X and reinstalled it again
08:39
:P
08:39
<ogra>
cliebow, it shouldnt use any xdmcp
08:39
<cliebow_>
yeah.. i tought of that
08:40
<ogra>
but the default background is black if ldm is used ... not grey
08:41
<Dorphalsig>
actually... hold on lemme check my dhcpd.conf, cuz I have ltsp 4.2 and 5
08:41
cuz I could be messing with your heads
08:41
<ogra>
aha
08:43
<Dorphalsig>
:$
08:43
"/opt/ltsp-4.2/i386"
08:43
<ogra>
:)
08:43
so there is your fix ;)
08:44
<Dorphalsig>
hehehehs orry
08:44
lemme try 5 and lets see what comes up
08:44
cuz I still have the werid message at my server
08:44
<ogra>
ltsp5 doesnt need X on the server ... it uses ssh ... all you need is the xlibs and a desktop session
08:45
(and indeed the openssh server)
08:48
<Dorphalsig>
ok... ubuntu screen is up (takes forever to load)
08:49
Now I get the login screen
08:50
I type in my username and it tries to log in
08:50
but then takes me back to the login screen
08:51
for a second I can see the black background iwth the X on it
08:51
<cliebow_>
so wouldntyou want to run ltsp-update-sshkeys..if login is a prob
08:51
<Dorphalsig>
I think I did
08:52
ok now its done... should I reboot the thin client?
08:53
<cliebow_>
cant hoit 8)
08:54
<Dorphalsig>
Ok, rebooted the thing
08:54
and the same saaad saaad story
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<Dorphalsig>
cant get past the login screen
08:56
<cliebow_>
Dorphalsig, any logs you can watch server side to help?
08:57
<Dorphalsig>
Mar 26 08:52:16 ltsp sshd(pam_unix)[21209]: session opened for user root by (uid=0)
08:57
thats what I get on /var/log/messages
08:57
<cliebow_>
how a bout a regular user?
08:57
<Dorphalsig>
Mar 26 08:55:41 ltsp sshd(pam_unix)[21338]: session opened for user call2 by (uid=0)
08:58
<cliebow_>
afraid that is an ogra question at this point
08:58
<Dorphalsig>
ogra?
08:58
:P
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<ogra>
Dorphalsig, check .xsession-errors in the users home
09:00
<Dorphalsig>
[root@ltsp call2]# tail .xsession-errors
09:00
Couldn't establish a connection to localhost:9202: IO::Socket::INET: connect: Co nnection refused
09:00
<ogra>
and check that /etc/X11/Xsession exists and is executable, thats the default session on debian based systems, might be RH stores that differently
09:00
<Dorphalsig>
'/usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
09:00
<ogra>
oh
09:00
seems X11Forwarding is switched off in your ssh server
09:01
check the settings
09:01
<Dorphalsig>
X11Forwarding yes
09:02* vagrantc suspects /etc/X11/Xsession isn't present
09:02
<cliebow_>
it is like /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
09:02
<Dorphalsig>
rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Mar 23 12:28 Xsession -> xdm/Xsession
09:03
<ogra>
xdm sounds wrong ...
09:04
<Dorphalsig>
I see one in that dir
09:05
What I cant seem to find is the Xorg executable
09:06
X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg
09:06
<vagrantc>
the xdm one might work, if it's generic enough
09:06
originally, ldm used gdm's Xsession file...
09:07
Dorphalsig: this is on the server?
09:08
<Dorphalsig>
yes
09:08
<vagrantc>
that shouldn't be a problem, then.
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<Dorphalsig>
then what could it be?
09:27
<ogra>
can you do: ssh -X user@server xterm
09:27
from a different machine running X ?
09:27
<Dorphalsig>
SURE
09:27
ack
09:27
sure
09:28
<ogra>
does it start an xterm ?
09:29
<Dorphalsig>
says DISPLAY not set
09:29
<ogra>
so fix your ssh server, something is wrong with the X forwarding
09:30
(you did the above from an xterm, right ?)
09:30
<Dorphalsig>
just did the above for Xterm on another machine
09:30
and it works
09:30
<ogra>
aha
09:31
hmm
09:31
then its fine on the ssh side
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<Dorphalsig>
so... what should I check next?
09:33
<ogra>
can you check that /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts contains an enrty for your interface ?
09:33
(might not be i386 if you took the tarball)
09:33
<Dorphalsig>
for my interface? like the client?
09:33
it doesnt
09:34
<ogra>
no for each of the interfaces of the server
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<ogra>
i.e. if you have twop NICs in there there should be four entries, one with IP and one with DNS entry for each interface
09:35
<Dorphalsig>
actually I have one interface and I see three entries
09:35
ltsp ssh-dss
09:35
<ogra>
ok
09:35
<Dorphalsig>
ltsp ssh-rsa
09:35
<ogra>
is the currently used IP in there ?
09:35
<Dorphalsig>
yes
09:35
<ogra>
ok, then this is fine as well
09:36
i wonder why it cant connct to $DISPLAY
09:36
<Dorphalsig>
nah
09:36
just found out why
09:36
it was a shell inside another shell, realized it after
09:38
just redid the ssh thingy and worked
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<Dorphalsig>
what has not worked is the login :(
09:43
I still cant get past the login screen
09:43
<vagrantc>
have you set LDM_REMOTECMD ?
09:43
in lts.conf
09:43
<Dorphalsig>
no
09:43
<vagrantc>
does /etc/X11/Xsession exist?
09:43
<ogra>
try setting it to xterm (with full path)
09:44
<Dorphalsig>
its a link to /etc/xdm/Xsession
09:44
<ogra>
vagrantc, i think iots a link to xdm/Xsession (as i understood it)
09:45
<vagrantc>
hmmm..
09:45
executable?
09:45
<Dorphalsig>
yes
09:46
Xsession -> xdm/Xsession
09:46
:P
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<vagrantc>
Dorphalsig: try setting in lts.conf: LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/xterm (or whereever your xterm binary is)
09:47
<ogra>
try adding LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/xterm to your lts.conf for a test ... if that starts properly yopu know something is wonky with your Xsession
09:47
<vagrantc>
yeah!
09:47
<ogra>
tsk, i'm to slow today :)
09:48
<Dorphalsig>
ok... ubuntu loading screen
09:49
l oooooooo aaaaa dddddd iiiiiiiii nnnn ggggg
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<Dorphalsig>
I have an xterm
09:49
<ogra>
applause :)
09:49* Dorphalsig applauds
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<Dorphalsig>
:P
09:49
now how on earth do I get a desktop?
09:49
<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:50
<jammcq>
!sbalneav
09:50
<ltspbot>
jammcq: "sbalneav" is Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:50
<Dorphalsig>
!dorphalsig
09:50
<ltspbot>
Dorphalsig: Error: "dorphalsig" is not a valid command.
09:50
<ogra>
so fix your Xsession handling :) .... or use a session script for the desired desktop you call directly via LDM_REMOTECMD ... as you like
09:50* vagrantc just realized what !sbalneav is for
09:50
<jammcq>
vagrantc: it's a macro
09:50
<ogra>
vagrantc, makro
09:50
<sbalneav>
Saves jammcq some typing
09:51
<vagrantc>
and re-useable by others, should they choose
09:51
<jammcq>
reusable components
09:53
<Dorphalsig>
ok
09:53
just did LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/icewm
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<mhterres>
hello everybody
09:55
hi jammcq
09:55
hi sbalneav
09:56
jammcq, What day do you arrive in Porto Alegre ?
09:56
<jammcq>
April 11th
09:56
with sbalneav
09:56
and keithp
09:56
<mhterres>
and what day do you leave?
09:56
<jammcq>
and a few other friends
09:56
Apr 16th, Monday
09:56
<mhterres>
great
09:57
we are organizing something for sunday morning
09:57
about 9AM
09:57
before the "churrasco"
09:58
go to the "Brique da Redenção" and "Parque Farroupilha"(Farroupilha Park)
09:58
to people know more the city, can buy some souveniers, drink some "chimarrão" :-)
09:58
what do you thinkl
09:58
?
09:58
and you sbalneav
09:58
?
10:00
<jammcq>
mhterres: umm, been there, done that
10:00
<mhterres>
:-)
10:00* jammcq will likely go with marlon to buy the meet :)
10:00
<mhterres>
heheheh
10:02
<sbalneav>
I'm going to be sporadic today. I'm at home, trying to keep my basement from filling up with water :)
10:02
<mhterres>
what happened ?
10:02
<sbalneav>
My neighbour always sees fit to dump all his snow near my house, which blocks drainage, and I have a window well which keeps filling up with water.
10:03
Until my weeping tile thaws enough to drain it, I have to bail every 1/2 hour :)
10:03
<mhterres>
ohh
10:03
<jammcq>
sbalneav: dude, they make these contraptions called PUMPS for that
10:03
<cliebow_>
sbalneav:if i boot live cd andmount /dev/hda1 and chroot..shouldnt i be able to grub-install /dev/hda?
10:03
<mhterres>
how about the temperature in Canada ?
10:03
is it cold now ?
10:03
<sbalneav>
It's not the sump that's filling up
10:04
it's the window well outside the house
10:04
<cliebow_>
sort of like Titanic?
10:04
<sbalneav>
No, it's warming up quite quickly. it's 10 C here right now, so things are melting rapidly, hence the proble,
10:05
<mhterres>
hmmmm, I understand
10:05
<cliebow_>
any coment onmy grub-install piece?
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<jammcq>
mhterres: hey, where's your boss ?
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<ltsppbot>
"cliebow" pasted "default 0 timeout 3 #hiddenmen" (154 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/71
10:09
<cliebow_>
anyone see a screwup here??
10:11
<mhterres>
jammcq, He's in Sao Paulo
10:11
<jammcq>
I need to talk to him
10:11
<ogra>
cliebow, yes
10:11
<mhterres>
today he'll travel to Manaus
10:12
jammcq, I'll let him kwno
10:12
know
10:12
<jammcq>
sooper
10:12
<ogra>
hmm, or no, not ...
10:13
<mhterres>
ok, He'll connected ASAP
10:13
<cliebow_>
i have a balky upgrade to feisty..didnt update menu.lst so imwinging it..and now cant get any kerel to mount a filesystem
10:14
<vagrantc>
cliebow_: it's an anti-clutter mechanism
10:14
<Dorphalsig>
Ok, it worked on vmware
10:14
<cliebow_>
so looking for an error after manually adding new kernel
10:14
<Dorphalsig>
however I cant even get the login screen on the clients
10:15
<cliebow_>
vagrantc:does nothing for the mental clutter rapidly accumulating
10:15
<Dorphalsig>
Cany get ltsp5 2 give me a login screen on the clients. all I see is a black screen with a cursor blinking
10:16
<cliebow_>
good grief..no initrd there
10:17
<ogra>
cliebow_, but you did use update-manager as advised and didnt fiddle with apt-get i hope
10:17
<Dorphalsig>
:( I cant get a login screen on the clients :(
10:17
Weird thing is if I run with VMWARE it works wonders
10:18
<ogra>
Dorphalsig, if your IP changed dont forget to run ltsp-update-sshkeys :)
10:18
<mhterres>
guys: any upgrades in LTSP Feisty version ?
10:18
<ogra>
mhterres, ?
10:18
<Dorphalsig>
ogra... you mean, like from the clients?
10:18
<mhterres>
ogra, Is it the same version of Edgy ?
10:19
ogra, I mean, what is the differences of LSTP in Feisty and in Edgy ?
10:19
<ogra>
mhterres, its version 5.0.4 atm ... in feisty ... edgy has 0.134 or some such
10:20
<Lumiere>
xp on the S ;)
10:20
<ogra>
feisty has a completely new sound system,
10:20
<mhterres>
hmmm, great
10:20
<ogra>
lots of fixes beyond edgy indeed
10:21
support i'm just about to add a fix for support for usbfloppies
10:21
-^support
10:21
<vagrantc>
ogra: regarding the usb floppy patches ...
10:21
<ogra>
yes ?
10:21
<mhterres>
ogra, interesting
10:21
<vagrantc>
ogra: does it seem weird to modprobe within the ltsp udev rules ?
10:22
<mhterres>
You guys, from Ubuntu teams, knows when there will be another LTS version ?
10:22
<ogra>
vagrantc, hmm, right that should go into /etc/modules.d
10:22
mhterres, therte is none planned yet
10:23
<mhterres>
I imagine that
10:23
<ogra>
vagrantc, hmm, that needs more thinking i guess ... sad, i thought i could add it to feisty, but thats a bigger change
10:24
thanks for pointing
10:24
<mhterres>
I really want to use the new LTSP versions, but I need a distro that have more than 18 months of support
10:24
so I need to stay in 4.2
10:24
<ogra>
you could use the tarballs :)
10:24
<mhterres>
from version 5 ?
10:24
<ogra>
asd keep the server distro on dapper
10:24
*and
10:25
but you will need an ltspfs backport for that
10:25
<mhterres>
I don't know that exists tarballs from version 5
10:25
<ogra>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads#DownloadTarball
10:26
<vagrantc>
ogra: whoah, you beat me to !tarball with the full URL :P
10:26
<mhterres>
great
10:26
thanks
10:26
<ogra>
heh, got it open here
10:26
<Dorphalsig>
still nothing :(
10:27
<ogra>
Dorphalsig, any other dhcp server in the network that could confuse the clients ?
10:27
<Dorphalsig>
nope... I mean they boot OK
10:27
<ogra>
oh207, i thought you dont see the login screen
10:27
<mhterres>
this tarballs are new in the site
10:28
<Dorphalsig>
ogra.. it boots ok, but when its time to show the login screen it wont
10:28
<mhterres>
I looked for that in January and don't find nothing like that
10:28
<Dorphalsig>
I mean I get the UBUNTU screen
10:28
loading
10:28
but after I get a big blank screen
10:29
<jammcq>
mhterres: we just added that a few weeks ago
10:29
<mhterres>
jammcq, great, I miss this in that occasion
10:30
<ogra>
jammcq, we should have a package for ltspfs (server side only) as well on there
10:31
and probably some instructions how to install gstreamer-pulse and libasound2-plugins for differet distros so you get the full sound fun ;)
10:31
<jammcq>
yes, we certainly should. I wonder who could create that package..... oh Scotty
10:32
<ogra>
(these two are needed on the server for pulse to emulate alsa devices)
10:32
<Dorphalsig>
ok so I run ltsp-update-sshkeys
10:32
and I get this
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<Dorphalsig>
logger: /var/log/syslog: No such file or directory.
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<cliebow_>
ahhh...better
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<pscheie>
morning all
10:34
<ogra>
Dorphalsig, run syslog with the option -r on your server, so the client can log to it ;)
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<vagrantc>
ltsp-update-sshkeys is run server-side and uses logger ...
10:35
<ogra>
ugh, since when does it use logger ?
10:36
<Dorphalsig>
ooh
10:36
<ogra>
gah, i know why i didnt like petters patch to that
10:36
<blinky_ghost>
hi, I have a terminal that has a cs5535 sound board card, I've tried everything and can't get it to work, any help?
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<bricode_>
sbalneav: Looks like I'll be in your neck of the woods as of Thursday.
10:37
<ogra>
vagrantc, i fixed the MODULE code today
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<vagrantc>
ogra: nice :)
10:41
<Dorphalsig>
vagrantc.... just brought syslogd up with the -r
10:42
<vagrantc>
Dorphalsig: you probably need to symlink /var/log/syslog to /var/log/messages or wherever your distro puts generic log messages
10:42
i mean, that's one ugly hack to fix it
10:42
Dorphalsig: the syslogd -r thing won't really address that issue
10:42
Dorphalsig: but it's probably good to enable anyways
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<Dorphalsig>
ok so I do that
10:46
after that I run ltsp-update-sshkeys
10:46
and that should let my clients connect?
10:47
I can get a login screen on vmware, but cant get it on the real client
10:47
why is that?
10:51
<vagrantc>
hmmm... no login screen would not get fixed by ltsp-update-sshkeys
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<vagrantc>
Dorphalsig: so... X comes up, but no login screen?
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<Dorphalsig>
vagrantc... umm actually all that comes up is a black screen with a blinking cursor
10:59
I get to see the "loading" screen, but once it finishes loading, I dont get a login screen, just a black screen with a cursor blinking
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<vagrantc>
Dorphalsig: probably the video card was not detected
11:03
Dorphalsig: you might need to set XSERVER= in lts.conf
11:10
<Dorphalsig>
hrmmm
11:10
vagrantc... what Xserver should I specify?
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<Dorphalsig>
ok will put sis
11:13
<ogra>
Dorphalsig, hmm, yopu shouldnt need to except you have very very new hardware ...
11:13
but add the one matching the graphics board indeed
11:18
<Dorphalsig>
ogra... actually I have very very very old hw
11:18
<dan__t>
'morning.
11:19
<ogra>
well, your card should have at least 2Mb ... usually most of th eold chips are recognized
11:20
<Dorphalsig>
ok just rebooted the client
11:21
and it wont work :(
11:21
X_SERVER=sis
11:21
<ogra>
i doubt xorg has a driver called sis
11:21
<Dorphalsig>
well it appears in the wiki
11:22
<ogra>
try sis_drv instead
11:22
but it sdhould automatically fall back to vesa anyway
11:24
<Dorphalsig>
is there any log that I can watch?
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<bricode_>
!sizing
11:27
<ltspbot>
bricode_: Error: "sizing" is not a valid command.
11:27
<bricode_>
!serversizing
11:27
<ltspbot>
bricode_: "serversizing" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
11:29
<envite>
ReHello
11:31
<Dorphalsig>
ogra ... no luck
11:31
just tried vesa and nothing
11:31
<ogra>
no
11:32
it should fall back to vesa if it cant do anything ...
11:32
if it doesnt evenm get to that point there must be something else in the way
11:32
<Dorphalsig>
because my messages file reports this:
11:32
<ogra>
drop the quiet and splash keywords from the pxelinux.cfg file
11:33
then you will see where it hangs
11:34
<juxed>
i'm having problems with impression(CUPS), it follows the message
11:34
" Print file sent, waiting for printer to finish... "
11:34
what it can be ?
11:35
<Dorphalsig>
it seems like its cups ... maybe the printer is offline or soething
11:40
<juxed>
she is not off-line...
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<Dorphalsig>
ogra ... I'm getting NFS server not reachable something like that\
11:44
<ogra>
aha
11:45* vagrantc was stuck on much higher-level problems
11:45
<ogra>
well, either thats true or your dhcp points the client to the wrong place
11:45
i still would bet for a second dhcp server ... a DSL router perhaps ?
11:46
<Dorphalsig>
not as far as I know
11:46
lemme check my firewall
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<Dorphalsig>
ok I'm now positive I dont have dhcpd servers running
11:48
other than the 1 on my ltsp machine
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<Dorphalsig>
!pastebot
11:49
<ltspbot>
Dorphalsig: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<ltsppbot>
"dorphalsig" pasted "NFS timed out" (26 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/72
11:54
<vagrantc>
does the version of initramfs-tools in edgy retry the NFS mount after failure?
11:56
patches were added in debian etch a while ago... probably didn't make it into edgy
11:57
<Dorphalsig>
OK I get NFS server 192.168.99.4 not responding
11:57
rthen I get an OK
11:58
and then I get the same thing "still trying"
12:00
<vagrantc>
!nfs
12:00
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: Error: "nfs" is not a valid command.
12:00
<vagrantc>
ltspbot: factoids search --values
12:00
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', 'download', 'monkeys', and 'ogra'
12:01
<vagrantc>
i think there's a wiki page about troubleshooting NFS
12:01
...
12:02
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#NFS_Server_not_responding
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<Dorphalsig>
vagrantc ... it already has those params
12:05
<vagrantc>
Dorphalsig: MOPTS, or NFSOPTS ?
12:05
<Dorphalsig>
MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2
12:05
<vagrantc>
use NFSOPTS
12:06
Dorphalsig: see the section for ubuntu, since you're using an ubuntu tarball
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<Dorphalsig>
starting kernel event manager ...
12:11
setting up ltsp client
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<vagrantc>
sounds better
12:14
<Dorphalsig>
wooohooo
12:15
lov e u guys
12:18
<sbalneav>
ltspbot: learn nfs as the protocol that serves the files needed by LTSP. You can find info at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS
12:18
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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<vagrantc>
ogra: i seem to recall you made some patches for the ltsp-client-builder progress bar ... on debian, it hits 50% and then stalls and eventually finished at 100%
12:19
<sbalneav>
ltspbot: learn nfsnotresp as Sometimes moving from UDP to TCP trasmission on your NFS can help. See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#NFS_Server_not_responding
12:19
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
12:20
<sbalneav>
!topcs
12:20
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: Error: "topcs" is not a valid command.
12:20
<sbalneav>
!topics
12:20
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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<sbalneav>
ltspbot: factoids search --values
12:20
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', 'download', 'monkeys', 'ogra', 'nfs', and 'nfsnotresp'
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<cliebow__>
ltspbot learn j as jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<ltspbot>
cliebow__: The operation succeeded.
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<Lumiere>
ltspbot learn j as jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<ltspbot>
Lumiere: The operation succeeded.
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<Lumiere>
XD
13:21
!j
13:21
<ltspbot>
Lumiere: "j" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<cliebow__>
!j1
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<ltspbot>
cliebow__: Error: "j1" is not a valid command.
13:22
<cliebow__>
!j
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<ltspbot>
cliebow__: "j" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<cliebow__>
how about an if statement..?
13:23
.............ltspbot learn !j if exist
13:23
zed?
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<Lumiere>
lol
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<agliodbs>
jammcq: you book hotel for FISL yet?
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<cliebow_>
!j
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<ltspbot>
cliebow_: "j" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<agliodbs>
jammcq: you book hotel for FISL yet?
15:09
sorry
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<moquist>
areardon: hiya
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<mgli>
please, can me anybody help?
15:25
i've troble with booting with thin clent from HP .
15:25
i upgraded to ltsp 4.2 (k12lpst 5) from ltsp 4.0 and kernels freezes after boot
15:26
I'am trying older kernel bzImage-2.4.26-ltsp-3 and booting stop with message: Enter runlevel.. ???
15:29
When I booting the new - bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 - boot stoped after request to dhcp server (fro user space). DHCP server recieved request, but client the response not accept with message: 'ERROR: dhcpcd...'
15:30
My dhcp and tftp server working well - clients with etherboot kernels boots ok.
15:30
Please, have you anybody any idea?
15:32
The error message:
15:32
ERROR! dhcpd failed! Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
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<sbalneav>
mgli: Can you paste your dhcpd.conf file to the pastebot?
15:43
!pastebot
15:43
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
15:44
<mgli>
ok - I'lll try it
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<ltsppbot>
"mgli" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (94 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73
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<mgli>
yes - it is This content is stored as http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73.
15:46
this is not whole my conf file...
15:47
<sbalneav>
Why not?
15:48
<mgli>
the NIC in the HP thin client is vhia-rhine
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<mgli>
I'll paste whole file.... please wait.
15:49
<sbalneav>
You haven't got any indication as to what kernel is what. Are you using LTSP 4.2 supplied kernels?
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<sbalneav>
Did you use the ltsputils package to download ltsp 4.2?
15:51
<mgli>
yes - bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
15:51
this is the last kernel from ltsp 4.2
15:51
which i found
15:52
<sbalneav>
Which clients are you having trouble on?
15:52
The i386 ones?
15:52
<mgli>
DHCP and TFTP work well with etherboot clients, but the PXE client HP t5000 freeze
15:52
yes i386
15:53
<sbalneav>
OK, because you'll have to adjust the "filename" parameter for the new kernel
15:54
i.e., you need something like "filename "/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/pxe/pxelinux.0"
15:54
<mgli>
host ws057 {
15:54
hardware ethernet 00:14:C2:05:AF:CE;
15:54
fixed-address 192.168.1.157;
15:54
filename "/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0";
15:54
}
15:54
<sbalneav>
Where are your kernels stored?
15:54
/tftpboot?
15:55
<mgli>
this is the entry in dhcpd.conf for HP client
15:55
yes in /tftpboot
15:55
<sbalneav>
what dirs do you have in /tftpboot/lts?
15:56
<mgli>
dirs: /boot /pxe
15:56
<sbalneav>
That doesn't seem right
15:56
<mgli>
and /pxe/pxelinux.cfg
15:57
<sbalneav>
ltsp supplied kernels usualy have the version number
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<mgli>
this is the install from k12ltsp 5.....
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<jammcq>
if he's using k12ltsp, he won't have a version number on the 'filename' entry
15:58
<sbalneav>
ok
15:58
Then I'm at a loss.
15:58
Ask on the K12 mailing list, I guess.
15:58
<jammcq>
what's the problem he's having?
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<sbalneav>
kernel won't load.
15:59
A chunk of his dhcpd.conf is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73
16:00
Gotta go bail, be back later.
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<mgli>
my HP client recieved kernel (PXE) from tftp and after the second (from userspace) request to the dhcp server stop (freeze):
16:00
ERROR! dhcpd failed!
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no, kernel load, but cannot recieved the response from dhcp
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<jammcq>
how does that work at all?
16:00
looks like a 'elsif' that isn't part of a previous 'if'
16:01* jammcq wishes people would learn how to indent their dhcpd.conf files
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<agliodbs>
jammcq: hey, I was on earlier ... do you have a hotel for FISL yet?
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<jammcq>
agliodbs: the fisl organizers are taking care of that
16:03
marlon said it would be the same place as last year. problem is, I don't remember where that was
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<ltsppbot>
"mgli" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (353 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/74
16:03
<mgli>
now this is the whole dhcpd.conf
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<jammcq>
mgli: which workstation are you having trouble with?
16:04
<mgli>
HP t5000 - NIC vhia rhine
16:04
PXE boot
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<jammcq>
which one in the config file?
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<mgli>
host ws057 {
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(22:50:36) mgli: hardware ethernet 00:14:C2:05:AF:CE;
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(22:50:36) mgli: fixed-address 192.168.1.157;
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i have 17 psc of this HP client
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<jammcq>
mgli: you should have something like:
16:05
filename "/lts/2.6.17-ltsp-3/pxelinux.0";
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or whatever kernel version you have
16:06
<mgli>
ok - i'll try
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<jammcq>
double check the version number you have
16:06
then, go look in /tftpboot/lts, and make sure you have that directory
16:07
<mgli>
i've upgraded fro old k12 (FC3) to the new one..... with the old k12, works HP well.
16:07
version of what?
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<jammcq>
so you are using k12? do this: ls -ld /tftpboot/lts
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<mgli>
yes k12 5.0
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but i dont have directory /tftpboot/lts/2.6.17-ltsp-3/
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<jammcq>
mgli: what directories do you have?
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<mgli>
now i have thats you write
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yes 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
16:18
My dirs for tfpd:
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/tftpboot/lts/pxe, /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.cfg
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/tftpboot/lts/boot
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<jammcq>
what's in /tftpboot/lts/pxe ?
16:19
<mgli>
now i cretaed /tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
16:19
<jammcq>
no
16:19
don't be doing that
16:19
you should only have that directory, if you've actually installed that kernel
16:20
<mgli>
there are kernels, pxelinux.0
16:20
<jammcq>
so you have: /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0 ?
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<mgli>
yes - this is from k12
16:21
<jammcq>
"yes" what? I don't even know what questions you are answering
16:21
<mgli>
so you have: /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0 ? - yes
16:22
<jammcq>
ah
16:22
ok, what is in /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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<mgli>
prompt 0
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label linux
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kernel vmlinuz.ltsp
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append root=/dev/ram0 rw initrd=initramfs.gz
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<jammcq>
ok, do you have /tftpboot/lts/pxe/vmlinuz.ltsp ?
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<mgli>
vmlinuz.ltsp is symlink to the bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
16:23
<jammcq>
where?
16:23
<mgli>
parent directory
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<jammcq>
specify
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<mgli>
in /tftpboot/lts/pxe: vmlinuz.ltsp -> bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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<jammcq>
ok, well, that should work
16:25
*should*
16:25
your filename entry should be:
16:25
filename "/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0";
16:25
<mgli>
yes - it is
16:26
after boot - the PXE kernel is download with tftp.... but after the 'second' request to dhcp server.... stop: error dhcpd
16:27
<jammcq>
ah
16:27
<mgli>
via-rhine driver in kernel?
16:27
<jammcq>
so the kernel is loaded, but fails to get its 2nd dhcp request
16:27
<mgli>
ok! yes
16:28
<jammcq>
what model HP ?
16:28
<mgli>
HP t5000
16:28
NIC VIA rhine....
16:28
i thing, the NIC is the problem
16:28
maybe
16:29
<jammcq>
hmm, we've seen problems with various drivers for the via-rhine
16:29
but I thought that was fixed in 2.6.17.8
16:30
<mgli>
DHCP server recieve DHCDISCOVER from that client and send DHCPREQUEST..... but client not
16:30
client not recievet this answer.... I think
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<mgli>
i tried the old kernel 2.4.26 - here is no problem with dhcp, but this kernel stoped with message:
16:33
Enter runlevel:
16:33
after runing /sbin/init
16:33
<jammcq>
yeah, 2.4 kernels DEFINATELY won't work with ltsp-4.2
16:33
<mgli>
can i use 2.4 kernels with LTSP 4.2?
16:33
<jammcq>
no, not at all
16:33
<mgli>
ou
16:33
<jammcq>
I'm using an HP 5300 with no problem
16:34
<mgli>
this is problem - the old kernels (with older ltsp) worked with HP t5000 well :-(
16:34
HP 5300 have the same NIC?
16:35
<jammcq>
I'm pretty sure its a via-rhine
16:35
<mgli>
VIA Rhine II?
16:36
ach..... tomorow will be the classroom with HP t5000 dead :-)
16:36
:-( correct
16:37
<jammcq>
hmm
16:37
are you using 2.6.17.8 or 2.6.17.3 ?
16:38
after the client fails, you should be able to scroll backwards with Shift-PageUp
16:38
and go all the way back to the beginning, and see which kernel it is booting
16:38
<mgli>
at the last i tried 2.6.17.8...
16:39
no - kernel panic
16:39
i'm sure the 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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<jammcq>
hmm, that's the latest kernel for ltsp-4.2
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<mgli>
i see the message:
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insmod /lib/modules.2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.ko
16:42
last message from the client screen:
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eth0: link up, 10Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x4DE1
16:42
ERROR! dhcpcp failed!
16:42
Kernel panic......
16:42
<jammcq>
10Mbps ?
16:42
is this going to a SWITCH or a HUB ?
16:43
<mgli>
no, 100Mbps.... sorry
16:43
switch
16:43
<jammcq>
k
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<mgli>
I'am here 4 hours and now there is 23.40... sorry
16:45
with the 2.4 kernel the 2nd request to the dhcp server is ok....
16:45
2.4 kernel stop after running /sbin/init (pivot_root)
16:46
<jammcq>
there appears to be a problem with the via-rhine driver in the 2.6.17.8 kernel
16:46
<mgli>
yes, i think too...
16:46
the older one?
16:47
in what version ltsp can i use 2.4 kernels?
16:48
<jammcq>
you could try the 2.6.16-1 kernel with ltsp-4.2
16:48
<mgli>
2.4 kernels worked ok
16:48
<jammcq>
you could use ltsp-4.1, but then you won't get the great local devices
16:48
hang on a minute, and I'll get you the url for the 2.6.16.1 kernel
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<mgli>
please, from where can i download ltsp-4.1?
16:52
http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.1/ - from this URL?
16:54
<jammcq>
no, hang on a sec
16:54
<mgli>
ok
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<jammcq>
http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.2/
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in there, is 2 files you'll need
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ltsp-kernel-2.6.16.1-ltsp-2-0-i386.tgz
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and ltsp-modules-2.6.16.1-ltsp-2-0-i386.tgz
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<mgli>
ok, thanks
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<jammcq>
you'll need both of those
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when you get the kernel package, go to /tftpboot/lts
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in that directory, then un-tar the file
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it'll make /tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/*
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and, to install the modules, go into /opt/ltsp
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and untar the modules package
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it'll put it in /opt/ltsp/3i86/lib/modules/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2
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<mgli>
the entry in dhcpd.conf wil be:
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filename "/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0";
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?
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<jammcq>
yes
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that's right
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<mgli>
jam, you are wizzard!!!!!!!! booting. many thx
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<mgli>
in this kernel is another NIC driver ?
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via-rhine driver?
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<jammcq>
well, it's someone older
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same, via-rhine
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<mgli>
supeeeeeeeeeeer
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<jammcq>
is it working ok now?
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<mgli>
yes - client is up, gdm screen
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<jammcq>
ah, that's excellent
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<mgli>
thank you for your time
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<jammcq>
no prob
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<cliebow>
!J
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<ltspbot>
cliebow: "J" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<gonzaloaf_work>
!ltsp5
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<ltspbot>
gonzaloaf_work: "ltsp5" is ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
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<gonzaloaf_work>
!ltsp5 debian
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<ltspbot>
gonzaloaf_work: Error: "ltsp5" is not a valid command.
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<vagrantc>
gonzaloaf_work: what do you need?
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gonzaloaf_work: i work on the ltsp5 implementation in debian
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<gonzaloaf_work>
vagrantc, I know :p
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vagrantc, I was looking for the documentation for install ltsp 5 in debian
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<gonzaloaf_work>
vagrantc, are you there?
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<vagrantc>
gonzaloaf_work: http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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gonzaloaf_work: it's sparse, but something
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<gonzaloaf_work>
vagrantc, I've already ran ltsp-build-client
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vagrantc, I want to set up the PXE boot, is the same was as ltsp 4.2 right?
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<IRCzito_home>
ogra: god night
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I'm turn on today work to make lts-server for slackware
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i want know wath's lsb_release -i -s return
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somebody with ubuntu can execute this for me?
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i want know if the result have space in white
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:(
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<vagrantc>
gonzaloaf_work: http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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gonzaloaf_work: also look in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/
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<IRCzito_home>
vagrantc: are you using ubuntu?
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<vagrantc>
IRCzito_home: debian, but it's close
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<IRCzito_home>
vagrantc: can you help me?
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<vagrantc>
IRCzito_home: -s, --short show all of the above information in short format
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<IRCzito_home>
I see the man of this package on the internet
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<vagrantc>
IRCzito_home: -i, --id show distributor ID
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<IRCzito_home>
but I not know if the result have blank space
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<vagrantc>
on debian, lsb_release -i -s shows "Debian"
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<IRCzito_home>
ok thanks :D
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so de version dont show
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<vagrantc>
IRCzito_home: -c shows codename
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i.e. etch, sarge for debian ... edgy, feisty for ubuntu
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those are the ones you'll need to know
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IRCzito_home: do you have lsb_release in slackware?
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<IRCzito_home>
not
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i can use /etc/slackware-version
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<IRCzito_home>
this returns Slackware 11.0.0
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<vagrantc>
IRCzito_home: well, it would be good if we could try to use the same tools so we don't have to fork code as much
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IRCzito_home: you've seen ...
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!integration
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<IRCzito_home>
I think that I go to use this: cat /etc/slackware-version | cut -d ' ' -f 1
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "integration" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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<vagrantc>
?
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while each distro should be free to implement ltsp however they want, it will probably save us time if we can share most of the code
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<IRCzito_home>
for the moment i suse sucefull ltsp5 which slackware11+ubuntu roo-tree
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vagrantc: so i go find lsb_release for slackware for we don't have to fork code as much :D
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;)
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<vagrantc>
my skills at finding software for slackware are limited. you'd probably want someone familiar with slackware.
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IRCzito_home: sf.net/projects/lsb
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IRCzito_home: or ...
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IRCzito_home: http://gforge.freestandards.org/projects/lsb/
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<jammcq>
hey kids
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<IRCzito_home>
vagrantc: thanks, i go see
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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