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Channel log from 3 June 2010   (all times are UTC)

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09:07
<denisesball>
anyone know why my NIC (Broadcom BCM5780 w/tg3 driver) isn't working in lucid but works fine in debian 5?
09:07
<alkisg>
As a thin client? Or on a standalone pc?
09:08
<denisesball>
this is going to be the thin client server
09:08
<alkisg>
So, it isn't working when you boot that pc as a thin client? Or when you boot a normal, installed ubuntu?
09:09
<denisesball>
i just installed ubuntu ltsp server on this server with the card. it couldnt configure it during the install, and post-install i still cant get it going
09:09
<alkisg>
Got it.
09:09
<denisesball>
but i tried the debian installer and it worked fine
09:11
would the ubuntu server iso be better than using the ubuntu alternate?
09:12
<alkisg>
Nah..
09:12
<denisesball>
well this really sucks
09:12
<alkisg>
sudo lspci -vv -nn | less => see under your card which module it uses
09:12
<denisesball>
just fyi i'm getting "recieve_packet failed network is down" when trying dhclient on the interface
09:13
the NIC is orange too, not green, but i know the cable/switch are fine. the debian installer had no prob
09:13
<alkisg>
Ah, so the module is loaded but then it fails? hmm well that's beyond my module skills :)
09:14
<denisesball>
yeah the tg3 module like i said above
09:15
and the newest one on broadcom's site is from march, so you'd think it would be up to date
09:16* alkisg has BCM5787M and it's working fine...
09:16
<denisesball>
tg3 module?
09:16
<alkisg>
Yeah
09:17
<denisesball>
wtf
09:17
dhclient also says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Function not implemented"
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09:24
<denisesball>
added a pci-X nic and it works no problem. gonna see if updates help i guess
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09:32
<denisesball>
alkisg: i think i'm having some irq issues
09:33
i see "disabling irq X" in the logs all over
09:34
and i dont think ive had to troubleshoot irq issues in 10 years
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09:54
<denisesball>
alkisg: make anything of this? http://pastebin.com/j9HSZRvM
09:57
<alkisg>
No, no idea. Did you try what it proposes? "(try booting with the "irqpoll" option)"
09:57
(i.e. press e on grub...)
09:57
<denisesball>
not yet
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10:39
<denisesball>
alkisg: if you are curious, BIOS upgrade took care of it!
10:39
that was frustrating to say the least
10:44
<cliebow>
nice catch
10:45
<denisesball>
haha, when all else fails - UPGRADE! right?
10:45* alkisg hates hardware/pci/bios problems, has had too big a share of those :-/
10:46
<cliebow>
for me one thing is fixed and two break
10:47
<denisesball>
yeah i have days like that for sure
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14:08
<alkisg>
stgraber: could we put ltsp-chroot to /usr/sbin like debian does?
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14:36
<rad4Christ>
Is there any reason I should look to try to implement nx into ltsp booting? I have a coworker stating we should try to use nx to use lees bandwidth per client. Is this doable?
14:39
<thunsucker>
rad4Christ: are you having bandwidth problems? another solution would be to run fat clients
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<rad4Christ>
thunsucker: actuallty, still testing the server. I havent' even rolled it out to a full lab. that's why I was wondering before I go into finding out how.
14:41
I'm planning to run fat clients with FF and OOo running locally.
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14:41
<cliebow>
rad4Christ, you need to access the server from distance?
14:41
on the wan?
14:41
<thunsucker>
rad4Christ: how many clients you going to have?
14:42
<rad4Christ>
This will all be on LAN, running 115 clients loadbalanced on 4 servers.
14:43
Initially, testing will be on 25 clients on one server until I've got it all worked out.
14:43
<thunsucker>
rad4Christ: honestly I would skip the nx, don't think it's intended for lan
14:43
<rad4Christ>
We're replacing all labs in a public MS/HS, so we're really stoked, but want to get it right.
14:43
<dobber_>
http://www.epiacenter.com/pictures/news/2006/computex06/gigabyte/100_4518.JPG
14:44
<rad4Christ>
This is what we're using: http://aceraspirerevo.com/
14:46
<cliebow>
nx is great across the wan..but there is so much squashing and inflating in nx it takes its toll
14:48
<dobber_>
rad4Christ it even have a remote control, cool
14:50
<rad4Christ>
There's a $20 mount to mount these to the back of an LCD, making them pretty ideal for MS/HS labs and libraries.
14:51
Also, on Ubuntu 10.04 I cannot find a lts.conf file.
14:51
Is it not used/created by default?
14:53
<dobber_>
rad4Christ /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/
14:53
it's there
14:54
<thunsucker>
rad4Christ: if not, it's not required
14:54
<rad4Christ>
Well, is there anywhereI can download a sample one for LTSP5 so I can play with the settings?
14:54
<vagrantc>
lts.conf has been optional for quite some time
14:55
the *only* reason it's still included is people panic when it's not there.
14:55
<denisesball>
its not included in default 10.04
14:55
ive had to create it manually every time
14:56
<cliebow>
rad:thers hould be an lts_parameters zipped file there somewhere..used to be
14:56
<thunsucker>
rad4Christ: I would start here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download
14:56
<alkisg>
denisesball: you can also run `man lts.conf` and see the commands there.
14:57
<denisesball>
alkisg: i know, i wasnt asking, just letting vagrantc know its not there so people panic
14:57
<alkisg>
denisesball: sorry, I meant to post that for rad4Christ.
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14:57
<thunsucker>
maybe it would be a good idea to include a blank one
14:57
<denisesball>
i think so
14:58
<thunsucker>
that says #I'm blank by default :) but feel free to edit me
14:58
<denisesball>
alkisg: also:
14:58
termserver1:~$ man lts.conf
14:58
No manual entry for lts.conf
14:59
<alkisg>
sudo apt-get install ltsp-docs
14:59
!lts.conf
14:59
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
14:59
<alkisg>
or that ^^^
14:59
<denisesball>
(i think that package should also be downloaded by default)
14:59
<alkisg>
Hmm yeah it'd be a good idea to file a bug report to get it to "recomments" of ltsp-server.
15:00
<dobber_>
i've never used ltsp prior to 5.2 and i had no problem folowing the documentation. i created lts.conf without wondering
15:01
maybe you should clarify this in 4 to 5 transition
15:01
<vagrantc>
even people who started with ltsp5 hesitate to create something fresh rather than simply edit something that's already there.
15:02
<denisesball>
definitely, i would assume im just looking in the wrong place
15:03
<dobber_>
vagrantc true
15:03
<rad4Christ>
Thanks guys! One last thing for today.
15:04
for localapps, do I still need to create custom shortcuts in order to tell the client to run it locally, or if it is install lcally to the image, will it automatically run locally?
15:05
<vagrantc>
rad4Christ: there's an lts.conf option to automatically enable it in xdg menus, which gnome uses
15:05
LOCALAPPS_MENU or some such
15:05
<dobber_>
i had to make a custom shortcut for my local apps
15:06
<rad4Christ>
vagrantc: basically like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty
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<vagrantc>
i haven't really used it anywhere, merely set it up to test that it works on debian
15:08
<rad4Christ>
OK
15:08
<alkisg>
man lts.conf ==. LOCAL_APPS_MENU: boolean, default False
15:08
<rad4Christ>
Thanks for the help, now off to another client!
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<PMantis>
What's up my homies?
15:13
Hmmm, looks like Gadi and ogra are the only nicks I recognize. LOL
15:15
#xfce hasn't been helpful so far. Anyone here know how to eliminate the desktop icons for all users of an LTSP server on Xubuntu?
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<jammcq>
hey all
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