IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 6 November 2006   (all times are UTC)

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<T-1000>
good morning :)
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<Shane-S>
morning all, is there a way (I am using k12ltsp) to set the server to allow a 32Mb ram system load the GUI. I have to increase the TC ram to 64 for it to load the Gnome GUI of Fedora
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<McPolo>
I finally got usb-sticks working (ltsp 4.2), but cdrom isn't working. =)
08:19
Manually I can mount it from shell (on thin clients), but it doesn't appear in /etc/fstab at all. floppy & usb is there.
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<psycodad>
hi, i just tried to find a good scanner supported by sane for my ltsp env: None of the ones i have (scanjet 3770 and 3800) are supported, looked with our supplier: none of the ones the sell is supported from sane... does anybody have any recommendation on a good from sane supported scanner that is still on sale somewhere ?
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<McPolo>
Ok, my problem solved. I had in lts.conf line MODULE_01=ide_generic, because previously id seemed that thin clients do not even load any ide-drivers. But i commented it out and now it works. :)
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<jammcq>
cliebow: ping
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<Shane-S>
anyone using a lstp server that then hands off to a windows enviroment?
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<jammcq>
laprag: hey
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<laprag>
hey there. All well at google?
09:48
<jammcq>
yeah, well.... still at the hotel
09:48
<laprag>
ah. when do you start the ubuntu conference?
09:49
<jammcq>
yesterday
09:49
we'll be heading over to google hq in a few minutes
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<laprag>
i keep forgetting the time zones
09:49
its early for you
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<jammcq>
7:48am
09:49
not too early
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all showered and shaved, just gotta peel myself away from the keyboard so we can go
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<laprag>
well have fun :)
09:50
clean people have more fun ;)
09:50
talk to you later
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<jammcq>
ciao
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<telenieko>
Hi all, on the debian ltsp packages how can I support local apps? (or mainly, local session)
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<g333k_work>
Hello, I have read the wiki's manual, but I'm still cant execute firefox locally in my clients, can somebody help me to do that?
12:48
btw I'm using Ubuntu + LTSP 4.2
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<g333k_work>
no clues?
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<McPolo>
g333k_work: Perhaps not so trivial task :)
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<g333k_work>
McPolo, it hard to do that?
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<McPolo>
g333k_work: I have no clue. Just looked at the wiki-page.
13:06
Why need to run firefox locally?
13:08
we tried googlevideo and some random movie .avi in thin clients. Sound and video does not sync very good, and .avi does pause a little once in a while.
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<McPolo>
But ofcourse, that's not main priority when using ltsp system.
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<prpplague>
McPolo: googlevideo use adobe flash player?
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<McPolo>
prpplague: yep, something like that.
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<prpplague>
McPolo: there is a known bug with flash7 and linux that causes the audio to be out of sync with the video
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<McPolo>
Sound needs some tweaking but those things are documented nicely in wiki.
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<prpplague>
McPolo: there is a new flash9beta for linux
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McPolo: that addresses the issue
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<McPolo>
We didn't have time to play with it, because this ltsp isn't coming for real production.
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But perhaps it would be nice to see, so that we don't include totally wrong information into our report.
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<prpplague>
McPolo: well, it affects all liinux clients not just ltsp, just a note
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<McPolo>
I know. :)
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<hrc>
McPolo: I'm still having that blank desktop issue
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<McPolo>
hrc: =)
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hrc: I thought your firewall was solution.
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<hrc>
McPolo: Yeah, me too. This is a real pain in the butt. It's driving me crazy.
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<McPolo>
hrc: Why you need full desktop into windows?
13:16
hrc: Isn't some apps enough?
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<hrc>
I want to be able to work with the box full GUI style just like I was at console, from any of my other computers, be they linux or WIndows
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<McPolo>
Ok.
13:17
Why not try cygwin?
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<hrc>
McPolo: Same results
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<McPolo>
HEh.
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<hrc>
McPolo: My goal is to take 2 Ubuntu boxes and make them app servers, so I can connect to them from any old desktop and use a full, rich GUI. Then I will cluster them for high availability.
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<McPolo>
hrc: Then I don't know anything else but run network scanner like ethereal and see what's going on.
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<McPolo>
hrc: If your gdm is configured right (there isn't much to do in xdcmp-section though, so probably it is ok in any case)
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<hrc>
McPolo: Here's the kicker, once in a great while, the full desktop displays
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<hrc>
Ethereal doesn't seem to wanna work so that's out
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<McPolo>
hrc: You need to run ethereal with sudo.
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<hrc>
McPolo: Ethereal on WIn
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<cliebow>
Scottie!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
Hello cliebow
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<g333k_work>
Hello I followed this manual to run opera locally: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/LocalAppOpera, I have success in all the steps, now my client has booted, but how do I start Opera?
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<g333k_work>
any clue?
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<sbalneav>
g333k_work: That wasn't written by anyone at ltsp, but rather a Udo Puetz
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<cliebow>
jammcq:!!!
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<sbalneav>
You might try contacting him by email.
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<g333k_work>
sbalneav, Have you ever done something like that? running a web browser locally?
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<sbalneav>
No, I never want to run them locally.
14:46
I'd much rather run them on the server.
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That way I can kill them if they hang up.
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<McPolo>
Ofcourse if clients are powerful, there's some reason to run them locally.
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<sbalneav>
IMHO, no, but that's just me. :)
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<g333k_work>
sbalneav, Is there much difference running firefox on the server or locally, I mean about the memory that takes from the server and the speed that reduces to the server
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<sbalneav>
g333k_work: I have servers that have 40 people running firefox at the same time. So long as you're not running flash, they'll be fine.
14:50
We will be working on local apps this week.
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So it should be better in ltsp5
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<cliebow>
i also have 30 40
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<cliebow>
you guys at lunch? they let you do that?
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<sbalneav>
It isn't time for lunch yet.
14:51
We have lunch from 1 - 2
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<McPolo>
It's soon midnight here.
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<cliebow>
getting rumbly in your tumbly 8~)
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<McPolo>
How does it handle firefox bookmarks etc. if they run locally?
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<sbalneav>
You'd have to have your home mounted somehow.
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<McPolo>
Oh, that was the way, right.
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<sbalneav>
Plus, the workstation needs to have some idea of "who" you are.
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<McPolo>
Now i understand why home directories were shared via nfs.
14:53
<sbalneav>
In the past, it's been by NIS
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<sbalneav>
In the future it would be via LDAP.
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<McPolo>
Well isn't all user accounts in LDAP in large system in any case?
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<sbalneav>
Sometimes.
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Lunch
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<g333k_work>
Where can I find info about the use of resources of running firefox locally or on the server?
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<rstory>
i'm running ltsp 4.2, and am having a screensaver issue.. i set the kde screensaver to start after 1 min, and it does, but about a minute later, something else kicks in and the screen goes blank.. how can I let the kde screensave continue to run?
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<McPolo>
rstory: power savings go on?
15:08
turn on
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<rstory>
no, the monitor light stays green... it goes yellow for power savings mode..
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<rstory>
also, i tried adding 'X_DPMS_STANDBYTIME = 5' in lts.conf (before there were no DPMS entries), but the behavior is the same either way...
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<Gadi>
rstory: what happens if you open a terminal window in that session and run: xset s off
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or better yet, before you do that do: xset q
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and see how screensaver is set
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<rstory>
ding ding ding!! we have a winner!
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Gadi: it was set to 70 seconds..and is now off.. thanks!
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<Gadi>
my pleasure
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<sawback>
Hi folks, I'm having "trouble with sound". I've got a basic K12LTSP 5.0 setup, a PIII machine with an Ensoniq AudioPCI card, and I've been dealing with some folks on the k12ltsp list who finally referred me here.
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<tom__>
x
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<efra>
The lost ones are back
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ChanServ: I missed you a lot
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<jammcq>
hey homies
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