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Channel log from 12 April 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<Bhaskar1>
i am trying to integrate ltsp 5 in debian based linux but not success, any body can help me to integrate ltsp5
00:53
<sep>
where do you fail ?
00:55
<Bhaskar1>
i run ltsp-kernel-update, sshkey etc then i run apt-get install ltsp-server openssh-server then i found many error?
00:56
<dberkholz>
i have high hopes of doing gentoo ltsp5 stuff next week, because my wife is out of town
01:05
<Bhaskar1>
sep, what is the easiest way to integrate ltsp5 in debian based
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<Bhaskar1>
i have k12ltsp, i have speaker on client and want to play music in client but could not get success, Any idea please help me
01:34
i am on the process to integrate ltsp5 in debian i run apt-get install ltsp-server openssh-server and next step is build the LTSP client environment:
01:34
*
01:34
ltsp-build-client
01:34
how to build ltsp client?
01:36
sep, can u help me?
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<Bhaskar1>
Anybody can help me to integrate ltsp5 in debian based disrto?
01:41
<nrdb>
Bhaskar1: any distro ?
01:41
<Bhaskar1>
nrdb, debian
01:41
nrdb, ltsp5 integration on debian etch
01:42
<nrdb>
Bhaskar1: there is kubuntu, its debian based, and has ltsp setup by defualt.
01:42
Bhaskar1: opps that edubuntu not kubuntu
01:43
<Bhaskar1>
nrdb, i hane Nepalinux based on debian etch so i want to integrate ltsp5 there
01:47
<nrdb>
Bhaskar1: I am not fimular enough with that, I am using ubuntu, and I have access to two packages 'ltsp-server' and 'ltsp-server-standalone' and 'ltsp-utils' that can install ltsp on my computer.
01:48
<Bhaskar1>
nrdb, ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10?
01:49
nrdb, simply installed these package to get ltsp?
01:49
<nrdb>
I am wondering if I get a high end computer using something a dual core 64bit processor, can I use that as a server for simplier clients
01:50
<sep>
Bhaskar1, debian-edu have ltsp5 out of the box, but it's usualy. 1: install packages, 2: run the chroot script ltsp-build-client, 3: configure dhcp and tftp, 4: boot your client
01:50
<Bhaskar1>
nrdb, in edubuntu ltsp 5 or ltsp <5 package is default
01:51
<nrdb>
Bhaskar1: ubuntu 6.06 - I did install these on a test install some time ago to test it, it work fine.
01:51
<sep>
Bhaskar1, ltsp-server installes the needed tools and scripts to build the ltsp chroot. ltsp-server-standalone also depends on a dhcp and tftpserver
01:52
Bhaskar1, if this is your first server that will do dhcp and tftp you can use ltsp-server-standalone
01:52
<nrdb>
Bhaskar1: I don't know what version of ltsp it was.
01:52
<sep>
Bhaskar1, but i dont know if debian packages work on Nepalinux
01:53
<Bhaskar1>
sep, ya debian package works on nepalinux
01:54
<sep>
Bhaskar1, then install ltsp-server-standalone and read the docs in there
01:55
<Bhaskar1>
sep, apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server, generate error
01:55
sep, error is:apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server
01:55
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
01:56
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
01:56
<nrdb>
Bhaskar1: doing the apt-get as the root user ?
01:57
<sep>
is another process using it?
01:57
dont do more then 1 apt-get/aptitude/dpkg at the time
01:57
<Bhaskar1>
sep, ok it start to download gcompris-data
01:57
<nrdb>
that includes package managers like synaptic.
01:57
<sep>
and adapt
01:58
<Bhaskar1>
sep, after installation of this step what to do
01:59
sep, what scripts is needed to build ltsp client environment:ltsp-build-client
02:00
sep, from where i can get it?
02:01
<sep>
read the doc
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<lzap_>
hello all
02:07
<Bhaskar1>
nrdb, how can i configure client to play music in client speaker?
02:08
nrdb, i want to play music in client speaker
02:10
sep, can u give me idea about client to play music in its speaker?
02:14
<sep>
Bhaskar1, i dont have any first hand experience with sound, but i think it's something like copy the example lts.conf file from /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-cleint/examples/ to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf; edit it with a text editor, adn make it say something like SOUND=True. and play using esd
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<nrdb>
Can I use a 64bit server and 32bit clients ?
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<nrdb>
How much ram does a client need ?
03:22
<ogra>
depends which ltsp you use ... 4.2 needs at least 32M ... ltsp5 at least 48
03:23
(these are both minimal values without network swap or anyx features like sound or local device access, if you need either of the last two, you need network swapping and should consider having at least 64M)
03:30
<lzap_>
ogra: I am getting startkde: cannot acces localhost
03:31
ogra: how do I configure LDM to connect to remote X server?
03:31
instead of localhost...
03:31
<ogra>
you cant
03:32
<lzap_>
and what should I configure to have a console on the second screen?
03:32
<ogra>
ssh should set up an "X proxy tunnel" and forwards server:0.0 to localhost:10 (or :11)
03:32
<lzap_>
SCREEN_02 = shell
03:32
<nrdb>
ogra: I presume there is a mistype there in that 32M means actually 32Kb ?
03:32
<ogra>
so if the X apps in your saession connect to the virtual DISPLAY localhost=:10 on the server, all outouzt will happen on the client
03:33
lzap_, yes, tahts right
03:33
<lzap_>
my lts.conf confituration is very small...
03:33
<ogra>
nrdb, well, a currnet linux kernel is around 6-10M :) how would even the kernel fit in 32k ?
03:34
<lzap_>
LOCALDEV=True NBD_SWAP=True LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/startkde SCREEN_02 = shell
03:34
<ogra>
lzap_, can you paste it to the pastebot ?
03:34
<lzap_>
is it ok?
03:34
<ogra>
oh207, ok
03:34
yeah, that looks right, do you have a [default] line above these ?
03:34
<lzap_>
yep
03:35
<ogra>
ok
03:35
to me it looks like your ssh server isnt really doing X forwarding
03:35
<lzap_>
I will try to login as root now
03:35
how do I check that?
03:35
<ogra>
do you have a second machine on that network, so you could try: ssh user@server xterm
03:35
err
03:35
<nrdb>
ogra: oh sorry, not thinking fully there, sorry
03:36
<ogra>
ssh -X user@server xterm
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where user must be a valid user on the server and server should be the servers IP
03:39
<lzap_>
_X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6010: Name or service not known
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xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
03:40
^^^ the result of ssh -X ....
03:42
Mandriva 2006 is known with very (stupid) restrictive security setting, cant be X Server configured not to listen on some interfaces? I have checked the firewall, its not switched on
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<lzap_>
any1?
03:52
<ogra>
its not related to X its a ssh thing
03:55
<lzap_>
got it!
03:55
I miss "localhost" in /etc/hosts!
03:56
<ogra>
ah
03:56
heh, thats evil of mandriva
03:56
i wonder how they start local services or how even a gnome login should work without lo interface
04:01
<Bhaskar1>
ogra, i have startx script to shutdown client, where should i put this script?
04:05
<lzap_>
well I think ltsp-4.2 installation overwriten it
04:06
<ogra>
ouch, it shouldnt wipe your localhost entry
04:06
<lzap_>
maybe me... I was editing it...
04:06
<ogra>
tell that to jammcq if he's around, he'll be intrested to know about
04:07
oh207, ok
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<envite>
Hello all from Spain
04:16
Hola a todos desde España
04:19
<lzap_>
now I am getting: nbd0: Attempted send on closed socket
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<lzap_>
I will try to remove SCREEN_02=shell and reboot
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<lzap_>
KDE is starting, BINGO! Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Now I need to get local devices working....
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<lzap_>
how localdev support work in LTSP-5?
04:25
I do not have icons on the desktop :-(
04:25
<ogra>
set LOCALDEV=True in lts.conf and add the user on the server to the fuse group
04:26
oh207, and make suree to have an ltspfs binary on the server
04:26
<lzap_>
ok but Mandriva doesnt have fuse grup, I changed /dev/fuse to 666
04:26
localdev is set tu True already
04:27
I will check the ltspfs binary
04:27
yes its on the server
04:27
still no icons
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<ogra>
KDE has no integration for that, look in /media/$USER for mounted devices ...
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<BlueRaid>
lzap_ in gentoo you must edit /etc/fuse.conf maybe you must do it in madravia too?
04:28
and you must set to fusemount that stickybit
04:28
<lzap_>
theres no /media in mandriva
04:28
should i create it? :-D
04:28
<ogra>
huh ?
04:29
diesntr mandriva use hal and udev ?
04:29
*doesnt
04:29
<lzap_>
yes hal and udev running
04:30
<ogra>
weird
04:30
they use these dirs for media mounting
04:30
probably mandriva does something non standard here
04:30* ogra hasnt seen a mandriva install since several years
04:31
<BlueRaid>
ogra what distri you use?
04:32
<ogra>
BlueRaid, ubuntu indeed :)
04:33
<lzap_>
/mnt contains mounted medias on the server
04:34
how localdev works in LTSP-5 ?
04:34
<BlueRaid>
Gentoo rockt
04:34
<lzap_>
BlueRaid: youre repeating a bit :-)
04:35
<ogra>
lzap_, if you plug in a device on the client, udev adds it to fstab there and executes a script on the server through an ssh tunnel ...
04:35
that script mounts the client device to your servers /media/$usre/<devicename>
04:36
<BlueRaid>
user or hostname?
04:36
<ogra>
if there were 2seconds not traffic on the interface it silently< unmounts it on the client side, but still shows the contents on the server side ... (so its unmounted and you can safely unpolug it) as soon as you access the device from the server side again it silenty mounts it in the backround
04:36
BlueRaid, username
04:37
the directory is 0600 $USER, so nobody on the server can look inside others devices
04:38
das interface soll DHCP machen ? oder isses statisch ?
04:39
<lzap_>
I am trying this in a vmware, when I connect the CDROM image (insert a CD), nothing is mounted on the client side
04:39
(no entry in "mount" command output)
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<Bhaskar1>
BlueRaid, hello
04:41
<ogra>
lzap_, so you have all the above i listed, an ltspfs binary for mandriva on the server and you are in the fuse group ?
04:41
<lzap_>
yes
04:42
<ogra>
wher did you get the ltspfs stuff ?
04:42* ogra didnt know we had ported all these scripts
04:43
<lzap_>
its scripts from 4.2 installation
04:43
its still on the server
04:44
<ogra>
no, you need the newer implementation
04:44
and to my knowledge nobody ported that yet
04:44
doews mandriva have something like alien to convert .deb packages to rpm ?
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<ogra>
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ltspfs/ has the ltspfs package we use in ubuntu ...
04:45
<elifed>
mistik1, Yo Andrew, wake up :D
04:45
<ogra>
(and in debian in the next releasse as well i think)
04:52
<lzap_>
I have downloaded http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ltspfs/ltspfs_0.4.3.orig.tar.gz
04:52
manual install will be ok?
04:53
configure: error: Package requirements (x11) were not met :-(
04:55
checking for LTSPFSD... -- what this mean?
04:56
its checking for ltspfsd? do I have install it before installing ltspfs?
04:58
<ogra>
no
04:58
the scripts you need are in the .deb package ...
05:03
<lzap_>
deb is useless for me in Mandriva
05:07
what libraries ltspfs needs?
05:07
x11-devel is already installed and configure still fails
05:07
<ogra>
thats why i asked if you have a converter tool like the other distros do
05:07
<lzap_>
ollie written this
05:08
it wont work
05:08
<ogra>
i have no clue about mandriva, sorry, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/ltspfs lists dependecies
05:08
<lzap_>
I need to compile it
05:11
<Novell>
lzap_: there's probably a config.log you can check for more clues
05:23
<envite>
Hey all
05:24
must SiS7019 soundcard still be compiled? or is it integrated in ltsp 4.2?
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<ogra>
envite, i dont thinbk anybody puts time into 4.2 development anymore ... apart from bug or security fixes
05:32
so its very likely you still have to compile it
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<jammcq>
g'morning
05:46
<BlueRaid>
morning?
05:47
<jammcq>
sure, it's morning where I am
05:47
<ogra>
jammcq, hesy
05:47
or hey even :)
05:47
<jammcq>
ogra: i'm just reading Mark's announcement about Gutsy
05:47
<ogra>
yeah
05:48
giggling gibbon :)
06:00
jammcq, we need more non english developers ...
06:00
<jammcq>
hmm, I can speak Gibberish, does that count?
06:00
<ogra>
all the bugs i get for feisty atm are localization related ...
06:00
and i'm beyond a point where i can fix much
06:00
<jammcq>
I'm giving a talk tomorrow, I can appeal to the brazilians for help in this area
06:01
<ogra>
for the gibbon at least :)
06:01
also some advertising for new dev blood would be good ;)
06:02
the new ldm will be (is already) fully transalatable ...
06:02
<jammcq>
wow, you've been busy
06:03
<ogra>
a bit easter hacking against the boredom ;)
06:03* jammcq is still burping up beef from last nite
06:03
<ogra>
you know, some people have daughters, others only ltsp :)
06:03
<jammcq>
heh
06:04
<ogra>
and ltsp didnt want to search for eggs ...
06:04
<jammcq>
heh
06:04
my youngest is 13 years old, and we STILL do the easter egg hunt
06:04
the kids love it
06:04
<ogra>
yeah, i remeber loving it when i was a child :)
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<lzap_>
who made ltspfs package?
06:21
I need to know why configure.ac contains PKG_CHECK_MODULES(LTSPFSD, [x11])
06:21
x11.pc doesnt exist in mandriva
06:21
<ogra>
lzap_, sbalneav and me together
06:22
oh207, thats an sbalneav question ... i didnt touch the autoconf stuff
06:22* ogra needs to get used to write ah instead of oh or something ... silly xchat autocompletion
06:22
<lzap_>
hehe
06:23
oh207: you must rename :-D
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<ogra>
grmbl
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<lzap_>
great
08:21
I have compiled it and trying to install it:
08:21
/usr/bin/install: cannot overwrite directory `/lib/udev' with non-directory
08:22* ogra is really surprised there is no such thing like alien in mandriva
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<lzap_>
is it ok that it installs to /usr/local ?
08:29
<ogra>
as long as thats in your path
08:29
<lzap_>
I mean - when I was trying LTSP-4.2 lots of paths were hardcoded
08:29
e.g. /usr/sbin/ltspfs etc
08:34
ok I have issued make install twice
08:34
it installed
08:35
anything to configure?
08:35
<ogra>
not sure ... just make sure to have all the python scripts you need
08:35
ther are *not in the tarball
08:35
as i said before these are only in the package
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<lzap_>
what?
08:36
omg
08:37
<ogra>
check if they are there, they might have moved since i looked last
08:37
add_fstab_entry cdpinger delayed_mounter ltspfs_mount ltspfsmounter ltspfs_umount remove_fstab_entry
08:39
<lzap_>
its all there :-)
08:39
<ogra>
ok
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<lzap_>
it seems to be installed, but when I insert a CD --- nothing
08:59
any log avaiable?
09:00
<ogra>
it should log to the servers syslog (unless mandriva forbids remote logging)
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<lzap_>
yes remote logging works
09:01
but no messages from ltspfs
09:06
when I insert a CD on the terminal, what should happen?
09:06
should it mount it shomewhere?
09:06
for 2 seconds... ?
09:09
<ogra>
no, there should be a premanent mount in /media/$user
09:09
<lzap_>
on terminal
09:09
?
09:09
<ogra>
the unmounting is happening transaparently on the client ... you wont see it
09:09
<lzap_>
theres nothing in the /media dir
09:10
no log messages
09:10
<ogra>
no, on the server
09:10
<lzap_>
yes, nothing on the server
09:10
<ogra>
on the client it will create a hidden dir in /var/run/drives
09:10
<lzap_>
whats "client", the terminal?
09:10
with ubuntu?
09:10
<ogra>
yeah
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<lzap_>
when I insert a CD and issue "mount"
09:11
there is nothing mounted to /var/run/drives...
09:11
whats wrong?
09:11
<ogra>
thats correct
09:11
if you issue mount on the client you shouldnt see the CD
09:12
but you should have an entry for it in fstab and the dir should be there .
09:12
<lzap_>
ok next step
09:12
yes
09:12
its there (in the fstab)
09:13
<ogra>
pointing to /var/run/drives/cdrom or something ...
09:13
<lzap_>
ltspfsd, cdrompinger and delayed_mounter is running...
09:13
<ogra>
good
09:13
<lzap_>
yes its pointing there
09:13
<ogra>
so the client side is working properly
09:14
check if something is in /var/log/ldm.log on the client
09:14
<lzap_>
ok
09:14
<ogra>
related to ltspfs
09:14
note that nobody has tried what you do there :)
09:15
i guess someone should package a proper rpm for ltspfs :)
09:16
<lzap_>
oops lots of messages
09:16
sending command....
09:17
exit status reply 0
09:17
<ogra>
thats normal noise ... any errors ?
09:17
<lzap_>
x error: badaccess
09:17
(attempt to access private resource denied)
09:18
<ogra>
nah, somethng ltspfs related ... thats X
09:19
<lzap_>
aah
09:19
sending /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter
09:19
<ogra>
thats good
09:19
<lzap_>
I have installed it to /usr/local
09:19
<ogra>
whats the reply to this ?
09:19
well, there should be an error about it at lest
09:19
*least
09:19
but yes, make a link :)
09:20
<lzap_>
client_input_channel_req: channel 15 rtype exit-status reply 0
09:20
<ogra>
(on the server)
09:21
<lzap_>
I have created a link
09:21
<ogra>
ok
09:21
<lzap_>
no change
09:21
same output
09:21
nothing in the /media
09:22
<ogra>
anything in the mount command on the server ?
09:23
<lzap_>
I tried to issue this on the server
09:23
error: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2 not found
09:24
because this library is in /usr/local too
09:24
omg
09:24
<ogra>
so you dont have all dependecies
09:24
ugh
09:24
yu should use your distros fuse lib
09:24
not anything selfcompiled
09:25
fuse is directly related to the kernel module, its a bad idea to use that from a third party source
09:25
<lzap_>
fuse in 2006 is unusable
09:25
buggy, old
09:25
I simply cant use it...
09:26
<ogra>
thats very bad
09:26
ltspfs is 100% fuse based
09:27
<lzap_>
I have the most recent version installed from source
09:27
in /usr/local
09:27
it should accept that things can be installed in /usr/local...
09:27
<ogra>
do you have the kernel module loaded, does your linker know about /usr/local/lib ?
09:28
<lzap_>
something like LD_LIBRARY_PATH right?
09:28
fuse is loaded yes
09:28
<ogra>
no, /etc/ld.so.conf ... and run ldconfig as root
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<lzap_>
its not there, nope
09:29
<ogra>
??
09:29
whats not there ?
09:29
<lzap_>
no entry for /usr/local/lib
09:29
made it, run the ldconfig
09:29
sec
09:29
<ogra>
right
09:30
<lzap_>
ok
09:30
no more LDD messages
09:30
<ogra>
ok, one down
09:30
<lzap_>
but Error: progam not installed setuid root: Sucess
09:31
<ogra>
/usr/bin/lbmount must be suid root
09:32
or in your case /usr/local/bin/lbmount
09:33
<lzap_>
now I have /tmp/.lzap-ltpsfs/cdrom direct
09:33
directory
09:33
is strange, I cannot change there
09:33
<ogra>
yay
09:33
<lzap_>
I cannot execute it
09:33
nothing
09:34
<ogra>
right thats wanted
09:34
fuse doesnt let you
09:34
<lzap_>
so?
09:34
<ogra>
now check if the bind mount to /media gets created as well
09:34
<SBNet>
hey, local device support, great feature
09:34
now if we can get reliable local sound we will be doing awsome
09:34
<lzap_>
yes!
09:34
<ogra>
SBNet, yeah ... especially if you try to get the ubuntu ltspfs woring on mandriva :P
09:35
<lzap_>
its there but cannot change there
09:35
<ogra>
you should be able to as the user thats logged in on the client
09:36
<SBNet>
lol
09:36
i use fedora core 6 so i don't have that problem
09:36
<lzap_>
***** IT WORKS *****
09:36
opening bottle with beer
09:36
<SBNet>
all i need to get working is nss_ldap and pam_ldap
09:36
<ogra>
yay
09:37
<lzap_>
ogra: thanks!!
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<SBNet>
so my users can login using their active directory credentials
09:37
<ogra>
SBNet, well, you will have the problem that fedora still has no ltsp5 support ...and 4.x will be dropped at some point
09:38
lzap_, youre welcome
09:38
<lzap_>
ogra: I will write a tutorial
09:38
<SBNet>
well, according to the fedora 7 list, ltsp5 will be fully supported and we be available in the repos
09:38
<ogra>
i suppose what we did is too much to document
09:38
lzap_, really ? you rock :)
09:38
<lzap_>
ogra: now I will try to compile new fuse+ltspfs for 4.2, I do not want 5.0
09:38
I would love to get it working in 4.2
09:38
<ogra>
SBNet, i havent got any patch from fedora yet ...
09:39
SBNet, and i suspect vagrantc or sbalneav neither ...
09:39
<lzap_>
ogra: well will this work in 4.2 ? I thing no, because there must be special client (the Ubuntu one), right?
09:39* vagrantc has seen nothing from the fedora crew
09:40
<ogra>
lzap_, the way we set it up now it only works in ltsp5
09:40
<lzap_>
ok so I need to upgrade our customer to LTSP-5
09:40
could I replace the UBUNTU logo with their company logo?
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<ogra>
there is a howto anywere on wiki.ubuntu.com
09:40
look for usplash
09:40
<vagrantc>
if the fedora folks are working on LTSP5 integration, they are doing so in absolute secrecy
09:41
<ogra>
yaeh, which woukd be extremly odd and evil
09:48
<SBNet>
i would post the url where they said they would support ltsp5 but the site is down for maintenance
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<ogra>
i know there was an announcement when eharrison still worked on it ... but thats obsolete
09:49
since he apparently stopped
09:49
and i havent heard from redhat since
09:51
<lzap_>
ogra: how do I connect a floppy?
09:51
<ogra>
you should be able to just plug it in and it should be mounted
09:51* ogra has no floppies, this part was written by sbalneav
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<lzap_>
and flash disc?
09:54
<ogra>
usbsticks ?fully supported
09:54
iods as well
09:54
*ipods
09:54* ogra is currently listening to his ipod stuff via rhythmbox on a hin client
09:54
<ogra>
*thin
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09:58
<lzap_>
floppy doesnt work for me
09:58
there is a fstab entry
09:58
but it doesnt show
09:59
<ogra>
you have to wait for sbalneav then ...
10:00
is that a builtin floppy or an usb one ?
10:00
<lzap_>
built
10:00
<ogra>
right, then wait for scott ...
10:01
<lzap_>
ok thanks Iam heading home for todady
10:01
today, thnx
10:01
<ogra>
ciao :)
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10:55
<SBNet>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2006-04-07?highlight=%28LTSP%29
10:55
ltsp and fedora, don't know if it's going anywhere
10:56
<cliebow_>
SBNet:i'd bet you'd love ubuntu
10:56
<SBNet>
i think i'm going to lunch be back in a little bit
10:56* cliebow_ shameless plug
10:56
<SBNet>
why? i've tried it, don't like it
10:57
<cliebow_>
aanything in particular?
10:58
<SBNet>
the feel of it and the fact that it wasn't as great as i had hoped out of the box, actually took me longer to get it working on my laptop than fedora
10:59
<cliebow_>
i can understand..it was very frustrating for me the first go around..
10:59
<vagrantc>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-education-list/2007-April/msg00000.html
10:59
yay! they're referencing the wiki.ltsp.org pages! :)
11:00
<cliebow_>
yesterday in 2 1/2 hrs i rebuuilt a server..got samba reinstated ..transferre3d my ldap dir from fedora to it..installed nx.. verified the nwea and lexia shares..
11:00
<Blinny>
cliebow_: The biggest advantage I see in Ubuntu as an administrator is the ease of upgrade.
11:00
Fedora's supported upgrade path is really 'format and reinstall'
11:00
<cliebow_>
me too..i depend heavily on nx and itr is a breeze to install in ubuntu
11:01
<Blinny>
cliebow_: I take it you're not x86_64 (;
11:01
cliebow_: and when I say 'upgrade' I guess I mean 'dist-upgrade'
11:01
<SBNet>
\be back in a few getting lunch
11:01
<cliebow_>
my laptop has gone from breezy to dapper to edgy to feisty
11:01
<Blinny>
I'm envious.
11:02
<cliebow_>
with only fairly minor diffugulties
11:02
<Blinny>
*Nod*
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<Blinny>
Yeah, I'm not saying it's not possible in FC, however it ain't pretty.
11:02
<cliebow_>
and the ppc install i think is the steadiest of them all
11:02
<Blinny>
I've taken a box from FC4-6 via yum but... yeah.
11:04
<vagrantc>
hmmm.... i guess the fedora folks aren't working in secret about LTSP integration, they're just working without talking to LTSP folks.
11:06
<Blinny>
Looks to me like it's much earlier on in the process than actual 'work' yet (; -- maybe specification phase
11:06
<cliebow_>
vagrantc: eric harrison had a start on it..havnt heard from him in a LOng time
11:07
<vagrantc>
even when we were in the same physical space, eric harrison and warren togami were very reluctant to show what they had come up with
11:07
there are references to code, but no visible code.
11:08
or, i guess, references to "work" but no visible code.
11:08
<Blinny>
Competition between distros of that nature isn't helpful in the grand scheme.
11:10
<vagrantc>
no, that's why i've tried to be as available as possible.
11:10
i don't want to see some major code fork
11:10
<cliebow_>
for sure..
11:11
it is not really rocket science making it work..optimising it is an entirely different stry
11:11
<vagrantc>
and i know there are probably some debian-isms in the code. i'd rather hear what those are and fix them than have people just assume all the work we've done is totally distro-specific.
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<Blinny>
I've wondered my Eric Harrison isn't in this room. Seems funny that, building his house using these materials, he's not here discussing these materials.
11:16
*Shrug*
11:17
:s;my;why
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<cliebow_>
Blinny: he is in once in a while..its been a long time though..He has been very available in persson..at ltsp san francisco...ltsp by the sea..linuxworld..in the past
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<SBNet>
i'm backkkkk! lol :)
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<Blinny>
cliebow_: Well, that makes me feel a bit better about using the K12 variant.
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<cliebow_>
Blinny:yeah eric has long been an integral part
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<Blinny>
I have a few i810 chipsets that are using the vesa driver. To change, is it as simple as adding an 'XSERVER=i810' in lts.conf for that machine?
12:19
or is it a X4_MODULE_01 ?
12:20
I think I'm confusing my servers and modules.
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<cliebow_>
Blinny:yes as simple as xserver=i810 should do it.cetainly does in 4.2
12:25
<Blinny>
cliebow_: Thank you.
12:26
<cliebow_>
8~)
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<tsurc>
We've just bought some HP T5725's (very nice machines) with Sis graphics and sound, what options am I likely to need to get the best from them?
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<tsurc>
were in an 800+ pupil school in the UK... so I really want to impress with this setup.
12:38
<cliebow_>
tsurc:jammcq may know em..he is at fisl
12:39
<dan__t>
'morning.
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<tsurc>
thanks, we've had ubuntu and ltsp4.2 working for a while, and we've used open source for the past 5 years or so.
12:43
<cliebow_>
tsurc:where/
12:43
?
12:43
<tsurc>
But we've just been given Maths and Computing Specialist status...... so the opportunities for really sowing off and making a difference are great
12:43
Skegness, Lincs
12:45
<cliebow_>
looking..
12:45
<tsurc>
case study is on the ubuntu website... but is a little inaccurate. Like is wasn't me that made the jump my boss did, I only came here about 2 years ago.
12:46
search for Alistair Crust.... you'll bount to find my ugly mug somewhere.
12:46
<cliebow_>
heh!
12:47
name rins a bell
12:47
<tsurc>
camera shy me... don't know why because in my spare time I freelance as a photographer.
12:48
all good I hope?
12:49
<cliebow_>
ahhh tsurc makes sense now
12:49
<tsurc>
always been a bit backwards me ;)
12:49
<cliebow_>
i tried that it always came out "wobbly"
12:50
<tsurc>
or at least thats what the wife keeps telling me
12:53
<cliebow_>
heh..sorry,,im ankle deep in an ibook
12:54* ogra tries not to imagine cliebow with ibook shoes now ...
12:54
<cliebow_>
it IS job security..
12:54
<ogra>
heh
12:56
<tsurc>
job security... whats that. I like it here but at the current pay my job might not be the best job i'VE EVER TAKEN.
12:57
<cliebow_>
i know what you mean..
12:57
<tsurc>
and this caps lock key is going the get thrown out the window I'm going to make in my office wall if I CAnt get it to stop sticking !!
12:58
<cliebow_>
but at least i have leave to do my other job on the ocean..
12:58
<tsurc>
?
12:58
<cliebow_>
I always rip those off my keyboards first thing
13:00
<tsurc>
takes the... er... biscuit, I'm 25 married (no kids) and still living with my parents cos we can't afford a mortgage...
13:00
<ogra>
what about a rent ?
13:01
<tsurc>
wasted cash
13:01
rather wait and invest
13:01
<ogra>
well, here in germany you have more rented flats than owned houses ...
13:01
seems the US way is exactly the opposite
13:01
<cliebow_>
tsurc: if you had to buy could you? i mean it doesnt sound like in England you really own land
13:02
<tsurc>
snap... or at least it seams like it getting that way now.
13:04
yeh, you just need enough cash to start with. Once you have a reasonable amount of cash it just kinda multiplies
13:04
but getting up to that amount is a nightmare.
13:06
rich get richer.. poor get poorer. Education workers get taken for a ride, while heads are demanding high salaries, some are worth it some are not.
13:07
The government may be able to pay better if they didn't waste taxpayers money on propriety software.
13:09
thats another reason I want to showcase these Terminals we have.. prove that open source is a really good technically better product to use....with the benefit of being cheaper that the stuff M$ charges an arm and a small department
13:09
for
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<cliebow_>
tsurc: it is the little niggles that keep us in the Stone Age here..
13:24
<tsurc>
tell me about it, we have our own in house MIS based on zope and postgress called scholarpack thats a little like that. My boss will program a module to a brief.... then they'll say well we don't want it like that. or it works but not quite right.
13:25
but we're using it in production to do e-registering with and effort/atainment grades, reports, behaviour and the like. saves us a bundle rather than paying Capita for Integris
13:26
..with pda's and...
13:26
or SIMS
13:26
<cliebow_>
most of what ive done revolves around ldap..little guis to add users groups add from cvs
13:26
passwords
13:27
<tsurc>
yeh... I'm interested in LDAP, tying in the windows side of our network, Email, Intranet side etal
13:28
but every time I'v looked into learning about it, something comes up and I've had to divert my attentions else where
13:29
<ltsppbot>
"douglas_aaaaa" pasted "http://irc.netsplit.de/channel" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/97
13:29
<cliebow_>
i can send you a bash script if you like
13:30
<tsurc>
yeh cool
13:31
<cliebow_>
got an addy..or should i put a tar.gz up somewhere?
13:33
<tsurc>
we have 3 LTSP servers, all with DHPCD's and TFTPD. Some very primitive load balancing, but authentication from a central point is a nightmare.
13:35
<Blinny>
Every time I've tried even simple things using LDAP (for instance, Thunderbird shared address book), I've been thwarted.
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<Blinny>
I tried authenticating to it, but the one time my connection went down EVERYTHING died, so it took forever to failover to backup auth just to log in.. even rudimentary commands took 5 minutes or more.
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<tsurc>
Now where it would be good for me, Is when we get new intake in September I have to create this account, and that account, all for one pupil.... we have a turnover of 150 pupils every year so that allot of unnecessary work.
13:40
<cliebow_>
tsirc:i fired it off..i think i left notes on idiosyncrasies of ldap in feisty
13:41
Blinny..that script started off from Eric Harrison 8)
13:41
tsurc:mine is all divided up by year of graduation..
13:42
i wrote a little perl script to create a csv file..then feed that into an adduser loop
13:43
<tsurc>
year grouping is good here. Pupils come up from Primary school at 11-12years old. Start in September and stay for 5 years... or 7 if you include 6th form
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<tsurc>
5years is compulsory. the extra 2 are not
13:46
right got to go. The wife finishes work at 8pm and is 20 mins away. its now 7:45pm. Think I'll be in the dog house tonight ;)
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<douglas_a>
hello... when one client starts the pxe, the kernel is loaded... and after, i have one problema with the frequency of the monitor... someboy cold help me?
13:49
<cliebow_>
kaminski-FISL, make sure jammcq has a bite or two for me
13:50
so you get to a login in..ubuntu? feisty? ltsp5?
13:50
<kaminski-FISL>
cliebow: lol..
13:50
ok
13:50
<cliebow_>
thanks ~
13:50
<kaminski-FISL>
Ill eta a lot too
13:51
eat
13:51
;)
13:51
they were here talking with us
13:52
<cliebow_>
any live cams?
13:52
<kaminski-FISL>
no... but we have some photos
13:52
<cliebow_>
up somewhere?
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<jammcq>
hey all
13:53
<kaminski-FISL>
jammcq: hi
13:53
<cliebow_>
speakin of the divvil
13:53
<joebaker>
hey
13:53
<jammcq>
kaminski-FISL: HEY, it feels great to get back on the net
13:53
<kaminski-FISL>
jammcq: yes... now I can access
13:53
<jammcq>
it's been a very rough morning, with no internet connectivity
13:53
<kaminski-FISL>
lol
13:53
<cliebow_>
i was sitting here eating an twp day old sandwich thinking of you
13:53
<joebaker>
Wow. you're down in Brazil?
13:53
<kaminski-FISL>
now its working
13:53
<jammcq>
joebaker: yep
13:54
<ogra>
jammcq, !
13:54
<kaminski-FISL>
jammcq: and about the churrascaria?
13:54* cliebow_ cliebow drools
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<ogra>
jammcq, feisty is delayed :/
13:55
<douglas_a>
hello... when one client starts the pxe, the kernel is loaded... and after, i have one problema with the frequency of the monitor... someboy cold help me?
13:55
<cliebow_>
douglas_a, distro?ltsp version?
13:55
vid card of client?
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<douglas_a>
[cliebow_]: distro kurumin ltsp 4.1
13:56
kurumin is based on debian...
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<rgusso-ltsp-br>
hey jammcq
13:57
<jammcq>
hello rgusso-ltsp-br
13:57
<rgusso-ltsp-br>
how I slow down the optic mouse speed in lts.conf?
13:57
<cliebow_>
douglas_a, can you determina a modeline for that monitor/
13:58
<rgusso-ltsp-br>
how I slow down the optic mouse speed in lts.conf?
13:58
sry
13:58
<douglas_a>
the vid card is realtek 8139
13:59
cliebow_ i have tested on lcd from lg, and rct samsung
14:01
<cliebow_>
that sure sounds like a nic..or am i wrong.
14:01
<jammcq>
the video card is DEFINATELY NOT a 8139
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<douglas_a>
sorry, is rtl8130...
14:02
<jammcq>
no it's not
14:02
realtek doesn't make video cards
14:02
<douglas_a>
just a minute please... i will look for..
14:02* ogra guesses sis or S3
14:03
<dberkholz>
`lspci | grep VGA` generally works
14:04
<rgusso-ltsp-br>
jammcq: hey, where is scot?
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<ogra>
dberkholz, pfft ... always the easy way ... why did god let screwdrivers grow ?
14:07
<jammcq>
scott is in the auditorium, listening to a talk about Java
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<douglas_a>
i dont have any linux installed on the client to see by lscpi | grep VGA....
14:08
i am trying to look at mother board...
14:08
the video card is embedeed
14:08* ogra was only jokin ...
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<douglas_a>
jammcq i could'not locate the name of the card video... i know that the mother board is one megatrends (i dont know de model) and the video is on board... (8 mb)...
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<ogra>
douglas_a, set SCREEN_01=shell in your lts.conf and boot the client
14:12
then you can issue the command
14:13
<douglas_a>
ok... i will try... i have to disconect to teste... i will back... thanks ogra...
14:14
ogra... i look at the lts.conf ... i have tryed SCREEN_01=shell whitout success
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<ogra>
did you press alt-f1 after you booted ? SCREEN_01=shell forces the system to run a shell on terminal one ...
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<cliebow_>
borked ..brb
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<CyberScript32_>
i think that the problem is after initrd.... when the kernel is loaded i see the problem with the scream... when i put SCREEN_01=shell, the system runs a shel because i put init 0 and the system halt... but i can't see anything...
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<joebaker>
ping
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<bo1>
I want to boot an ltsp client image from a CF flash configured as an ide device or a cdrom (IE without the netboot), Can someone point me to some docs on how to do that ?
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<joebaker>
ogra: On this vnc4server issue I saw something about a pulse-rt group ownership error.
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<daniQ>
cliebow - ello!!!
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<cliebow>
Yo!
16:27
daniQ, Yo ho
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<daniQ>
how is rosie?
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<cliebow>
greaa
16:31
t
16:31
t
16:32
still got the saucer on..but seems very good
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<paavum>
Hi?
16:44
hey, ummm kin anybody gimme a hand? I'm trying to get a bluetooth headset working in ltsp
16:45
ltsp 5
16:48
EEEECHOOOO
16:48
eeechoooooo
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chooooo
16:48
ooooo
16:48
!paavuk
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<ltspbot>
paavum: Error: "paavuk" is not a valid command.
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<paavum>
!paavum
16:48
<ltspbot>
paavum: Error: "paavum" is not a valid command.
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<paavum>
!help
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<ltspbot>
paavum: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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<paavum>
!help learn
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<ltspbot>
paavum: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
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<paavum>
!learn paavum god
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<ltspbot>
paavum: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<jammcq>
ogra: ping
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<NefariousAryq>
Wahoooooooooooooooooo I got firefox running on my thin client as a local application from a usb memory stick. *Love* me some LTSP! :)
22:17
anyone here tonight? :)
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22:18* vagrantc claps
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<vagrantc>
NefariousAryq: why on usb stick?
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<NefariousAryq>
It loaded *very* slowly when running it as a local application from the nfs mount... I dont know why... but it was VERY slow to load.
22:20
I mean, its kinda slow to load from the usb stick, but ... not near as bad.
22:25
We have an interesting setup. heh.
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<NefariousAryq>
I am having one problem. I'm trying to launch firefox from my .xsession file. Except I keep getting an error that the file doesnt exist in ~/Drives/CruzerMicro/firefox/ ... in my .xsession-errors file. Except... When I put an xterm in my xsession file... I can see that infact ~/Drives/CruzerMicro/firefox *does* exist.
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(hope that made sense)
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<NefariousAryq>
Anyone?
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<vagrantc>
NefariousAryq: are you running it as a local app, or remotely? it sounds like you're trying to run it through ltspfs ... ?
23:04
<NefariousAryq>
I thought I was running it locally... When I can see the ~/Drives/CruzerMicro folder from the xterm in my .xsession file, I can run it there, manually, and it loads: ~/Drives/CruzerMicro/firefox & ... and the light on the flash drive flashes away and Firefox loads.
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<vagrantc>
is xterm running locally?
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how is it set up?
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i.e. how are you logging in?
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<NefariousAryq>
I'll try to explain in the best way I can, I'm really bad about trying to explain stuff I dont necesarily understand myself... *grin*
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<vagrantc>
maybe post your lts.conf to the pastebot, for starters ... could save some explanatio
23:07
n
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<NefariousAryq>
Sure. Gimme just a sec to pull it from the servah. :)
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<ltsppbot>
"NefariousAryq" pasted "My lts.conf" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/98
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<NefariousAryq>
There ya go.
23:10
Theres that.
23:23
Let me switch gears for a second... Before getting into that.
23:23* vagrantc forgot to look at the lts.conf
23:24* vagrantc looks now
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<NefariousAryq>
Should a usb flash drive that is plugged into the thin client *before* the thin client boots up get automatically found/mounted? Or does the local device access stuff only mount it if its plugged in when the client is on?
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<vagrantc>
should happen either way
23:25
so ... i see you have "SCREEN_01 = shell" .... how are you starting X ?
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<NefariousAryq>
I just changed that cuz I was doing some testing. when its = shell, I just type 'startx'... usually I have that to the other option.
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<vagrantc>
ok ... so the "startx" screen session will log you into the server.
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<NefariousAryq>
(Hrmmm, my usb stick doesnt look like its getting mounted at boot when the client turns on... that could be a bigger issue than the othe).
23:27
<vagrantc>
so that your xterm is running on the server ... and therefore ~/Drives will be files on the server ...
23:27
so then running the firefox from there is actually running on the server, from a device mounted on the thin client ...
23:28
you would need to do something like ... "ssh -X ip.of.thin.client firefox" to be running it "locally"
23:28
though, we're talking about local apps with ltsp 4.2 here, which i'm pretty weak on, having never actually used ltsp 4.2
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<NefariousAryq>
Well, in my .xaccess file... I do ssh into the terminal, and run a script called "localapps.sh", which is in ~.
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and localapps.sh is whats acctually calling firefox.
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(or trying to)
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<vagrantc>
ah. ok ... sounds better.
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<paavum>
Hi?
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<NefariousAryq>
vagrantc: .xsession does some other stuff it needs to do, then it does: exec ssh $USER env DISPLAY=:0.0 ~/localapps.sh
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<vagrantc>
paavum: how have your ltsp adventures gone?
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<NefariousAryq>
localapps.sh does.... ~/Drives/CruzerMicro/firefox & [next line] xscreensaver & [next line] icewm [end]
23:31
<paavum>
vagrantc ... well I have basic functionality
23:31
came here earlier but I guess you guys were meditating ;)
23:31
<vagrantc>
heh
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<paavum>
anyway... I came by to see if anybody could gimme a hand installing a bluetooth headphone on ltsp
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<vagrantc>
NefariousAryq: ah, so the ~/.xsession on the server has no window manager running?
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<paavum>
if youre not being able to login
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ack
23:32
NefariousAryq ... whats ur prob?
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<vagrantc>
NefariousAryq: so, essentially you're running everything locally ... ? why log into the server then?
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<paavum>
vagrantc ... another q is... how on earth do I set the proper locale settings to be able to install the debian packages with apt or dpkg
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<vagrantc>
paavum: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg-reconfigure locales
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<NefariousAryq>
Basically. Theres some files I have mounted that I need access to, and obviously I need /home/ ... is there another way to do what Im trying to do? I was just assuming in how to go about what I was doing, modifying a working ltsp setup that ran stuff on the server, to this. :)
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<paavum>
vperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
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locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
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<vagrantc>
paavum: LC_ALL=C chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg-reconfigure locales
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<paavum>
thats what I get when I do the dpkg-reconfigure --locale
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<vagrantc>
not --locale
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<paavum>
ocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
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locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
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yeah its locales I'm running
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<vagrantc>
cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/locale.gen
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<paavum>
nothing there
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<vagrantc>
how did you build /opt/ltsp/i386 ?
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<paavum>
tarball :P
23:40
<vagrantc>
is this a debian or ubuntu tarball ?
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<paavum>
ubuntu edgy
23:40
<vagrantc>
ah.
23:40* vagrantc doesn't know locale stuff for ubuntu
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<vagrantc>
probably something like: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install langpack-FOO
23:41
on debian systems, the locale stuff just works for quite a while now :)
23:42
well, i'm sure there's problems ...
23:42
<paavum>
so I should migrate to debian?
23:42
its just downloading another tarball :P
23:42
<vagrantc>
well, you just need to ask someone who knows the locale stuff
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it shouldn't be real hard to do.
23:43
<paavum>
anybody here knows locales for ubuntu?
23:43* vagrantc might try and make some patches to add support for ubuntu someday
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<paavum>
its weird... I've read some forums
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and no luck
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anyway...
23:44
I'm trying to run local apps
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(dosbox)
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and I cant seem to get it right :(
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Any suggestions?
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<vagrantc>
how have you tried to configure local apps ?
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<paavum>
umm I followed the wiki
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<vagrantc>
for ltsp 4.2 ?
23:46
<paavum>
yeah :(
23:46
I set up most of the YP stuff
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and the SSH-keys
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<vagrantc>
there's no built-in support for local apps on any of the ltsp 5 implementations that i know of
23:47
<paavum>
damn! I changed to ltsp5 to be able to run local apps easily
23:47
<vagrantc>
well ...
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<paavum>
somewhere I read it would be as easy as chroot and then apt-get install
23:47
:/
23:47
<vagrantc>
you can run ALL applications locally fairly easily
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but there is no built-in support for it.
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and running some applications locally is possible, but requires more work.
23:48
<paavum>
vagrantc ... can you help me get that done?
23:49
<vagrantc>
i need to sleep soon... maybe tomorrow
23:49
<paavum>
ool
23:49
I was thinking on crashin myself
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<vagrantc>
but you have to promise to document it and post it to a wiki :)
23:49
<paavum>
U got msn pal?
23:49
Of course
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most of the time I always do that :P
23:49
<vagrantc>
no, i just use irc
23:50
<paavum>
ok what time will u be here my friend?
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<vagrantc>
on and off throughout the day ...
23:51
maybe as soon as 9 hours from now
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<paavum>
what time is it there?
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<vagrantc>
Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:52:48 -0600
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give or take a little
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<paavum>
hrmmm exactly the same time
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ah no
23:53
I lie
23:53
its 23.53 here
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ok we meet in 9hrs then
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<vagrantc>
well, i said maybe :P
23:53* vagrantc is being non-committal
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<paavum>
lol
23:53* paavum is not looking for marriage
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<paavum>
lol
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ok dude
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I'll b seeing ya tomorrow
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thnx
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<NefariousAryq>
vagrantc, you still here? I have a development, I'd like to run past ya, if you have a second
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<vagrantc>
NefariousAryq: go for it
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<NefariousAryq>
Alright. So I told ya I could run ~/Drives/CruzerMicro/firefox from the xterm *on* the terminal itself, but I was mistaken. I was running it from an xterm on the client connected to the server. so it was taking firefox from the thin client, running it on the server, and displaying it to the client. *laugh* MY BAD.
23:57
So.
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I got an xterm running in that localapps.sh script, an xterm actually running ON the server.
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err.
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ON the CLIENT.
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and it, infact, can not see ~/Drives/CruzerMicro/
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even tho the server *can* see /home/ws127/Drives/CruzerMicro/firefox
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<vagrantc>
yes, that's how ltspfs works.
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<NefariousAryq>
oh..
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<vagrantc>
it doesn't mount on the thin-client