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Channel log from 23 September 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<muppis>
elias_a, yes. FF suggest to open file evince like it does normally.
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<elias_a>
muppis: And you are running FF as an local application instead of FF run totally on the server?
00:34
Just to make sure...
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<elias_a>
muppis: If you already answered to my last question please repeat - I closed my IRC client for a moment.
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<muppis>
elias_a, I didn't. Sure thing FF is runned as local application, it's in school. ;)
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<muppis>
alkisg, I figured out the printer problem had yesterday. I did read the manual. ;)
00:47
<alkisg>
muppis: nice, but I didn't read about your printer problem yesterday :)
00:47
<muppis>
Oh, sorry. It was Appiah .)
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<elias_a>
muppis: You are the first one to report that opening PDF reader directly from a localapps browser works.
00:48
I guess I have to setup a server as well to test it...
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<alkisg>
If evince is installed to the chroot, or if .pdf files are associated with `ltsp-remoteapps evince` and remote apps are enabled, it would work... otherwise, nope :)
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<muppis>
elias_a, and funny about this is, I just told in the phone to my co-worker to install evince in chroot and he has less exprience from ltsp than me.
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<elias_a>
Wow :)
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<muppis>
Got it working?
01:27
<elias_a>
Nope - I was just commenting. Have to do other stuff first.
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<Appiah>
huh ?! :)
01:46
muppis so what was the printer issue?
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<muppis>
Appiah, thin has a local (usb attached) printer and it wanted to be default only for that one thin.
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<Appiah>
you wanted to share a printer attached to a thin client?
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<gnunux>
hi
01:51
<muppis>
Got it working before asked, but I (as root) changed default printer but it has global effect, which was not desired. Wanted that local printer to be default for only that one thin (because only client in room) no matter who is logged in on that thin.
01:51
I mean, got sharing working.
01:52
<Appiah>
ah ok
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<muppis>
Then RTFM..
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<muppis>
Nice. Boss just said we're getting more ltsp related customers. :)
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<dserban>
so ltsp-remoteapp works?
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<cyberorg>
dserban, yes
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<dserban>
:o ... rough, it doesn't for me.
03:59
Is it recent?
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<cyberorg>
i tested it on ltsp-5.2.4
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<dserban>
hmm I'm running 5.2.2
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<cyberorg>
you need ltsp-remoteappsd running on the fatclient you run "ltsp-remoteapps xyz" from
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<dserban>
oh it's a thinclient does that matter?
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<cyberorg>
what exactly are you trying to do?
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<dserban>
oh run evince .. icedove (thunderbird) on the remote server via the firefox (iceweasel) localapp
04:04
on the thin client
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<cyberorg>
try ltsp-localapps xterm, from there run ltsp-remoteappsd and in another local xterm, ltsp-remoteapps evince
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<dserban>
k
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<cyberorg>
i don't know if you have to add /usr/bin/evince script that runs "ltsp-remoteapps evince" in the client chroot, may be someone else knows
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<dserban>
sr/lib/perl5/SVN
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./backups/servers/janus/usr/lib/perl5/auto/SVN
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./backups/servers/janus/usr/bin/svn
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./backups/servers/apollo/usr/share/doc/lm-sensors/doc/svn
04:09
aww crap sorry
04:10
what I meant to toss in here is: bash: ltsp-remoteappsd: command not found
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<cyberorg>
bzr clone the code and copy ltsp-remoteapps* files from ltsp-trunk/localapps/
04:12
file a bug report, packaging needs to be fixed to copy those files in /usr/bin in ltsp-client package
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<dserban>
aye I found it under /usr/share/ltsp
04:13
ok, so I ran the remoteappsd, and now in another local xterm, I cannot run evince...
04:13
it takes the command, yet does nothing
04:13
do i need to enable anything in lts.conf?
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<cyberorg>
ran ltsp-remoteappsd in one local terminal and in another local terminal ltsp-remoteapps evince?
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<dserban>
aye
04:16
odd..
04:16
after looking at the terminal that I started ltsp-remoteappsd on, when I type in the other terminal to start evince, ... I get the usage message for ssh
04:17
I ran the remoteappsd as root .. and the user
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<elias_a>
Wow -I think we are again talking about this: http://marc.info/?l=ltsp-discuss&m=127565968923168&w=2
04:17
Or are we?
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<RicardoPerez>
hi all
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<dserban>
elias_a: not sure, cyberorg claims it's working and tested
04:18
<RicardoPerez>
stgraber: thank you very much for building italc 1.0.11 :)
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<cyberorg>
hmm, looks like ltsp-remoteappsd needs to be running as root
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<dserban>
ok as root, I run it and it just returns to the prompt
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<RicardoPerez>
stgraber: unfortunately, it's uninstallable on Lucid due to unresolved dependency: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) :(
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<cyberorg>
dserban, strange, now it does not get socket address, just runs ssh -Y -t -S 'command' it should have socket afer -S
04:29
look in /var/run/ldm_socket*, export LDM_SOCKET=/var/run/.... ltsp-remoteappsd
04:32
also export LDM_SERVER
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ah, just set REMOTE_APPS=true in lts.conf
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<invito>
Hello:) I am about to run LTSP in a classroom environment, but i would like to configure that they cannot log in with the same username on multiple computers
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<RicardoPerez>
invito: did you try LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION=True in lts.conf?
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<invito>
i can try, but i am having a hard time finding the lts.conf, i am using edubuntu 10.04
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<muppis>
By default, it doesn't exist.
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<RicardoPerez>
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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create it
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<invito>
ok
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<invito>
ok, about the lts.conf and LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION=True, is there anything else i need to put in that file? i am a little new about this.
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<muppis>
invito, that is a good start. Take a look at this http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
07:18
<invito>
ok, ill have a look at that. thx :)
07:20
<muppis>
Also Ubuntu LTSP Wiki
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<invito>
okay, lts.conf seems to be applied on booting now, and when i log in with an account, and move to another computer with same account, i throws out the other one.
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<Blinny>
Is LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION available for the LTSP in Ubuntu Hardy 8.04.4? (ltsp-server-standalone version 5.0.40~bzr20080212-0ubuntu7)
07:45
I'm doing a homebrew method now that doesn't always work.
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<jammcq>
good morning friends
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<jammcq>
hey, can someone go to http://www.ltsp.org and click on the 'Wiki' link?
08:31
I'm having a problem. the wiki comes up, but the ad-banner at the top of the screen is covering up the links for logging in
08:31
and before I report that to SourceForge, I want to make sure it's not just me
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<highvoltage>
good morning jammcq
08:32
<jammcq>
hey highvoltage
08:32
<highvoltage>
jammcq: same happens here
08:32
<jammcq>
damn advertising
08:32
<_UsUrPeR_>
jammcq: adblock pro is working for me 8)
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<highvoltage>
jammcq: I guess it must also affect 1000s of other sourceforge wikis so it will probably get fixed soon :)
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<jammcq>
_UsUrPeR_: that's good that the adblock is working, but SF needs to know they broke something
08:33
<_UsUrPeR_>
true. did you specify the size of the banner allowed?
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<jammcq>
_UsUrPeR_: we don't have control over that
08:37
I've reported it, so at least they will know about it
08:37
a work-around is to go to the sourceforge.net page and log in there. then you'll still be logged in when you go back to the wiki page
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<sidartha>
Is there anyone around who can help me set up shared access for local-apps?
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<Kyle__>
shared access?
16:25* Kyle__ hasn't done anything with local apps, or even "real" thin clients, just fat clients.
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<Kyle__>
If I installed the ltsp-server package on a different distro, I could move my images from ubuntu over to it pretty easily right?
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<sidartha>
What I want is the ability for a local_app. For instance openoffice, to have user1 create a file in a shared folder but allow urer2 the ability to read write, etc.
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I can set permissions for folders but they dont seem to inherit the permissions of the files.
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<Kyle__>
sidartha: Oh. You just need to make sure they're creating files in a group they both belong to, and with the right mask.
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<sidartha>
they are all in the same group. whats this about a mask?
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<Kyle__>
umask.
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Step one, read up on it :) it's a vital, if often ignored, part of unix and unix like systems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask
16:31* Kyle__ frowns.
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<Kyle__>
sidartha: Did you set the group permissions, or the sgid permission on that directory?
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<sidartha>
No I just created the users and assigned them to a group called students
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<Kyle__>
sidartha: and you changed the group-ownership of the directory to students?
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<sidartha>
I then created a folder owned by root, that allows read write access by all users
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<Kyle__>
sidartha: Change the group-ownership to student, and set the sgid bid.
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<Kyle__>
sidartha: chown :students <whatever your directory is>
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sidartha: chmod g+s <whatever your directory is>
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sidartha: That shoul ddo it, if I'm not fogretting something.
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<sidartha>
Let me check.
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that give the group access, but they cant write.
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<vagrantc>
g+wrxs
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<Kyle__>
sidartha: Well then use chmod to give them write access.
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Like vagrantc said.
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<vagrantc>
chmod g+wrxs should give write, read, execute and setgid
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<sidartha>
ok that works, sorry I am new to linux
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<Kyle__>
sidartha: Ah I see :)
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<sidartha>
however still if user1 creates a file user2 can not edit it
16:47* Kyle__ swears.
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<Kyle__>
Is there any nice/clean way of restarting the clients? I updated and bounced the server...forgot to power off the fat clients.
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Now I can ssh in, but not sudo, or reboot... can't even ctrl+alt+del them while standing infront of them!
16:50* Kyle__ grumbles.
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<vagrantc>
whoah.
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ssh -o CheckHostIP=no
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would be a really useful default for ldm
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then ltsp-update-sshkeys wouldn't have to generate a key for each hostname entry...
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<Kyle__>
vagrantc: I've never even heard of that option before.
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