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Channel log from 16 September 2011   (all times are UTC)

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05:11
<alkisg>
Good morning
05:11
damormino: oneiric is still in development, of course you can expect problems
05:11
The previous Long Term Support Ubuntu Release is 10.04, it should be much easier to setup
05:12
And when 11.10 is released, you can directly upgrade to it
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05:13
<alkisg>
*oops sorry no, you can directly upgrade to 12.04 which will be an LTS too, when it's released
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09:05
<garymc>
Hi Guys can anyone help me get the Network printer working for my FAT clients
09:11
Any Hyperbyte or Alkisg about today ? :P
09:11
<alkisg>
garymc: again, please DON'T ping specific persons :)
09:11
Anyway... here it is:
09:11
!learn fatclient-printers as You can publish printers on your network so that fat clients see them, by launching "system-config-printer" and selecting Server → Settings → Publish shared printers connected to this system
09:11
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
09:25
<garymc>
so i do that in the GUI?
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09:29
<garymc>
alkisg that command system-config-printer fails in terminal
09:31
<alkisg>
garymc: when you say "fails", we can't help unless you tell us the exact error message
09:32
That command needs a GUI, you can't run it from ssh
09:32
<garymc>
command not found
09:32
ok i was in gUI terminal
09:32
<alkisg>
OK go to system > settings > printers
09:32
(or similar, I don't have english menus)
09:32
<garymc>
ok
09:32
where are you from?
09:32
<alkisg>
That's where the system-config-printer command would get you
09:32
Greece
09:33
<garymc>
ahhh nice
09:33
ok im in printing
09:33
<alkisg>
Do the other steps now, with the menus that I said
09:33
Server → Settings → Publish shared printers connected to this system
09:34
<garymc>
settings is not lit. It wont let me click it
09:34
do I need to do this from the actual server maybe?
09:35
<alkisg>
Υεσ
09:35
Yes
09:35
Because of policykit restrictions
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11:48
<garymc>
alkisg : Cheers the printer is now visible :)
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12:42
<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
12:42
<alkisg>
Hi mgariepy
12:44* muppis is streching and thinking could leave from work to home for a weekend.
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13:49
<TheMatrix3000>
!firefox-lock
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<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: Error: "firefox-lock" is not a valid command.
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<TheMatrix3000>
!firefox-lockdown
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<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: Error: "firefox-lockdown" is not a valid command.
13:49
<TheMatrix3000>
!firefox
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<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: Error: "firefox" is not a valid command.
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<TheMatrix3000>
!sabayon-crash
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<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: sabayon-crash: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon/+bug/778676/comments/4
13:52
<TheMatrix3000>
!learn #ltsp firefox-lockdown as http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/lock-firefox-6-prefs-also-versions-3-4-5
13:52
<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: The operation succeeded.
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<TheMatrix3000>
!firefox-lockdown
13:53
<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: firefox-lockdown: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/lock-firefox-6-prefs-also-versions-3-4-5
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<TheMatrix3000>
!directx
14:17
<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: directx: If you want to turn off encryption to the workstation, which will speed up performance at the cost of security, you need to specify LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file. Type !docs in IRC to get a link to the current documentation
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<garymc>
alkisg : Cheers the printer is now visible :)
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17:32
<TheMatrix3000>
for monitoring ltsp traffic from the server, what do you guys recommend
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17:44
<TheProf>
Good day. I recently got a new ltsp server up and running beautifully. I rsync'd all the user's home directories over, and I somehow messed up all the permissions! Everything is now owned by root rather than the user. I know I can use 'chown -R user:group . and restore it for each directory, but is there some magic to do it for ALL users at once? :)
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<alkisg>
cd /home; for u in *; do echo sudo chown -R $u:$u $u; done
17:47
<shawnp0wers>
TheProf: I'd use a for loop. something like "for x in `ls /home` do"
17:48
yes, alkisg is wise. :)
17:48
<alkisg>
It'll fail for "lost+found", but shouldn't matter
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<shawnp0wers>
TheProf: Make sure your user's directory permissions are sane as well.
17:49
<TheProf>
alkisg, that is a very cool line.
17:49
<shawnp0wers>
(but dont' do chmod's recursively, that might get ugly)
17:49
<TheProf>
shawnp0wers, I'm not too familiar with directories the way I am with file permissions.
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18:55
<damormino>
Why would Ubuntu 10.04 be a better choice for an LTSP server than 11.04? Both are LTS (long-term support), and 11.04 is newer and the current release.
18:56
<alkisg>
damormino: 11.04 is not LTS
18:56
LTS releases are every 2 years
18:58
<damormino>
Oh yes. You are very correct. 10.04 is current LTS. Thank you.
18:58
<mmetzger>
Anyone seen an issue where a thin client presents a screen that is "double-wide"? (But other clients don't?)
18:59
<alkisg>
In dual screen?
18:59
<mmetzger>
Maybe that's it...
18:59
Only one screen enabled, but it acts like there's two...
19:00
<alkisg>
Ah, and you only see half of the screen? With e.g. the login box at the right side?
19:01
<mmetzger>
Login box is in the middle
19:01
but yeah, only hthe right half
19:01
<Hyperbyte>
mmetzger, common problem. Which hardware?
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<alkisg>
I think something similar was reported for some intel-based thin clients, and the solution is to pass video=lvds-1:d in the command line, or something like that
19:03
<mmetzger>
Hyperbyte: One of Diskless workstation's Atom clients - the 1720
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19:04
<Hyperbyte>
mmetzger, ah.
19:04
Then I have just the thing for you
19:04
http://secondary.recreatie-zorg.nl:8080/~jan/1720_fix.sh
19:04
This file
19:04
Download it, chmod +x <file>
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And then 'sudo <file>'
19:05
That's the fix DLWS provided to me by the way. It's a common problem with the LTSP Term 1720 and Ubuntu 11.04
19:05
<mmetzger>
cool - thank you
19:05
<Hyperbyte>
As alkisg said, by default it enables a third display connection it has on-board (not used)...
19:06
Screen is extended to that one. That hack disables the on-board interface completely.
19:06
(on-board, meaning, on the chip itself, not routed to the connectors on the outside of the box)
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<mmetzger>
got it
19:06
<Hyperbyte>
:)
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<alkisg>
Hmm, maybe a better solution would be to use a /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/snippet that would use "MatchProduct" so that it could be dropped unconditionally into any chroot
19:09
<Hyperbyte>
For your info, that's exactly what the script does.
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<alkisg>
There would be no need for a script
19:10
<Hyperbyte>
Minor difference is that the modification is done at the time the Xorg config generated for LTSP.
19:11
The script checks the hardware, and since it's part of LTSP, it can be packaged with LTSP. I believe that was the whole intention of DLWS.
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<mmetzger>
Ah, much better... thank you!
19:11
<Hyperbyte>
You're welcome. :)
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<mmetzger>
Any suggested way to fix the "hda-intel: spurious response" on a 10.04 system?
19:22
<Hyperbyte>
Nope. If you figure it out, be sure to let me know. :)
19:23
<mmetzger>
A challenge then... :)
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<Hyperbyte>
mmetzger, well, seriously - if you do figure it out, I'm very curious.
20:02
I haven't found the messages to be harmful though.
20:03
I have 10 DLWS Term 1720 at the office.
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<mmetzger>
Hyperbyte: It seems to be running fine on my test system, just throwing the log errors and the occasional static pop on the audio (if it's not in use otherwise.)
20:29
From everything I've been able to find, it was a really nasty kernel bug that kept some people from booting. That was largely fixed, but some still see it. One workaround involves upping the AGP Aperture size (which doesn't apply here...)
20:30
<Hyperbyte>
The static pop is insanely annoying
20:30
Overall, I'm not too impressed with the thin clients from DLWS to be honest.
20:31
We use VOIP telephony... softphones.
20:31
Luckily, as you said, static pop isn't there when it's in use
20:31
So it's not a big problem...
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20:31
<mmetzger>
via the thin client? That's pretty cool...
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<mmetzger>
I'm a bit undecided on this box. It's way cheaper than anything wyse / hp / dell, but not as cheap as some others I've seen (Zotac, MSI, etc...)
20:32
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah, check www.sflphone.org
20:32
Well, MSI is generally cheap, crappy hardware that doesn't last long.
20:32
Well no
20:32
Let's be fair
20:32
MSI is cheap, good hardware, but doesn't last very long.
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<mmetzger>
All depends on your definition of "good" I suppose :)
20:33
<Hyperbyte>
Their mainboards can be thrown out after 4-5 years, their capacitors really suck.
20:33
<jammcq>
!seen cliebow
20:33
<ltsp>
jammcq: cliebow was last seen in #ltsp 3 weeks, 3 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <cliebow> going to paint the porch...
20:36
<mmetzger>
Hyperbyte: Any favorite manufacturers?
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<Hyperbyte>
mmetzger, hrm, not really. I switched from MSI mainboards to ASUS and so far no complaints. And DLWS thin clients is all I have so...
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<damormino>
Well, some good news. I have LTSP running on Oneiric beta-1. Had to change the Session Manager to Ubuntu 2D.
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