IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 January 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:55 | <ba> whereis xorg.conf located in LTSP?
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| 06:10 | <alkisg> ba: by default no xorg.conf is used nowadays. If someone really needs one, it goes in /var/run/ltsp-xorg-something, you can see its exact location by running ps aux | grep X in the client
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| 07:33 | <ba> alkisg, thank you!
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| 08:11 | for usb flash drive's in chroot environment we should use udev rules right?
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| 08:14 | <alkisg> ltspfs is used by default and they work out of the box, for thin clients
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| 08:58 | <ba> but this is not for chroot environment
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| 08:59 | <alkisg> I don't understand what you mean, ltspfs runs locally on the thin clients
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| 09:23 | <ba> when you use flash drives on the LDM they are mounted right and ltspfs is used
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| 09:24 | but what I need is to mount in chroot environment only since I am not using LDM at all
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| 09:24 | <alkisg> ba: we call "chroot" the /opt/ltsp/i386 folder on the server. What you're saying is called "localapps"
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| 09:24 | For localapps, you can install ltspfsd on the chroot
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| 09:25 | <ba> ok
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| 09:25 | <alkisg> Or sure, you could also use udev rules, that would even be faster, just a bit more difficult to setup i guess
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| 09:27 | <ba> what I need, is just to install ltspfsd?
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| 09:28 | <alkisg> I think so, some people here have done it, I don't use localapps, you can search the channel logs if you like
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| 09:29 | <ba> the fun thing is that I once did it. and now can't understand what's wrong
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| 10:03 | <Ctek> How can i specify the --chroot of a fat-client to the ltsp-update-image ? because it is asking for the default /opt/ltsp/i386? Thank you
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| 10:19 | <ba> ltsp-update-image -a i386
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| 13:32 | <andygraybeal> good morning
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 13:35 | <andygraybeal> hi alkisg :)
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| 13:35 | how is greece?
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| 13:39 | <alkisg> Doing great! In a few months our democracy will be so advanced, that we won't be needing either jobs or money any longer :P
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| 13:48 | <andygraybeal> alkisg, awesome. our democracy is in the same boat!
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| 13:48 | i love how we have corporate bailouts and enslavement at the same time!
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| 13:50 | democracy is great!
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| 20:35 | <dyllan> Hi all. I would like to move my /opt folder to /home/opt and create a link from /opt to /home/opt can i do this safely, ie. without breaking anything?
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| 20:40 | <mmetzger> random comment: LTSP Local Apps & Local Dev is the coolest thing ever...
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| 20:51 | <darkhole> Hi folks!
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| 20:51 | I need some help
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| 20:51 | Yesterday I replaced a XMDCP server with a full LTSP
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| 20:52 | I have 5 terminals (thin clients), but I have a problem in one of them
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| 20:52 | All the terminals (old laptops) have a second monitor plugged in (dual monitor)
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| 20:53 | I have a problem in one client, when I plug the monitor (Acer 17", but I already tried other monitors) the desktop is show but I got a continuos distortion, like a noise.
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| 20:54 | Some body know how can I fix this?
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| 20:54 | The VGA chip in the laptop is: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02)
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| 21:06 | <alkisg> darkhole: if you change the resolution, is it better?
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| 21:07 | <darkhole> Nop, the same... but in different resolution
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| 21:07 | <alkisg> Maybe the laptop vga connection is broken then?
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| 21:07 | <darkhole> I tried to change the refresh rate from the program (Monitors) in Ubuntu 10.04 (this is the version of the LTSP)
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| 21:08 | <alkisg> If you boot the laptop from a live usb stick, does it happen there too?
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| 21:08 | <darkhole> Mm, I don't think so, when I tried to use the old XDMCP (is in the same server) all is Ok
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| 21:08 | <alkisg> What's the output of xrandr is those cases? And what driver is it using?
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| 21:08 | <darkhole> And also the KDM installed in the PC (this one was needed when I use XDMCP)
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| 21:09 | <alkisg> lspci -nn -k | grep -A2 VGA, from a local terminal
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| 21:09 | <darkhole> RADEON driver as I see in the xorg log
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| 21:09 | 0e:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02)
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| 21:09 | <alkisg> You can easily use XDMCP now too, but it sounds like a driver issue, not a protocol issue
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| 21:10 | <darkhole> I can use XDMCP, but I need sound, so LTSP is workig great with sound...
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| 21:11 | <alkisg> I assume the "old XDMCP" was with an older version of the driver, right?
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| 21:11 | <darkhole> Nop...
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| 21:11 | I didn't made any change, is the same server, same laptop
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> How was the client booting yesterday?
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| 21:12 | With an Ubuntu 10.04 OS too?
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| 21:12 | (not the XDMCP server OS, but the OS that the client used to boot)
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| 21:13 | <darkhole> Using KDM locally, then I choose Remote Login, choose the XDMCP server and GDM come up
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| 21:13 | Mm let me check
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| 21:13 | <alkisg> So you have a kubuntu 10.04 installation in the local hard disk of the laptop?
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| 21:18 | <darkhole> Hi alkisg, the versions installed in the laptop is Ubuntu 11.04 (i just installed kdm)
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| 21:19 | Server: Ubuntu 10.04
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| 21:19 | Laptop: Ubuntu 11.04 with KDM installed
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| 21:19 | <alkisg> darkhole: it's probably a driver issue, so maybe if you install the 11.04 kernel in the chroot, it may work
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| 21:20 | `apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty ` in the chroot
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| 21:20 | And check that /boot/vmlinuz in the chroot has read rights, that has changed in the newer versions, chmod +r it if not
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| 21:21 | <darkhole> MM, so, is a version issue... (kernel+drivers.. ) :(
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| 21:22 | I dont like use other kernels, let me check with Ubuntu 10.04 in the laptop, if it works I'll be here bothering you guys :)
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| 21:22 | If don't works... well.. I already know the problem, thanks!! alkisg
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| 21:23 | <alkisg> darkhole: those kernels are backported in the official archives and only for the lts versions, just for cases like that
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| 21:23 | That's why it's so easy to install them
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| 21:23 | Yup, try 10.04 with a usb stick
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| 21:25 | <darkhole> alkisg, one question, this could giv e me some problems with the other laptops, isn't it?
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| 21:26 | <alkisg> darkhole: the new kernel? Yes, changing kernels always has a rick
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| 21:26 | *risk
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| 21:26 | But it's very easy to install one or the other, or even have both of them
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| 21:26 | Benefits of using lts releases... :)
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| 21:26 | <darkhole> :) Yep, I really appreciate you help
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| 21:26 | <alkisg> I'd give it a 5% possibility to give you other problems... from my experience with changing kernels in schools so far
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| 21:38 | <darkhole> alkisg I have a final question.... There is no problem when I install the kernel, but do I need to change the i386.img ? And can I just install the new kernel and try again without restart the server or stop LTSP? That's because other 4 personas are working fine and I can't disconnect them.
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| 21:38 | <alkisg> darkhole: yes to all questions
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| 23:57 | <khris4> Hello everyone
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| 23:58 | I was wondering if someone could give a little help?
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