IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 January 2012   (all times are UTC)

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02:55
<ba>
whereis xorg.conf located in LTSP?
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06:10
<alkisg>
ba: by default no xorg.conf is used nowadays. If someone really needs one, it goes in /var/run/ltsp-xorg-something, you can see its exact location by running ps aux | grep X in the client
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07:33
<ba>
alkisg, thank you!
08:11
for usb flash drive's in chroot environment we should use udev rules right?
08:14
<alkisg>
ltspfs is used by default and they work out of the box, for thin clients
08:58
<ba>
but this is not for chroot environment
08:59
<alkisg>
I don't understand what you mean, ltspfs runs locally on the thin clients
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09:23
<ba>
when you use flash drives on the LDM they are mounted right and ltspfs is used
09:24
but what I need is to mount in chroot environment only since I am not using LDM at all
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09:24
<alkisg>
ba: we call "chroot" the /opt/ltsp/i386 folder on the server. What you're saying is called "localapps"
09:24
For localapps, you can install ltspfsd on the chroot
09:25
<ba>
ok
09:25
<alkisg>
Or sure, you could also use udev rules, that would even be faster, just a bit more difficult to setup i guess
09:27
<ba>
what I need, is just to install ltspfsd?
09:28
<alkisg>
I think so, some people here have done it, I don't use localapps, you can search the channel logs if you like
09:29
<ba>
the fun thing is that I once did it. and now can't understand what's wrong
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10:03
<Ctek>
How can i specify the --chroot of a fat-client to the ltsp-update-image ? because it is asking for the default /opt/ltsp/i386? Thank you
10:19
<ba>
ltsp-update-image -a i386
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13:32
<andygraybeal>
good morning
13:33
<alkisg>
Good morning
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<andygraybeal>
hi alkisg :)
13:35
how is greece?
13:39
<alkisg>
Doing great! In a few months our democracy will be so advanced, that we won't be needing either jobs or money any longer :P
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<andygraybeal>
alkisg, awesome. our democracy is in the same boat!
13:48
i love how we have corporate bailouts and enslavement at the same time!
13:50
democracy is great!
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20:35
<dyllan>
Hi all. I would like to move my /opt folder to /home/opt and create a link from /opt to /home/opt can i do this safely, ie. without breaking anything?
20:40
<mmetzger>
random comment: LTSP Local Apps & Local Dev is the coolest thing ever...
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20:51
<darkhole>
Hi folks!
20:51
I need some help
20:51
Yesterday I replaced a XMDCP server with a full LTSP
20:52
I have 5 terminals (thin clients), but I have a problem in one of them
20:52
All the terminals (old laptops) have a second monitor plugged in (dual monitor)
20:53
I have a problem in one client, when I plug the monitor (Acer 17", but I already tried other monitors) the desktop is show but I got a continuos distortion, like a noise.
20:54
Some body know how can I fix this?
20:54
The VGA chip in the laptop is: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02)
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21:06
<alkisg>
darkhole: if you change the resolution, is it better?
21:07
<darkhole>
Nop, the same... but in different resolution
21:07
<alkisg>
Maybe the laptop vga connection is broken then?
21:07
<darkhole>
I tried to change the refresh rate from the program (Monitors) in Ubuntu 10.04 (this is the version of the LTSP)
21:08
<alkisg>
If you boot the laptop from a live usb stick, does it happen there too?
21:08
<darkhole>
Mm, I don't think so, when I tried to use the old XDMCP (is in the same server) all is Ok
21:08
<alkisg>
What's the output of xrandr is those cases? And what driver is it using?
21:08
<darkhole>
And also the KDM installed in the PC (this one was needed when I use XDMCP)
21:09
<alkisg>
lspci -nn -k | grep -A2 VGA, from a local terminal
21:09
<darkhole>
RADEON driver as I see in the xorg log
21:09
0e:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02)
21:09
<alkisg>
You can easily use XDMCP now too, but it sounds like a driver issue, not a protocol issue
21:10
<darkhole>
I can use XDMCP, but I need sound, so LTSP is workig great with sound...
21:11
<alkisg>
I assume the "old XDMCP" was with an older version of the driver, right?
21:11
<darkhole>
Nop...
21:11
I didn't made any change, is the same server, same laptop
21:12
<alkisg>
How was the client booting yesterday?
21:12
With an Ubuntu 10.04 OS too?
21:12
(not the XDMCP server OS, but the OS that the client used to boot)
21:13
<darkhole>
Using KDM locally, then I choose Remote Login, choose the XDMCP server and GDM come up
21:13
Mm let me check
21:13
<alkisg>
So you have a kubuntu 10.04 installation in the local hard disk of the laptop?
21:18
<darkhole>
Hi alkisg, the versions installed in the laptop is Ubuntu 11.04 (i just installed kdm)
21:19
Server: Ubuntu 10.04
21:19
Laptop: Ubuntu 11.04 with KDM installed
21:19
<alkisg>
darkhole: it's probably a driver issue, so maybe if you install the 11.04 kernel in the chroot, it may work
21:20
`apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty ` in the chroot
21:20
And check that /boot/vmlinuz in the chroot has read rights, that has changed in the newer versions, chmod +r it if not
21:21
<darkhole>
MM, so, is a version issue... (kernel+drivers.. ) :(
21:22
I dont like use other kernels, let me check with Ubuntu 10.04 in the laptop, if it works I'll be here bothering you guys :)
21:22
If don't works... well.. I already know the problem, thanks!! alkisg
21:23
<alkisg>
darkhole: those kernels are backported in the official archives and only for the lts versions, just for cases like that
21:23
That's why it's so easy to install them
21:23
Yup, try 10.04 with a usb stick
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21:25
<darkhole>
alkisg, one question, this could giv e me some problems with the other laptops, isn't it?
21:26
<alkisg>
darkhole: the new kernel? Yes, changing kernels always has a rick
21:26
*risk
21:26
But it's very easy to install one or the other, or even have both of them
21:26
Benefits of using lts releases... :)
21:26
<darkhole>
:) Yep, I really appreciate you help
21:26
<alkisg>
I'd give it a 5% possibility to give you other problems... from my experience with changing kernels in schools so far
21:38
<darkhole>
alkisg I have a final question.... There is no problem when I install the kernel, but do I need to change the i386.img ? And can I just install the new kernel and try again without restart the server or stop LTSP? That's because other 4 personas are working fine and I can't disconnect them.
21:38
<alkisg>
darkhole: yes to all questions
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<khris4>
Hello everyone
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I was wondering if someone could give a little help?
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