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<sarthor>
Hi, I installed LTSP server on my Ubuntu 11.04, I am able to boot client, but i am not able to login to GUI from the Client, the login screen comming back on the same asking for username again, HELP
01:35
i followed this howto http://amazai.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22
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<ncd209>
hello all
05:36
trying to do ltsp-localapp but i dont seem to have it on the built image..
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<ncd209>
sorry got discon if any one answered
06:26
hmmm
06:26
i managed to start xterm
06:26
and it connects fine
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06:26
<ncd209>
hey how ya doing alkisg
06:27
<alkisg>
Hello
06:27
<ncd209>
did you see my question alkisg ?
06:29
<alkisg>
ncd209: it's impolite to ask specific people in here, it's better to ask in the channel and just wait for anyone available to answer. As for your question, it's ltsp-localapps, with an "s" at the end, not ltsp-localapp.
06:29
<ncd209>
http://pastebin.com/ffjSkciw
06:29
<alkisg>
Also, I think you had a different nickname last time we spoke? :)
06:30
<ncd209>
ah sorry i did
06:30
i am sunscreen
06:30
<alkisg>
OK, did you manage to get rdesktop working?
06:30
<ncd209>
just wanted to ask you cause you know what your talking about ;)
06:30
yea
06:30
from xterm it just connected right away
06:31
<alkisg>
Are you sure that was a *local* xterm/
06:31
?
06:31
And not a terminal inside the session, which runs on the server?
06:32
<ncd209>
i made a normal user from root account on the ltsp client logged in as that account and then did xterm --display :7
06:33
<alkisg>
And what was running in display :7 at that time? ldm ?
06:33
<ncd209>
rdesktop
06:33
or supposed to be
06:33
<alkisg>
Which distro/version is that again? ubuntu 11.04?
06:33
Or debian?
06:34
<ncd209>
debian squeeze
06:34
<alkisg>
OK. Let's properly troubleshoot this. Put SCREEN_06=your rdesktop etc, and SCREEN_07=ldm
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<ncd209>
oki
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<alkisg>
Then login in SCREEN_07 and run `ltsp-localapps xterm` and on that xterm run `ps -ef > /tmp/ps-output` and pastebin the output
06:36
<ncd209>
updating image ;)
06:37
<alkisg>
No need
06:37
Don't update the image every time you change lts.conf settings....
06:38
<ncd209>
ok i thought i had too
06:40
ok
06:40
now i got 06= black rdesktop with mouse cursor
06:40
07 = ldm
06:41
<alkisg>
OK, login in ldm
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<ncd209>
as a remote user ?
06:41
<alkisg>
Use the username/password from any user on the server
06:41
Yes, as a remote user
06:41
<ncd209>
kk logged in
06:41
<alkisg>
Now open gnome-terminal
06:42
Inside gnome-terminal, run: ltsp-localapps xterm
06:42
Did an xterm open?
06:42
<ncd209>
yep
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<alkisg>
What does it say in the prompt? user@ltsp14?
06:44
<ncd209>
yea it sais ncd209@ltsp21
06:44
<alkisg>
Good
06:44
Now run: ps -ef|grep rdesktop
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And paste the output
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<ncd209>
no results
06:45
<alkisg>
Then rdesktop isn't running
06:46
<ncd209>
rdesktop is not running
06:46
<alkisg>
Run `ps -ef` and paste the result
06:46
You can join irc from here, to paste easier: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ltsp
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And use pastebin.com to paste more than 2-3 lines
06:47
(ah you know that already :))
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<ncd209_>
alkisg, http://pastebin.com/krK8cb79
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<alkisg>
No, not on the server
06:48
On the client, on that local xterm
06:48
<ncd209_>
oops
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<alkisg>
And for rdesktop, you were supposed to check there
06:49
ps -ef|grep rdesktop
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<ncd209_>
http://pastebin.com/1vKPZ8gd
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<alkisg>
ncd209_: ok, that's better, but still rdesktop isn't running
06:53
Now, it's possible that it's in a loop, trying and failing, and you caught it when it was failing == not running
06:53
Ah before going there
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<ncd209_>
http://pastebin.com/asiNMvPj
06:53
<alkisg>
Paste the output of this: getltscfg -a
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And then run this: while true; do ps -ef | grep /usr/bin/rdesktop | grep -v grep; done
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<ncd209_>
http://pastebin.com/FmtwEAsp
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<alkisg>
If you see any output, press ctrl+c to interrupt it
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and then paste the output (if any)
06:55
if not, interrupt it after a few secs
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<ncd209_>
no outputs
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<alkisg>
OK
06:56
Try this, again on xterm: rdesktop -a 16 -x lan -r sound:local 192.168.1.20
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<ncd209_>
logged in
06:57
well rdesktop started
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<alkisg>
Then it sounds like a bug in the squeeze rdesktop.sh script
06:57
Can you pastebin those:
06:57
/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop
06:57
and
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/usr/share/ltsp/rdesktop.sh
06:58
Also, from that xterm, check your /var/log/syslog
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<ncd209_>
http://pastebin.com/d1ECxZvS
07:00
rdesktop is not at that location
07:01
ah
07:01
nm
07:01
no .. its not
07:02
http://pastebin.com/tt4gHnkB
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<alkisg>
ncd209_: it's probably this bug again
07:02
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/682706
07:02
mgariepy: could you have a look at it? I think it broke with the latest rdesktop commit...
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<ncd209_>
tnx alkisg ;)
07:03
<alkisg>
ncd209_: so update that script (add a "$@" there), and run ltsp-update-image ... erm wait, why are you running ltsp-update-image if you're on debian and using nfs?
07:04
ltsp-update-image is only needed if you're using nbd instead of nfs. Ubuntu uses nbd by default, Debian uses nfs by default.
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<ncd209>
i am using nbd
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<ncd209>
hm alexqwesa
07:14
er alkisg
07:14
i had #xinit $xinitrc sh /usr/share/ltsp/rdesktop.sh -- ${DISPLAY} vt${TTY} ${X_ARGS} -br >/dev/
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#null 2>&1
07:14
i changed it to: xinit $xinitrc sh /usr/share/ltsp/rdesktop.sh $* -- ${DISPLAY} vt${TTY} ${X_ARGS} -br >/dev/null 2>&1 as per what that guy suggests in the bugpad
07:15
shou $* be $@
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<alkisg>
ncd209: "$@" is better than $*, but in this case it doesn't matter as the rdesktop.sh script breaks params with spaces anyway
07:18
Put it "$@", maybe rdesktop.sh will be fixed too some day
07:18
(note the quotes, they're needed)
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<ncd209>
still no joy
07:23
xinit $xinitrc sh /usr/share/ltsp/rdesktop.sh "$@" -- ${DISPLAY} vt${TTY} ${X_ARGS} -br > /dev/null 2>&1
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<ncd209>
that script is balls
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<blackowi>
hi, i installed ltsp on ubuntu, problem is that the clients are booting from the ltsp server not from the client boot image
07:45
<muppis>
What you mean by that? Image is loaded at server.
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<alkisg>
ncd209: no joy yet?
07:53
<blackowi>
the client has an extra image, right?
07:54
<ncd209>
naw.. um rdesktop.sh is missing from /usr/share/ltsp/
07:54
<alkisg>
ncd209: might be a packaging problem. You're looking under /opt/ltsp/i386, right?
07:54
<ncd209>
there is 'rdesktop' in /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d
07:54
<alkisg>
That's a different one
07:54
<blackowi>
alkisg: amd64 ;) jes
07:54
<alkisg>
Get it from upstream, moment for the link...
07:55
blackowi: I haven't seen your problem, I'm talking to ncd209 :)
07:55
<blackowi>
sry
07:55
<ncd209>
root@jetserver:/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp# ls rdesktop*
07:55
ls: cannot access rdesktop*: No such file or directory
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is there some where i can get rdesktop.sh from?
07:57
i will implant it
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<alkisg>
ncd209: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/client/rdesktop.sh
07:58
Click "download file" there
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<ncd209>
tnx
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<alkisg>
ncd209: file a bug against debian for that, here's the wheezy filelist: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/ltsp-client-core/filelist
08:01
And here's the ubuntu natty filelist, which contains rdesktop.sh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/i386/ltsp-client-core/filelist
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ncd209: remember to chmod +x rdesktop.sh
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<ncd209>
tnx a bunch alkisg :D
08:04
all working now :D
08:05
all cause 1 file is missing :D
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<muppis>
It's Debian. ;)
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<alkisg>
ncd209: nah it was also the "$@" bug, 2 bugs in total :D
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<ncd209>
cool
08:07
<alkisg>
Those affected ubuntu too, rdesktop broke in the last commit where the script was separated into 2
08:09
blackowi: the clients boot from the "extra image" at /opt/ltsp/images/<arch>.img, but then they connect to the server for their sessions, that's why you see the server apps
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<sunscreen>
woohoo :D
10:58
alkisg == the daddy
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<TheMatrix3000_>
how can i specify a HTTP Proxy for ltsp clients?
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trying to enforce squid on the network and need the LTSP clients to access the web through the proxy
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<pmatulis>
TheMatrix3000_: configure the server the same way you would do it for any system
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<TheMatrix3000_>
how is that, cause I don't know after the fact
11:51
we already have a LTSP server set up, it's just getting firefox and the system to use the proxy
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<Hyperbyte>
TheMatrix3000_, what pmatulis means is that your question isn't really part of the LTSP project scope
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LTSP provides a thin client with a desktop. Anything that happens with the applications inside that desktop, is part of your Linux distribution and not LTSP.
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For example, if you're using Ubuntu, you could just type 'ubuntu configure proxy' into Google, and it'll give you a bunch of links.
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If you run into problems with booting the thin clients, or hardware problems or such, then it's likely LTSP. If you run into problems after you login, then it's likely something for which you'd better seek direct support for your distro
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<TheMatrix3000_>
ok
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<Gnoze5>
yellow gentlemen
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<Gnoze5>
errr
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as i was saying
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alkisg thanks again for the other day
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<alkisg>
Hi Gnoze5 - you're welcome
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All ok now?
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<Gnoze5>
for now lol
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:)
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but that was our very first
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10 terminals
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every single one of them different
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<alkisg>
Well you got hit by about 30% of the most common errors, so 2 more of those and you'll be an ltsp bug expert :P :D
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<Gnoze5>
heheh
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im very aware that experience is the key
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but having you around was crucial lol
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<alkisg>
:P
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<Gnoze5>
and once we get a little better at it we want to contribute to some of the documentation
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<alkisg>
There's always need for more documentation
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<Gnoze5>
yeah I agree
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<sunscreen>
handy --> http://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/ltsp/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf
15:22* vagrantc wonders how up to date it is
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<vagrantc>
there's also ltsp-docs package in debian and ubuntu
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which includes LTSPManual.pdf
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<sunscreen>
This webpage is not available for the link in the topic
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its good for 5.x vagrantc
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<Gnoze5>
err
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<sunscreen>
like your nick btw vagrantc
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<sunscreen>
hey so now that i have ltsp seemingly happy with 3 thin clients. and i understand with 4Gb of ram i can have 20 clients all good ;D
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I want to allow access to a couple of remote laptops .. which is the best solution to do this, I am not sure if i want to open remote desktop to the out side world on my virtualized terminal server, and i dont know how well a vnc would work out on the authentication front any one know if the vncs out there can auth against m$/pam/passwd
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