IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 19 July 2015   (all times are UTC)

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03:56
<maldridge>
which do you guys think will work first, uefi pxe, or ipv6 pxe
04:22
<gehidore>
yes
04:52
<maldridge>
taking the safe bet gehidore
05:02
<gehidore>
maldridge: always :D
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05:44
<Csernay>
Thanks for your answer ! But sadly i cannot use legacy, my hardware doesn't allow it (Zotac pico mini). But i'm not far to find the solution (I Think...). I've configured tftp to serve an efi-bootloader and my Zotac see it :-D Surely the Problem is to giv the right file (32 or 64 bits efi), because the Zotac has a 32 bits efi and i tried with the 64bits....
05:49
I'm not really sure that i cannotuse legagacy but i've tried every possibility in the "BIOS" settings and i cannot disable the UEFI. Have I miss something ? Or are there Haddware only UEFI ? Are the new Hardware so ?
05:50
for example, on a Mac.. Can we use legacy BIOS on a mac ?
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06:08
<maldridge>
Csernay: sort of, macs have thier own special flavor of pxe that can be used to install the os. I'm not aware of any FOSS projects using it though
06:08
ofc, newer macs use uefi
06:12
<Csernay>
Mac was only an example (for me) of Hardware that cannot use legacy (I suppose).. I don't have a Mac, but People tell me to disable the UEFI and use the legacy Mode, but it is not possible on my Hardware (Zotac pico mini). I have to understand how to serve via TFT an UEFI-PC. At this point, I think I could connect the server and the UEFI-diskless but my Problem is to give the right 32 bits bootloader in the TFT server..
06:15
With my new configuration of dhcpd.conf, my UEFI now recognize that there is a connection. Before the configuration of dhcpd.conf my UEFI was looking without finding a connection. Now the connection is made but my diskless says Unable to fetch the TFTP Image. I think the image is innapropriate and i?m lokking how to create a 32 bits bootloader that my UEFI-PC would accept...
07:24
<maldridge>
Csernay: you could compile grub2 for 32bits, but I don't think there are built versions that target that architecture
07:32
<Csernay>
Oh... That's what I wanted to try.. Try tomorrow... Thanks for your Advice and your attention !
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08:50
<work_alkisg>
http://liliputing.com/2014/10/run-ubuntu-zotac-zbox-pico-mini-pc-kinda.html
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08:51
<work_alkisg>
There's a 32-bit grub build there
08:52
But for netbooting, distros do ship 32bit versions of efi grub
08:55
http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/i386/grub-efi-ia32-bin/filelist
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08:58
<work_alkisg>
My notes for uefi/ltsp: http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2015-05-14
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08:59
<work_alkisg>
http://mg.debian.net/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ has bootnetia32.efi
08:59
That should be enough to load an 32 or 64 bit kernel over the network under a 32bit uefi environment
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15:14
<nahoskins>
seems like ive been in here quite a lot the last week
15:14
i just took stock of 15 rasberry pis
15:14
checked out pi net
15:15
and low and behold im told to check out this channel again!
15:15
i've had issues with some computers in my network
15:15
and was looking to replace them with pis
15:16
my biggest limitation is I really use minecraftedu quite extensively
15:16
and i know it needs 2GB minimum
15:16
is it possible to virutalise memory over a network?
15:17
something like a thin/fat client
15:17
chubby client?
15:18
a lot of my current stations are using less than 2 GB as is
15:18
(very old donationware)
15:18
so if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it
15:18
I'm currently seriously considering harvesting memory from the server for some of the clients
15:19
but for those who have seen me here in the last couple weeks, you may understand my reluctance to mess with it now that it "works"
15:19
(minus some odd cases where running applications causes reboots...)
15:20
(I think this has to do with the switch I am using
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17:04
<vagrantc>
hah. even an rpi2 only has 1GB of ram... can't imagine network swap would e anything but painful
17:06
<gehidore>
'well yeah
17:06
swap on Loopback is bad enough
17:07
you'd be better to put swap on each machine on a sd card imho... then setup the fatclient to use that...
17:07
even if you burn thru sd cards like mad... probably still run better than over network
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23:24
<talntid>
is the ltsp project mostly dead? i don't ever see any real updates on it.. ?
23:39
<vagrantc>
it isn't tremendously active, no.
23:40
there are bugfixes here and there, as people scratch what itches they want fixed
23:40
there are grandiose plans to move towards some ideas we'd call LTSP6
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23:45
<talntid>
hmm I see
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