what is google wave?
have an invite for me?
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cyberorg: gimme one!!
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LTSP is magical, wish I had known about it sooner
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cyberorg, I'll gladly take an invite off your hands if u still have
nubae, sent, wait for a couple of days to get it :)
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WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS!?!?!
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That looks like.... just what we want.
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sbalneav: Scpttu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
err, let's try that again, shall we
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is LTSP_FATCLIENT=true already ok in karmic ?
or should i compile ldm-trunk ?
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hi folks, LTSP is a great projet!
sebas891, yes it is :)
I would like to customize the ldm login screen, specially move the login prompt.
sebas891, what distro?
I looked in the greeter-gtkrc but I cannot get a clue on how to do it.
I use ubuntu 9.04
ah, you found the place, you will have to play with gtkrc
actually, I've always seen login prompt right in the middle of the screen. ...
it is possible to do without hacking the c code of greeter.c ?
look in gtkgreet/greeter.c
yes, see lw, lh
I know nothing about c, unfortunately.
lw lh I saw that.
well you are almost there, trial and error is a way to go
i guess :)
with a little recompyling... in between.
or ogra and sbalneav may know more if you still cannot figure it out
if (lw < 180) lw = 180;
use nfs instead of nbd when experimenting
I did try on a standalone machine with the package installed.
./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make DESTDIR=/your/chroot/path install
that was the easiest setup I could come up :)
something like that should install new ldm in chroot, use the chroot as nfs exported image
the thing, if I hack the code rigth in the c file, I'll to maintain a patch with the next upgrade :(
sebas891, that part of code never changes
Is there another option? like not using ldm and using X ?
no, ldm is what makes up most of ltsp
is sdm worth looking at it? will I be able to customise it?
all ltsp features are dependent on ldm, without it there is no ltsp :)
I had a really nice background picture, that needed the logging more at the top of the screen.
I'll have to change that i'm afraid.
if you do write a patch that makes ldm customizable via lts.conf variable such as LDM_INPUT_LOCATION=(top, bottom, left, right, center) may get accepted :)
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LDM_INPUT_LOCATION=(x,y) may be better
x,y (% of the screen) sort of thing.
ldm will eventually have support for that.
is there some variable that are passed to greeter.c ?
Ryan52: is there something somewhere I could try ?
do what cyberorg suggested..
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cyberorg Ryan52 thanks for the clues about how to change the login location. I don't know .c to make a valid contribution.
I'm working more on deploiment of ltsp servers using puppet
sebas891, well you have at least easy task to do and most of the code is in place ;)
interesting, can you elaborate what exactly are you doing?
i've to install multiples ltsp servers in a few location. I want to automate the installation and configuration process of an ltsp server.
not that it's few complicated to install a ltsp server, but there is nothing like automating it :)
I installed the machine using debian/ubuntu preseed install method with pxe/netboot.
cool, do share docs somewhere on blog or wiki when you are done
sebas891, on opensuse we have rpm package with prebuilt ltsp image, that makes deploying easier :)
for example this is the puppet recipe to install/config an ltsp https://trac.redcta.org.ar/redcta/browser/trunk/puppet/manifests/classes/ltsp.pp
that is a little documentation of the "server" which has more than the ltsp service :) https://trac.redcta.org.ar/redcta/wiki/ServidorRedLocalMultiServicios
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puppet helps you manage configuration of machines, very usefull when you've many of them.
we all know that doing the package install of the ltsp-server is the easy part, there is always a lots of details to take care of after...
sebas891, we have giant shell script http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jigish-gohil/kiwi-ltsp/trunk/annotate/head%3A/trunk/kiwi-ltsp/ltsp/include/kiwi-ltsp-functions.sh
actually, I should do a puppet module to install and ltsp-server.
second script takes various switches to do configurations
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cyberorg: with puppet, it would be possible to have the task multi distribution.
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yeah looks quite interesting
i'm late to the conversation
sebas891, yeah a puppet module for ltsp server would awsome
what would a puppet module do for ltsp?
though in that case it should take cluste into consideration
http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/ - would this program inventory the client hardware?
puppet would install the ltsp-server other possible packages, build the client (if you have a proxy of packages, would use it for example)
puppet would make sure that the tftpd service is running.
i need to rebuild the thin client after a system upgrade. do i need to delete the old client build?
ie, rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
and rm -rf /opt/ltsp/images?
then sudo ltsp-build-client?
you don't have to delete the image.
rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386 ???
you will delete the base of your client... why would you do that?
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wouldn't the base be rebuilt upon ltsp-build-client?
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Ahmuck_: use ltsp-update-image to update the client.
ltsp-build-client, is only of the very first time you put in place the ltsp service.
so, upgrading the ubuntu distro from 9.04 to 9.10, then all i need to do is update-image
Ahmuck_: ah! no.
NOTE: Root directory /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists, this will lead to problems, please remove it before trying again. Exiting.
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
if you upgrade between release, you'll have to do a ltsp-build-client I guess.
Ahmuck_: did you make changes in the client?
hmm.. that's what wwe need.. a directory of changes we make to the chroot that will overlay the entire thing
so /opt/ltsp/i386-modifications or somethin
or sommewehere.. that will copy the files we need..
http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/ - i've used this to inventory large installations of large computers. can this be used to inventory thin client hardware? would each thin client report?
you'd need to install something in the chroot i imagine
it's just a linux box.. so i don't see why not
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Ahmuck_: ocsinventory works with thin client, that problem I had was that all the client had the same hostname...
osc invetories by ip address?
i'm about to install it under ubuntu 9.04.
sebas891: any other inventory program that you know of that has it's detail?
that is a oscinventory question :)
johnny: in chroot?
no, I don't
i'm about to rebuild the thin client
johnny: ok, i understand
i'd need to install the client side in the chroot
sebas891, which version of ubuntu/yourdistro
the nice thing about the ocsinventory is the integration with glpi.
ubuntu should now make fake hostnames if you don't set one on dhcp
johnny: that I had problems with? (ubuntu 7.10)
inventoring hardware on the thin clients would allow me to target specific clients for upgrade
you should have set dns hostnames for them
but now.. you don't need to
it will assign a name+num for them automatically if htere is no assigned hostname by dhcp for them
i assume that this is because of "fake net"?
johnny: is it possible to configure the "name" variable ?
you mean instead of ltspnum?
you want yournamenum ?
it's hardcoded in the init script
if you want something better, set real hostnames for them at the dns+dhcp level
which you should be doing anyways
if you have the kind of organizaiton that needs ocsinventory
same for you Ahmuck_
do it the right way please :)
of course :)
but when you've a large amount of clients, it's a pain the set a hostname for each of them.
in the dhcp server.
maybe, I'm missing an option to build automatic hostname for clients.
no.. that's the point.. it's easy :)
a file with mac/hostname pairs is all you really need
and you can build that from ocsinventory i guess :) lol
parse the mac address from a file and then auto set hostnames to them
or make it so they have a firstrun option
ah.. i guess i can't see how to do that :(
the fedora one does client-firstoctect
i stole it for gentoo ltsp before ubuntu had it
err sorry.. last octect
there must be something at the dhcp level, to build automatic hostname like (pc-<ip>) or something else.
what is the "last octects" ?
pc1-mac address, pc2-mac address, etc.
the complete mac address? something shorter?
last ip octect
sebas891, you can do something like that with dnsmasq..
and potentially dhcp.. if it lets you run scripts
another option tho.. would be another lts.conf var to pass a path to a script that will build the hostname
that seems to be a problem outside the ltsp scope, somehow.
i'd suggest you look at the dhcp man page or search for dhcp build hostname script or somethin
when, I do network install with preseed, if I didn't configure the hostname in the dhcp server, the installation fails.
that is a good thing * i think.
i'll look at the dnsmasq and the man page of the dhcpd.
sebas891, fedora and suse uses hosts-update script to create /etc/hosts on the client
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ltsp-build-client downloads from a server on ubuntu? why wouldn't it take the packages on the system?
dpkg: warning: obsolete option '--print-installation-architecture', please use '--print-architecture' instead.
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Nous somme ivres, prenez votre bonbon et courir. Jeyeux tout bénit!
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