IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 15 April 2012   (all times are UTC)

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17:50
<PhoenixSTF>
Where can i get good cheap HW for clients?
17:52
<knipwim>
http://www.disklessworkstations.com/ perhaps?
17:54
newegg?
17:54
<Hyperbyte>
PhoenixSTF, please wait a bit for an answer.
17:54
<knipwim>
ebay?
17:54
<PhoenixSTF>
well for 300$ i can buy almost 2 IPX MB
17:54
<Hyperbyte>
First we need to guess where you might live.
17:54
<PhoenixSTF>
Portugal
17:54
<Hyperbyte>
Unless you actually live in Phoenix
17:54
<PhoenixSTF>
Europe....
17:54
<Hyperbyte>
See
17:55
I'd have guessed Phoenix!
17:55
<PhoenixSTF>
lol
17:55
<Hyperbyte>
See how misleading your question was!
17:55
<knipwim>
do you want new hardware or secondhand?
17:56
i got a great secondhand store near where i live, they buy up stuff from bankrupt companies
17:57
without moving parts, these thin clients go on forever
17:57
<PhoenixSTF>
Usualy Dell and HP Thin clients are very expensive
17:58
for the price they are one can buy 5 IPX atom boards
17:58
and those thin clients dont have half the HW
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<alkisg>
vagrantc, stgraber, knipwim, cyberorg, would you mind if I pushed ltsp-pnp upstream? It appears to be stable enough, but of course it would require a month or so to be completely stabilized...
18:50
So if anyone wants to do a distro release in the next month, I shouldn't commit it
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18:52
<stgraber>
alkisg: Ubuntu is completely frozen so any upload I do from now on is going to be upstream cherry-picks, so as far as I'm concerned, go ahead
18:53
<alkisg>
stgraber: nice, I'd like us to have a common debian/ branch too though, do you have it somewhere that I can push to? Should I create one?
18:54
And vagrantc can get the debian/* files he wants for debian... and with the chance, we may start converging a bit with debian too as far as debian/* is concerned
18:54
<stgraber>
alkisg: I'm using the ubuntu distributed development branches at lp:ubuntu/precise/ltsp I abandonned the older packaging branch because this one is all magic and just works
18:54
<alkisg>
OK I'll clone it locally then and ping you whenever there are changes
18:55
<stgraber>
I have a vague plan for 12.10 to try and merge as much as possible from Debian for LTSP, I know we won't be able to sync from Debian any time soon (if ever), but we should be able to get to a reasonable delta
18:55
<alkisg>
stgraber: another thing... currently I'm publishing ltsp-pnp in the greek schools PPA, but I think it would be better if I used the edubuntu ones... would that make sense?
18:56
<stgraber>
sure, when you have changes, just branch it locally, do your changes, push it somewhere on LP and either give me the link or propose it for merging in the main one (you can do that from the web interface or with "bzr lp-propose-merge" from the command line
18:56
<alkisg>
Cool
18:57
<stgraber>
ltsp-pnp is a completely different packages from ltsp right? basically just a meta package with some extra config?
18:57
<alkisg>
The plan is to merge it in ltsp-upstream though
18:57
<stgraber>
(I remember looking at it a while ago, but as I said, a while ago ;))
18:57
<alkisg>
So for 12.10 it'd be nice if it was generated from the same source package
18:57
<stgraber>
right, 12.10 we can build from the same source
18:58
for the 12.04 PPA, I'd prefer you don't include a full copy of LTSP in it as it's going to become maintenance nightmare ;)
18:58
<alkisg>
Hmmm true... ok, I direct interested people to the greek schools PPA instead
18:59
Nice, thank you :)
18:59
<stgraber>
np :)
19:03
<alkisg>
Btw "basically just a meta package with some extra config?" ==> no it has about 2000 lines of code too
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<Briareos1>
which is currently the preferred Ubuntu CD image for installing LTSP? desktop / alternate / server ?
19:31
or was the "install LTSP" option removed altogether?
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19:34
<vagrantc>
Briareos1: alternate includes the install ltsp option built in
19:34
at least, last i heard
19:34
<Briareos1>
thanks
19:40
<Hyperbyte>
vagrantc, isn't that Edubuntu?
19:43* vagrantc thought it was all ubuntu alternate versions
19:43
<Hyperbyte>
mhm
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<Briareos1>
Hyperbyte, vagrantc: i remember it was so on ubuntu 8.04 - but i'll see once I boot 12.04 alternate
21:12
<stgraber>
ubuntu alternate contains an LTSP option (F4 at the CD boot splash) and will install using debian-installer, generating a new chroot
21:12
edubuntu contains a pre-generated LTSP chroot on the media and offers live-ltsp and LTSP at install time (just copying the chroot and unpacking it)
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<Briareos1>
stgraber: thanks for clarifying
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