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Channel log from 8 March 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<kwak>
hi, anybody using k12ltsp 6
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<fabian__>
hi, is there anyone here who has tried ltsp with a ncd thinstar?
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<nf1>
Hi, i installed LTSP5 in debian sid. The client boots, it loads the LDM but I can't login. I type the user & password but then I got a black screen and after a few seconds the LDM login screen appears again.
04:23
somebody got the same problem, or know what may be the problem?
04:24
I modified the lts.conf (added SCREEN_07 = startx) and the client now gets KDM and I can login in the system but with KDM
04:40
<sep>
nf1, sounds like wrong user/password or missing or to few rights in homedir, or no ssh access to the server.
04:40
LDM uses ssh tunnel
04:40
to protect passwords typed into the X session.
04:40
and it can also be used to run things on the client. ltspfs is the best example
04:42
<nf1>
It's not wrong passwords. I thought that it could be an SSH port issue, because openssh was running on different port, but I configured it to run on port 22 and the problem still persist
04:46
<sep>
nf1, just try ssh to the server on that user/pass and see
04:47
<nf1>
I can login with ssh with that user
04:50
<sep>
then i dont know.
04:50
works for me with ldm
04:51
<nf1>
10x for the try
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<DaveQB>
what can ne use besides http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.1/ to install ? Its 404 ?
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<cliebow_>
Dave08:dont want 4.2?
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<Bhaskar>
can i mount usb in client?
05:32
<DaveQB>
cliebow_: using Sarge, so ltsp-utils are defaulting to 4.1
05:32
I tried http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.2/ and its 404 too anyway
05:32
<Bhaskar>
ogra, i connect USB in client ,but can;t mount ?
05:37
Anybody is there, i connect Pen Drive in client but can not mount ? any idea to mount USB in client
05:38
<DaveQB>
what mirror are you using for updates etc Bhaskar ?
05:38
<cliebow_>
i see..i can come up with chroot and kernels at school later if it helps
05:38
<DaveQB>
cliebow_: how do you mean ?
05:38
<cliebow_>
Bhaskar: you need to use scotties ten step program..then report back
05:39
1localdev
05:39
!localdev
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<ltspbot>
cliebow_: "localdev" is Information regarding using pluggable devices and cdroms with LTSP can be found at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev
05:39
<cliebow_>
1ltspadmin
05:39
Balls!
05:39
!ltspadmin
05:39
<ltspbot>
cliebow_: Error: "ltspadmin" is not a valid command.
05:39
<cliebow_>
oh well
05:40
<DaveQB>
cliebow_: what mirror are you using now for install/update ? can you check you configs for me please ?
05:43
<cliebow_>
i am at breakfast..ill be at school by and by..and the rest of the gang too..if i caome up with something ill paste it
05:44
<DaveQB>
Thanks. Dont have access to your ltsp server away from school ?
05:45
<Bhaskar>
cliebow_, can i play music in client
05:47
<cliebow_>
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Fltsp-utils%2Fltsp-utils_0.25-1_all.deb&md5sum=3844cd13aacdb05536f2443fc0410620&arch=all&type=main
05:47
<Bhaskar>
and i could not shutdown particular client why
05:47
<cliebow_>
Bhaskar: reliable sound is just being worked out
05:48
Dave08:trying to get my better half out the door 8~)
05:48
whole page of mirrors for ltsp-utils-0.25
05:49
<DaveQB>
cheers cliebow_
05:49* DaveQB follows the links provided
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<DaveQB>
no I need the mirror one uses when installing ltsp
05:50
I have ltspadmin executable, but it cant download anything as its default address http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.1/ is 404
05:51
cliebow_: sorry for not being clear
05:54
<cliebow_>
Dave08:perhaps jammcq will intercede..
05:54
<DaveQB>
I hope so, and my name is DaveQB not Dave08
05:54
<cliebow_>
my eyes..my eyes
05:54
<DaveQB>
lol
05:55
<cliebow_>
anyway..i can get you a tarball of the chroot if you want..and kernels if you are good at rolling your own
05:55
<DaveQB>
Ahhh got it
05:56
rather use this interface. I used the new package 0.25 available on the link you gave and it comes hard coded with a better url
05:56
<cliebow_>
one of my schoools is down..where i keep those...
05:56
<DaveQB>
I even found a tutorial using the dud/404 URL
05:56
how many schools do you "have" ?
05:56
<cliebow_>
12
05:57
<DaveQB>
damn,whats your job ?
05:57
<cliebow_>
tech guy...cant stand the meetings involved with tech coordinator
05:58
<DaveQB>
Actually its in the official docs.
05:58
hahaha
05:58
yeah I know how you feel
05:58
use ltsp alot with your occupation ?
05:58
<cliebow_>
ok..going for the final push..wife is waiting in the wings..champing at the bit
05:58
oh 100 termnals just in the high school
05:59
seldom more than 40 at a time
05:59
olsd junk ive been dumpster diving for
05:59
<DaveQB>
cool
05:59
how much space does a full install take up ?
06:01
<cliebow_>
chroot is what 300 meg?
06:02
in feisty it is like 200
06:02
<DaveQB>
using Sarge here
06:02
why do you keep mentioning chroot ?
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<cliebow_>
the modern word for the nfs fiesystem that is mounted on the client
06:04
sort of likr the little dude inside the big dudes head in mena n black
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<DaveQB>
i know what a chroot is, just didnt know how it related to ltsp
06:05
cool you can use NFS for homes hey ?
06:05
but just the install of libs etc with no user data is no bigger then 500MB's hey ?
06:05
I have 1.8GB on my / partition
06:05
just trying to decide on what partition to install this on, on my server
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<cliebow_>
the guts of ltsp is in there..yes you can..but remember ltsp is really just a picture of the servers desktop
06:06
default is /opt/ltsp/i386
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<DaveQB>
yeah
06:06
so it releies on the servers libs ? the servers X server it uses ?
06:06* DaveQB doesnt have X server on his server
06:06
<cliebow_>
so your home is there..unless you are using localapps
06:07
you will need x on your server..on A server
06:07
<DaveQB>
oh, cant point homes else where in the configs ?
06:07
hmmmm
06:07
bugger
06:07
<cliebow_>
unless you are going to use just a terminal shell
06:08
you can point to any server runing x
06:09* cliebow_ cliebow waits tyo get bodyslammed for talking too m,uch
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<DaveQB>
hmmmm, yeah a terminal might be enough
06:11
<cliebow_>
since i am little fish in big smart pond here
06:11
<DaveQB>
I ran this along time ago, with the unattended.org project
06:11
ol
06:11
lol
06:11
I could use my X server here on my desktop hey ?
06:11
might be the way to go
06:12
dont want extra uneeded files on my server
06:12
This is mainly to just get an unbootable laptop up and installed
06:12
<cliebow_>
DaveQB, would an ubuntu livge cd help you?
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<black_jack>
halo linuxer
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<jim_mc_quilan>
halo everybody
06:20
halo
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<jim>
how do i instal ltsp on my pc?
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<cliebow_>
bbl
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<DaveQB>
cliebow_: how do you mean ? For my laptop ? CD-ROM drive is no longer bootable, no USB boot options, and HDD has messed up bootloader
06:27
cliebow_: tried a debootstrap on the HDD connected to my desktop via USB, sorta worked, can get grub up, but some errors. Figured I wanted ltsp up on my server "in case of emergency" so here I am :-)
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<DaveQB>
wouldnt ltsp_x_core give bring in the X files needed without effecting the server ?
06:48
I guess I am wrong there
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
morning 4 * #ltsp
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
well.. now installed here ubuntu alternative 6.10
07:27
want to install the 5 version
07:28
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall <- is my guied right?
07:28
s/guied/way
07:30
:o released !! :) nice
07:30
http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/ltsp_ubuntu_6.10_i386-1.tar.bz2
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<ramsys>
what is differance in ltsp and 2x thin cleint server/service
07:41
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ermm 1 question:
07:41
if i can download a .bz and make an apt-get what i do better?
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<mrchicken>
Hello
07:46
I finally got ltsp to boot... but now I cant login :(
07:46
it asks me for username and password
07:46
I enter it correctly
07:46
and then, it would seem as it logs in, but then it shows me the login screen again
07:47
can anybody help me out?plz?
07:48
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
client or server can't login?
07:48
<mrchicken>
client
07:49
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
re-passwd client at server and try again in the client
07:49
<mrchicken>
I did that already
07:49
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
wow
07:49
and make a new users?
07:49
<mrchicken>
I mean, I dont get a "wrong username/passwd"
07:49
I just get the login screen again
07:49
when I enter the wrong info I DO get a "wrong username/passwd"
07:50
dunno if its related with me having KDE
07:50
and ltsp swearing I'm using GDM
07:54
I have a screenshot in case you want to check it
07:55
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
erm.. how can i install ltsp-5.tar.bz2 :?
07:55* sh3mh4mf0r4sh thinks is better apt :|
07:56
<mrchicken>
tar -xvjf ? hehehehe
07:56
bad joke
07:58
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
jeje
07:59
<mrchicken>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh ... any ideas for this weird behaviour?
07:59
<ramsys>
bunzip
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi
07:59
<mrchicken>
hello
08:00
I finally got ltsp to boot... but now I cant login :( it asks me for username and password I enter it correctly and then, it would seem as it logs in, but then it shows me the login screen again
08:00
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
is there some open source alternative to terminal server to access a win desktop/software?
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<mrchicken>
vnc?
08:01
<sep>
kaminski-ltsp-br, rdesktop
08:01
kaminski-ltsp-br, and it's many frontends
08:01
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
rdesktop uses the terminal server licences
08:01
<sep>
krdc/grdesktop
08:01
<mrchicken>
but is rdesktop is free?
08:01
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mrchicken: no idea sorry
08:01
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
the rdesktop is open source, but uses the TS licenses
08:02
mrchicken: the vnc... is it slow?
08:02
<sep>
mrchicken, yes it's free.
08:02* sh3mh4mf0r4sh s making ltsp-build-clients (...)
08:02
<mrchicken>
VNC is not that slow
08:02
<sep>
kaminski-ltsp-br, anything that uses the rdp server of windows uses the TS lisences
08:03
<mrchicken>
although it only works for one user, I believe :(
08:03
<sep>
vnc works okaish on fast links
08:03
you could try freenx
08:03
dont know how it would work on windows
08:03
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
there's about 200 users here to access a software that only runs in win
08:03
<sep>
but it works great on linux
08:03
<mrchicken>
well u could use ltsp and wine :P
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
mrchicken: the wine dont resolve our problem... it's a very problematic software... lol
08:04
an ERP
08:05
<mrchicken>
welll maybe I could suit you up with a linux-based ERP that kicks SAPs arse?
08:05
<sep>
kaminski-ltsp-br, migrate to something that dont tie you to a software vendor
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<mrchicken>
I am right now deploying one
08:05
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
mrchicken: we are planning to use an open source erp, but the proccess is complicated yet
08:06
we have about 100 ltsp terminals here, and the users need access the erp... we are using the windows TS, but I dont like it
08:06
<mrchicken>
why not take the hard, complex and reeeeaaaaaaly troublesome step now, instead of getting more info into the old erp and then having to migrate three tons more data
08:07
try VNC
08:07
and see how it goes
08:07
I am not sure if it allows multiple clients
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
mrchicken: I'll try it... about the erp... the proccess to get the step is complicated... but we are planning it to this year
08:09
<mrchicken>
kaminski-ltsp-br ... I'm deploying one for a medicine center
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<mrchicken>
I feel its gonna be a pain... all these guys are used to either having the accounting on paper OR on excel
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
mrchicken: cool. here, at TECPAR, we have about 500 users, and the atctual erp is very advanced.. but it runs only in f*ckin' win
08:10
<mrchicken>
and... if you run vmware in linux
08:10
and get a windows vm in there>
08:11
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
dont know if the server will be ok... about 200 users accessing a windows vm... with ltsp
08:13
<mrchicken>
if u have enough muscle on da server (please note, its gotta be DA server) it shouldnt be a problem
08:13
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
its easy to access a linux desktop from a windows, but access a windows desktop from a linux... it's a problem...
08:14
<mrchicken>
welll there is the last resort
08:14
its complex and hard...
08:14
I dont know if you'd be able to do it tho, its VERY complicated
08:14
u think ur up to it?
08:17
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
?
08:17
my english is poor.. lol
08:17
<mrchicken>
Ahh, you just spoiled the joke :(
08:17
The answer was UTFG
08:17
Use The F Google :P:P
08:17
lol
08:19
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
lol... this guy is my best friend
08:19
:P
08:19
<mrchicken>
yeah, he's like an oracle... you ask him and he will answer
08:20
and strangely enough porn is not the standard answer
08:21
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
i already ask him a lot about the acces to the desktop... but he doesnt answer with an open source solution yet
08:22
:P
08:22
<mrchicken>
uhhh there is this other guy
08:23
he normally gives good answers freshmeat
08:23
I think the guy is a retired butcher that became a geek
08:23
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
lol
08:23
<mrchicken>
hey kaminski-ltsp-br ... by any chances u think y could help me out?
08:24
my ltsp client is not logging in
08:24
I get the login screen
08:24
but when I try to log in I get nothing
08:24
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hmm
08:24
<mrchicken>
nothing = the login screen again
08:25
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
at the syslog.. can you see somethinf strange?
08:26
<mrchicken>
var/log/messages only shows the dhcp being ack and the tftp going thru
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<Gadi>
mrchicken: LTSP5 OR 4.2>
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<mrchicken>
4.3
08:27
ack
08:27
4.2
08:27
hehe
08:27
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
it may be a pam problem
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<Gadi>
in that case, check the user's ~/.xsession-errors
08:28
otherwise check pam as kaminski-ltsp-br says
08:28
it has nothing to do with ltsp
08:30
<mrchicken>
wgat is pam?
08:30
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
the LTSP is working if the station can boot and you get a login sceen
08:30
screen
08:30
<Gadi>
pamj = authentication
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<mrchicken>
weird thing is I can login from the server
08:31
nope I cant
08:31
:s
08:31
just realized I cant login from the server either
08:32
I can get into the console mode
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but not x
08:32
<Gadi>
there ya go
08:32
check the user's ~/.xsession-errors
08:33
or pam
08:33
<mrchicken>
cant find any :S
08:33
<Gadi>
does the user have a home dir?
08:33
<mrchicken>
yeah its root :P
08:33
<Gadi>
dont use root
08:33
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Gadi: i download ltsp-5.0.tar.bz2 how can i install that?
08:33
<Gadi>
use a regular user
08:34
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: i have no clue ;)
08:34
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
oh
08:34
<Gadi>
maybe ogra knows
08:34
<mrchicken>
Now I'm getting kernel panic
08:34
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
well i'm now ltsp-builing-client
08:34
but want to know by sources
08:34
<mrchicken>
Enforcing mode requested but no policy loaded
08:34
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok .. i wait 4 ogra then
08:34
<Gadi>
mrchicken: is this redhat?
08:35
<mrchicken>
fc4 yeah
08:35
<Gadi>
did u enable selinux on install?
08:35
<jammcq>
mrchicken: did you get that tarball from the ltsp.org download site?
08:36
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
mrchicken: xdm gdm kdm ?
08:36
<mrchicken>
It was enabled but I uninstalled it
08:36
<Gadi>
brb
08:39
mrchicken: reboot the server, then login as a user and not root
08:40
dont get into the habit of running the desktop as root
08:41
u are asking for trouble
08:42
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
stay here long time :/
08:42
`/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
08:42
0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.89.6)]
08:42
<mrchicken>
no good
08:42
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uf no route to host!
08:42
:S
08:45
what is the bot ltsp to pastebin?
08:46
anyway
08:46
plz look here!
08:46
http://pastebin.ca/386320
08:46
have troubles
08:48
<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: ping archive.ubuntu.com
08:48
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hit it!
08:48
ok
08:49
i again ltsp-buid-client and receive now
08:49
Leaving `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'
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`/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
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ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd': File exists
08:49
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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<Gadi>
delete /opt/ltsp
08:49
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
08:49
<Gadi>
then run again
08:49
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
08:49
running....
08:49
can i save all .deb downloaded to keep it?
08:50
<Gadi>
if u have an ubuntu cd you can use it instead of the web repo
08:51
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
how?
08:51* Gadi is unsure of exact syntax
08:51
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
anyway i save this .deb package
08:51
<Gadi>
again, a qu for ogra
08:51
;)
08:51
<dellin>
jammcq: what is differance in our ltsp and 2x
08:51
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
je
08:52
<dellin>
or any one able to tell me pls
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<jammcq>
dellin: ltsp is free
08:54
<Gadi>
dellin: they are different ways of achieving similar things
08:54
<cliebow>
ogra: are ppc machines orphaned at edgy..or can i build a ppc chroot for feisty
08:54
<Gadi>
the diffs are mostly implementation
08:54
<dellin>
and can u pls tell me techincally what is differance and features
08:54
<Gadi>
details are on both websites
08:55
there are too many to go into here
08:55
<jammcq>
dellin: sorry, I don't know anything about 2x
08:55
<dellin>
ok
08:55
<jammcq>
we specialize in LTSP, not 2x
08:55
<dellin>
thanks
08:57
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
errrr
08:57
libdiscover1 discover1 libaudiofile0 esound-common libesd-alsa0 esound human-cursors-theme ltspfsd usplash xfonts-100dpi
08:57
xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable libgl1-mesa-dri xterm xorg xresprobe
08:57
E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
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error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ltsp-build-client continues outing error
09:00
is that auto?
09:00
have ubuntu 6.10 installed right now and make steps of ltsp-doc of wiki
09:00
where is the easy way?
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<otavio>
jammcq: Hi
09:07
jammcq: when LTSP 5 was officially release?
09:08
jammcq: I saw it as available for download on the page but there's no date of release there. I'm writting an article about it for a magazine here of Brazil and would like to put it there
09:09
<jammcq>
otavio: well, that's a hard question, cuz it's not really "officially released". We put those tarballs up there last saturday
09:10
<otavio>
jammcq: so this is the release date I should put?
09:10
jammcq: and 4.2? 04/08/2006?
09:10
<jammcq>
well, it's as good as any, I suppose
09:10
4.2u4 was 2006
09:10
that's the latest update to ltsp-4.2
09:10
<otavio>
jammcq: no no, the first one
09:11
<jammcq>
hmm, lemme check
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<otavio>
jammcq: I'm writting this article for the Linux Magazine here in Brazil
09:12
jammcq: Its title is: Linux Terminal Server Project - The yestarday, today and tomorrow (it's in Portuguese)
09:12
jammcq: In English it's more like: The past, the present and the future
09:12
<jammcq>
yeah, APr 4th, 2006
09:12
seems like it was much longer ago
09:12
otavio: very cool about the magazine article
09:13
<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: try: sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
09:13
<otavio>
jammcq: can I bore you a little today with it? I hope you don't mind
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<jammcq>
"bore me" heh, sure
09:14
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Gadi: well.. let c now
09:14
<otavio>
jammcq: on the past I'll talk about the 4.2. Basically I want to guide the reader to understand what's the problems motivated us to work on the LTSP5 idea
09:14
<jammcq>
although I have to leave in about 45 minutes. gonna go checkout a new computer lab at Oakland University that just deployed 50 LTSP terminals
09:14
otavio: the MueKow specification should help with some of that information
09:14
<otavio>
jammcq: oh! great. No problem. It can be tomorrow
09:16
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Gadi: uff again forgot rm -rf /opt/ltsp O:)
09:16
is mirroring vs cdrom
09:19
Gadi: have error again
09:19
laptop-detect is already the newest version.
09:19
E: Couldn't find package ltspfsd
09:19
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
09:20
how fix that?
09:21
ping somebody?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ogra: ?
09:26
Gadi: !!
09:26
this not works!
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
heyyyyyyyyy!!!
09:39
root@opensource:~# aptitude install ltspfsd
09:39
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ltspfsd"
09:39
this ltsp ver 5 is unstable or what?
09:39
<jammcq>
moquist: ping
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
http://pastebin.ca/386372
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<moquist>
jammcq: pongo
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
somebody can help me!?
09:48
o.O
09:48
plz
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ogra: !
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Gadi: look
10:26
root@opensource:~# ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
10:26
I: Retrieving Release
10:26
E: Failed getting release file file:///cdrom/dists/edgy/Release
10:26
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
10:27
<Gadi>
is the edgy cd in the cdrom drive?
10:27
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
sure
10:27
<Gadi>
is it mounted?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
okok now yes
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10:28
<PBLUE>
DEAR Sir
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<PBLUE>
can everbody help me regarding nfs?
10:29
<Gadi>
PBLUE: if you can be more specific
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<PBLUE>
i am using mandrake 9.0 v
10:31
all dhcpd.conf ok
10:31
but only nfs 1 section
10:32
went i cek that the problem
10:32
the other 2 nfs section ok
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<PBLUE>
only the last one
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<PBLUE>
evertime i ltspadmin
10:33
he say....must boot then the nfs can run
10:34
i used /etc/init.d/nfs start its ok..
10:34
<Gadi>
when u type: showmount -e
10:34
<PBLUE>
its ok...
10:34
<Gadi>
do you get /opt/ltsp as one of the entries?
10:34
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Gadi: by cdrom have same problem
10:34
Building dependency tree... Done
10:34
laptop-detect is already the newest version.
10:34
E: Couldn't find package ltspfsd
10:34
i instaled by aptitude this package and installed ok
10:34
<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: rm -rf /opt/ltsp
10:35
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
and build client by cdrom out again the error
10:35
<PBLUE>
var
10:35
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i do that !
10:35
<PBLUE>
opt
10:35
showmount
10:35
all ok
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<Gadi>
PBLUE: so where's the error? when you boot the thin client?
10:36
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: you wouldn't get an error that something is already the newest version unless its already there
10:36
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
?
10:36
<Gadi>
when you run ltsp-build-client, the packages that are being downloaded are in the /opt/ltsp/i386 chroot
10:36
not the system
10:37
so, if you are getting that error, it means you ran it when /opt/ltsp already existed
10:37
<PBLUE>
ok gadi i will came back bring the erorrr ok tq
10:37
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
but client build is asking for ltspsfd packages
10:37
and cdrom not havent
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<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: lemme check something....
10:37
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
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<Gadi>
are you sure its an edgy CD?
10:38
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yes ubuntu 6.10 edgy cd alternative.iso
10:38
<Gadi>
hmm...
10:39
ltspfsd is in the main repository, so it should be on the D
10:39
er, CD
10:39
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i make later...the wiki.ltsp.5 ver
10:39
sudo aptitude blabla server
10:39
and later..
10:39
this by cdrom
10:39
and broken
10:39
word by word
10:39
if i select build
10:39
<Gadi>
you made what? ur own CD?
10:40
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no no
10:40
with your line
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
buildclient mirror file:///cdrom
10:40
and if i select normal standar
10:40
then conection out by archive.ubuntu.com
10:40
because not response the mirror
10:40
and the server response ok by ping
10:41
<Gadi>
do this: grep ubuntu.com /etc/apt/sources.list
10:41
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
have us.archive.ubuntu.com
10:42
but ltsp in the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
10:42
have
10:42
<blinky_ghost>
hi, I'm using ltsp-4.2, everything works fine but the mouse is darn fast, I've changed X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 20, but it's still fast, how can i slow it down?
10:42
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
archive.ubuntu.com
10:42
<Gadi>
ok. try: sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
10:42
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Go!
10:43
blinky_ghost: i guess use 400 not 20
10:43
<Gadi>
blinky_ghost: USB mouse?
10:43
<blinky_ghost>
gadi: ps/2
10:43
<Gadi>
blinky_ghost: try: X_USBMOUSE_DEVICE = "/dev/null"
10:43
in lts.conf
10:44
<blinky_ghost>
should i keep X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 20?
10:44
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
root@opensource:~# sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
10:44
I: Retrieving Release
10:44
E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/edgy/Release
10:44
<Gadi>
blinky_ghost: that prolly wont do anything :)
10:45
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
root@opensource:~# grep ubuntu.com /etc/apt/sources.list
10:45
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
10:45
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
10:45
ok now works
10:45
Gadi: is --mirror http://blablabla.com/ubuntu
10:46
:)
10:46* sh3mh4mf0r4sh is waiting again...... N times! :-|
10:46
<blinky_ghost>
gadi, that's it :) should I use this to usb mouses too?
10:46
<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: try: sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com main restricted"
10:47
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
is working now
10:47
<Gadi>
blinky_ghost: yeah - its a bug in LTSP 4.2
10:47
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
4.2 have many
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<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: not really
10:48
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
well... pen drives with loop FS not mounted
10:48
and the realtek 8111B of P4 onboard not have a kernel drive
10:48
<Gadi>
who plugs in a pen drive with a loop fs?
10:48
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
this are 2 more ..
10:49
here have some pen drives can mounted... and others not mounted for that
10:49
linux out many partitions logins volumes
10:49
and i formatted and nothing
10:49
<Gadi>
with *loop* fs?
10:49
surely not
10:49
<blinky_ghost>
gadi, thanks a lot :) let me ask you another thing: I'm using rdesktop script on a client, when he's working on excel and presses the "-" sign on num keyboard, it justs appears an EXT on the corner of the screen...I guess it's a rdesktop bug or something?
10:50
<Gadi>
blinky_ghost: you can pass a special keymap with rdesktop -k <keymap>
10:50
do you have a us keyboard?
10:51
<blinky_ghost>
no, portuguese
10:51
<Gadi>
is that ant?
10:51
whats the keymap?
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<blinky_ghost>
pt
10:52
-k pt
10:52
<Gadi>
right
10:52
do that
10:52
in lts.conf, make sure the rdesktop line is in ""
10:53
so: SCREEN_02 = "rdesktop -k pt <IP>"
10:53
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
need know how is instalation by sources like this http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/ because in many places can't access to internet :(
10:53
<blinky_ghost>
i have the -k pt on rdp_options, isn't the same thing?
10:53
<Gadi>
yeah, thats fine. as long as its in ""
10:54
<blinky_ghost>
ok
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<blinky_ghost>
i'll try
10:54
thanks a lot
10:54
<Gadi>
np
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<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: if that last command works, we may have needed to put "main restricted" after the cdrom call
10:56* Gadi not sure
10:56
<Gadi>
havent played with it much and didnt write the code
10:56
:(
10:56
<antgel>
hi all, i've borked my ltsp setup, and angry users hate me! :) dhcpd.conf at http://www.pastebin.ca/386452, clients boot with infinite loop of nfsmount: need a path // Begin: Retrying nfs mount
10:56
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Gadi: so what i type in the shell?
10:56
i'm retrieving all morning and not works nothing yet :S
10:57
this process is very bored
10:57
<antgel>
needless to say, i've checked everything i can think of and it's probably something stupid
10:59
<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: sorry. ur stuck with the guy who doesn't know the answer :)
10:59
just trying a few things
11:00
antgel: is this LTSP 5?
11:00
or 4.2?
11:01
<antgel>
Gadi: 4.2
11:01
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Gadi: yes have to wait by ogra i guess
11:01
<antgel>
hmm, i wonder if i'm accidentally booting into my muekow
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<Gadi>
antgel: I think you are
11:02
the filenames are muekow names
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<antgel>
Gadi: actually, i think i meant to use the muekow
11:06
my 4.2 never worked properly but i'll get it configured in the background
11:06
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
muekow? what is this?
11:06
<Gadi>
you *think*?
11:06
<antgel>
this is an alpha trial. :)
11:06
<ogra_>
Gadi, well, t6hen the dhcpd.conf wouldnt be that cluttered ;)
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<ogra_>
antgel, note that muecow uses /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
11:08
<Gadi>
ogra_: welcome to the party. save me from talking out of my arse, please... ;)
11:08
<ogra_>
(which is preconfigured in ubuntu at least, in debian you have to set it up)
11:08
Gadi, intresting that --mirror line above worked ... its not supposed to ;)
11:08
<antgel>
ogra_: wow. my muekow was working for a while until my latest dhcpd.conf "refactoring"
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11:09* Gadi doesnt think it did :)
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<ogra_>
sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu would be the right line
11:09
dont use components (main/universe etc) in it ... thats what the --components option is for
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<ogra_>
antgel, is that ubuntu or debian ?
11:10
<antgel>
ogra_: debian etch
11:10
i was using muekow now i think about it, and it was all working
11:10
<ogra_>
and the file you pasted was from /etc/ltsp ?
11:11
<antgel>
but i haven't deleted /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf - never had that file
11:11
<ogra_>
then you havent used muecow
11:11
ltsp-server-standalone installs that file
11:11
<bricode>
ogra: What version of Xorg is included in feisty? Is there a build script for fesity fat clients?
11:11
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uff at last
11:12
<antgel>
ogra_: i already had a dhcp server so didn't install ltsp-server-standalone, just ltsp-server
11:12
<ogra_>
bricode, nope, fat clientsd were deferred until we have a proper network authentication mechanism
11:12
<antgel>
that's still muekow, right?
11:12
<ogra_>
antgel, ah
11:12
right
11:12
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ogra_: need help from you tocan installed from sources the 5 ver when i can't acces to internet.. have here the +100 MB of tar.bz2
11:12
<ogra_>
as long as you used ltsp-build-client to build it, and didnt touch ltsp-utils its muecow
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<antgel>
ogra_: Gadi made me think, but my filenames are correct under /var/lib/tftpboot
11:13
<ogra_>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, there is no such thing like "installing ltsp5 from sources"
11:13
use the ltsp-öbuild-client script of your distro
11:13
<antgel>
ogra_: doesn't ltsp-utils overwrite only /opt/ltsp-4.2 and leave /opt/ltsp alone?
11:13
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/
11:13
what's that then?
11:13
<ogra_>
antgel, it changes tftp and other stuff
11:13
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, no idea
11:13
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
take a look
11:14
<ogra_>
antgel, also 4.2 uses /opt/ltsp
11:14
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, no time i'm very very busy
11:14
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i guess that was like 4.2u2.iso
11:14
ok inside exist this files
11:14
<ogra_>
asdk the person who9 created that tarballs
11:14
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
[ ] ltsp_debian_etch_i386-1.tar.bz2 04-Mar-2007 08:46 143M
11:14
[ ] ltsp_ubuntu_6.10_i386-1.tar.bz2 04-Mar-2007 08:47 124M
11:14
<bricode>
ogra_: Does Feisty include Xorg 7.2?
11:14
<ogra_>
i see the fiules
11:14
i dont have time to look at them
11:14
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ahh
11:14
<ogra_>
ansd i have no idea who made them
11:14
<antgel>
ogra_: i'll check my tftp config again
11:14
<ogra_>
ask the person who made them
11:15
antgel, 4.2 uses /tftpboot
11:15
muecow cant handle that
11:15
<antgel>
ogra_: i'm using /var/lib/tftpboot
11:15
<ogra_>
since it breaks FHS and debian policy
11:15
bricode, yes
11:16
bricode, since a week or so
11:16
<antgel>
i'm so pissed off, this was working all day
11:16
ogra_: i didn't use ltspadmin to alter tftp params, just to generate a new dhcpd.conf
11:16
which is in the pastebin
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<shah>
helo gadi
11:18
i need u help ref for nfs?
11:18
i am used mandrake 9.0
11:18
my prob is nfs?
11:19
<ogra_>
antgel, well, there is a bug open in debian about adding a package conflict between ltsp-server and ltsp-utils because nobody ever really tested what all breaks if you use them together
11:19
<antgel>
ogra_: ack. does my dhcpd.conf look sane?
11:19
<Gadi>
shah: are you and antgel related? ;)
11:19
<ogra_>
in ubuntu ltsp-utils was removeds from the archive in edgy already
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<ogra_>
i dont see any mistakes in it
11:20
<antgel>
ogra_: so wipe it and start again
11:20
<Gadi>
antgel: make sure you dont have a conflicting dhcp server on the same subnet
11:20
<ogra_>
right
11:20
<Gadi>
if you do, you can get nfs errors
11:20
<ogra_>
Gadi beats me :)
11:20
<antgel>
nah, it's just the one
11:21
<Gadi>
antgel: ok, but making sure will save you lots of d/l time ;)
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<ogra_>
antgel, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/dhcpd.conf-simple
11:22
<antgel>
ogra_: so basically, wipe it and start again. i recall local devices don't work on muekow, does that include printers?
11:22
<ogra_>
thats how our muecow default file looks like
11:22
just replace the IP data
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11:22
<antgel>
that's almost exactly what i have, except for the 192.168.2.10: in root-path
11:22* antgel edits the file
11:23
<shah>
helo anybody can help me regarding nfs?
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<antgel>
ooh, nfs server not responding, timed out
11:24
and now it's booting, wtf?
11:24
<shah>
yes
11:24
its booting
11:24
<antgel>
ogra_: is that normal during boot?
11:24
<shah>
showmount ok
11:24
etc
11:24
<ogra_>
antgel, depends, some slow NICs have probs with nfs timing out
11:24
<shah>
init.d
11:25
nfs
11:25
all ok
11:25
<antgel>
so root-path shouldn't contain an IP address in muekow
11:25
<ogra_>
antgel, wiki.ltsp.org has a reciepe
11:25
<shah>
but when cek ltspadmin
11:25
its no?
11:25
pls..
11:25
<ogra_>
antgel, well, it *shouldÜ* work with IP ... if it defuinately doesnt thats a bug
11:26
<shah>
how to change back to yes?
11:26
<ogra_>
so please file one about it :)
11:26
<antgel>
ogra_: i'll change it back and let you know
11:26
<shah>
[root@localhost root]# /sbin/service nfs status rpc.mountd (pid 2672) is running... nfsd (pid 2660) is running... 2659 (pid 2658) is running... 2657 (pid 2656) is running... 2655 (pid 2654) is running... 2651 (pid ) is running... [root@localhost root]# [root@localhost root]# /sbin/service nfs status rpc.mountd (pid 2672) is running... nfsd (pid 2660) is running... 2659 (pid 2658) is running... 2657 (pid 2656) is running... 2655 (pid 2654) is running... 2651 (pid
11:26
everting its ok
11:27
<antgel>
ogra_: that was the issue it seems
11:27
<shah>
i do k12ltsp its ok no problem...
11:28
<ogra_>
antgel, would youo file a bug ? either in debians BTS or in launchpad ? ( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+filebug )
11:28
<shah>
whent used ltsp to mix its probelem...
11:28
<antgel>
yep no problem
11:28
<ogra_>
thanks :)
11:28
<shah>
so what i was to do nfs?????
11:28
<ogra_>
i'll try to tryck it down before the feisty release
11:29
*track
11:29
<antgel>
now to find out how to get a host stanza in without the messy group {} thing in the 4.2 docs
11:29
<ogra_>
even though debian might have to do a backport then
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<antgel>
does ltsp work with .local, mdns, avahi etc, or do i have to run a zone on a traditional dns server, to get hostnames?
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<AMSmith42>
Would it make the most sense to use the same distro that I want to use on my thin clients (i.e. Kubuntu) for my server?
11:38
Or does it even matter?
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<cliebow>
AMSmith42, the clients will use the desktop of your server
11:42
It Is the server you see
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<AMSmith42>
Thank you.
11:43
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uff
11:43
ogra_: have same problem
11:43
with mirror
11:44
Adding `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'
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`/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
11:44
Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.6). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 91.189.89.6 80]
11:45
this build-client not works
11:46
Reading package lists... Done
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E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
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error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
11:48
so!!?? what i do then.. if apt not works!?
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<mistik1>
oh blast, connection unstable today
11:55
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Reading package lists... Done
11:55
Building dependency tree... Done
11:55
laptop-detect is already the newest version.
11:55
E: Couldn't find package ltspfsd
11:55
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
11:58
<cliebow>
is this where 6ou ask questions about madcow?
12:00
<mistik1>
This is where you ask about fatted calf
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hey.. no one know why build client has error ^ ?
12:01
have all morning in this ...
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<mistik1>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: can you get to this in your browser reliably? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
12:28
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yes
12:28
Name Last modified Size [DIR] ubuntu/ 08-Mar-2007 18:12
12:29
including the official site of build-client i can hit too
12:30
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
12:30
btw all are retreive by this same sources.list
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i test 2 mirror differents and build with cdrom and either
12:40
uff
12:40
this not works
12:40
i try with etch to fetch this
12:40
ubuntu not works
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<dmorar>
hi
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<dmorar>
hi, i have two questions, how can i disconnect (and see who is connected) users from terminals?, and also aan i use rdp with ltsp (so i can ontrol my terminals)?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
reee
13:55
i'm building now vs my mirror local to make this fastes
13:56
and with etch
14:00
well... have a nice point of view
14:00
with etch works
14:00
ubuntu edgy broken because have to rm again
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opt/ltsp
14:05
hey..
14:05
plas plas plas ... now build client again
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:)
14:05
works cool
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<mrchicken>
Hello =)
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hey
15:21
i can run client
15:21
but
15:21
now
15:22
stay trying to nfsmount
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and error said
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nfsmount need a path
15:22
where i set it?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ogra_: ?
15:23
Gadi: ?
15:23
cliebow_: ?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mistik1: ?
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<bricode>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: Do you have root-path defined in dhcpd.conf?
15:30
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yes
15:31
lemme check again... i try to test the 5 ver
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no .. not work
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:/
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said. nfs mount
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
catch ip
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broadcast
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netmas
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gw
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domain
15:34
rootserver : with ip
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rootpah: ip:/path
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filename : thefile
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begin
15:35
Done
15:35
and said again
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trying nfsmount
15:35
need a path
15:35
:s
15:35
that's all
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any idea?
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<bricode>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: No, sorry.
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i guess this ltsp 5 resolve all this :|
15:36
but finish with work half
15:36
have to separete the tftp
15:36
of inet to run like a daemon
15:36
because have tftp problems 1st
15:36
anyway . i fix that
15:37
but now nfs is the problem
15:37
:(
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<mrchicken>
I have the same prob
15:37
nfs and permissions
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<mrchicken>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh ... did you disable SELinux?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
selinux?
15:38
how can i do that?
15:39
how can i know if selinux is enable or not? :\
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mrchicken: u have the clientes again and again trying to mount nfs? mount ???
15:42
s/clientes/clients
15:42* sh3mh4mf0r4sh is hispan
15:42
<mrchicken>
I speak spanish :)
15:43
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no jodas!
15:43
con el trabajo que paso aqui pa hablar ingles
15:43
xD
15:43
<mrchicken>
si si
15:43
de donde eres :)
15:43
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cuba
15:43
tu?
15:43
<mrchicken>
ahhh vea pues
15:43
Colombia
15:43
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yap
15:44
a ti se te resetea las clientes con la gracia esta?
15:44
que tratan y tratan y tratan?
15:44
pero no se monta?
15:44
<mrchicken>
a mi me sale Kernel Panic
15:44
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ah nnono
15:44
a mino
15:44
a mi me corre normal
15:44
me parece que camino un poco mas que tu en el kernel
15:44
ven aca y como se si el selinux famosos ese lo tengo activado
15:44
pq no tengo nad que ver con esa talla
15:45
pense que el ltsp5 era automatico y lo queme ha echo es dejar las cosas a medias..
15:45
nama sirvio pa aptear lso paquetes nada mas
15:45
:S
15:45
<mrchicken>
por eso es que yo estoy con el 4.2
15:45
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
tuve que copiar los /etc/hosts [.allow] exports del 4.2
15:45
y pa colmo crear = del 4.2 el lts.conf
15:45
pq no esta en el directorio donde debe ir
15:46* bricode needs to learn Spanish.
15:46
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mrchicken: si yo tambien pero tengo bateo con las flashes que algunas me montan otra no por culpa de la tabla de ficheros
15:46
bricode: i can learn you if you teach me english better :P
15:46
<bricode>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: Excellent. Cuba is on my list of places to visit :)
15:47
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhmm
15:47
where i hear that!?
15:47
ok....
15:47
<mrchicken>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh ... deberias probar con VMWare
15:47
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
nanna p que?
15:47
<mrchicken>
asi te ahorras la reiniciada mamona
15:47
de mil maquinas
15:47
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
nonno si lo estoyo tirando con un cruzado
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directo a la laptop
15:48
a ver si levanta
15:48
pero esta ahi ahi ahi tratando de montar el NFS :/
15:48
somebody is active too?
15:48
bricode: your english friends stay out here :(
15:49
<mrchicken>
now I get I have no options-root in my dhcpd conf
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
mrchicken: resolvistes algo mas?
15:53
<mrchicken>
Nooo cuales
15:54
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
te sigue dando kernel panic?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
bueno
15:56
me fui
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<mistik1>
.
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<antgel>
hi all, can someone who is logging the channel paste me a /lastlog antgel in /msg please - i was here earlier but lost the ltsp bug reporting url
16:38
ooh, don't worry, my bug is already known http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=395145
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<cliebow_>
mistik1:..:..:..:..
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<jammcq>
awful darned quiet around here
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<jammcq>
Gadi: ?
21:33
<Gadi>
just playing
21:33
:)
21:34
my battery should die soon
21:34
<jammcq>
heh
21:34
<Gadi>
d/l'd the 686 kernel for my lappy
21:34
wow-what a difference
21:34
<jammcq>
what distro?
21:34
<Gadi>
edgy
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<jammcq>
there's a separate 686 kernel?
21:34
<Gadi>
yeah
21:34
much faster than 386
21:35
<jammcq>
linux-image-686 - Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic
21:35
<Gadi>
right
21:35
so its the generic one
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vs. the stock 386 one
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<jammcq>
hmm
21:36
I just checked my edgy desktop, and it's got linux-image-generic
21:36
no mention of 386
21:36
<Gadi>
my lappy's a product of a dist-upgrade
21:36
and I had linux-image-386
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<jammcq>
ooooooh
21:36
so, I won't gain anything by going to linux-image-686
21:37
<Gadi>
right
21:37
but check this:
21:37
this thing is a P3/1GHz with i810 chipset
21:37
now, video's fully accelarated
21:37
and kernel's running super fast
21:37
<jammcq>
wow
21:37
cool
21:38
<Gadi>
even playing with beryl is nice
21:38
:)
21:38
I love when computers get better with age ;)
21:41
so whats new jammcq?
21:42
<jammcq>
umm, just keeping busy
21:42
you?
21:42
<Gadi>
not much
21:43
<bricode>
Either of you guys coming up to Linuxworld in Toronto at the end of April?
21:43
<Gadi>
not I
21:43
Im knee deep in diapers these days
21:43
<jammcq>
not i
21:43
<Gadi>
and not the kind you wear on a long ride to toronto
21:43
<bricode>
jammcq: You're heading to FISL though right?
21:44
Gadi: It's only an hour flight...
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<jammcq>
bricode: you betcha
21:44
<bricode>
jammcq: Any other LTSP cats heading South?
21:45* vagrantc wonders how far south from what relative point
21:45
<bricode>
vagrantc: Brazil.
21:45
<jammcq>
bricode: sbalneav will be with me
21:45
<vagrantc>
FISL ?
21:45
<jammcq>
30 degrees south of the equator
21:46
<bricode>
jammcq: Nice. Well, if the situation presents itself, I'd like to sit down for a caiperina.
21:46
<Gadi>
looks like beryl and totem dont play nicely together
21:46
*sigh*
21:47
and my battery dies in 18 minutes
21:47
which is prolly closer to 12 due to nonlinearities
21:47
<jammcq>
bricode: you'l be there?
21:47
<bricode>
Question of the night: I deleted a file in a local git clone. What's the best way to recover it?
21:47* jammcq knows nothing of git
21:48
<bricode>
jammcq: Yeah, I fly down with Maddog on the 5th, do some biz, hit FISL, then fly back.
21:48
<Gadi>
isnt git a racial slur?
21:48
<bricode>
Gadi: Offiside :)
21:48
err, offside even.
21:48
<Gadi>
I refuse to use racially insensitive programs
21:49
specially ones I dont understand
21:49
I often refrain from git, gimp,
21:49
...
21:49
;)
21:49
why must we be so offensive?
21:49
<bricode>
Gadi: git has a steep learning curve, that's for sure. Certainly not initially intuitive.
21:49
<Gadi>
maybe its because we're thin and not PC
21:49
:)
21:50
c'mon, give it up for Gadi
21:50* vagrantc gives something up
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<Gadi>
thanks everybody - catch my 12 oclock show
21:50
vagrantc: where you been hiding?
21:50
y'old git
21:50
:)
21:50
<vagrantc>
Gadi: so, you avoid programs but use the words?
21:50
<Gadi>
just practicing
21:50
Im open to new ideas
21:51
even offensive ones
21:51
<vagrantc>
ah, yes, well... i'm in one of the "new" states.
21:51
<Gadi>
ironic, no?
21:51
i'm so torn and confused
21:51
must be my generation
21:51
"new" states?
21:51
did we finally force upstate new york to secede?
21:51
<bricode>
Canada?
21:52
<vagrantc>
Gadi: there's a handful of states that claim to be the new whatever.
21:52
<Gadi>
they must be the ones we ignore here in the North
21:52
:)
21:52
as long as we keep getting vegetables in the market
21:53
:)
21:53* vagrantc laughs heartily
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<Gadi>
mistik1, if you're here, I'm powering down in a bit and am too lazy to find my power cord
21:55
why does gnome power manager keep reporting more battery life?
21:56
I must be charging this thing with my wit
21:56
<jammcq>
heh
21:56
something tells me it's gonna die soon
21:57
<Gadi>
maybe thats why the lil battery lights are winking at me
21:57
so whats with all these bots in this channel these days?
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<vagrantc>
my battery reporting is so almost totally worthless...
21:58
<Gadi>
!ltsppbot
21:58
<ltspbot>
Gadi: Error: "ltsppbot" is not a valid command.
21:58
<Gadi>
ltsppbot: who are you?
21:58
<jammcq>
he's the pastebot
21:58
<Gadi>
sounds an awful lot like jammcq
21:58
I like a bot that does impressions
21:58
<vagrantc>
ltspbot: !topics
21:58
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: Error: "!topics" is not a valid command.
21:58
<Gadi>
:)
21:58
<jammcq>
he announces new pastes, if someone pastes something to pastebot.ltsp.org
21:59
<vagrantc>
!topics
21:59
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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<Gadi>
!pastebot
21:59
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
21:59
<Gadi>
i shoulda known mistik would bring back pastebot
21:59
he took him out for an awful long walk
22:00
how come we dont call him pastebot?
22:00
does someone else have that nick?
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<jammcq>
nope, the pastebot is one of the things we actually finished last weekend
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<Gadi>
strong work
22:01
<vagrantc>
"finished" ?
22:01
<Gadi>
pastebin sux
22:01
vagrantc: she is perfect
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: you are mighty talkative tonight :)
22:04
<Gadi>
just punchy after a day of tanning beneath this infernal screen
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<Gadi>
ok. g'night all. 2moro is another day
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