IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 3 December 2013   (all times are UTC)

00:04gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
00:09gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
00:32christophe_y2k has left IRC (christophe_y2k!~christoph@man06-3-78-237-22-85.fbx.proxad.net, Quit: Leaving.)
01:06gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
01:10gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
01:39Phantomas has joined IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas)
02:05gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
02:09gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
02:21andygraybeal has joined IRC (andygraybeal!~andy@165.171.240.45)
02:26vagrantc has joined IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@freegeek/vagrantc)
02:37xcom has left IRC (xcom!~wtf@pdpc/supporter/professional/seri, Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
02:44gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
02:48xcom has joined IRC (xcom!~wtf@pdpc/supporter/professional/seri)
03:45gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Remote host closed the connection)
03:45gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
03:48andygraybeal has left IRC (andygraybeal!~andy@165.171.240.45, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
03:50gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
04:16gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
04:21gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
04:54alexqwesa has joined IRC (alexqwesa!~alex@109.172.12.47)
05:05gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
05:05alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg)
05:06
<alkisg>
20:15<vagrantc> alkisg: regarding cdpingerless ltspfs... the last steps are to find some rules for debain that create add/remove events after insertion? ==> yup, either rules or software (udisks)
05:07
Or, we can ship different hooks for debian (change events) vs ubuntu (add events)
05:10gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
05:11vagrantc has left IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@freegeek/vagrantc, Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
05:12vagrantc has joined IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@freegeek/vagrantc)
05:12
<vagrantc>
meh
05:13
alkisg: i'm thinking we should start with different rulesets, just to get it moving
05:14
can always sync up later
05:14
tossing out cdpinger would be real nice.
05:15
<alkisg>
vagrantc: sure, and we can get feedback from other distros in the meantime
05:15
<vagrantc>
alkisg: just pushed some changes to the debian packaging brnach you might want to review
05:15
alkisg: for ltsp
05:15* alkisg looks...
05:16
<vagrantc>
alkisg: for ltspfs, i guess i could just not build it but leave it in the source and patch it out
05:16
cdpinger, that is
05:17
alkisg: probably not yet mirrored to launchpad... if that ever resolves itself
05:21
<alkisg>
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/158146200/vagrantc-ltsp-ltsp-debian-packaging.log
05:21freedomrun has joined IRC (freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun)
05:21
<vagrantc>
oh yeah, and i can't fix it because someone else is using the branch for a recipe.
05:21
<alkisg>
No branch found at remote location.
05:22
vagrantc: https://launchpad.net/~rsarramera-b/+contactuser
05:22
Ping him to temporarily remove his recipe..?
05:23
<vagrantc>
or rather, the only way to fix the branch source is to delete it and recreate it with a new url
05:26
<alkisg>
The packaging looks fine, and the idea about leaving cdpinger in the source tree for a while sounds nice too
05:27
<vagrantc>
alkisg: you're ok with all those extra deps?
05:28
<alkisg>
I didn't look in depth why they're there, but we're using 1+ gb chroots here, I don't mind with a few extra deps :)
05:29* alkisg would like to get plymouth outside the ubuntu initramfs, though.... stgraber?
05:29
<alkisg>
(ltsp puts it there)
05:31
bbl...
05:32alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.)
05:34Phantomas has left IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
05:36clepto has joined IRC (clepto!~chadlepto@unaffiliated/chadlepto)
05:39ChadLepto has left IRC (ChadLepto!~chadlepto@unaffiliated/chadlepto, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
05:40clepto is now known as ChadLepto
05:48
<vagrantc>
stgraber: sync'ed the ltsp packaging changes that were pretty easy in bzr, but still left out a lot.
05:49
stgraber: still left out ltsp-cluster (/usr/sbin/inventory seems a bit too generic)
05:50
stgraber: fat-client support in debian requires specifying the desktop, so that'd fail
05:51
stgraber: merged most of debian/control
05:51
stgraber: and merged the PID race condition for the udeb
05:51* vagrantc now thinks this would've best been an email
05:52
<vagrantc>
stgraber: oh, and i added ltsp-open, used for remoteapps
05:52
stgraber: so still a big diff, but at least debian/control is sync'ed
05:54
stgraber: oh, you'll want to put Ubuntu after debian in the *.install files, otherwise you'll overwrite ubuntu hooks with debian ones
05:54
though the one case i saw it's a no-op
05:54
well, a non-issue
05:55
bennabiy: so ubuntu trusty should now contain the linuxmint support
05:58vagrantc has left IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@freegeek/vagrantc, Quit: leaving)
06:05gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
06:10gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
06:31alexqwesa has left IRC (alexqwesa!~alex@109.172.12.47, Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
07:00andygraybeal has joined IRC (andygraybeal!~andy@165.171.240.45)
07:05gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
07:10gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
07:14andygraybeal has left IRC (andygraybeal!~andy@165.171.240.45, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
07:45mikkel has joined IRC (mikkel!~mikkel@80-199-146-42-static.dk.customer.tdc.net)
07:49alexqwesa has joined IRC (alexqwesa!~alex@109.172.12.47)
08:12pentest has joined IRC (pentest!~pentest@121.99.40.190)
08:14gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
08:18gbaman_ has joined IRC (gbaman_!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
08:21cyberorg has joined IRC (cyberorg!~cyberorg@opensuse/member/Cyberorg)
08:22gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
08:23gbaman_ has left IRC (gbaman_!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
08:36work_alkisg has left IRC (work_alkisg!~alkisg@plinet.ioa.sch.gr, Quit: Leaving.)
08:37pentest has left IRC (pentest!~pentest@121.99.40.190, Quit: Leaving)
08:49freedomrun has left IRC (freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun, Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish)
08:53work_alkisg has joined IRC (work_alkisg!~alkisg@plinet.ioa.sch.gr)
09:02bennabiy has left IRC (bennabiy!~Thunderbi@24-181-55-79.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com, Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
09:03bennabiy has joined IRC (bennabiy!~Thunderbi@24-181-55-79.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com)
10:10Phantomas has joined IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas)
10:14alexqwesa has left IRC (alexqwesa!~alex@109.172.12.47, Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
10:25Phantomas has left IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas, Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
10:25Phantomas has joined IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas)
10:42freedomrun has joined IRC (freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun)
10:46work_alkisg has left IRC (work_alkisg!~alkisg@plinet.ioa.sch.gr, Remote host closed the connection)
10:52Phantomas has left IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas, Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
10:52work_alkisg has joined IRC (work_alkisg!~alkisg@plinet.ioa.sch.gr)
10:58work_alkisg has left IRC (work_alkisg!~alkisg@plinet.ioa.sch.gr, Quit: Leaving.)
11:08work_alkisg has joined IRC (work_alkisg!~alkisg@plinet.ioa.sch.gr)
11:12alexqwesa has joined IRC (alexqwesa!~alex@109.172.12.47)
11:17staffencasa_ has left IRC (staffencasa_!~staffenca@8-220.ptpg.oregonstate.edu, Read error: Connection reset by peer)
11:19staffencasa has joined IRC (staffencasa!~staffenca@8-220.ptpg.oregonstate.edu)
11:31andygraybeal has joined IRC (andygraybeal!~andy@165.171.240.45)
11:44cyberorg has left IRC (cyberorg!~cyberorg@opensuse/member/Cyberorg, Quit: cyberorg)
11:54andygraybeal has left IRC (andygraybeal!~andy@165.171.240.45, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
12:33Phantomas has joined IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas)
12:48adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@187.115.109.81, Read error: Connection reset by peer)
12:53adrianorg has joined IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@179.187.31.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br)
12:58workingcats has joined IRC (workingcats!~workingca@212.122.48.77)
13:00alexqwesa has left IRC (alexqwesa!~alex@109.172.12.47, Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
13:09lbssousa_ has joined IRC (lbssousa_!~lbssousa@177.143.10.128)
13:14
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: That is encouraging
13:17mikkel has left IRC (mikkel!~mikkel@80-199-146-42-static.dk.customer.tdc.net, Quit: Leaving)
13:20PhoenixSTF has joined IRC (PhoenixSTF!~rudi@78.29.159.239)
13:36bobby_C has joined IRC (bobby_C!~bobby@85-124-22-227.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at)
13:52
<rickogden>
afternoon
13:53
I've added SHUTDOWN_TIME to the lts.conf file
13:53
and now as soon as it a client boots up it comes up with the dialogue box "This system will halt in 10s."
13:54
anyone else come across this?
13:54alexqwesa has joined IRC (alexqwesa!~alex@109.172.12.47)
13:54* Hyperbyte frowns
13:55
<rickogden>
ah, seems to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/604908
14:02b3x has joined IRC (b3x!~brian@74.67.159.18)
14:04
<b3x>
good morning, i was in here yesterday with an issue regarding jetpipe. it would not stay running on my thin clients. i am using ubuntu 13.10. I set a cron job to run on the thin clients to restart jetpipe if it wasnt running , and that seems to be getting the job done this morning. was wondering if anyone else was seeing similar problems with jetpipe?
14:11
<cliebow>
b3x:i m sure someone will get back to you..all pretty busy
14:14
<Hyperbyte>
rickogden, if you're just trying to shut down idle clients, try my hack here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Tips_and_Tricks/User_Experience#Shutting_down_idle_clients
14:14
I just wrote that up actually.
14:15
<rickogden>
Hyperbyte: thanks
14:16
it seems that SHUTDOWN_TIME will shutdown any client which is switched on after the time specified
14:16
<Hyperbyte>
Yes.
14:16
<rickogden>
so if I tell it to shutdown at 3am
14:16
it will attempt to shutdown for the rest of the day
14:16
<Hyperbyte>
!learn shutdownidle as http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Tips_and_Tricks/User_Experience#Shutting_down_idle_clients
14:16
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
14:16
<Hyperbyte>
That link only shuts down clients which aren't logged in, after 10 minutes of not being logged in
14:17
<rickogden>
yeah, I'll use that
14:20bobby_C has left IRC (bobby_C!~bobby@85-124-22-227.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at, Quit: Goin' down hard)
14:22alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg)
14:24jammcq has joined IRC (jammcq!~jam@c-69-245-75-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
14:47
<Hyperbyte>
rickogden, let me know how it works for you
14:48
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: if ! pgrep ssh; then ... is easier to read
14:53
Also, that "sleep 600" should run in background too...
14:53
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, feel free to edit
14:53
It's a wiki. ;-)
14:54
<alkisg>
Nope
14:54
<Hyperbyte>
Yep.
14:54
<alkisg>
I don't like wikis where anyone edits any page
14:54
I like wikis where each person maintains specific pages
14:54
<Hyperbyte>
Because I'm pretty sure the sleep command does run in the background
14:54
I believe & precedes &&
14:55
Try running sleep 2 && echo blah & in a terminal
14:55
<alkisg>
Yeah looks like you're rihgt
14:55
<Hyperbyte>
WIN!
14:55
<alkisg>
:)
14:55
Although... I do have many more objections :D
14:55
<Hyperbyte>
I never thought I'd see the day where I got to correct you on something bash. :-D
14:56
<alkisg>
What if someone logs in for 9 minutes?
14:56
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, sure... I can name a few too. It's easy hack.
14:56
Yeah, or what if someone leaves their PC for 9 minutes and 50 seconds and then starts to log in
14:56
<alkisg>
That's a "rounding error", it's justified...
14:56
The other one is a logic error
14:57
<Hyperbyte>
Not for me.
14:57
Employees here work for 8 hours, not 9 minutes.
14:58
<alkisg>
...ok, I was about to suggest some better solution but looks like you don't need it :)
14:58
<Hyperbyte>
Well, like I said... feel free to improve. :)
15:01
It's just a quick & dirty hack to accomplish what I see a lot of people asking here
15:01
And I've implemented the idle shutdown bit as described both here at work and at the radio station... works fine for us all. :-)
15:19
<rickogden>
Hyperbyte: yeah it does, I've modified it to use poweroff rather than shutdown
15:20
not left something logged in, which is the next test, but I assume if a fat client is logged on, then it must have an ssh connection to mount the home directory
15:20
<Hyperbyte>
rickogden, yep, works with both fat and thin.
15:21
<rickogden>
I'm still trying to workout why the standard shutdown scripts won't power off the client fully
15:21
<Hyperbyte>
Also, I believe for your server (stale nbd connections and such) it is better to shutdown than to poweroff... but it might not matter much.
15:22
<rickogden>
Hyperbyte: yeah it is, but the clients won't power off
15:22
<Hyperbyte>
Ah... that's why you switched. :)
15:22
<rickogden>
I have to run poweroff -fp
15:22
for the clients to fully shutdown and power fof
15:22
s/fof/off
15:23
I've written an ltsp-init.d script to replace the existing halt/poweroff scripts
15:29
http://pastebin.com/JGkhhmPM
15:38cliebow has left IRC (cliebow!~cliebow@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us, Remote host closed the connection)
15:57brunolambert has joined IRC (brunolambert!brunolambe@nat/revolutionlinux/x-oiukjrnqzmlldbfr)
15:57brunolambert1 has left IRC (brunolambert1!brunolambe@nat/revolutionlinux/x-yxqwghuivhdvsggi, Read error: Connection reset by peer)
16:18vagrantc has joined IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@freegeek/vagrantc)
16:28freedomrun has left IRC (freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun, Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish)
16:30garymc has joined IRC (garymc!~chatzilla@host81-148-21-16.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
16:36lns has joined IRC (lns!~lns@173-16-199-235.client.mchsi.com)
16:36lns has joined IRC (lns!~lns@pdpc/supporter/professional/lns)
17:13garymc has left IRC (garymc!~chatzilla@host81-148-21-16.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018])
17:20alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.)
18:04rkwesk has joined IRC (rkwesk!5e470f4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.71.15.79)
18:06
<rkwesk>
Today I visited a school that has only some computers connected with ethernet. The rest are wireless.
18:06
I know that we have said that ltsp only works with ethernet.
18:09
What I'm hoping is that there might be a way to start the wireless pc's with a local disk containing both the kernel andthe initram disk thatmight load the wifi driver needed and then use the tftp protocol.
18:10
<vagrantc>
technically possible, yes.
18:10
a good idea, probably not.
18:11
you're going to have very laggy terminals over wifi
18:11
<rkwesk>
Failing this possibility, might there be a solution that connects the wireless pc with the xserver of the ltsp server?
18:11
<vagrantc>
since they'll all be sharing a single connection to the server
18:11
sure, nothing tsp-specific, though
18:12
something like x2go might work
18:12
<rkwesk>
Are you advising not to pursue such a plan?
18:12* ogra_ heard from several people using hardware solutions ... ethernet-wlan-bridges
18:12
<vagrantc>
overall, it's probably not a good idea
18:13
yeah, a bridge could work, but still limited by the bandwidth and latency and network congestion of wifi
18:13
<ogra_>
well, you can get 150Mbps across nowadays ...
18:14
<vagrantc>
divided by the number of thin clients...
18:14
<ogra_>
would be sufficiant for a desktop ... not for fullscreen video playback perhaps
18:14
no, not if you use one bridge per client
18:14
then the wire is the limit again
18:14
<rkwesk>
I am speaking of clients with 512 MB ram or more.
18:14
<ogra_>
its just expensive
18:14
<vagrantc>
there's still interference of all that wifi
18:15
it just wouldn't scale to more than a few clients
18:16
<ogra_>
yeah, you wont serve 100s
18:16
<rkwesk>
Thank you for the input. I'll keep looking how they might extend their cabling.
18:16
<b3x>
put an install on USB disk?
18:17
thumb drives are cheap
18:17
<vagrantc>
yeah, then it's not really LTSP
18:17
<rkwesk>
The clients all have proper disks.
18:17
<vagrantc>
and the mai problem isn't the root filesystem over the wifi, it's the session
18:18
<rkwesk>
That's what I'm hearing. I didn't have any experience .
18:19
Thank you again.
18:19
Signing off now
18:19rkwesk has left IRC (rkwesk!5e470f4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.71.15.79, Quit: Page closed)
18:44
<||cw>
ogra_: what do you mean one bridge per wifi?
18:44
per client..
18:46
ogra_: the limit is on the AP side, it's 150Mbps per AP. minus noise and spectrum time-slicing.
18:49PhoenixSTF has left IRC (PhoenixSTF!~rudi@78.29.159.239, Remote host closed the connection)
19:02lbssousa_ has left IRC (lbssousa_!~lbssousa@177.143.10.128, Quit: Saindo)
19:08workingcats has left IRC (workingcats!~workingca@212.122.48.77, Quit: Leaving)
19:19gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
19:20
<lifeboy>
Hi all!
19:21gbaman_ has joined IRC (gbaman_!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
19:21* vagrantc waves
19:21gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Read error: Connection reset by peer)
19:22
<lifeboy>
I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTSP with the Greek PPA and a Wheezy chroot, but something is not as I expect it should be
19:23Phantomas has left IRC (Phantomas!~Phantomas@ubuntu/member/phantomas, Quit: Leaving.)
19:23freedomrun has joined IRC (freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun)
19:24
<lifeboy>
When I ltsp-update-image or ltsp-update-image, it always defaults to booting the chroot with NFS. Is that correct?
19:26
I know debian LTSP defaults to that, but understood from alkisg in previous discussions on this, that booting a wheezy chroot from an Ubuntu server, I must change the config to use NBD, or should I install an NFS server on Ubuntu to facility mounting the image?
19:29
<vagrantc>
lifeboy: you'll need to configure /opt/ltsp/<wheey_chroot>/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
19:29
i think there's a variable called BOOT_METHODS
19:32
BOOT_METHODS="NFS NBD" ... change it to "NBD NFS" or just "NBD"
19:32
then run ltsp-chroot --arch <wheezy_chroot> /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels
19:33gbaman_ has left IRC (gbaman_!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Remote host closed the connection)
19:33
<vagrantc>
and then: ltsp-update-image ; ltsp-update-kernels
19:34
lifeboy: alternately configuring the server to support NFS
19:34
that shouldn't be too hard
19:34
<lifeboy>
I did dig around there, but didn't change anything. I couldn't find the update-kernels which previously was in the chroot, but I 'll try this and let's see if I get it all right!
19:35gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
19:35
<vagrantc>
lifeboy: do you have multiple chroots?
19:35
<lifeboy>
No, just the one. I created a new server in VM to test this.
19:36
<vagrantc>
ok, then you shouldn't need to specify -arch
19:36
--arch
19:37
alkisg and I speced out plans for the future that should hopefully be simpler
19:38
<lifeboy>
vagrantc: one more thing. The nbd-server on Ubuntu: do I have to configure it for old-style using port=200x or should I leave that with named pipes (I think which is the default)
19:39
<vagrantc>
i *hope* it uses named exports
19:39
but i don't remember if 12.04 does
19:39
<lifeboy>
I yes, it doesn't set a port by default
19:39
Let me test it an check if it work
19:39
wors
19:39
<vagrantc>
it does use a different naming scheme than wheezy, unfortunately
19:39
<lifeboy>
works! :-o
19:39gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
19:40
<vagrantc>
oh, good
19:40
maybe it grabbed it from dhcp.
19:40
<lifeboy>
sorry, I meant to say "I'll check if it works", but I typed is wrong each time!
19:42
<vagrantc>
i need to get my bug report filed to support images over NFS working out-of-the box...
19:50alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg)
19:58gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
20:01telex has left IRC (telex!~telex@freeshell.de, Remote host closed the connection)
20:02
<lifeboy>
vagrantc: the nbd-server works by default, no need to set the old style port.
20:03gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Read error: No route to host)
20:04
<lifeboy>
I have just added a user and openssh-server to the chroot so I can see why I can't logon once I get the debian logon screen
20:04telex has joined IRC (telex!~telex@freeshell.de)
20:06
<vagrantc>
i wonder if ubuntu's ltsp-update-sshkeys is incompatible...
20:06gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
20:07
<alkisg>
19:39<vagrantc> it does use a different naming scheme than wheezy, unfortunately ==> not with the greek ppa, there the same names are used :)
20:09freedomrun has left IRC (freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun, Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
20:16
<vagrantc>
alkisg: aha! :)
20:17
<alkisg>
vagrantc: also, about the wifi stuff, there's always this:
20:17
!local-boot
20:17
<ltsp>
local-boot: If you want LTSP fat clients on a low-speed network, you can put i386.img on e.g. C:\Boot\LTSP\i386.img and use this command line in pxelinux.cfg: APPEND ro initrd=ltsp/i386/initrd.img init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/sda1 rootflags=ro loop=/Boot/LTSP/i386.img; IPAPPEND 3
20:17
<alkisg>
I.e. transfer i386 locally and tell grub2 to use it
20:18
<vagrantc>
sure, though it still has issues for the actual session
20:18
<alkisg>
What issues?
20:18
A wifi connection is OK for sshfs...
20:18
<vagrantc>
if you've got 30+ clients all connecting via wifi?
20:19
fatclients are probably fine, sure
20:19
<alkisg>
No, Richard was asking about 5-10 clients, typical primary schools...
20:19
(fat ones)
20:19
Thin clients => nope, not even 2-3 of them
20:19
<vagrantc>
right
20:20* vagrantc -> luncherbreakfasterdinner
20:20
<alkisg>
:)
20:24freedomrun has joined IRC (freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun)
20:24
<lifeboy>
I'm making progress :-) Although, after login on the client I get a log entry "nbd9: unknown partition table" and I'm returned to the login screen.
20:26
I found some references to things like possible not have the same version of squashfs on the client and server... ?
20:26
<alkisg>
The nbd9 message is normal, the returning to login screen isn't
20:26
Wheezy and 12.04 + Greek PPA have the same versions of pretty much everything
20:27
If you're using a thin chroot with a unity session, make sure you specify 2d or gnome-fallback
20:28
<lifeboy>
The line after that is: block nbd9: NBD_DISCONNECT. Is that also normal?
20:47
<alkisg>
Yes, it's checking for a newer image
20:52gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Remote host closed the connection)
20:54gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
20:59gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
21:08gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
21:08gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
21:12lns has left IRC (lns!~lns@pdpc/supporter/professional/lns, Quit: Leaving)
21:12alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.)
21:15lns has joined IRC (lns!~lns@173-16-199-235.client.mchsi.com)
21:15lns has joined IRC (lns!~lns@pdpc/supporter/professional/lns)
21:17jammcq has left IRC (jammcq!~jam@c-69-245-75-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net, Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7)
21:21PhoenixSTF has joined IRC (PhoenixSTF!~rudi@78.29.159.239)
21:51gbaman_ has joined IRC (gbaman_!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
21:54gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
22:03andygraybeal has joined IRC (andygraybeal!~andy@h154.209.22.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)
22:16JesseC has joined IRC (JesseC!~Chumba@wsip-98-175-20-126.br.br.cox.net)
22:16JesseC has joined IRC (JesseC!~Chumba@wsip-98-175-20-126.br.br.cox.net)
22:27vagrantc has left IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@freegeek/vagrantc, Quit: leaving)
22:45gbaman_ has left IRC (gbaman_!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Remote host closed the connection)
22:46gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
22:52gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
23:16gbaman has joined IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
23:21gbaman has left IRC (gbaman!~gbaman@host81-130-75-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com, Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
23:51nocturn has left IRC (nocturn!~nocturn@unaffiliated/nocturn, Read error: Operation timed out)
23:54nocturn has joined IRC (nocturn!~nocturn@unaffiliated/nocturn)