IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 16 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<dan__t>
vinny_, which video card does that machine have/
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?
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exact make/model
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<vinny_>
I have an ATI Radeon 7000-m (I'm pretty sure). I think I have it figured out though. Just need to reboot to make sure...
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<dan__t>
What was it/
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?
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<vinny_>
I don't know. I rm'd my lts.conf, used ltspcfg to generate and new one and now things are (seemingly) working.
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Now I'm just trying to get the resolution configured. X_MODE_0 doesn't seem to like me.
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<dan__t>
You know, I had a few problems with it, as well.
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<vinny_>
Got another baby step done, got the montior working at 1280x1024. Is it possible to specify multiple resolutions?
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<dan__t>
Yes, via X_MODE_{0,1,2}
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<vinny_>
When use X_MODE_1 and X_MODE_2, I can't get into 1280x1024 (X_MODE_0)
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I guess I can live with being "stuck" at a higher resolution...
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Thanks dan, looks like the XServer is working well now.
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<SkeptiC>
hallo all
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a have some problem with my ltsp
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any one can help me..?
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<kaos01>
anyone got bluetooth going on LTSP cleint ?
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<Sharmanshik>
may be kernel witn bluetooth support for client <kaos01> anyone got bluetooth going on LTSP cleint ?
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<nsar>
hello
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is it available for download ltsp version 5?
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<sumpfdotterblume>
hello
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Can i deavtive sound in the kernel from the Server? I want to use Sound on the clients
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<ogra_>
use your lts.conf and set SOUND=True
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<sumpfdotterblume>
ok, but in the kernel musn'T
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<ogra_>
nope
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ltsp should care if the variable is set
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<sumpfdotterblume>
ok thx
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<envite>
Hello all from Spain
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Hola a todos desde España
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<cliebow_>
envite:Hola
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<envite>
Hola cliebow_
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I've been thinking on the hard disk booting affaire that's on the list
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've you readed it?
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<jammcq>
howdie friends
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<sumpfdotterblume>
hi
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i serach the code from ltsp-server-pkg
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<ogra_>
ubuntu or debian ?
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https://launchpad.net/~ogra/+branch/ltsp/feisty-ltsp is the most recent development branch
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<sumpfdotterblume>
gentoo and a sparc64 :-D
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<ogra_>
https://launchpad.net/~ogra/+branch/ltsp/ltsp-mainline is the upustream branch (merged from debian and ubuntu development)
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dunno where gentoo development takes place, they didnt commit anything to the upstream source yet
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<sumpfdotterblume>
is there a download link?
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<ogra_>
you need to use bzr
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or pull the sourcfe package from archive.ubuntu.com
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<sumpfdotterblume>
ok thx
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<ogra_>
does gentoo already have an ltsp-server package ?
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(did dberkholz already package something ?)
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if so it would be nice to merge the code into the upstream branch ...
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<sumpfdotterblume>
Can you say me wath i must do with ltspswapd-startscript? must init it load?
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<ogra>
we dont use ltspswapd in ltsp5 anymore ... so no, i could only tell you something about integrated nbd swapping in ltsp5 :)
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<sumpfdotterblume>
:-(
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wath's better ltsp-4.2 or 5?
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<ogra>
that depends on your distro :)
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with ubuntu and debian use 5
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with all others you woint be able to use 5 ... unless you implement it yourself
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<bricode>
ogra: is there any special magic in the fat client image that gets created? ie: if I just copy an entire directory structure of an exisiting install, will it work?
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<sumpfdotterblume>
mh so, ive installed all
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<sumpfdotterblume>
I can't good speak english, and i don't now, what i must do:Modify to suit your servers startup model.
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<sumpfdotterblume>
by the startupsktip-ltspswapd
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<mtnbkr>
Can someone offer a HOW-to, URL or comments on this: I have an LTSP system with some P-III clients that properly boot via PXE. However the P-II clients tftp the kernel and then stop at the "Ok, booting the kernel" message. keyboard dead, end of show. Has the current LTSP 4.2 default kernel been configured to explicitly support P-III of better?
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<irule>
what does AFAIK mean?
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<mtnbkr>
As far as I Know
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Everything I am reading (google, LTSP etc) seems to indicate otherwise, and that a P-II should be perfect client. Perhaps it is a memory (low memory) issue on the P-II?
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<efra>
join #php-es
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Sorry, forgot the "/"
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<mtnbkr>
Ok, then... next question... where can I get the .config file that the default LTSP-4.2 kernel is using so I might start from a known point? :)
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from the shell on the client there doesnot seem to ba a /proc/config.gz file to work from ...
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Oh wait... there it is! nevermind
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<cstextile1>
Is there any way to get the workstation id or no like ws001 from the LTSP client so that i can use in the shell script for some custom operation?
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Is there any way to get the workstation id or no like ws001 from the LTSP client so that i can use in the shell script for some custom operation in Edubuntu?
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<mathesis>
hi ogra
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<nofxx>
afternoon ! ! xD i'm plannin a simple admin here, with what I can do (php) ... can I get the username, date/time logged in? what command?
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idea is to parse the string.... then control with mysql.... cron it to run all day... dunno...
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<nofxx>
shell command or a text file ltsp keeps this data?
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<mtnbkr>
last
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w and who show current users logged into LTSP system
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heh or any *nix system for that matter. :)
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<nofxx>
mtnbkr: nope.. it dosent....
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at least on edubuntu....
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only if the user opens a terminal..
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hmm "last" .. let me try this
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<nofxx>
nope... just logins on the server
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<mtnbkr>
nofxx: I must have misunderstood your question. What are you looking for?
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cstextile1: take a look at the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/screen.d/startx script for some ideas.
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<nofxx>
mtnbkr: its a lan house, so I need to manage how much time a customer uses the terminals... so, if there is some shell command I can run that gives me the username and the time logged in, i do the math on php and store it in db...
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<mtnbkr>
oh the "time logged in" not "the time the user logged in" I see now... But the default last field in the last output already gives you this information, no?
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<nofxx>
mtnbkr: nope... w,who,last . dont show users on gnome, lets say... just if a user opens a terminal
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<mtnbkr>
UG! Oh yea... I vaguely remember an issue now with last and graphical logins. I am pretty sure that I was able to come up with a working work around... but I have NO idea since that was a long time ago - and the client never endedup needing that solution in the end. Oh wait... I think since I was automounting user's home directories (on another server via NFS) I was able to parse that info from the other server's logs... That sounds fa
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miliar. Bu that only got us logon times, not "amount of time logged in" so I don;t think that will help you. Sorry. :(
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<cliebow_>
nofxx:ping
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<mathesis>
hi irule
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onde te metes irule
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<dberkholz>
hi
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<mistik1>
hey
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<dberkholz>
ogra: ogra_: yes, i haven't yet spent the time learning how to use bzr beyond getting a checkout
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ogra: ogra_: all that's actually packaged so far is basic stuff like lsb-release, none of the ltsp stuff.
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ogra: ogra_: unless you count a halfway done package of ltspfs that isn't in the main repo yet
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<mistik1>
Its seems lately there is a new revision system for project
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<irule>
aqui ando
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que hay?
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<mistik1>
hola
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: may I pm you?
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<irule>
si
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: sure, if you want.
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: phone bbiaf
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<mathesis>
check the links
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http://www.bairesnortelug.com.ar/2006/11/18/sistemas-multiseat-el-monstruo-de-varias-cabezas/
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<Shingoshi>
ogra_: Can I build two different archs at once? Or do I even need to? One (x86_64) for the server, and one for the 32bit terminals?
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Or does it only apply to the kernels?
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ogra_: ^^
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<jammcq>
howdie all
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
hi jammcq
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
<jammcq> CaPRiCorN^80: show us the line from your /etc/hosts file
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jammcq: i discuessd my usb mounting problem
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<jammcq>
ok
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
i m not in office . but i did mail to sbalneav my /etc/hosts
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
my setting was some thing like this wat i remember
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cat /etc/hosts | grep ws117 : 192.168.0.117 ltsp.ws117 ws117
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
i did remove ltsp and after that it looks like this 192.168.0.117 ws117
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but still there are some problem with usb
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i put on kingston usb on my thin client but i didnt show it
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wat u say ?
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jammcq: u there ?
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<jammcq>
yep
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i dunno what's wrong with your system
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you'll need to run through the 12-point troubleshooting list again
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
hmmm
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
i did that
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i did mail these 12-points and there output to sbalneav
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from that mail our discussion started other day . when u joined us
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he said that i have problem in step 4 and 10 coz of this hostname and echo $DISPLAY
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<jammcq>
CaPRiCorN^800: ok, did you re-run step 4 and 10, to see if the $DISPLAY problem has been resolved ?
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
yes
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<jammcq>
has it been resolved?
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
yes
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<jammcq>
so, EVERYTHING on the troubleshooting list comes up correct ?
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
yes
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<CaPRiCorN^800>
any suggestion ?
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jammcq:
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jammcq: ?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hey
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intalling ltsp 5
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E: Failed getting release file http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release
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ah right proxy
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uf
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uhm i fix proxy
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continues with troubles
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E: Failed getting release file http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release
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<mathesis>
where is documetation lts.conf fot ltsp5
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<jmalone68>
I have a problem with LTSP using KDM window manager
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I have KDM working just fine on my Ubuntu 6.10 box, but the clients are presented with GDM when they boot
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What I REALLY want to do is have auto login happening with a specific user per thin client. KDM seems to allow this simply if I can get it to load!
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<mathesis>
i am not conf client fot 1024x768 in ltsp5
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<jmalone68>
Hello All, I've got a problem with the KDM windows manager
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It isn't used by the Client computers
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<jmalone68>
Anyone out there?
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<cliebow>
so you want to use kdm as the dm?
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<jmalone68>
That's correct, cliebow
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<cliebow>
tis is fc6 or something?
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<jmalone68>
I've got kdm running on the server fine
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I'm using Ubuntu
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<cliebow>
ltsp5 uses a local display manager which is ldm
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<jmalone68>
But when the client boots up it uses gdm
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What I REALLY want to do is have an auto login which is specific for each client computer, identified by IP or hostname or something... KDM seemed to allow that
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<cliebow>
i am not that familiar with it..but if you are using ubuntu;s ltsp you have what looks like gdm
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<jmalone68>
Correct.
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<cliebow>
you'll need to talk to ogra toget the eal poop..it is under active development...for sure
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<jmalone68>
Any ideas on the individual auto login per machine?
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<cliebow>
i havnt used it enough to help...
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<jmalone68>
Hey, thanks for chatting though.... I appreciate the effort.
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<cliebow>
ogra is in Germany so he is like 8 hours off east coast
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ogra Seems to havge just joined 3edubuntu
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<jmalone68>
Hmmm 1:45am in Germany at the moment... what are the odds?
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What is 3edubuntu?
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Ahhh #deubuntu - I get it!
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<petre>
jammcq: ping
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<jammcq>
petre: hey
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<petre>
any idea why my ltsp 4.2 box is seeing usb ports on a p133 client that has no usb ports?
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k12ltsp 5
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<jammcq>
umm, no clue
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<petre>
I've been using this client with another k12 5 server for the past week, testing pci sound cards
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which work with Gadi's patch
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but ISA cards fail
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<jammcq>
isa cards can't be auto-detected
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<petre>
so I figured I'd plug it into my 'production' server which doesn't have the patch to see if it behaves differetnlyt
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right, but right now there's no sound card in it
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it boots to a command prompt 'cause I set screen_0 to that
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but lsmod for example showd usbcore, usbkbd
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but there's no usb on this client
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and it wasn't acting like this with the other k12 5 server
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<jammcq>
no clue dude
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<petre>
really weird
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<jammcq>
what does lspci show?
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<petre>
doesn't show any usb
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I guess I'll try specifying a PS2 mouse
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how bizarre
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<vagrantc>
ogra_: did you plan on syncing with debian before or after feisty?
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<nick125_lappy>
hiya everyone