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anyone know how to send text messages to another user using ltsp terminal?
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or echo > /dev/tty of your choice
moquist: ill post them on the wiki in win integration
has anyone had any experience with the compaq/HP evo t20 thin clients with LTSP? do they work?
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patrickb: do they do pxe?
I just bought a new WD SATAII 320GB Enterprise disk and it is running so hot you can't touch it... what do you think?
that doesn't seem right Faithful.....
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Anyone here happen to have IPcop as the DHCP server, Debian as the LTSP client, and have PXE boot working? I can't seem to get PXE boot to work
genteen: i have not used IPCop as a DHCP server...so i do not know how configurable it is...but i do have a DHCP server seperate from my LTSP server
16:03 < patrickb> wrong window
gentgeen:_ ipcop will let you pass a filename option?
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cliebow, yes it does
I see the client start up, gets getway info, then I see
TFTP. . .
how about next-server option?
but nothing... then it just boots from the internal HD
yep, got that in the config also
ubuntu or other?..just wonder what is assumed as part of the path to pxelinux
I have 3 other clients that all have /tftpboot/lts/126.96.36.199-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0 in the filename area... the clients use a harddrive boot (via wizzy toms root boot disk)
Debian Testing system
all clients have the /tftpboot/lts/188.8.131.52-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0 as filename -- 192.168.74.3:/opt/ltsp/i386 as root path -- 192.168.74.3 as next-server
I am thinking I don't have PXE boot set up on the server correctly, but everything I look at says I do have it right
jammcq had me manually use tftp to check that piece..i dont remember just how i did that now
tftp , connect (localhost), get path/filename ?
OK, I did "tftp connect localhost" and I have a tftp> prompt....
Yep, you have to insert command separately
That's why i put commas and stuff.
tftp (enter) connect(enter) host_of_tftp (enter) get path/filename (like 184.108.40.206-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0)
That was the way the ubuntu tftp worked.
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OK, that worked
I was able to get a file from within the /tftpboot/
so I can assume that TFTP (and therefore PXE) is set up right?
It depends ofcourse what is the root directory of the tftp-daemon.
should I remove it from the dhcp path?
/tftpboot/ is the root directory
sorry, the second line did not go through originally :-)
gentgeen_:you should see \how tftp is initiated...what -s parameter given tftpboot to start looking for info
#Defaults for tftpd-hpa
OPTIONS="-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot"
with /var/lib/tftpboot being a simlink to /tftboot
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UGH... I added -vv to the /etc/default/tftpd-hpa OPTIONS ... Thinking I would atleast get some output, but don't see anything
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questions, on my TC I can connect to my server (which is running the most recent K12ltsp) via a crossover cable perfectly. I plug it into a typical plug and play Switch, and it gets a DHCP address, starts to boot, then after the mouse drive line I get...
Error! dhcpcd failed! <new line> Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
now I am tailing with -f /var/log/messages
and I see nothing about it, other then it gave the bootdhcp command, nothing about a failure
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so I plugged the crossover back into the client direct to the server and it boots fine...no clue why a switch is failing, when its gets a DHCP address fine
could the server nic be broken, and a crossover makes it work, cause I tried the crossover into the switch (its auto-sensing/adjusting) and I got a link light with it and a standard cable. same error regardless
I know this switch is a good switch it was used a replacement switch when we have a v-laned switch die, we tossed this P&P switch in with a crossover and it got our users back online with touching its configurations from dell.
Hello, I'm having problems with latin american keyboards I cannot get the characthers with the combination of: ALT Gr+ <any key>, any clue?
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What happened to the main ltsp site. It looks like it redirects over to the wiki now when loading http://www.ltsp.org
That's not a bad thing.
Does anyone know if you can run ltsp over the internet, not on a lan etc.
Just different and unexpected.
antoniog: I'd use something like Nomachine.com for over the Internet work.
antoniog: They do protocol compression that makes very efficient use of bandwidth.
It's all encapsulated in ssl too.
Well I was thinking of an idea where I would rent people in the same city thin clients, so with broadband it'd be ok
i just wondered does the architecture support non lan
sorry about the underline
would a thin client capable of nomachine require more than ltsp client?
LTSP over the Internet... Not really. Protocols like DHCP and NFS are too transparent to be used securely. Give them a bootable KNOPPIX disk with the NoMachine client on it and have them connect to your server. NoMachine is the way to go for that sort of venture. (antoniog)
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jammcq & sbalneav: is anyone going to write up a summary of what you guys did at your codefest for us spectators?
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pscheie: I think so
We could post something to -discuss, or the like.
pscheie: most of what we did over the weekend was clean up the website. expect to see that get launched "real soon now"
which part, the older part or the wiki?
Personally, I like the look of the wiki but it's sometimes harder to find things
the look won't change so much
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just the organization of the content
witness the bit about the NFS block size problem you helped me with last week
and how I was looking at one page on the wiki and you were looking at another
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pscheie: most of what we did was gorge ourselves on prime rib..chicken in bacon lamb sirloin
and we earned it
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cliebow: earned how? Washing dishes afterward? ;-)
Gadi: I'm still trying to understand why your sound package works on my Dell laptops.
Is OSS 'old' and ALSA 'new', and your esd just bridges that somehow?
And do Pulse and gstreamer make that all immaterial once apps start using them?
gadi says it works, cuz of the "mojo"
pscheie: basically, it comes down to this:
esd can be compiled for OSS or ALSA but not both
LTSP ships esd compiled for OSS
so, it only works with OSS drivers or OSS-emulation for ALSA drivers
my package has esd compiled against ALSA
so, it only works with the ALSA drivers
jammcq: what was the file you had me look in where we found the module for my maestro3 chip was called snd-maestro3 instead of just maestro3?
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pscheie: all ALSA sound modules have a "snd-" prefix
OSS ones have no prefix
pscheie: that would have been audiolist
Right; but there was some command that Jim had me run that showed it was trying to load a driver named maestro3, which explained why it was failing
but I can't remember the command, and I want to add it to my notes for future reference.
oh, on the client, you need to run something like:
not pci-scan /etc/audiolist?
umm, yeah, that's it
that's exactly it
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thats one way to clear a room ;)
man, this beryl stuff slows down my interface
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its a composition manager
basically, it makes your desktop do funky eye-candy things
like rotate as a cube
or animate windows
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what, if anything, would getltscfg /etc/audiolist show?
nothing at all
it would return an error
If ltsp supplied an esd binary for oss and alsa, would it try both or would you have to specify?
I think we'd have to pick one as the default, and allow the sysadmin to specify the other
This may be a really dumb question, but why doesn't esd work under kde?
it does, but you have to tell kde to use it
kde use[sd] artsd
and you could tell arts to use esd
but kde is moving to phonon (which is similar to gstreamer)
so, you would then tell phonon to use it
... unless we beat all of these changes to the punch, and incorporate pulseaudio and alsa redirection
I thought the point of gstreamer was to not need esd (?)
in which case, no modification would be necesasry to 99% of the apps on the server
no, the point of gstreamer is to provide middleware to the audio stack
so, apps talk to gstreamer
and gstreamer decides what mechanism to use to play the sound
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But that requires all the apps to be gstreamer- or phonon- aware, right?
but many have gone that way
if we wind up doing alsa redirection, we should obviate that need as well
I'm thinking about how Real Player 8 works on clients, but later versions don't
and the *only* remaining apps that would break, would be ones that talk directly to /dev/dsp
RP8 has esd support
RP10 does not AFAIK
RP10 only has ALSA support
so with your esd-with-alsa, should RP10 work?
the esd-with-alsa still uses esd
it just uses alsa on the client
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basically, alsa/oss are on the level of talking to the soundcard
esd/nasd are on the level of transporting the sound
gstreamer/phonon are middleware
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welcome to the mess that is sound in Linux
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but, dont fret
things are working themselves out....
well, that partially explains why I have a hard time getting my head around it all ;-)
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moquist, so ? anything i missed in the e-a-s spec ?
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Hi, I have latin american keyboards, but I cant use the characters that appears with AltGr+<Key>, like @, why?
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moquist:didyou get what you needed??
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nevermind I solved it....:(
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how are you doing laprag ?
I am doing just fine
Just bought a micro rc helicopter, playing with it :)
These guys at Google are awfully quiet
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that nick reminds me a lot of laphroaig
heh, I don't taste all that good ;)
laprag: what do you mean the guys at google are awful quiet?
The Ubuntu Developer Conference is at Google Campus, jammcq and friends are there
How's it going?
You done your talk yet?
All of our current specs have passed review, so now we're good for a whole new slate tomorrow!
No, they haven't asked me to speak yet.
that's very cool
edbuntu-network-auth-[server|client], both passed
sbalneav: are you at google?
although, it basically just entails fixing pam_mkhomedir brokenness
sbalneav: But that's just the spec, not the actual work, right?
But once you have the spec, the we can do the work, and the feature will be included in feisty.
ooooh, the charger is done, gotta go flying :))
So that's a good thing.
Heading home? Safe trip!
Any takers for the coding, or ogra doing it all?
Matt will be helping with the ldap stuff, I'll be helping with other stuff.
sbalneav: nono, just in the hotel room, got myself a litte toy
laprag: you're in CA too?
rjune: No, in TX
laprag: cool deal.;
jammcq: Good afternoon to you too
it's been very productive.
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laprag: sorry I missed you
I hope you get to come to more of these things
how are you doing Gadi ?
good. gettin by with a lil help from my friends....
et tu, brute?
work, work, work
me file brute
all work and no play...
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