IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 7 March 2011   (all times are UTC)

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00:38
<gnunux>
hi
00:40
<muppis>
hi
00:42
<alkisg>
Good morning #ltsp :)
00:56
<Appiah>
morning
01:02
<vagrantc>
and good night
01:04
<muppis>
http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html ;)
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05:13
<nothingman>
hi, all
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07:29
<andygraybeal>
greetings, i wonder what it would take to have all my users use keys instead of passwords in ltsp environment. can i hand out USB jumpdrives with ssh keys on them?
07:30
or is there a better way?
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11:48
<billybobby>
morning everyone, i have installed an ltsp-server-standalone, and built a client environment, but the graphical manager still wont load?
11:49
<alkisg>
What graphical manager? tcm?
11:50
<billybobby>
ltsp-manager ?
11:51
<alkisg>
It's unmaintained
11:51
<billybobby>
so what do i need to do to get my terminal server working?
11:52
<alkisg>
It should be working after you built a client environment
11:52
No need to a graphical manager for that
11:52
What do you get if you try to boot a client?
11:54
<billybobby>
i "rdesktop" it and it just is a remote desktop connection
11:55
<alkisg>
I don't understand your problem
11:57
<billybobby>
it doesn't seem to be a terminal server, just a machine that refuses to shut down unless i use the command line by the way; and when i do launch the manager, it brings up a dialogue box saying "please select LTSP environment" and there's nothing in the dialogue box at all, so i guess there's something wrong
11:58
<alkisg>
OK, let's start again
11:58
1) Forget the ltsp manager. Don't run it again. Uninstall it.
11:58
<billybobby>
OK, gimmie a second
11:58
<alkisg>
2) Try to boot a thin client from your LTSP server. Does it boot?
11:59
Btw, here are the basic steps you need to do to install an ltsp server: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
11:59
<billybobby>
how do you mean, "rdesktop" it or LAN boot?
12:01
<alkisg>
Lan boot
12:01
That's what LTSP is for
12:01
Also, what program do you use for rdesktop?
12:02
because that's a windows program, you can't (normally) use it to connect to linux servers
12:02
Except if you mean VNC
12:02
<billybobby>
the linux command line interface, i put "rdesktop the-awesome-server"
12:03
<alkisg>
That is used to connect to windows servers
12:03
It won't work for linux servers
12:03
You need to read the docs for LTSP to get an overview about it, see the link at the irc topic above
12:03
<billybobby>
what about the graphical 'terminal server client?'
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<alkisg>
There's no maintained graphical program to manage LTSP in Ubuntu
12:05
If you mean the gnome remote desktop program, again, that's not how you use LTSP
12:05
<billybobby>
so if i LAN boot and plug the client and server into my network, the client will boot off the server just like that?
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<alkisg>
LTSP is for booting from local network
12:06
It's supposed to, yes
12:06
You can use remote desktop (vnc, freenx etc) in linux systems.
12:06
But that's not what LTSP is about
12:06
LTSP is for booting from LAN, and using remote X
12:07
<billybobby>
OK, i don't have a thin client on me at the moment, i'll try it soon, do i have to set up my user accounts, or will the ones on the server be made available automatically?
12:08
<alkisg>
The ones on the server. Do reads the docs so that you understand how it works a bit.
12:09
<billybobby>
right, i'll read them now, i suppose i should have done that first, eh? instead of muddling my way through it?
12:09
<alkisg>
Yup, and that page I linked above is a good start on how to get a system going in a few steps
12:11
<billybobby>
yes, i actually read that one! problem was i already had the Ubuntu system installed, and it's not a dedicated server either, i want to keep using it and access it remotely too.
12:11
<alkisg>
OK
12:17
<billybobby>
i have a winodws CE based thin client here, will that boot through the LTSP server?
12:18
i mean work through it?
12:18
<alkisg>
Is it x86?
12:18
Anyway you can just try it
12:19
<billybobby>
i don't know, it only has a 700mhz processor
12:19
128m of ram
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<alkisg>
It needs to be the same architecture as the chroot you've built
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<billybobby>
well, i don't think it's x64, so it must be, i'm fairly sure i built a 32bit chroot, because my server's 32bit, and i didn't tell it x64
12:23
<vagrantc>
if you can configure the thin client to PXE boot, it will probably work with LTSP
12:23
weather it works well or not is another question
12:23
<nothingman>
hi, all
12:24
<vagrantc>
and only testing will reveal that
12:24
<nothingman>
last week I was attempting to have android-x86 boot from a thin client
12:27
has anyone here ever tried that?
12:28
there's three image files on the iso, and I'm not sure if I'm going about it right
12:33
<billybobby>
how can i configure my server as a dhcp server?
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12:50
<NeonLicht>
What distribution?
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12:57
<nothingman>
would it be easy enough to extract the squashfs file and run ltsp-update-image on that chroot?
12:58
<alkisg>
It worked for me
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<Dutch_Master>
Hello
13:12
Quick question if I may.
13:12
I need to install a touch-screen driver (Quanta-touch) but where do I install it?
13:13
in the client chroot, on the server or both?
13:15
<nothingman>
Dutch_Master: in the chroot, if you need to use it on a client
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13:15
<nothingman>
on the server only if you want to use it on the local terminal
13:15
<Dutch_Master>
OK, thanks. Did try it, but that didn't work
13:15
perhaps I forgot to rebuild the image
13:15
<nothingman>
well, you may need to edit some configuration file within the chroot
13:16
or else, yes, rebuild it
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<Dutch_Master>
I think I may start again from scratch, as the driver has some issues
13:16
<nothingman>
editing the configuration file should essentially be the same as editing the local copy for the same program if it were installed on the server itself
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<Dutch_Master>
Yes, that makes sense. After all, the whole setup of LTSP is to have a client remotely run a session on the server, isn't it?
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<nothingman>
yes, although there's also an easy way to make a "fat client" image which runs on the client hardware
13:22
there seems to be a lack of distinction for some software as to what the local hardware is considered to be
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<nothingman>
for instance, with thin clients the only software "running" on the client is the X server (desktop) along with a basic linux and necessary tools/configuration
13:26
<Dutch_Master>
The client is one of the thin clients of the LTSP commercial branch.
13:26
only has 512 MB RAM, IIRC
13:27
<nothingman>
well, I've run the fat client image in 256
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with Blender and Mozilla plus compiz
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<Dutch_Master>
Oh dear ;) I won't be that ambitous though ;)
13:28
ambitious even
13:30
The idea is to have a kiosk-like setup, for visitors to browse our website during a show
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to prevent anyone performing some 'geeky' stuff I want the browser to be operated by touch only, no keyboard nor mouse
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<nothingman>
that was all using Nubae's script which is now part of Edubuntu
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<Dutch_Master>
not that there's much to grasp, the setup is stand-alone anyway (no internet connection, the website is on the server as well)
13:33
I'm using Debian (64 bit host, 32 bit client) so would that script work there too?
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<nothingman>
well, it was built with ltsp in mind, so it should be fairly cross-distro
13:35
the chroot would end up being Ubuntu-based, but other than that it should work
13:35
<Dutch_Master>
OK, thanks once more ;-)
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<alkisg>
nothingman: Nubae's script isn't part of edubuntu, it's a different fat client implementation
13:41
<nothingman>
I just meant that it was now included with edubuntu
13:41
<alkisg>
It isn't
13:41
<nothingman>
it sure is; I ran it on a base edubuntu install just weeks ago
13:41
<alkisg>
A different, separate script is included in edubuntu
13:41
<nothingman>
well, it works the same
13:41
<alkisg>
Which wasn't developed by Nubae
13:41
<Dutch_Master>
Oh, ok. Would it be recommended, seeing (elsewhere) it's not (officially) supported?
13:41
<nothingman>
afaict
13:42
I apologize for being misinformed
13:42
I honestly thought it was one and the same
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<alkisg>
Dutch_Master: Nubae's implementation isn't officially supported, but the edubuntu implementation of fat clients is supported
13:43
<Dutch_Master>
Both my host and client are Debian. I suppose it'll work, but I fail to see the benefits for my situation
13:43
<alkisg>
Dutch_Master: the kiosk mode is something like a fat client implementation
13:44
So the kiosk mode should suit you fine if you want nothing more than a browser
13:44
<Dutch_Master>
Ah? I didn't realise that?
13:44
<alkisg>
It runs firefox locally
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<Dutch_Master>
Which is exactly what I want. Did get the part about the touch-screen I've talked about earlier?
13:45
Did you get.... (etc)
13:46
<alkisg>
Well if you get it working with a debian usb installation, you should be able to get it working in a chroot too
13:46
Get the necessary steps for a normal installation first, and ask for any ltsp-specifics later
13:49
<Dutch_Master>
So I should connect the screen to the server first, have it working there, then do it again in the chroot?
13:50
(I tried that, but failed so far. Probably user error, failing to rebuild the image)
13:50
(can't remember doing that...)
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<hiex>
hi
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<Dutch_Master>
hi
14:23
<hiex>
is this place for linux z/OS development?
14:23
<Dutch_Master>
I don't think so
14:24
but then, I'm not a developer...
14:24
<hiex>
oh ok
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<hiex>
guess it isnt
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<Dutch_Master>
shamino is really on a revolving door connection ;-)
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<alkisg>
(10:49:49 PM) Dutch_Master: So I should connect the screen to the server first, have it working there, then do it again in the chroot? ==> No I just mean to find out how to get the screen working
15:21
E.g. you can also try to boot the client with debian on a usb stick
15:27
<Dutch_Master>
Oh, you mean that way!
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(sorry, was absent for a while)
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16:31
<Dutch_Master>
I'm off, thanks for the help so far!
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<abeehc>
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<dude575>
i install ltsp server but it doesnt seem to be work
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help please
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<dks123>
Hello all
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Has anyone tried LTSP 5.x on CentOS 5 or above versions?
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<dks123>
Is there any source for LTSP5.x available?I need to install it on CentOS 5.
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<no_mind>
my ltsp clients are running very slow. but speed on server is fine... how do I find the cause of slowness ?
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<dks123>
Hello all
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00:00--- Tue Mar 8 2011