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||cw: the package is gone and I have yet to get unlazy enough to re-create it
I really need to because I myself need it but I have more pressing issues...
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Hi, I'm looking for help|tips setting up clients with differing locale needs (ar_SY, Farsi, Dari, Pashto) in addition to German.
individual machines configured with different locales?
or all clients supporting all locales?
I want to set up "throw-away" clients for a kind of "international coffee shop" as a service for this countries influx of refugees
throw-away in what sense? reset at login/reboot ?
If they want to save stuff between sessions, I'd suggest using a USB-stick
how much ram do the clients have?
I'm undecided on whether to individualise the users to include a locale ... ar_sy_nr1@box12
I don't know what "mix" of locale's we need to support at any 1 time.
ram: probably 1GB
have you set up LTSP networks before?
I've been doing debian since bruce perens was DPL ... but I'm new to locale & keyboards I don't know & menues I can't read :-)
i've got a setup that creates a fresh homedir in tmpfs on login using libpam-mount with fatclients using lightdm
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OK - that sounds like what I'm looking for if I can configure it to use a specific locale for a specific session (in some form choosable)
there are keyboard selection options from within gnome and gnome-flashback, i think ... and you can typically set the locale on login
true - but I'm not sure of the skill-levels needed to do this ... most people here have only had experiance with various win systems specifically set up for their countrioes
i'm also a bit inexperienced with locales, given that the C locale generally worsk for me ... but i strive to get a rough idea how locales work
they would be new to linux & selecting locale & keyboard & $LANG at startup
basically it's a button with a drop-down selection
That's why I started looking at LTSP ... get it right once & reboot as needed :-)
you could also set it up such that there's a different default locale from lts.conf, with some custom hooks
so if there was a particular day where a particular locale was preferred, you could make it the default on a daily basis from one place
no - it's more like a travelling coffee shop (lan party in a truck) and would need to cope with whatever nationalities I find at that location & day
there are plenty of hooks to implement all this ... if you have a good idea which locales to enable, then you'll want to enable them in the image, but if you're not sure you could install locales-all ... though that might make language selection drop-downs unusable
I only need around 5 or 6 variants as far as I can see
lots of options, mostly a matter of picking a few, experimenting a bit with the LTSP hooks till you get what you want
but I'll need some from the people themselves so as not to tread on toes through my own ignorance of their cultures & norms
definitely a good idea.
yeah - but a lot of work to get it right :-)
first, i'd get the LTSP parts working in your preferred language ... then work on adding the mutliple locale support you want
I could do "fat clients" in 2 or 3 locales but I want to be able to keep the configs but destroy what ever traces they've left on the boxes when they sign off.
would you differentiate based on username+logon or at PXE-boot-time ?
well, changing the keyboard layout without changing the actualy keyboard might be more confusing to inexperience computer users...
i would think choosing at login is going to work ... configuring user-specific locales with throwaway homedirs might be tricky ...
true - but I've had some experiance with changing between de_DE and Ukrainian for a person I support here,
with a throwaway homedir?
and we found it OK IF there is a printed "keymap" available.
I haven't doen the throwaway homedir thing yet ... I'm assuming that it might be something via NFS
well, you can't throw the homedir away and save user-specific settings ... without getting very cumbersome :P
|15:44||* vagrantc would just recommend using libpam-mount with tmpfs for homedir|
I don't have any keyboards in all these variants of arabic | persian and wouldn't be able to tell which was which without sticky-tape-labels :-(
I wasn't sure if /etc/skel and adduser was going to help me any ... or if keeping state gets in my way ---
The last time I used debian autoconf as a provisioning tool it took me about 3 reboots to get the boxes set up with their payload & up & running ... but that was a while ago
but then ... it was a real SYSV init, which is something I understand :-)
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yea - pxe boot & install & answer all the dpkg questions per script .. it's been a while .. I've forgotten the terminology
ah, debconf preseeding
well, nice thing about LTSP is you only have to install one machine for N clients :)
They were headless network-monitoring stations deplöoyed through out the corporate-net & we just shipped them & they phoned home & said "I've just arrived at XYZ & pls give me an assignment :-)"
That was easier that trying to get libreoffice & debian menues to work correctly with a keyboard I can't read
I'll go & read some about libpam-mount with tmpfs for homedir ... there are several rough edges in what I'm asking for & I think I need to simplify it quite a bit before I come asking again ...
I's beginning to look like one image pro (nationality|locale) & sort them out at boot-time
Thank you very much for your time & skill ... you've given me some good ideas to think about.
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