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Channel log from 5 May 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:50 | <Guest22382> quiero saber por que el cliente no inicia, el cliente tiene 128 ram dim, procesador intel celeron,
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| 07:23 | <alkisg> talntid: no, only once
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| 15:44 | <lbssousa> Resouces linked in http://lubuntu.me/tip-actions/ aren't available anymore (Copy cloud storage service is dead).
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| 15:44 | Sorry, wrong channel.
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| 16:24 | <Darkend> hy community!!!
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| 16:28 | Today I have a new problem with my server debian ltsp. When i insert a device does not allow me to remove it. He tells me that the device is not in fstab and also'm not root. Any idea what I should do?
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| 16:48 | this is in the clients
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| 17:56 | <Darkend> my users can not unmount USB devices in the clients. what can i do?
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| 17:56 | <vagrantc> Darkend: asking a question in a public channel gives other people the opportunity to respond and for other people to benefit from the answer :)
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| 17:57 | Darkend: if they're using ltspfs, there's no need to manually unmount them, you can just unplug them after 2 seconds of inactivity.
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| 17:59 | <Darkend> how I can tell if I'm using ltspfs?
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| 18:00 | i try this: root@sCL06:/home/darken# chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg -l ltspfsd|grep ^ii
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| 18:00 | <vagrantc> mount | grep ltspfs
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| 18:00 | <Darkend> and this is the answer: ii ltspfsd
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| 18:00 | <vagrantc> that tells you ltspfsd is installed on the client.
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| 18:01 | if you didn't do any manual configuration of mounts, it's almost certainly using ltspfs.
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| 18:01 | unless you're not using LTSP :)
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| 18:02 | <Darkend> I made only two changes in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 18:03 | <vagrantc> well, "mount | grep ltspfs" will tell you if any of the devices you've got mounted are mounted using ltspfs.
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| 18:04 | <Darkend> :O)))
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| 18:04 | i don´t know that
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| 18:05 | <vagrantc> also, "sudo ltsp-chroot dpkg -l ltspfsd" probably requires less typing :)
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| 18:05 | <Darkend> a new knowledge
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| 18:05 | <vagrantc> ripe for the plucking!
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| 18:17 | <Darkend> vagrantc: I try this: umount /media/usr1/usbdisk-sda1
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| 18:18 | this is the system answer: umount: /media/usr1/usbdisk-sda1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
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| 18:18 | <vagrantc> working as expected.
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| 18:18 | there's no need to unmount it from the server, ltspfs automounts the actual media on an as-needed basis
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| 18:18 | the server mount is virtual.
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| 18:19 | <Darkend> or is this normal?
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| 18:19 | <vagrantc> it's normal that ltspfs mounts cannot be manually unmounted.
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| 18:20 | or, at the very least, shouldn't be manually unmounted.
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| 18:20 | <Darkend> then, how I can make my users disassemble asus usb at will without root privileges?
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| 18:20 | <vagrantc> disassemble?
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| 18:20 | <Darkend> umount
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| 18:21 | <vagrantc> just remove the usb device after two seconds of inactivity.
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| 18:21 | ltspfs will handle the unmounting.
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| 18:21 | you need to make sure they don't have anything holding the mount open, like a file manager window or something.
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| 18:23 | <Darkend> Se muestra la traducción de deja ver si te entiendo. copio algo del usb a mi diretorio personal y luego de 2 o 3 segundos sin uso lo puedo desmontar sin problemas? es así? Traducir del deja ver si te entendí. copio algo del usb a mi diretorio personal y luego de 2 o 3 segundos sin uso lo puedo desmontar sin problemas? es así? lets see if I understand. I copy something to my personal usb Listing Results and after 2 or 3 seconds wi
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| 18:23 | <vagrantc> creo que si
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| 18:23 | <Darkend> hablas español?
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| 18:24 | <vagrantc> un poquito
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| 18:24 | olvido mucho
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| 18:24 | <Darkend> vaya que bien. no imaginas el trabajo que paso con el inglés. pero si te es más cómodo seguimos en inglés.
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| 18:25 | de todas formas ya entendí el asunto
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| 18:25 | <vagrantc> usualmente, si, ingles es mehor ... a veces alguna persona hablas en otra idiomas :)
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| 18:26 | <Darkend> gracias por la ayuda...thank´s for your help
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| 18:26 | ok bye...for now....
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| 18:26 | <vagrantc> de nada
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| 19:55 | <lbssousa> alkisg: any plans to start providing an official systemd service unit for epoptes-client (alternative to current ifup script)? I really need it for use with systemd-networkd, which doesn't handle ifup scripts..
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| 20:18 | <alkisg> lbssousa: hello
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| 20:18 | First, I'm interested in supporting multiseat in epoptes and ltsp
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| 20:19 | With that in place (which will need systemd/logind etc), I'm sure a systemd service will come along...
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| 20:19 | <alkisg> lbssousa: do you have any how-to's to speed up my learning curve for multiseat?
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| 20:47 | <lbssousa> alkisg: there's an outdated how-to focused on NVIDIA cards with proprietary drivers at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiseatTeam/Instructions
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| 20:48 | But it's also valuable to read the logind reference at https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
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| 20:50 | Side note: systemd's multi-seat-x wrapper no longer exists, since it's not needed anymore for Xorg server 1.16 and later.
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| 20:51 | If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me :-)
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| 20:55 | <alkisg> lbssousa: from what I've read so far, and correct me if i'm wrong, there are 2 completely different ways to do multiseat
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| 20:55 | One is what systemd supports, with one graphics card for each seat
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| 20:55 | And one is xephyr based, and is what you've sent the patches for, in xorg
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| 20:55 | Correct so far?
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| 20:56 | <alkisg> I assume that the xephyr-based one is cheaper in hardware, but also performs worse, e.g. only one of the 2 seats will be able to use hardware acceleration
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| 20:56 | Haha
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| 20:57 | <||cw> wait, xephyr make multiple virual screen on one monitor?
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| 20:57 | <alkisg> Err they're using it with 2 monitors in this case
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| 20:58 | But 1 graphics card
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| 20:58 | <||cw> soudns nice for testing, or maybe for one of the crazy super wide screens, but otherwise, what's its use?
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| 20:58 | <alkisg> Having 6 computers for 12 students, saves a lot in cost
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| 20:59 | <||cw> ah, so it seperates the video card ports, instead of just separating the cards
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| 21:00 | <alkisg> Yes each video output is used for a different student, i.e. a "seat"
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