IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 24 March 2014   (all times are UTC)

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04:16
<gdi2k>
I am using the dnsmasq method of booting LTSP (I have another DHCP server). Since I upgraded the chroot kernel to saucy (needed for newer hardware), the dnsmasq method does not work. I am getting same as this: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-users/2013-11/msg00561.html
04:19
logs show dnmasq-dhcp to be doing what it is supposed to
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07:05
<gdi2k_>
further to my last message - if I boot from a regular DHCP server and it passes on all the boot options to the client, the clients boot. but if I boot using dnsmasq it fails, so dnsmasq must be passing wrong parameters. any ideas?
07:09
<work_alkisg>
It fails and it goes to busybox?
07:09work_alkisg is now known as alkisg
07:10
<gdi2k_>
alkisg, yes correct
07:10
<alkisg>
gdi2k_: at busybox, cat /run/net-eth0.conf
07:10
<gdi2k_>
k
07:10
<alkisg>
See the parameters that ipconfig got from dhcp there
07:10
<gdi2k_>
thanks
07:10
<alkisg>
Try to find out what went wrong
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07:23
<gdi2k_>
alkisg, doesn't seem to exist - no such file of directory
07:23
*or
07:23
<alkisg>
gdi2k_: ls /run/*.conf /tmp/*.conf
07:35
<gdi2k_>
alkisg, http://i.imgur.com/CVF6faW.jpg
07:35
<alkisg>
gdi2k_: aufs?!
07:36
Which distro/version is that?
07:36
<gdi2k_>
12.04
07:36
Ubuntu
07:36
(Xubuntu)
07:36
<alkisg>
Also check /tmp/*.conf
07:36
<gdi2k_>
k
07:36
<alkisg>
You only tried /run there
07:37
Finally, do: cat /proc/cmdline
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07:42
<prem>
hi all
07:46
Hi all , am trying to boot thin client from a Spectra DL-D250S model, the machine is booting up, but it ends with only a compressed half screen
07:47
it is a Intel Atom CPU D2500 @ 1.86 GHZx2 preocessor., do i need to install any specific drivers for this model to work with LTSP or wats the problem
07:48
how to get a full workable screen in this thin client?
07:48
<alkisg>
Try without ltsp first
07:48
<prem>
without LTSP in the sense?
07:48
<alkisg>
Yes, e.g. from a usb stick
07:48
If you discover it's not an ltsp issue, ask at #ubuntu, they'll probably tell you to use a newer kernel :)
07:49
<prem>
hmm alkisg in case if it needs a kernel update., should i update the chroot environment of LTSP server alsow ith the kernel?
07:50
or is it enough to install the new kernel alone?
07:51
<alkisg>
That too is an ubuntu question, not an ltsp one
07:51
They'll probably tell you to update kernel + xorg, depending on your version
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08:09
<gdi2k_>
alkisg, right, issue is clear: root server is set as gateway, not LTSP server. so my gateway is 192.168.1.1, but cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf shows root server as 192.168.1.1 and it should be 192.168.1.11 for ltsp server
08:09
I have IPAPPEND 3 set in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
08:11
<alkisg>
Pastebin your pxelinux.cfg/default
08:11
And the output of `cat /proc/cmdline` of the client
08:12
<gdi2k_>
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7145175/
08:12
cat /proc/cmdline
08:13
hmm, don't have whole output
08:13
sec...
08:13
<alkisg>
...wait, in your dhcpd.conf,
08:13
you don't have next-server=192.168.1.11 ?
08:13
<gdi2k_>
no
08:13
<alkisg>
Are you using proxydhcp or plain dhcp?
08:14
<gdi2k_>
I have a pfsense server providing regular DHCP
08:14
I wanted to be able to select different LTSP servers from clients during boot, so I am using dnsmasq
08:14
<alkisg>
You can do that with a menu, but ok
08:15
So, in your pfsense, do you have next-server=unset?
08:15
So that it's provided by dnsmasq?
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08:16
<gdi2k_>
yes
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08:17
<gdi2k_>
no boot options set by pfsense
08:17
(if I do set them, clients boot fine, but then I can't use menu)
08:17
<alkisg>
What sends 192.168.1.1?
08:17
<gdi2k_>
how can I tell?
08:17
<alkisg>
Check your configs
08:17
<gdi2k_>
that's the pfsense box, so probably that
08:18
<alkisg>
Tell it not to. :)
08:18
<gdi2k_>
heh
08:19
not sure what is sending it - as it's a boot option, it can only be dnsmasq
08:19
<alkisg>
It's a pfsense question, not an ltsp question. I don't know pfsense so I can't help.
08:19
<gdi2k_>
pfsense is not sending boot options
08:19
(if I set it to send boot options, things work fine)
08:19
dnsmasq menu is like this:
08:19
pxe-prompt="Press F8 if last boot failed. Otherwise wait...", 5
08:19
pxe-service=X86PC,"Manually boot from Server 1","/ltsp/i386/pxelinux",192.168.1.11
08:19
<alkisg>
dnsmasq doesn't know 192.168.1.1 if I understood your setup
08:19
So it can't be sending it
08:21
<gdi2k_>
unless dnsmasq is misconfigured... is /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp.conf the only place it could be coming from ?
08:21
<alkisg>
That's a dnsmasq question :)
08:21
No ltsp questions at all today... :D
08:21
OK, it can come from /etc/dnsmasq.conf too
08:22
!ipxe
08:22
<ltsp`>
ipxe: iPXE is the successor to the etherboot/gPXE project, and can be used to netboot clients that don't have a NIC ROM with a PXE stack. To add it to grub, see !grub-ipxe. To add it to the Windows boot loader, see !win32-loader. To download floppy, CD or USB images, visit http://ipxe.org or install the ipxe package.
08:22
<alkisg>
ipxe has a config command which shows you all the values it gets
08:22
ctrl+b; dhcp net0; config
08:23
It might help you in troubleshooting pfsense/dnsmasq...
08:23
`ltsp-config dnsmasq --overwrite` gives you a clean file that you can test your dnsmasq setup with
08:24
<gdi2k_>
ok thanks
08:24
don't understand what changed as the config wasn't touched and everything looks fine there
08:24
worked fine before
08:25
I updated chroot kernel to saucy - could that have had any impact?
08:27
<alkisg>
Not with your dhcp setup. With udev race conditions, maybe, but not with dhcp...
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10:31
<japoepjonge>
hallo?
10:31
Is there someone in here??
10:32
Can someone tell me how to configure an ip range in the lts.conf??
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<gdi2k_>
japoepjonge what do you want to do exactly?
11:54
you want to assign clients certain IPs?
11:55
or you want to assign options to a range of IPs?
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11:57
<gdi2k_>
if you want to assign certain options to a group of clients, use "LIKE" in lts.conf. See http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Configuration at the bottom
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13:21
<needhelp>
hello guys
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13:22
<givehelp>
Hello
13:22
:P
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13:22
<needhelp>
Can someone help me with making a splash screen for my ltsp client
13:22
<alkisg>
It's not different from non-ltsp clients,so ask in your distro channel
13:23
<needhelp>
It is different
13:23
Ltsp uses pxe
13:23
and normal you use grub
13:23
<alkisg>
It's the same initramfs
13:23
Which distro/version?
13:23
<needhelp>
yes I know
13:23
Debian
13:23
version 7 wheezy
13:24
<alkisg>
The debian live cd uses syslinux, you can copy stuff from there
13:24
It's not an ltsp issue... do you need something related to pxe?
13:24
<needhelp>
maybe
13:25* ogra_ wonders how a splash screen would be related to the bootloader at all
13:25
<ogra_>
they usually operate in userspace right after the kernel is up
13:25
<needhelp>
yes I dont know what i have to change
13:25
<alkisg>
Debian shows a logo in grub
13:26
It doesn't use plymouth
13:26
I imagine needhelp wants a logo in pxelinux...
13:26
<ogra_>
well, thats not what i would refer to as splash screen :)
13:26
<alkisg>
Which is the same as in syslinux, i.e. debian live
13:26
<needhelp>
something like that
13:26
<ogra_>
k, so a static pic in the bootloader then
13:26
<needhelp>
i want to hide the bootloader text
13:26
<alkisg>
Yup, it's easy under pxelinux
13:27
It should be easily google-able too
13:27
<ogra_>
doesnt debian use splashy by default ?
13:27
<alkisg>
And there's the #syslinux channel
13:27
<needhelp>
I did that but it didnt work out
13:27
Its the ltsp image
13:27
It only shows the boottext
13:28
<alkisg>
In that case, the bootloader shows the logo
13:28
So you should see the logo before the ltsp initramfs is loaded
13:28
I.e. nothing ltsp-related has ran at that point
13:28
<needhelp>
yes thats what i want
13:29
hmm okay
13:29
But does someone know how that works?
13:30
<alkisg>
Sure
13:30
<needhelp>
What do I have to do than
13:30
<alkisg>
I'm using something like this: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2828.0;attach=1672;image
13:30
Google and ask in #syslinux if you can't find the answer in google
13:30
It's not ltsp-related..
13:30
<needhelp>
wait
13:30
that is not what i want
13:31
I dont want a menu
13:31
<alkisg>
It's a menu with a logo
13:31
You can only have the logo
13:31
<needhelp>
Yes but i dont need that menu
13:31
<alkisg>
Sure
13:31
<ogra_>
just omit tit then
13:31
<needhelp>
wait a second
13:31
let me explain
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13:34
<needhelp>
i need a graphical boot when the thinclient after it has loaded the pxelinux.cnf
13:34
My client is already working now
13:34
<alkisg>
This is ldm: http://jonathancarter.org/files/images/ldm_ltsp.png
13:35
This is syslinux: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/DebianLive.png
13:35
<needhelp>
But it first shows the bootlines and than uses the kiosk
13:35
<alkisg>
You want a syslinux logo that remains after the boot selection
13:35
(i.e. no menu in your case)
13:35
<needhelp>
I dont have to select that
13:36
I just loads the pxelinux conf and than starts up
13:36
<alkisg>
Right, you don't want a menu, you only want the logo, we got that part
13:36
<needhelp>
*it
13:36
yes
13:37
I want a logo until the system is booted
13:37
<alkisg>
Right, I already gave you the answer above.
13:37
<needhelp>
It like booting windows xp
13:37
Which one?
13:37
<alkisg>
Read the logs above ^
13:37
<needhelp>
Its like a loading screen you know
13:37
<alkisg>
Yup, I know
13:38
<needhelp>
You send me some pictures right?
13:38
<alkisg>
(03:24:05 μμ) alkisg: The debian live cd uses syslinux, you can copy stuff from there
13:38
(03:30:40 μμ) alkisg: Google and ask in #syslinux if you can't find the answer in google
13:38
(03:30:30 μμ) alkisg: I'm using something like this: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2828.0;attach=1672;image
13:38
It's not ltsp related, it's syslinux (pxelinux) related
13:38
<needhelp>
yes okay
13:38
<alkisg>
It's a simple menu, no need to ask here in #ltsp
13:38
<needhelp>
Yes i get that
13:38
<alkisg>
*not menu, config file
13:38
You don't want a menu, ok
13:39
<needhelp>
yes thats correct
13:39
only a picture or logo or something
13:39
to hide the boot text
13:39
<alkisg>
ok
13:40
<needhelp>
ubuntu already has it installed its called (plymouth) debian doesnt and id like to work with debain
13:40
w
13:40
Is there something like plymouth for pxelinux?
13:41
<alkisg>
Plymouth is loaded from linux
13:41
Pxelinux is before linux
13:41
You just want a logo
13:41
Use pxelinux.
13:41
<needhelp>
yes okay
13:41
<alkisg>
Ask in #syslinux or google.
13:41
<needhelp>
hmm okay
13:41
<alkisg>
It's just a couple of lines in pxelinux.cfg/default
13:42
<needhelp>
I dont really know how you can configure that in pxelinux
13:42
I did that to try
13:42
but it didnt workout
13:42
<alkisg>
Ask in #syslinux then, paste your configuration file there etc
13:42
<needhelp>
I will try to reach someone in #syslinux
13:42
thanks for your help!
13:43
I am from holland btw
13:43
<alkisg>
np
13:43
Greetings from Greece :)
13:43
<needhelp>
okay!
13:43
have a nice day
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<Hyperbyte>
From Holland? ew......
14:33
Funny he has a German IP too.....
14:33* Hyperbyte is always very suspicious of people from Holland...
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15:08
<johan___>
Hi, I have been trying to find an answer to a problem I have with a fat client setup. Concerning groups. Anyone here who might know?
15:09
The problem is that I can't get neigther glx or sound working without adding users to the 'video' and 'audio' groups on the server.
15:10
Also, I can't mount local devices, which might also have to do with group membership.
15:10
<Hyperbyte>
johan___, not sure. Stick around for a few hours at least, though... I'm sure someone knows the answer.
15:10
:)
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<johan___>
Ok. I'm running latest Ubuntu and the default setup for fat clients from the Ubuntu Wiki, which I guess is important. :-)
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18:53
<gbaman_>
alkisg: finally got round to getting lock-screen.py from epoptes working and killable, new issue now
18:53
my python file that is launching it is running as a service
18:54
when i get it to launch lock-screen.py though i get the gtk errors that it cant find the screen
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<gbaman_>
any ideas alkisg?
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<alkisg>
Check /usr/share/epoptes-client/get-display
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<gbaman_>
ok alkisg, now that i have the display number, how can i force a program to use it?
19:33
<alkisg>
gbaman_: you realize that you're asking me to help you reimplement epoptes, right? :) Just read the code...
19:36
<gbaman_>
large chunk of epoptes features don't work on the Raspberry Pi
19:37
<alkisg>
You installed epoptes-client and it didn't work?
19:37
<gbaman_>
yes?
19:37
<alkisg>
What was the error message?
19:37
<gbaman_>
will give it another go now, 2 mins
19:37
was quite a while ago
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<gbaman_>
broadcast screen does not work
19:49
lock screen does :)
19:50
<alkisg>
What is the error message for broadcast?
19:50
<gbaman_>
i can though remote control client from server
19:50
when i hit broadcast my screen, no error message on client
19:51
no error on server side
19:51
<alkisg>
Launch both epoptes and epoptes-client from a terminal, so that you see stderr
19:51
<gbaman_>
i did
19:52
there is no error on client side
19:52
<alkisg>
Nor on server side?
19:52
<gbaman_>
server starts the vnc server as normal
19:52* ogra_ makes a jedi wave ... "there is no error"
19:52
<gbaman_>
:)
19:52
logout does not work either
19:52
no error
19:53
reboot does though :)
19:54
<alkisg>
OK, file bugs for all those so that we can start troubleshooting them...
19:54
<gbaman_>
ok, will do
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<gbaman_>
so this is the key line alkisg export $(./get-display)
19:59
so that should set the display variable? then just running the python file still does not work?
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