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Channel log from 9 January 2014   (all times are UTC)

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04:44
<Ark74>
hi!
04:45
i'd like to ask for your help about a autologin on ubuntu 12.04
04:45
i tried fixing static ip addresses on dhcpd.conf, with no luck
04:47
recently i got suggested to use ssh-keyring but i ended up with a non-super user power machine
04:47
i mean bye bye root and alike
04:47
:'(
04:48
i'd really like to have some guidance. I'll be around if anyone can spare some time
04:48
thank in advance
04:48
;)
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05:03
<dberkholz>
can't tell you how much i appreciate the restraint from repeating yourself 5x
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06:35
<alkisg>
Ark74: you don't need static ip addresses for autologin, use [mac:address] sections
07:06
<gdi2k>
Ark74, add to your /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf file, something like: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6719279/
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07:17
<bringar>
hullo
07:17
<alkisg>
Hillo
07:18
<bringar>
long time debian user , any more concise documentation than ltsp.org/docs ?
07:20
<alkisg>
I think vagrantc, the debian ltsp maintainer, has some docs at debian.org, but I think it's just the debian-specific differences
07:20
<bringar>
ahh
07:20
<alkisg>
Are you missing some specific documentation?
07:20
<bringar>
i know he is rapt with evolution vs. documentation
07:21
just a basic howto to setup modern x86-64 on debian
07:22
the docs are rather how do i say...
07:22
<alkisg>
https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
07:22
<bringar>
not to be rough
07:24
yes, thanx but...
07:24
this info is way outdated... like
07:24
sarge.. ?
07:25
<alkisg>
last updated: 2013-03-19 21:07:03
07:25
<bringar>
i know and apreciate LTSP is rapidly evolving any nowtos pertaining to wheezy or unstable with dailys from ltsp?
07:25
oh..
07:26
guess i need to learn some more from master vagrant
07:26
<alkisg>
I don't see anything there that wouldn't apply to wheezy
07:26
What are your server, client, and network specs?
07:27
<bringar>
debian ....
07:27
x86-64
07:27
<alkisg>
dual core clients? how much ram? gigabit card? etc
07:27
<bringar>
?
07:27
<alkisg>
The specifications of your client devices
07:27
How much RAM, what CPU, what graphics and network card, etc
07:28
<bringar>
i am at lesiure fir a build, the specs are to my choosing
07:28
i am testing with core i7 cluents and xeon srevers
07:28
nvidia gpus
07:28
<alkisg>
Then you might want to check fat clients
07:29
(ltsp fat clients, that is)
07:29
<bringar>
exactly
07:29
<alkisg>
!fatclients
07:29
<ltsp>
fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
07:29
<alkisg>
!ltsp-pnp
07:29
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
07:30
<alkisg>
Read those 2, I don't see any debian documentation for them, but it should be really similar
07:30
<bringar>
its's not a problem of spec or understanding of the basics, just higly cutomized/ specialized setup configs
07:30
<alkisg>
What customization are you looking for?
07:30
Fat clients, ltsp-pnp etc, are not customizations, just standard ltsp usage...
07:31
<bringar>
i would like to differentiate disk services to fat clients with xsession data
07:31
for instance
07:31
<alkisg>
Fat clients only have disk services, what do you mean xsession data?
07:31
<bringar>
ltsp seems to take so much for granted aas a default install
07:32
<alkisg>
I think it's the exact opposite of what you say :)
07:32
<bringar>
ok , perhaps i'm missing something
07:32
<alkisg>
We have so many things in the codebase for the needs of few individuals, that the code became a bit chaotic just because of that
07:33
nbd, nfs, aoe, sshfs, ltspfs... just the file systems
07:33
<bringar>
i want to suport fat clients for gimp and heavy oppenoffice/libreoffice usage
07:33
<alkisg>
copying them to ram, to local storage, running remotely, localapps, remoteapps, mime handling... chaos
07:33
<bringar>
yes, too many block layer supports
07:33
<alkisg>
Fat clients behave pretty much like local installations
07:34
<bringar>
ahh i know
07:34
<alkisg>
So gimp, libreoffice etc with core i* is pretty simple
07:34
<bringar>
i want rich experience but localied administraton and resource maneagement
07:34
<alkisg>
Yup, you just want a simple fat clients installation
07:34
Nothing customized so far :)
07:34
<bringar>
er centalized
07:35
yes
07:35
basically a debain desktop remotelys served
07:35
over 1gbs +_
07:36
er 1 gbps ++
07:36
<alkisg>
Right, so read the fatclients, the ltsp-pnp and the debian wiki page
07:36
<bringar>
network build again is mine to do
07:36
<alkisg>
It shouldn't take more than a few commands + 1h to do it
07:36
<bringar>
ok
07:38
thank you BTW
07:38
<alkisg>
np
07:38
Personal opinion, I'd go for ltsp-pnp
07:38
(on debian)
07:38
wheezy + backports
07:41
<bringar>
got a /etct/apt/sources line for that?
07:42
er ... slippery fingers
07:42
<alkisg>
It's mentioned in the debian wiki page above...
07:48
<bringar>
thanx for all the assistance
07:49
do you know vagrant's usual arrival, i would like to say hello again...
07:50
i used to know hin in the phyisical..
07:50
<alkisg>
Since he's not here at this hour, I don't think he'll arrive shortly
07:50
Maybe in 12 hours
07:50
<bringar>
cool , ta
07:50
er ta
07:50
<alkisg>
bb
07:53
<bringar>
.gr is where?
07:54
juss curious
07:54
<alkisg>
Greece
07:55
<bringar>
oh, cool
07:55
how do you come by ltsp then?
07:55
<alkisg>
We have about 500+ schools here using ltsp, I'm a member of their support team (and an ltsp developer because of that... :))
07:55
http://www.ltsp.org/stories/widget-map/?location=Greece
07:55
<bringar>
awesoe
07:56
i knew vagrant in a past life it eems
07:56* alkisg met vagrantc in person two years ago... he's a very nice guy
07:56
<bringar>
he taught me to build my first inux kernel
07:57
awesome guy
07:57
that was linux 2.2 kernel ...
07:58
<alkisg>
Haha, that was a while ago... :D
07:58
<bringar>
uh, yeah =, our pathes have diverged a bit
07:59
anyways i find myself in need if this gift ti us he has given
07:59
er to us
08:00
i remember the inception of his involvement exactly
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08:01
<bringar>
hullo
08:01
oh, i built 2.2 on redhat....
08:01
ick
08:02
vc introduced me as well to debian
08:04
\me picks his nose
08:04
.me looks around sheepishly
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08:08
<bringar>
nite for now
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09:11
<markit>
hi alkisg :) Yesterday night by mistake I've upgraded a 12.04 - 32 ltsp server with greek repo with aptitude full-upgrade, and ltsp packages have jumped from 5.4 to 5.5. Seemed to work once updated chroot also, but was not able to do extensive tests . Anythin I'd better be aware and fix tonight? :)
09:15
<alkisg>
markit: no, it's just routine upgrade :)
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09:16
<alkisg>
500+ schools get it, and I didn't have any issues reported yet, so I'm not really expecting anything...
09:16
The new ltspfs saved us some RAM + CPU, the new ltsp offers a few more things etc etc
09:16
And I'll send a new nbd-server in maybe 2 weeks
09:17
markit: upgrades go to our -proposed ppa first, if you want to see them before they go to the main ppa
09:21
<markit>
alkisg: thanks a lot :)
09:21
I've briefily seen some errors reported by KDE, apparmor related, but don't know if introduced by kde 4.11 to 4.12 upgrade, I will investigate later in the week
09:23
at the moment my pains come from some LiBo-kde related bugs, and printers in general
09:23
in addition to teachers total ignorance
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09:32
<alkisg>
!learn noaccel as `Some graphics cards, e.g. sis on 14.04, require this setting in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\""`
09:32
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
09:32
<alkisg>
!noaccel
09:32
<ltsp>
noaccel: Some graphics cards, e.g. sis on 14.04, require this setting in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01=""NoAccel""
09:33
<alkisg>
!noaccel
09:33
<ltsp>
noaccel: Some graphics cards, e.g. sis on 14.04, require this setting in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\""
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<Marc_>
hello
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<Guest23345>
hello
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14:22
<lifeboy>
Hi all
14:22
Having a strange problem with X configuration on a thin client.
14:23
Same hardware thin clients, some use a Samsung 19" LED screen and other an older 19 Benq LCD.
14:24
The Benq monitor clients see only garbage (little coloured blocks), while the Samsung clients are fine.
14:24
<vlt>
lifeboy: Which distro?
14:25
<lifeboy>
Debian 7 Wheezy
14:25
<vlt>
lifeboy: Does your lts.conf specify any X settings?
14:25
<lifeboy>
No difference whether I use an xorg.conf of not, or set the lst.conf X settings
14:26
<vlt>
lifeboy: Already tried without any settings in a conf file?
14:26
<lifeboy>
Yes, that was the initial setup. Of course, if I knew how to determine which X settings to set in lts.conf...
14:27
There is no error in the xorg log file, since the display card is detected correctly configured
14:27
but I think the monitor gets send a frequency or setting it can't handle
14:27
It used the vesa driver
14:29
It's the combination of the RDC display card and Benq monitor. The Benq monitors work fine with the same ltsp server and chroot on other hardware clients
14:30
Interestingly is was working 100% when I was still booting Ubuntu 10.04... Now that the chroot is running Debian 7, the monitor fails.
14:30
s/is was working/it was working/
14:31
<vlt>
hmmm
14:32
<lifeboy>
Probably not quite an ltsp issue, except it makes it really difficult to troubleshoot, especially when working remotely!
14:32
<vlt>
Did you use any drivers on Ubuntu that are not available (by default) on a Debian system=
14:32
?
14:32
<lifeboy>
no, just using the standard vesa driver
14:33
There is an rdc display driver, but it's not as stable as the vesa one, so there little reason to use it.
14:34
I've been trawling the interwebs to see what I can find on how to determine a monitor's capabilities, but clearly doing that by means of the system that fails to detect the correct setting, will not give better results that what I'm getting already.
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<lifeboy>
I'm using the following in my lts.conf in an attempt to force better settings.
14:36
CONFIGURE_X = True
14:36
XSERVER = "vesa"
14:36
X_COLOR_DEPTH = 15
14:36
X_MODE_0 = 1440x900
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<johnhupp>
Hi, all. Alkis suggested I come by here to see if a live session might quickly solve the problem in which clients fail with "Error: Socket failed: connection refused"
15:06
So I'll find out who is around at this hour.
15:10
He made that suggestion almost 12 hours ago so perhaps timing will be a bit of an issue....
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15:15
<markit>
johnhupp: I've some note about that error, but don't know if related (and I've no time to help you sorry). Are you using ubuntu 12.04?
15:16
<johnhupp>
Ubuntu 13.10. I've never had this problem on older *buntu's.
15:17
<markit>
mm dnsmasq as dhcp proxy?
15:17
well, in any case my only note about this issue is: This is another type of error seen alot in setting up ltsp. Specific to 12.04, nbd-server uses a separate port (with the standard being port 2000). You may need to modify the default file and remove the port number after the nbdroot. ex:
15:17
nbdroot=192.168.x.x:2000 or nbdroot=192.168.x.x nbdport=2000
15:18
In the above case nbdroot should again be:
15:18
nbdroot=:ltsp_i386
15:18
<johnhupp>
I'm using the standard ltsp-pnp setup with a couple small mods.
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<Neemias>
Ola
15:19
Ola
15:20
Alguem sabe me dizer como faço pra instalar o LTSP no CentOs?
15:21
<johnhupp>
The mods: 1) Edit /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager to replace bind-interfaces with bind-dynamic. 2) Edit /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf and comment out port=0.
15:21
<markit>
johnhupp: ah, sorry, I know nothing about the -pnp version, never tried
15:22
btw, maybe nbdroot=/opt/ltsp/i386 instead of nbdroot=:ltsp_i386 in more recent versions
15:22
<Neemias>
?
15:22
Como faço paa instalar o LTSP no CentOS
15:22
?
15:23
<johnhupp>
In PNP there is no separate chroot, it just uses /, not /opt/ltsp/i386
15:24
(Sorry, Neemias, I don't speak your language, and I don't use CentOS.)
15:28
But Neemias, somewhere there is a little instruction for installing LTSP on certain distros that don't have an installer disc with LTSP as an option. I used this instruction to install LTSP on Lubuntu.
15:29
It does rely on support in the repositories, however, and I have no idea whether CentOS has this support.
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<other_other_joe>
any experts around?
15:55
I'm trying to figure out or figure out a good way to figure out why some of my lts.conf variables aren't always honored
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<other_other_joe>
SHUTDOWN_TIME="23:45:00"
15:57
for instance
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<other_other_joe>
is set and reflected with getltsp -a
15:59
but the node didn't shut down
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<gvy>
other_other_joe, I'd start with grepping through the corresponding chroot or booted rootfs regarding that
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<gvy>
just in case there's none
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<other_other_joe>
I'm sorry, I don't think I follow you?
16:13
/opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/lts.conf does have the SHUTDOWN_TIME variable set
16:14
and the node reflects it being set as an environmental variable
16:14
<gvy>
I mean that I'd do something like grep -r SHUTDOWN_TIME /opt/ltsp/amd64
16:14
to see if ot
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*to see if it's used in any actual script handler and not only declared
16:15
<other_other_joe>
ah, I see
16:15
It is used somewhere. Most of my nodes honor it
16:15
<gvy>
ah
16:16
then I'd look into the context of that script, maybe backup it and tweak to add set -x (and probably exec 2>/tmp/log or something)
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<other_other_joe>
I have LDM_DEBUG set as well
16:16
ah
16:16
good call
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<epoptes_user8>
Hey guys. I'm new at LTSP and I'm trying to run either epoptes or ltsp-manager but both give me code errors... any clues?
16:29
<alkisg1>
epoptes_user8: what errors does epoptes give you?
16:30
Also, which distribution and version?
16:30
<epoptes_user8>
Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/epoptes", line 63, in <module> epoptesGui = gui.EpoptesGui() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/epoptes/ui/gui.py", line 89, in __init__ if config.settings.has_option('GUI', 'showRealNames'): AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'settings'
16:30
Using Ubuntu 13.10
16:31
<alkisg1>
epoptes_user8: did you run sudo epoptes?
16:31
<epoptes_user8>
yes
16:31
<alkisg1>
Don't, run epoptes from the menu.
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<alkisg1>
Or anyway without the sudo part
16:32
<IxE>
I tried with sudo and without
16:32
<alkisg1>
OK, try without. What does it say?
16:32
<IxE>
Connection with epoptes failed: An error occurred while connecting: 13: Permission non accordée.
16:32
<alkisg1>
Did you read http://www.epoptes.org/installation?
16:32
<IxE>
Permission non accordée. = Permission dinied
16:32
<alkisg1>
You need to add yourself to the epoptes group, AND logout/login again
16:32
<IxE>
Permission non accordée. = Permission denied
16:33
I added myself but didn't logout/login... let me try
16:33
<alkisg1>
Instead of logout,
16:33
you can run "newgrp epoptes"
16:33
and then "epoptes"
16:33
But it's easier if you just logout/login
16:34
<IxE>
no.. it worked... thanks... that was easy enough! ;)
16:34
<alkisg1>
Yup, the installation page should contain all the necessary info...
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<IxE>
Thanks bud!
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<alkisg1>
np
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<IxE>
got any experience with ltsp-manager?
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<other_other_joe>
alkisg1: do the LDM_AUTOLOGIN and LDM_USERNAME variables being set have any effect on the ldm scripts that run?
16:42
X** scripts don't run if AUTOLOGIN set, or something like that I mean
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<alkisg1>
IxE: ltsp-manager isn't maintained, it doesn't work anymore
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<alkisg1>
other_other_joe: I don't understand your question
16:46
those variables do what they're designed to do...
16:46
So yeah they have an effect, they autologin the user :)
16:46
<other_other_joe>
haha, right right
16:47
I mean, do they effect what priority the ldm/rc.d scripts have
16:48
<ogra_>
alkisg1, lol
16:48
ltsp-manager never worked
16:48
<alkisg1>
ogra_: I wonder why it's still in the archives :)
16:48
<ogra_>
(or did anyone take my few lines of mockup code and make it work)
16:49
alkisg1, because nobody filed a removal bug i guess
16:49
<other_other_joe>
I was trying to test a script X99-test that just "echo 'test-x99' > /home/ldm_rc.txt" on a client that autologins
16:49
<alkisg1>
ogra_: I guess the developer should do that :)
16:49
<other_other_joe>
doesn't wanna work
16:49
<ogra_>
now you tell me !
16:49
<alkisg1>
Since it never had any users, if it never worked! :)
16:49
<ogra_>
:)
16:50
<alkisg1>
other_other_joe: is that /home/file, or /home/username/file ?
16:50
<other_other_joe>
/home/file
16:50
<alkisg1>
other_other_joe: anyway, if you're trying to see about SHUTDOWN_TIME, I think that part of the code has some bugs
16:50
First check what it puts in crontab...
16:50
<other_other_joe>
ah, yea that was a thing too
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<other_other_joe>
apparently nothing :)
16:52
no crontab for root
16:52
on that client that didn't shut down that is
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<alkisg1>
CRON_FILE=/etc/cron.d/ltsp
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<other_other_joe>
ah
16:54
all looks well there
16:54
45 23 * * * root test ! -S "$(ls -1 /var/run/ldm_socket_* | head -1)" && PATH=$PATH:/sbin/ poweroff
16:54
matches a cron on a client that did shut down
16:55
guess I didn't realize it was working on cron, I'll check those logs
17:00
<ogra_>
alkisg1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp-manager/+bug/1267538 for your pleasure :)
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<alkisg1>
ogra_: nice, I think IxE will be less confused on which tool to choose now :)
17:01
<ogra_>
yep
17:01
should save some future support questions :)
17:05
<johnhupp>
Hi, all. I'm troubleshooting clients failing to boot under *buntu 13.10. Message is 'Error: socket failed: connection refused'. But give me a minute while I quit here and rejoin from the server....
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<ogra_>
alkisg1, ^^^ dont miss him this time :P
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<alkisg1>
Haha
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<alkisg1>
Yeah it's been 2 months now that I've been reading his troubleshooting efforts in the ML
17:07
I'm guessing it's worth it to spend 5 minutes to solve them, instead... :)
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<ogra_>
lol, yeah
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<alkisg>
johnhupp: hi there
17:09
<johnhupp>
OK, back again, sitting in front of the server. Hi, Alkis.
17:09
<alkisg>
johnhupp: so, your issue is still with the nbd server ?
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<johnhupp>
You or Vagrant suggested that I try troubleshooting without LTSP, so I think I exonerated NBD in that process
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<alkisg>
johnhupp: let's try to do this quickly... you have a broken ltsp server, and you want to fix it, right?
17:11
What differences do you want from the "standard" ltsp-pnp setup?
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<johnhupp>
On a freestanding machine, I was able to test NBD and it looked OK. So unless NBD has a problem that only shows up in LTSP, it seems like it may be something else.
17:11
broken ltsp server, right.
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<alkisg>
Let me take a quick glance there... this will share your screen with me: x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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<johnhupp>
The mods: 1) Edit /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager to replace bind-interfaces with bind-dynamic. 2) Edit /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf and comment out port=0.
17:12
<alkisg>
(install x11vnc if you don't have it)
17:13
<johnhupp>
OK, hold on while I install ...
17:18
<alkisg>
!kvm
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<ltsp>
kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -vga vmware -ctrl-grab -kernel /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/vmlinuz -append "append ro initrd=initrd.img init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/nbd0 ip=:10.160.67.10::" -initrd /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/initrd.img -no-shutdown
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<alkisg>
johnhupp: your nbd server etc work fine
17:24
I.e. the kvm client booted fine
17:24
So I'm guessing that the problem is in your dhcp server
17:24
What are you using for the dhcp server? A router? A windows server?
17:24
<johnhupp>
router
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<alkisg>
I tried asking the router for an IP, but it didn't answer
17:25
Any weird configuration on that router?
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<johnhupp>
no, out-of-the box except for the wireless stuff
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<alkisg>
johnhupp: did the client drop in a busybox?
17:32
<johnhupp>
client failed as it was "setting up nbd-client
17:33
<alkisg>
johnhupp: the client didn't try to contact the server at all
17:33
So it might be trying to connect e.g. to your router
17:33
What's the last line that you see in your client?
17:33
<johnhupp>
but isn't wouldn't it look like that with "connection refused"
17:34
now it's in the busybox shell
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<alkisg>
ok, run this: cat /run/net*.conf
17:34
And see the line for ROOTSERVER there
17:34
That should be your ltsp server. If it isn't, then that's your problem
17:35
<johnhupp>
run that cat cmd on the client?
17:35
<alkisg>
Yes
17:35
<johnhupp>
"no such file or directory"
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<alkisg>
That means that the network wasn't configured...
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Run this: ipconfig
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(all on the client)
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<johnhupp>
"no devices to configure"
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<alkisg>
ipconfig eth0
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<johnhupp>
no response to that command
17:37
<alkisg>
So, I think that the problem is that the kernel/initramfs doesn't see your network card
17:37
What card is it?
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<johnhupp>
it's a 3com, and it has a module loaded
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<alkisg>
And, do you have a standard kernel/initramfs, or did you mess with it?
17:37
<johnhupp>
how would I have messed with it?
17:37
<alkisg>
Because I see that your /boot is 5 Gb... :)
17:38
And your /lib/modules 10 Gb... :)
17:38
<johnhupp>
i tested a bunch of kernels
17:38
<alkisg>
Is that one we're trying with now, the default one?
17:38
<johnhupp>
yes, a default ubuntu kernel
17:39
<alkisg>
Do you have another client to test with?
17:39
<johnhupp>
yes, shall i?
17:39
<alkisg>
Please do
17:39
The kvm virtual client seems to boot fine
17:40
although it's really slow because your server doesn't support acceleration
17:48
!nbd-client
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<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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<alkisg>
johnhupp: try that from busybox, but put your server's IP there
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<alkisg>
Aaah you might be having the problem with the "ip" variable that was forced to be uppercased later on in initramfs-tools
17:53
I don't think anyone's testing those non-LTS versions for LTSP... you guys should stop using those :)
18:00* alkisg is talking about http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/2509
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<johnhupp>
I'm sorry, Alkis, my hastily arranged second client seems to have involved my toggling off the power for a UPS this server was connected to
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<alkisg>
johnhupp: sorry I got busy too and left it for a few minutes...
18:08
Connect again, x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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<johnhupp>
that works!
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<alkisg>
johnhupp: ok so if you want file a bug for ubuntu saucy to backport the fix that I linked above ^
18:16
And, stop using non-LTS ubuntu releases :)
18:17
<johnhupp>
they solve other problems for me (sad)
18:17
<alkisg>
Like what?
18:17
<johnhupp>
tell me more about the bug-fix
18:17
zram broken
18:17
<alkisg>
Click on the link above ^
18:17
(08:00:40 μμ) ***alkisg is talking about http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/2509
18:17
Don't use zram
18:17
It harms LTSP clients
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<johnhupp>
wow, i didn't know that about zram: clients
18:19
the fix is released for 14.04?
18:20
<alkisg>
Yes, and for 12.04 in the greek schools ppa
18:20
<johnhupp>
ok, I'll look at filing a bug
18:21
thanks for identifying this -- it was quite a display :-)
18:22* alkisg needs to stop replying to people NOT using LTS releases though :)
18:22
<johnhupp>
yes, I figured no one else was treading on this untested ground, going where angels fear to walk
18:25
ok, signing off, and it bears repeating: thanks for investing this effort in a "quick" look!
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<alkisg>
bb! :)
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<IxE>
Anyone know any tools similar to ltsp-manager that works?
19:18
<alkisg>
opensuse had a tool named "easy ltsp", I don't think ubuntu ever had one
19:22
<IxE>
thanks alkisg
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<Ark74>
alkisg, what is the effect on clients using zram, could it damage the memories?
19:33
<alkisg>
Ark74: no, it just takes some memory from the client
19:34
We have NBD_SWAP, we don't need zram for swapping
19:34
s/takes/reserves/
19:36
<Ark74>
alkisg, i'm re-installing my server, haven't setp up successfully NBD SWAP, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/EnableNBDSWAP would not work
19:36
<alkisg>
Ark74: it's automatically enabled
19:38
<Ark74>
alkisg, is it a file created on /tmp something "orbit" on it?
19:38
<alkisg>
Yes, /tmp/nbd-swap*
19:40
<Ark74>
wow! right, haven't noticed before
19:40
nbd nbd 4,0K ene 9 13:39 nbd-swap
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<other_other_joe>
!manual
20:55
<ltsp>
manual: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download
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<other_ot1er_joe>
can I just add whavetever options I want to the lts.conf and have them exported as variables unrelated to ltsp?
21:05
[default]
21:06
I'd like evironmental variable A exported on all clients for instance
21:06
can I just toss A='value' in the default section?
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