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Channel log from 9 February 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<johnny>
only if it's an inventory of food :)
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<alkisg>
stgraber: still here?
00:54
iTalc runs fine for vbox + 1 client I have here at home. But I think you should also include the hostname in the avahi service name, e.g. someone may run italc in standalone (or fat) clients with local user accounds, so usernames may not be unique in a local network...
00:54
Also, if you used the hostname, you would be able to reuse it while generating the ./italc/globalconfig.xml file - now it only contains "client0" "client1" etc
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<alkisg>
Anyone tried vmware ltsp clients? Do they have graphics acceleration out of the box? ('cause I didn't manage to install vbox additions to the clients)
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(*to the virtualbox clients)
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<Remaille>
Hi, in my network all my users have their own directory on a windows server. I have created them the same login/pass account on LTSP than on their own windows share
03:18
How could I automount heir windows share on the client desktop ?
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<cyberorg>
Remaille, use pam_mount is all i know about it
03:19
<Remaille>
I think, i would need to catch their login/pass and send it to automount
03:19
cyberorg, pam_mount ? I check thanks
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yes that seems to do this job !
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thanks
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<cyberorg>
yw :)
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<mih>
anyone with rdesktop as default screen (to a windows TS) and with sound in rdesktop ?
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<Taneli>
hi, dunno if this is ubuntu or virtualbox related issue, but anyway:
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I'm trying to set up ltsp server and clients on same physical machine using virtualbox
04:50
dhcp works fine, but nbd/client stops and says: read failed: inappropriate ioctl for device
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<Appiah_>
I been testing LTSP in virtualbox without problems
04:52
nbd client error message is common even for working LTSP solutions
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<Taneli>
with ubuntu 8.10?
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<Appiah_>
yupp
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<Taneli>
d'oh
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<Appiah_>
It's not the nbd client having a problem
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usally something else
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like ldm not launching
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<Taneli>
I mean the client starts loading but ends up with stuff like "Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptor"
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<Appiah_>
yes but it says on all ltsp setups
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says so*
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that I have
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they still work
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<Taneli>
mmmh
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<Appiah_>
do you have something in your lts.conf?
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<Taneli>
good question :)
04:55
where does it exist by default?
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(just started with ltsp today)
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<Appiah_>
oh
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<Taneli>
done so far: set up server, tweaked dhcpd.conf, tried booting client -> fail :)
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<Appiah_>
try deleeting the client chroot and building it again
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<Taneli>
ok
05:04
totally off-topic but imo vbox networking has gone more and more unstable
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<Appiah_>
never had a network scenario in vbox that did not work for me
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<Taneli>
well yeah, it's more probably ubuntu or just me
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<xrmx__>
hi, anybody here's working for antec group?
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<Taneli>
Appiah_: thanks a lot!
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rebuilding made the difference
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<Appiah_>
Taneli: np
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xrmx__: antec what?
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<xrmx__>
Appiah_, it's the manufacture of thincan something thin clients from estonia afair
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<Appiah_>
oh oki
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and they have some ltsp people?
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<xrmx__>
Appiah_: don't know was trying to discover that too :)
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<cdshan>
Hi! I have installed ubuntu-8.04 LTS server and ltsp 5 on the server. I have the clients booting fine. I am trying to configure a dotmatrix printer connected to the client, there is no error message displayed but when I try to print a test page nothing happens. Could someone help me on where I could be going wrong?
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<cdshan>
can some one help me with the the printer configuration problem?
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<xrmx__>
cdshan, i'm not ltsp expert but if you want to attach a usb printer to thin client you need cups on the thin client image at least
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<ogra>
ugh, what makes you think that ?
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you dont need cups :)
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<cdshan>
ogra: Can I use the system>admin>printing application to configure the printer?
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<ogra>
ltsp uses jetpipe which essentially turns your client into a jetdirect server for the attached printer
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<cdshan>
I have used that and the ip of the client that I am connected to is 192.168.13.31, I have used the app-jet connection connecting to port 9100
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<ogra>
though jetpipe in hardy only supports usb and parallel printers
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<cdshan>
usually when I used the redhat based installations, I used to be able to telnet into the client and see if the printer was connected or now, now I am not able to do that too.
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<ogra>
then you did everything right ...
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you defined the printer in lts.conf as well i assume ?
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<xrmx__>
ogra, do you know someone inside artec that speak english?
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<cdshan>
but then when I try to print a test page nothing is happening. I have a epson fx-2175 dotmatrix printer, I have choosen it as a generic text only printer.
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Yes I have configured it as Printer_0_Device = /dev/lp0
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<ogra>
xrmx__, before he left the company Q-Funk was our direct ltsp contact, i dont know who does it now
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<cdshan>
and port as 9100
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do I have to give any other parameters?
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<ogra>
cdshan, ok, add SCREEN_02=shell and SCREEN_07=ldm to your lts.conf
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<cdshan>
ok
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<ogra>
that way you can go to a console on tty2 on the client
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<xrmx__>
ogra, do you have any other reccomendation for a cheap thin client in .eu?
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<cdshan>
can I do all this from the client itself or do I have to work only on the server?
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<ogra>
xrmx__, not really, i think the thincan is the cheapest you can get
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<cdshan>
I mean by doing a sudo
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<ogra>
if you have the screen settings in lts.conf you should even do it on the client
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<xrmx__>
ogra, ok, thanks
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<ogra>
as yu wont be able to reach the client console from the server
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<cdshan>
can I use the terminal application and do sudo -i
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<ogra>
no
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<cdshan>
what about ssh ?
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<ogra>
you need to go to the console
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<cdshan>
ogra: please go ahead
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<ogra>
there is nothing running on the client that lets you in remotely for security reasons
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<cdshan>
ogra: Hold on I will move to the server and connect back.
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<cdshan>
bye
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<cdshan>
ogra: I am back!
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Now I am on the server
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please let me know what I should be doing?
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I also noticed that when I log into the server, at the login screen at the botton right hand side corner I get a different ip
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could this be the reason?
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<ogra>
edit your lts.conf as i said above ... then boot a client, hit ctrl-alt-f2 and check that jetpipe is running and that your printer is really attached to lp0
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<cdshan>
can you please repeat the two line you had mentioned? I lost it in transit to the server
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<ogra>
SCREEN_02=shell and SCREEN_07=ldm
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add that to the default section of your lts.conf
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then go to a client, boot it and switch to its console with ctrl-alt-f2
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<cdshan>
ok, I will try it and be back in a moment
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<_UsUrPeR_>
morning all
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<cdshan>
ogra: I tried what you have said but I was not able to see the message as it moved back to the graphic login screen and when I switch back it has scrolled up. Is there any other way to see those messages?
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but I tried to print and is still doesnt
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<ogra>
what messages ?
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you should be on a console to type in commands
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i.e.: ps -ax
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so you can see if jetpipe is running
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<cdshan>
ok, I will check and be back
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<cdshan>
I don´t see jetpipe in the list, could you please tell me what I should do?
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<ogra>
dmesg|grep lp0
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check if the printer is seen by the kernel
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and also look if /dev/lp0 actually exists
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jetpipe checks if the device exists before it attempts to start
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<cdshan>
how would I check if /dev/lp0 exists?
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<ogra>
ls
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<cdshan>
ok
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I will be back
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<johnb>
Hello
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<cdshan>
ogra: For dmesg I get an output as lp0: paralle-port (intrupt-driven)
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<johnb>
We are testing the latest Fedora with K12Linux
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<cdshan>
Ï checked to see if /dev/lp0 is there and it is there.
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<johnb>
We are currently running an older CentOS based ktlsp
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<johnb>
Our clients are all compaq D51 or D5S that date back to 2001
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two different video sets - one NV and the other Intel
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<cdshan>
ogra: I am able to see lp0 when I do dmesg|grep
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<johnb>
the auto detection of monitors seems to be our stumbling block
08:31
some work and some don't
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<cdshan>
ogra: any other clue?
08:33
ogra: could there be some firewall blocking?
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<johnb>
it has been suggested by some that the hardware is problematic and non-usable for the latest X.org / kernel
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I would like to see if we can squeeze a little life out our existing systems
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<Gadi>
johnb: have you tried: XSERVER=vesa ?
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<cdshan>
:'(
08:36
<johnb>
not yet but it is on my list of things to try
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<Gadi>
cdshan: so, you have trouble printing and jetpipe does not run?
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<cdshan>
Gadi: thats right
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<ogra>
cdshan, not unless you set up a firewall between server and client
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by default there is no firewalling anywhere
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<cdshan>
I didn´t do any thing like that
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<Gadi>
cdshan: can you log into the client console?
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<cdshan>
I have only the default installation
08:38
yes
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<ogra>
when did you download the iso you used ?
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<Gadi>
cdshan: from the client console, type: jetpipe /dev/lp0 9100
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<ogra>
the very firts iso that was online until beginning of november was actually missing jetpipe
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<cdshan>
ogra: if that be the case then how do I get around it?
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ogra: Which iso are you talking about, the ubuntu or the ltsp?
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<ogra>
easyest is to just grab the jetpipe script from the upstream tree and dump it into your client chroot
08:40
there is no ltsp iso :)
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<cdshan>
ok
08:41
could you please guide me on how to do it?
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<ogra>
i'm talking about 8.04.0 ... which was shortly after release replaced by 8.04.1
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well, follow Gadi's advise first
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<cdshan>
currently my system says that is 8.04.1
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I will type jetpipt and get back to you with the result.
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<ogra>
well, what counts is what the CD actually is :)
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<cdshan>
one moment please
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ok
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<ogra>
you system will become 8.04.1 (or .2) with the regular upgrades
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<cyberorg>
hi guys, tested usbip today, works great here is how it worked http://pastebin.com/d466fef21
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<cdshan>
Gadi: it says jetpipe: command not found
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<cyberorg>
usbip is already in kernel
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<cdshan>
I guess ogra method should be used?
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<ogra>
just get the jetpipe script from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files/head%3A/client/jetpipe/
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copy it to /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/ and run sudo ltsp-update-image
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<cdshan>
ogra: done
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I have run the update-image
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should I reboot the client?
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<ogra>
yep
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<cdshan>
ok, I will be back in a moment
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<Gadi>
cdshan: you will also need the: python-serial
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package in the chroot
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<ogra>
Gadi, oh, you dont let it gracefully ignore python-serial if its not needed ?
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<jammcq>
good morning friends
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<ogra>
good $timeofday jammcq
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<Gadi>
ogra: no
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:)
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<ogra>
Gadi, would be a nifty addition ;)
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<Gadi>
it is integrated in the code such that it is needed
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:)
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<ogra>
well, make it optional :)
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<Gadi>
yeah, well
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not the top priority
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:)
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<ogra>
try: import serial ... except: noserial=True ... then make the functions check for noserial
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<Gadi>
ogra: sounds like ur half-way there
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:)
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<etyack>
jammcq: hey hey. 56 deg tomorrow. get out the spf 50
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<ogra>
except that i'm only halfway here :)
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i'm up to my arms in arms ;)
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<johnb>
hello Jim we are finally getting around to taking LTSP 5 for a test drive 4 has served us well but it's time move up
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<jammcq>
etyack: cool. I'll get my thong out too
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<Gadi>
oh man - /me looks for paper bag....
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<jammcq>
hey johnb
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<etyack>
jammcq: yah, you do that
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just don't put it on
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<cdshan>
ogra: when I type jetpipe /dev/lp0 9100 in the console it says bash: /usr/sbin/jetpipe permission denied
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<cdshan>
but when I login to the graphical interface and use the console application to run the command it says command not found
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ogra: do I need to install ´╗┐python-serial?
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<Gadi>
cdshan: yes
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<jammcq>
cdshan: that's cuz when you go graphical, your session is on the server, not the workstation
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<Gadi>
sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install python-serial
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<cdshan>
Package python-serial is not available, but is referred to by another package.
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This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
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is only available from another source
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E: Package python-serial has no installation candidate
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<cdshan>
this is the output I get when try to install python-serial
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Gadi: what should I do next
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<ogra>
cdshan, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
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<ogra>
sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<ogra>
then try again
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!s
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<ltspbot>
ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<etyack>
sbalneav: morning Scotty
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<cdshan>
i updated the image and rebooted the client
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its says usr/sbin/jetpipe permission denied
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Gadi: ?
09:20
ogra: ?
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<ogra>
oh, sudo chmod +x /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/jetpipe && sudo ltsp-update-image
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<Gadi>
cdshan: did you install python-serial?
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<cdshan>
Gadi: yes
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<Blinny>
Is there a way to disable middle-click pasting on a per-user or per-thin client basis?
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<cdshan>
Gadi: ogra: I will be back in a short while.
09:23
Hope you guys will be online for another half hour or so?
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<johnb>
gadi: I am only to test a few clients at the moment but so far XSERVER = vesa is working!
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<johnb>
I went to X.org and they say: "used for fallback driver in new and old video hardware"
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johnb is wondering... what is the down side to vesa
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<johnb>
is it possible to have terminals automatically drop back to vesa if there is a problem?
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<johnny>
it should fall back to vesa if you don't set any X vars in ltsp 5
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shouldn't it?
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<Gadi>
johnb: vesa has no acceleration and cannot support widescreen modes
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it is a generic driver
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<johnb>
johnny: I am new to 5 and running to catch up with the times but I just plugged in a Fedora 10 server into our existing network and 50% of our terminals
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would not give us a good log in screen
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<johnny>
in fedora10, it should default to vesa.. you'd think
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since it does no x config file by default
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<johnb>
class in session so I can't get to all the terms but Its looking like this well help get us into an updated desktop
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<johnb>
johnny: I guess not... in a stock Fedora 10 K12Linux server
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do you think this a bug in K12Linux?
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<johnny>
what video hardware does it have?
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if it's nvidia that would be understandable..
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oh wait.. it should still default to nv.. altho no 3d
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<johnb>
all of them are 8 year old compaq D51 and D5S some have NV and others have Intel video
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I have not verified but it seems to depend on the card / monitor combination
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<johnny>
ouch
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<Gadi>
johnb: alternatively, it could be issues with the video modes
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<Gadi>
you can try to force particular modes for those machines
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for example:
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<Gadi>
XRANDR_MODE_0 = 1024x768
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<SDuensin>
Hello all.
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<johnb>
ok with XSERVER = vesa set as the default 100% of the terminals are now booting
10:17* SDuensin subliminally reminds johnny about, oh, I dunno. :-)
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<johnb>
In November I thought about moving to LTSP 5 and we tried out the latest Edubuntu
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ran into the same video problem and did not follow up on a fix
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maybe this XSERVER setting might work for us on it also
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<stgraber>
I'll tag ltsp-trunk again very soon, any coming changes that I should wait ?
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<nubae>
alkisg... logs should be back up
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i believe the sysadmins realised im running a bot and are purposely killing it
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<cdshan>
Gadi: & ogra: Thanks for your help, I got the printer working, but there is a small issue I would like to have ur inputs on
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I am using dotmatrix printers - earlier when I was using CentOS as the server, I had used the generic text only driver
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but now when I try using that the printer does not respond.
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if I use the foomatic drivers it works.
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gadi:how do I get the text only printer driver to work on my clients?
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<ogra>
sounds like a cups issue
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<-- no clue about cups internals
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<cdshan>
I guess so, the centos machine uses an erlier version of cups
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<cdshan>
ogra: I need one more clarification - regarding updates to the server. When ever we update the server using the update manager do we have to chroot and update the opt/ltsp/i386 also and run a ltsp-update-image?
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to ensure we have the latest version working on both the server and the clients?
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<johnny>
cdshan, only if you do a full dit upgrade
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dist*
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or distro upgrade
11:07
updating the chroot is not often necessary
11:08
unless you are told to do so to fix an encounted bug
11:08
in fact.. if you do upgrade distros.. it is in fact best.. to delete the chroot and start over
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<cdshan>
ok
11:09
but there is no automatic way of doing this like we have the update manager working in the ubuntu desktop?
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<johnny>
cdshan, not yet
11:20
when you upgrade to jaunty or whatever you do next
11:20
just rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386 && ltsp-build-client -a i386
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<r1ka>
hi everyone
11:24
can anybody explain me why my k12linux (live media based on fedora 10 installed on hdd) is ignoring settings in lts.conf totally? =(
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<cdshan>
I am not able to get much help from the cusp group
11:26
they are asking me why we are connecting a parallel port printer using jetdirect method?
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<johnb>
thanks all bye
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<r1ka>
=(
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<johnny>
r1ka, you put it in the wrong place maybe?
11:41
some fedora person will be around at some point
11:41
cdshan, it's custom for ltsp
11:41
required
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<r1ka>
i have empty lts.conf in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc after install
11:41
<johnny>
yes you should
11:41
that's not the file you should edit
11:41
it gets overlain
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<johnny>
you want to edit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<r1ka>
in process of boot client?
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<r1ka>
thank you
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<cdshan>
ogra: I have a small issue regarding the printer, it does not start printing after a normal boot up, I have to go to the tty2 and type jetpipe /dev/lp0 9100 only then it starts printing
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<cdshan>
Is there some way of making this happen at the time of booting itself?
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<cdshan>
johnny: any ideas?
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<ogra>
yur lts.conf entry should do that
11:49
<johnny>
i don't know much about printing
11:49
cdshan, also.. ask questions to the room
11:49
not specific people
11:50
<cdshan>
I have an entry in the lts.conf file saying PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/lp0
11:50
is this what you are saying?
11:50
<johnny>
parallel printers.. i'm so glad i don't have to deal with them anymore
11:51
i'm looking forward to legacy free computers
11:51
<ogra>
cdshan, i know Gadi hacked up jetpipe quite a lot since i last touched it, so he might be your best recource
11:51
<cdshan>
Gadi: could you please help me with this issue?
11:53* Gadi does not even know exactly what version of ubuntu you have or why it lacked jetpipe to begin with
11:53
<Gadi>
try: grep -R jetpipe /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d
11:54
<ogra>
Gadi, my fault ... it was missing in the package in the first hardy release ... (which was only available for two weeks though)
11:54
<Gadi>
ogra: can he not apt-get it?
11:54
(the update)
11:54
<ogra>
sure
11:54
<Gadi>
and besides, it should still run on boot
11:55
if he added it in by hand
11:55
<ogra>
the quick fix is to just copy in the script though
11:55
but i had forgotten that you bloted it inbetween :P
11:55
*bloated
11:56
Gadi, might be it requires stuff thaths not in the old initscript
11:56
<Gadi>
shouldnt
11:56
<cdshan>
the output for the grep command is as follows:
11:56
<Gadi>
especially when it works when started by hand
11:56
:)
11:56
<ogra>
looking at the new initscript it sets a bunch of defaults the old one hadn't
11:56
<cdshan>
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup: /usr/sbin/jetpipe ${DEVICE} ${PORT}
11:56
<Gadi>
ogra: those are graceful
11:56
:)
11:56
cdshan: you did put it in usr/sbin right?
11:57
and not usr/bin
11:57
<ogra>
why the heck are we using the path there ?
11:57
<cdshan>
yes, I had put it in /usr/sbin
11:57
thats what I was told to do
11:57
<Gadi>
good
11:58
cdshan: can you pastebot /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup
11:58
!pastebot
11:58
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
11:59
<Gadi>
and your lts.conf
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<ltsppbot>
"cdshan" pasted "lts.conf and ltsp-client-setup" (299 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/240
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<Gadi>
cdshan: try adding an empty line before [accounts1]
12:03
that may be a syntax error
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<Gadi>
and comment out PRINTER_0_PORT
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<epsas>
hmm
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<cdshan>
done, I will reboot the clinets and let u know what has happened
12:06
<epsas>
i have an ltsp server that I want to test - it is in the server room, but I want to test thin clients in the office outside -- my brain hurts this morning, and I am trying to figure out how to set up DHCP to only serve clients whose MAC address is specified in the dhcpd.conf
12:06
so there will be no collisions with the existing dhcp server(s)
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<cdshan>
Gadi: It is not working
12:09
:'(
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<alkisg>
epsas: do these thin clients have something to put gpxe on? (hd, cd, floppy...)
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<Gadi>
cdshan: ctrl-alt-f2 on the thin client and type: getltscfg -a
12:12
tell me if that returns an error
12:12
<epsas>
alkisg - i have some terminals from diskelessworkstation.com
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<Gadi>
epsas: deny unknown clients
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<cdshan>
ok
12:12
<Gadi>
epsas: then specify host definitions
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<alkisg>
Gadi: he'd also have to modify the other dhcp servers...
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<Gadi>
unless he makes reservations in the other dhcp server to not respond to those
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<cdshan>
Gadi: there is no error message. It gives out the configuration parameters
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<artur0303>
hi, any doubts that I have for LTSP, just ask what is learned here?Is my first time in chat. Sorry for anything
12:20
<epsas>
Gadi - excellent - thanks!
12:20
<Gadi>
cdshan: and ps -ef|grep jetpipe
12:20
does not show it running?
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(on ctrl-alt-f2)
12:21
cdshan: type: hostname
12:21
at the client console
12:21
maybe it does not know its own hostname
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<ogra>
yeah, lts.conf should use the MAC
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<cdsha1>
Gadi: for ps -ef |grep jetpipe jetpipe is not shown
12:24
Gadi: for hostname is says ltsp
12:24
it should be accounts1
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<Gadi>
cdsha1: thats your problem
12:25
just change lts.conf to use MAC addresses
12:25
and you'll be fine
12:26
<stgraber>
hmm, that XDG thing for localapps menu doesn't seem to work here ... looks like I'll have some debug to do
12:26
<Gadi>
so: [aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff]
12:26
<ogra>
or take the pain and set up a DNS server :)
12:26
<cdsha1>
Is there any reason why this is happening?
12:26
<Gadi>
yes
12:27
<cdsha1>
Have I configured any thing wrong
12:27
<ogra>
yes :)
12:27
<Gadi>
yes
12:27
<cdsha1>
could you please tell me where I went wrong?
12:27
<Gadi>
cdsha1: you dont have anything setup to tell the thin client what its hostname is
12:27
<ogra>
by default ltsp doesnt use/setup a DNS server its a massive maintanance overhead ...
12:27
so using client names wont work
12:27
<Gadi>
yet you are configuring lts.conf by hostname
12:27
<ogra>
right
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<ogra>
the best way to use lts.conf on a per client base is the MAC address since that will definately be unique to the client
12:28
<cdsha1>
I have entries in the /etc/hosts file
12:28
should this be put into /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/hosts ?
12:28
<ogra>
then you need to copy /etc/hosts into your client chroot and run ltsp-update-image again
12:28
<artur0303>
Well, I have a LTSP closed.
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<artur0303>
I wonder how can I do to reconfigure or something to change the sound card, video card?Who can help? Thanks
12:29
<ogra>
but note that it might happen that your dhcp server doesnt give out the same ip all the time
12:29
<cdsha1>
in the dhcp i have configured using the mac address
12:29
<ogra>
so you need to set up your dhcp as well to match against MAC adresses if you want to be 100% sure such a thing doesnt happen
12:30
in any case its a massive maintanance overhead
12:30
<alkisg>
cdsha1: you could also put a hostname entry in dhcpd.conf, so that the pc with the printer always gets the same IP _and_ hostname.
12:30
<ogra>
so using MAC in lts.conf directly and go with the defaults in dhcp and hosts is easier
12:30
<cdsha1>
ok
12:31
<ogra>
everything else will force you to do maintenance in multiple places
12:33
<cdsha1>
what would be entry I will have to make in the dhcp.conf for hostname? would it be hostname ¨accounts1¨
12:33
?
12:33
<rjune>
!
12:33
!o
12:33
<ltspbot>
rjune: Error: "o" is not a valid command.
12:33
<rjune>
stupid bot
12:33
<ogra>
^
12:33
<rjune>
howdy ogra
12:33
<ogra>
§
12:33
hey rjune
12:34
<rjune>
What's new?
12:34* ogra guesses the snow that fell this afternoon is ...
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<alkisg>
cdsha1: something like: host ncd1 { hardware ethernet 0:c0:c3:49:2b:57; }
12:35
<ogra>
yes, it is, no yellow in it yet ... must be fairly new
12:35
<Gadi>
cdsha1 you need the : use-host-decls on;
12:35
option
12:36
for what alkisg suggests
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<cdsha1>
ok
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<alkisg>
cdsha1: and if you also want a static ip: host client { hardware ethernet 00:e0:4c:a7:ca:1e; fixed-address 192.168.0.6; }
12:37
(and what Gadi said)
12:37
<ogra>
alternatively hire Gadi for $$$$$$ to set it up for you *g*
12:37
<Gadi>
:P
12:38
<cdsha1>
=-O
12:38
is it use-host-decl-names on;
12:38
this is what i have in my old dhcpd.conf file on centos
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<stgraber>
Ryan52: any idea why ldm-dialog doesn't get its buttons translated ?
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<artur0303>
someone can help?
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<stgraber>
ok, XDG bug fixed, tagging a new upstream now
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<epsas>
weird - no sound on my thin clients after server rebooted
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<vagrantc>
stgraber: nice catch on the chown user/gid thing
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<alkisg>
Would anyone be interested in enabling DNSDOMAIN, NISDOMAIN, ROOTSERVER, ROOTPATH, and filename to be passed to the clients as kernel parameters? If IPAPPEND 3 is used in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default to bypass the second dhcp request, ipconfig then gets most *but not all* options from the kernel command line. ipconfig has lots of bugs and it doesn't work properly with 2 dhcp servers, so it would be handy if this alternative method was supp
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<stgraber>
vagrantc: yeah, I initialy planned to use getent to get both values, then saw that they were one next to the other and in the right order so :)
13:07* ogra wonders if alkisg's last sentence already braks the multiline paste rule :)
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<ogra>
*breaks
13:07
<alkisg>
Does it? I don't know... if it ends with three dots (...) then you see it all :)
13:07
<ogra>
nope, it doesnt
13:07
<cliebow>
i think we should forgive him 8~)
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<ogra>
:)
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<alkisg>
Forgive us newbies, we'll grow up eventually... :)
13:10
<stgraber>
and one new LTSP for Jaunty, fixing the installer and a few other things :)
13:10
<CAN-o-SPAM>
ogra: never heard from the HW guy ... any ideas?
13:10
<ogra>
yay
13:10
<stgraber>
vagrantc: 5.1.60 will be in Ubuntu soon, if you want to grab the orig.tar.gz
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<ogra>
CAN-o-SPAM, well, all i can say is that i forwarded it ... i'll ping him again
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
ogra: k thanks.
13:11
<ogra>
CAN-o-SPAM, he's not online, i guess he's still travelling back from the berlin sprint
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<ltsppbot>
"cdshan" pasted "cups error_log" (1069 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/241
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<pdjbarber>
can anyone help with increasiningthe volume on an kiwi-ltsp client...i need to make it louder
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
pdjbarber: did you try joining #kiwi-ltsp & @opensuse-kiwi?
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<pdjbarber>
didn't know there was one thanks
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<pcs0303>
Well, I have a LTSP closed. I wonder how can I do to reconfigure or something to change the sound card, video card,
13:38
because the system is accepting only access the server if the station is the same type of cardsWho can help?
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<sbalneav>
pcs0303: You would typically change these in the lts.conf file
13:46
See the documentation for details
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!docs
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<pcs0303>
thanks,I try and I get in touch.cya
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<vagrantc>
stgraber: you had tagged 5.1.59 right about the time i uploaded 5.1.58 to experimental ... and now you've got 5.1.60 already? :)
13:56
i'm so behind. :)
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<stgraber>
hehe :)
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<cdshan>
I tried chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get upgrade and got the following error message:
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Processing triggers for libc6 ...
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ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
14:10
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
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update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
14:10
Errors were encountered while processing:
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console-setup
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E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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<cdshan>
could someone tell me how to resolve it?
14:11
i guess I got it , I have not mounted the proc file system
14:11
sorry to have bothered you all
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<_UsUrPeR_>
cdshan: you need to have /proc bound to the chroot
14:23
waitaminute, just read last line :)
14:26* alkisg wonders why lilo gets installed if I do apt-get dist-upgrade in the chroot...
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<vagrantc>
stgraber: ah, you're able to upload to ubuntu directly now?
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<stgraber>
vagrantc: yep
15:31
vagrantc: and I usually also upload a backport to my PPA as it helps testers
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<staffencasa>
Ok, I've tried everything I can think of and I still can't get firefox to go fullscreen using the kiosk plugin, could someone please help me?
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<aglio2>
sbalneav: around?
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<Daemonik>
If I run ltsp-update-image to add small things (a config file in ~root/) to the image will this disrupt users running previous instances of the OS?
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<staffencasa>
the clients should be running a local copy of the image from memory, so it shouldn't.
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<Daemonik>
Suppose they want to load something they haven't previously loaded (tsclient instead of nxclient), as long as it's still in the filesystem contained by the image they should be fine?
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<epsas>
hrmmm
18:04
i am getting sh: /etc/rc.early_sysinit: No such file or directory when a thin-client tries booting from my new k12linux server
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<Daemonik>
ls /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ would be a good place to start.
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<epsas>
it is not there
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<Ryan52>
stgraber, oh, I'll fix it.
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<vagrantc>
whew.
19:02
i tracked down all the fonts needed to get LDM's language selector to display the translated languages for all the UTF-8 locales supported in debian.
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<Ryan52>
nice.
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<ltsppbot>
"vagrantc" pasted "font packages for debian language selection..." (16 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/242
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<vagrantc>
there's probably alternatives that would work for some languages, but that makes all the unicode boxes disappear.
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a lot of guesswork went into it ...
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off to get thrown around!
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<jammcq>
helloooo #ltsp
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:44
<aglio2>
sbalneav: howdy!
19:44
<sbalneav>
Hey jammcq!
19:44
<aglio2>
sbalneav: so, you want to come to SF?
19:44
<sbalneav>
Hello aglio2, or is that Josh?
19:44
<aglio2>
yeah
19:44
<sbalneav>
I r a gud gesser
19:45
Yes
19:45
SF sounds awesome
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<aglio2>
sbalneav: mind submitting a talk to OSW?
19:45
"thin clients on the cheap" or something of the like?
19:45
www.opensourceworld.com
19:45
<sbalneav>
okie
19:46
How soon do I need to do it? Is by Wednesday OK?
19:47
<aglio2>
sure
19:48
<sbalneav>
Super
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<Ryan52>
stgraber, now it's translatable, tho the button(s) don't grow to make the words fit..
19:59* Ryan52 will fix that
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<stgraber>
Ryan52: thanks
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<johnny___>
hello, care to remind me what should what ROOTSERVER defaults to?
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yes, i'm the other johnny, just at another location
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