IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 24 December 2017   (all times are UTC)

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17:48
<jeremies>
How to stop a thin client that has autologin activated?
17:49
<alkisg>
To power it off? From epoptes
17:49
Or from the menu, if you have a recent mate version
17:50
<jeremies>
Yes to power it off
17:50
From the menu of the client?
17:51
From the menu of the client it boots the client another time.
17:51
<alkisg>
Yes from the client menu. Are you using mate?
17:52
<jeremies>
Yes
17:53
<alkisg>
And you select poweroff and it reboots?
17:54
<jeremies>
The computer doesn't reboot in the sense to boot the bios but it shows a black screen and then it shows another time the desktop start screen of mate.
17:54
With epoptes it works
17:55
<alkisg>
OK. Some desktops were patched to do this for ltsp, it looks like the mate patch isn't there
17:55
So from the client you would need to call the epoptes logout/endsession script
17:55
E.g. make a desktop shortcut for it
17:56
<jeremies>
Ok. Thank you.
17:57
alkisg: do you know if having a desktop computer wake up all the time can make its life shorter ?
18:17
<alkisg>
jeremies: I don't know what "wake up all the time" means, as opposed to stand by?
18:17
No I don't think it can make its life shorter
18:18
<jeremies>
I mean idle
18:19
<alkisg>
idle is already woken up
18:19
It's not sleeping
18:21
<jeremies>
Yes
18:21
<alkisg>
I don't understand what you mean, tell it again using more words.
18:24
<jeremies>
With the computer powered on (that is the state when you can work with it) all the time, its life isn't shortened ?
18:26
<alkisg>
Well, it depends. There are servers running for 20 years without dying. So normally no, it shouldn't shorten its life.
18:27
Now if you have an SSD or an nvidia card working all the time etc they may be worn out after a lot of use
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20:46
<jeremies>
if you install a package with apt in a thin client the package gets installed in the image of the server?
20:49
<vagrantc>
what do you mean by "in a thin client" ?
20:50
on a thin client, all the software that the user interacts with is installed on the server
20:51
<jeremies>
but you can open a terminal and install a package
20:53
<vagrantc>
and if you're running a thin client, that terminal is running on the server
20:53
and so will install software on the server
20:53
think of a thin client as another mouse, monitor and keyboard for the server
20:54
that said, in general it's recommended to use ltsp fat clients these days, if your client hardware can support it
20:56
<jeremies>
but when you update the image that package will be removed, isn't it?
21:00
<vagrantc>
in a thin client, nothing gets installed on the thin client
21:00
it loads it's operating system from the image on the server
21:01
all applications, terminals, web browsers, software installation programs, run and operate on the server
21:01
so when you install software from a thin client, it's no different than installing it on the server
21:01
other thin clients will get the same software installed
21:02
and when you rebuild the image, you'll still connect to the same server with the same software installed
21:02
if you're running an ltsp fat client, it's different
21:03
now, if you're messing around with the LTSP chroot, that's another story
21:04
like i said earlier, think of a thin client as another mouse, monitor and keyboard for the server
21:06
if you're running a fat client, or running your terminal as a localapp, it's a different story
21:40
<jeremies>
ok. thank you
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