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Channel log from 29 December 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<vagrantc>
tagging ltsp-trunk 5.1.43 ....
01:13
is it possible to make a gtkrc that could use a different engine based on which is installed?
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<Alex_21>
How can I have something other than the standard install of Ubuntu displayed. I am making my own version of the disktop, and that is what I want displayed to users.
03:25
Please
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<Ryan52>
stgraber, if ldm-themes isn't a real package, but is only "Provided" by some packages, then you need your depends to look like this: ldm-ubuntu-themes | ldm-themes
04:04
(re: LP #299947)
04:16
stgraber, err, nevermind, my test case was wrong, you're right, and the reporter is confused, I think..:)
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<_UsUrPeR_>
:D
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<evilx_>
Morning
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<stgraber>
hey Gadi, I found a bug in /usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d/XS85-xserver-device-options but I'm not entirely sure of the fix
08:54
<Gadi>
do tell
08:54
<stgraber>
stgraber@castiana:~$ export X_DEVICE_OPTION_01="test"
08:54
stgraber@castiana:~$ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
08:54
awk: line 1: regular expression compile failed (missing operand)
08:54
^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=
08:54
<Gadi>
whenever you see awk, think vagrantc
08:55* Gadi dislikes using awk ;)
08:55
<stgraber>
yeah, unfortunately he lives in Portland :)
08:55
<evilx_>
hmm
08:55
<Gadi>
well, I can fix awk :)
08:55
<stgraber>
so won't be around for at least one more hour
08:55
<Gadi>
I just dont like using it
08:55
lemme see...
08:55
<stgraber>
env | awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
08:55
this one works
08:55
<evilx_>
I get a qweird thing now from nbd_server with Read failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
08:55
<stgraber>
but I'm not sure what I broke with this one
08:56
<evilx_>
It was working fine when I turned off the machine a week ago, now I come back and started it up and I get this in the log file
08:56
<stgraber>
Gadi: I basically removed the | from the original expression but I have no idea of what I broke
08:56
<Gadi>
ah - you just removed the |
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<Gadi>
hmm
08:57
the first one worked for me
08:57
export X_DEVICE_OPTION_01="test"
08:57
$ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
08:57
test
09:00
stgraber: you cannot remove the |
09:00
it is basically a logical OR between nothing and DEVICE_
09:01* Gadi does not know why it fails for you
09:04
<evilx_>
can anyone think of a reason why I would be getting this nbd error?
09:13
<stgraber>
Gadi: ok, but why does it fail here :)
09:14
Gadi: doing exactly the same here fails
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<Gadi>
stgraber: does this work?
09:47
env | awk -F = '/^X(_|_DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
09:54
<rjune>
!g
09:54
<ltspbot>
rjune: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:55
<evilx_>
can I specify the nbdip ?
09:55
on the init line?
09:55
<Gadi>
hey, rjune
09:56
evilx_: I believe you can specify: nbdroot=
09:56
as in: nbdroot=<ip:port>
09:56
<evilx_>
hmm
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<evilx_>
hmm
09:58
basically since it a img file
09:59
I think it might of gotten it this time
10:00
it failed again
10:00
it load up x and stuff, but it get a failed
10:01
<Gadi>
bad image?
10:01
<evilx_>
no it was working fine
10:01
but now it get Read failed: inappropriate ioctl for device
10:01
<Gadi>
try: sudo pkill -f nbd
10:01
and reboot the client
10:01
(provided it is the only client
10:02
<evilx_>
at the moment
10:02* alkisg thinks the awk line is more readable with "?" (=zero or one time): env | awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
10:02
<evilx_>
back at Loading Hardware drivers... and is taking it time
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10:03
<evilx_>
did it again
10:03
Received control failed
10:03
Error : ioctl/1.1a failed: bad file descriptor
10:03
<Gadi>
real thin client or virtual?
10:04
<evilx_>
thin client
10:04
was just working
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<evilx_>
hold on, I am going to setup a virtual in vmware
10:06
to capture what it says
10:07
<Gadi>
seems others have reported the same problem with no resolution
10:08
<evilx_>
I might need to switch nbd to nfs
10:08
it was working great until I moved it on to a live network
10:09
and flipped off the dhcpd server and switched settings on the other
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<Gadi>
hmm
10:10
do you have dhcp server issues?
10:15
<evilx_>
not at the moment
10:15
sorry rebooted my desktop
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<evilx_>
hmm
10:20
some thing from pxe boot on vmware
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HMM
10:30
ops caplock on
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<stgraber>
Gadi: it doesn't give me an error but doesn't output anything either :)
10:34
vagrantc: your awk is broken :)
10:34
stgraber@castiana:~$ export X_DEVICE_OPTION="test"
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stgraber@castiana:~$ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
10:34
awk: line 1: regular expression compile failed (missing operand)
10:34
^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=
10:35
vagrantc: ^
10:35
<vagrantc>
huh
10:35
worked when i did it
10:35
<stgraber>
well, it seems to work in some cases (seems to work for Gadi) but it fails here and on my thin clients
10:35
<vagrantc>
stgraber: your test is broken :)
10:36
stgraber: try with X_DEVICE_OPTION_01
10:36
<stgraber>
stgraber@castiana:~$ export X_DEVICE_OPTION_01="test"
10:36
stgraber@castiana:~$ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
10:36
awk: line 1: regular expression compile failed (missing operand)
10:36
^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=
10:37
<vagrantc>
totally works here.
10:38
stgraber: ls -l /etc/alternatives/awk
10:38
<stgraber>
mawk
10:38
<vagrantc>
appears i've relied on gawk-isms
10:38
<Gadi>
stgraber: try:
10:38
<vagrantc>
hrm.
10:39
<Gadi>
env | awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
10:39
<stgraber>
vagrantc: well, my laptop was reinstalled recently so I guess mawk is the default
10:39
<Gadi>
as per alkisg suggestion
10:39
<alkisg>
stgraber, I didn't read all the last lines, but in export X_DEVICE_OPTION="test" the digits are missing
10:39
e.g. OPTION01
10:40
<vagrantc>
stgraber: yes, well, if we call "awk" it should be compatible with all the possible awk's
10:40
<alkisg>
OPTION_01
10:40
<stgraber>
alkisg: yeah, my test are now with _01
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<stgraber>
vagrantc: ok, works with this one, I got "test" back which is good
10:41
<vagrantc>
i wonder what other awk's we might have to support
10:41* Gadi thinks mawk doesnt like (|blah)
10:41
<Gadi>
as in nothing or blah
10:42
but it is fine with 0|1
10:42
<alkisg>
Try another extra parenthesis: ((0[1-9])|10)
10:43
<stgraber>
vagrantc: will you commit the fix or should I ?
10:43
vagrantc: I plan on retagging just after that as I don't really want the broken awk in Jaunty :)
10:44
<evilx_>
Gadi: i just ran ltsp-build-client
10:44
and i get stuff like debconfi: unable to initalize frontend: Passthrough
10:44
is that normal? it looks like it doing that for all server stuff
10:45
<vagrantc>
stgraber: go ahead and commit it
10:45
stgraber: although i've been meaning to get a coupel other things in quick...
10:46
stgraber: like 099-mount-cdrom that we both appear to be using ...
10:46
even though it's kind of ugly, it's stilly to ship a separate copy
10:48
stgraber: and note that i added that awk call in multiple places ...
10:49
couldn't figure out how to make a simple function out of it...
10:50
oh, i guess the others aren't affected by that issue
10:50
<stgraber>
vagrantc: well, I'm doing some other stuff at the same time so if you're going to commit something else, just go ahead.
10:50
<evilx_>
I cant figure out why it getting these bad file descriptor
10:51
and why it shows nbi.img when it should show i386.img
10:51
for the nbdroot
10:52
<vagrantc>
stgraber: alright, i'll commit the gawk-ism fix and a couple other things
10:53
stgraber: pushing the changes i have ready now ...
10:54
was also hoping to kill off http://bugs.debian.org/483760 (the hostname generation thingy)
10:56
<evilx_>
can someone explain to my why nfbserver says assiend file i386.img but the pxe says rootserver: 192.168.1.245 rootpath: /opt/ltsp/i386 filename : ltsp/i386/nbi.img
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<evilx_>
http://evilx.devel.ws/pxe.JPG
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<alkisg>
evilx_: that's normal, the pxe filename is used for loading the initramfs, while the nbd filename is the virtual client hard disk. Different filenames, both are used.
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<alkisg>
What's your actual problem, other than the "bad descriptor" warning? (which I also get and everything else works fine:?)
10:59
<evilx_>
dont know
10:59
x boots up but it wont login
11:00
<alkisg>
What's the error message?
11:00
If you try to login, I mean
11:00
<evilx_>
times out
11:00
<alkisg>
...from the console :)
11:00
ssh -l yourusername server
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<evilx_>
YEAH
11:00
i know this
11:00
but i shouldnt need to do that
11:00
<alkisg>
I know, it's just for troubleshooting
11:01
<evilx_>
i also switched the root password and rebuild the image
11:01
wont let me login with root
11:01
<alkisg>
You should also unlock the root account
11:01
<evilx_>
says your account has expired
11:01
<alkisg>
chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd -u root
11:01
or something like that
11:02
<evilx_>
i did that
11:02
<alkisg>
You did passwd -u?
11:02
<evilx_>
then says Your account has expired; please contact your system admin\r\n\\n Authentication failure
11:02
<alkisg>
Or just passwd?
11:02
<evilx_>
ill retry
11:02
dont think i added the -u
11:03
ok it unlocked now
11:03
rebuilding the image
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<evilx_>
ok
11:05
that works now
11:06
<alkisg>
You mean you can login from the GUI, or from the console?
11:06
<evilx_>
once again it works if i ssh in
11:06
but i cant ssh 40 machines in all the time like that i need it to not do that
11:06
<alkisg>
OK, what message does it give when you ssh?
11:07
<evilx_>
nothing
11:07
plus you cant do -l
11:07
just doing ssh user@ip and type in the password
11:07
then go back to F7 window and login and it goes fine
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<alkisg>
OK... but it doesn't even echo a hint or a warning?
11:07
<evilx_>
no warning no thing
11:07
\whaty hint
11:08
<alkisg>
Like, "added the key for the server ..."
11:08
<evilx_>
it said that
11:08
i think
11:08
hold on
11:08
<alkisg>
It shouldn't say that
11:08
<evilx_>
i think it went straight to password
11:08
nah nothing about the key
11:08
that was fine
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<alkisg>
It only shows that the first time, you have to reboot to see it
11:09
(the client)
11:09
Or press Shift+Page Up
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<evilx_>
i just rebooted it
11:11
sweet it verifed this time
11:12
<alkisg>
You mean straight from the gui, no console?
11:12
<evilx_>
it working now for some reason
11:12
now time to add all these users accounts
11:12
<alkisg>
OK... try a different client then
11:12
<evilx_>
and see if i can get it to run 40 thin clients
11:13
<alkisg>
You may add 40 accounts with a script, and use autologin if all you need is testing
11:14
<evilx_>
cant do auto login
11:25
<Gadi>
vagrantc: u are missing a question mark in your awk fix
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: ??
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<Gadi>
you have: env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
11:26
you need: env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
11:26
otherwise you don't catch X_OPTION_01
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: egads, you're right!
11:28
when will my mistakes end?!
11:28* vagrantc smiles
11:28
<Gadi>
"Gadi" not "egads"
11:28
:)
11:28
u and ur typos
11:29
<vagrantc>
i get all gung-ho to clean up Gadi's code and make a fool of myself for being sloppy :)
11:29* Gadi hands vagrantc the membership card to the exclusive club of slobs
11:30
<vagrantc>
if [ -n "$(env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}')" ]; then
11:30
that look good?
11:30
<evilx_>
hmm is there away to install x11vnc on the client?
11:30
<Gadi>
still no qu mark
11:30
<vagrantc>
no!
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<vagrantc>
the answer is NO!
11:30
if [ -n "$(env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}')" ]; then
11:30
how about that?
11:30* vagrantc sneaks in an easter egg
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<vagrantc>
pushing
11:32
<alkisg>
evilx_: have a look at italc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc
11:33
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i'm messing around with you hostname setting FOO
11:33
echo "10.2.2.100.255.255.255.0" | mawk -F "." '{ print "ltsp"(($1%(256-$5)*256+$2%(256-$6))*256+$3%(256-$7))*256+$4%(256-$8) }'
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it starts spitting out really weird results with unusual netmasks
11:35
well, just very long numbers
11:35
<alkisg>
vagrantc, gimme an example...
11:35
<vagrantc>
echo "10.2.2.200.255.0.0.0" | mawk -F "." '{ print "ltsp"(($1%(256-$5)*256+$2%(256-$6))*256+$3%(256-$7))*256+$4%(256-$8) }'
11:35
i haven't tried with the initramfs's awk yet ...
11:35
<alkisg>
Yeap, you have 255*255*255 different clients with that netmask...
11:36
brb
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<vagrantc>
ah, so it's simply the number of clients in the given network, uniquely assigned?
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<alkisg>
yeap
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<vagrantc>
and the number is predictable?
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<alkisg>
Sure, the lowest IP is ltsp0, the next ltsp1, the next ltsp2 etc
11:39
So in a simple example, 192.168.192.101/24 gives ltsp101
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While 192.168.10.101/16 gives ltsp(256*10 + 101)
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<evilx_>
where can i find the x11vnc script for the client machien?
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<stgraber>
vagrantc: any other change you may want to push to ltsp-trunk before tagging ?
12:25
<vagrantc>
stgraber: i've basically got a script to fix 483760 ...
12:26
only thing i need to know is if ":"s are acceptible in hostnames
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<vagrantc>
stgraber: hrm. maybe i don't have it working...
12:40
ah, forgot to chmod +x the script ...
12:41
<evilx_>
here something strange, i have one thin client that error on xorg, says unable to locate/open config file, but these newer thin clients work fine
12:42
where is it loading the config at?
12:45
<vagrantc>
stgraber: got it working! will push...
12:46
<alkisg>
vagrantc: can we have a glimpse?
12:48
<evilx_>
alkisg: question, how come when I modify lts.conf for that mac it never created a new thing in pxelinux.cfg for that mac?
12:49
<alkisg>
evilx_: huh? could you rephrase that? English in not my native language... Nothing gets autocreated in pxelinux.cfg/...
12:50
<evilx_>
ok, I am specifying one machine in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf with [mac.adddress] but it doesnt change nothing it seem, it seem like it keep doing default for that one mac
12:51
<alkisg>
You could try logging into the client, and running: getltscfg X_MODE_0 or whatever else you've set
12:51
<evilx_>
ok
12:51
<ltsppbot>
"vagrantc" pasted "unique hostnames from initramfs" (26 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/152
12:52
<vagrantc>
that took way to long to get right
12:52
alkisg: and you did 95% of the heavy work on that!
12:52
<evilx_>
so it does set it
12:52
ok
12:53
<alkisg>
vagrantc, shouldn't either of them be the default?
12:54
<vagrantc>
alkisg: hmmm... maybe so, huh.
12:54
<alkisg>
I can't think of any reason why "ltsp" would be better than either of them...
12:54
<vagrantc>
probably the ip one
12:54
as mac addresses just look too ugly
12:54
<alkisg>
Whatever, my opinion is biased, I can't say! :)
12:55
But with the default dhcpd.conf, the hostnames would be ltsp123, which looks fine! :P :D
13:00
<vagrantc>
yeah. slight re-write, testing now...
13:01
<alkisg>
So if ip is the default, one should set HOSTNAME_EXTRA="" to get the previous behaviour (=plain "ltsp"). Hmm... I don't think it's too bad.
13:03
<evilx_>
here the issue, some reason there is no via driver in xorg
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<alkisg>
vagrantc, I think you could also use HOSTNAME="ltsp$mac" or HOSTNAME="ltsp$ip" with the latter being the default, to make it simpler and more extensible... And put a simple eval on the script to substitute $mac and/or $ip.
13:06
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i don't see how that's more flexible than what's there now
13:06
makes it harder to set it to foo$mac
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: it only uses one variable, and it makes it possible to have names like 123ltsp or ltsp123departmenta
13:07
<ltsppbot>
"vagrantc" pasted "updated unique-hostname stuff" (26 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/153
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<alkisg>
(variable => lts.conf variable)
13:07
<vagrantc>
alkisg: sure, i guess.
13:08
i'll push this, and we can improve upon it later.
13:08
<alkisg>
vagrantc, I'm fine with that, so do whatever you like, I'm just suggesting... :)
13:09
<Gadi>
why not just put HOSTNAME_BASE after getltscfg
13:09
and do: [ -z "$HOSTNAME_BASE" ] && HOSTNAME_BASE="ltsp"
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: it's about the same effect
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<alkisg>
Gadi: vagrantc has it better, it allows for null HOSTNAME_BASE
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(i.e. one may want hostname="123")
13:11
<Gadi>
how does what he pasted allow for null?
13:11
HOSTNAME_BASE="ltsp"
13:11
thats all I see
13:11
<vagrantc>
Gadi: set HOSTNAME_BASE= in lts.conf ?
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<alkisg>
Well, if I specify HOSTNAME_BASE="" in lts.conf, I get null base
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<Gadi>
ah
13:12
gotcha
13:12
<vagrantc>
presuming that works...
13:12
<alkisg>
heh
13:12
<Gadi>
that wont work, tho
13:12
getltscfg will ignore empty params
13:12
sorry, charlie
13:12
:)
13:13
<vagrantc>
HOSTNAME_BASE="" works
13:13
<Gadi>
u sure?
13:13
it shouldnt
13:13
<vagrantc>
it just did
13:13
<Gadi>
ah, ok
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<vagrantc>
since this script is run late in the process, i was able to do getltscfg from the NBD/NFS mount, and everything should go according to plan
13:20
stgraber: there's one more commit, though it would cause a regression for you ... being able to specify dhcpport=NNNN
13:20
stgraber: from initramfs-tools
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er, from the boot prompt
13:21
stgraber: though i have patches to get it into initramfs-tools, which is really where that should be fixed:
13:21
stgraber: http://bugs.debian.org/509077
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13:55
<evilx_>
hmm i get cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devicdes
13:55
anyway to disable fb in ltsp.conf
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<alkisg>
The file /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf is part of ltsp-server-standalone, right? Why isn't a "better" dhcpd.conf provided, e.g. with option gpxe.priority 1, which would avoid some common problems?
13:56
<evilx_>
isnt t here X_OPTION_XX soemthing
13:56
<alkisg>
!lts.conf | evilx_
13:56
<ltspbot>
alkisg: Error: "lts.conf" is not a valid command.
13:56
<alkisg>
!lts.conf
13:56
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
13:57
<evilx_>
thank you, ill look this over
14:04
the dock says there a via driver to, but I cant find it no where
14:04
doc*
14:05
that the issue I am having, ive tried openchrome,vga,vesa but no luck with this via chipset
14:05
and I cant find a via driver anywhere
14:05
<vagrantc>
alkisg: probably because nobody has proposed or demonstrated a better dhcpd.conf? :P
14:05
<evilx_>
the video card is VT8623 [ Apollo CLE266 ]
14:06
<ltsppbot>
"alkisg" pasted "A "stealthy" dhcpd.conf" (35 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/154
14:07
<alkisg>
vagrantc: well, here's mine... I may try to propose a more general-purpose one, if anyone's interested
14:07
<evilx_>
!via
14:07
<ltspbot>
evilx_: Error: "via" is not a valid command.
14:08
<Gadi>
Ryan52: how hard would it be for you to add a "--list" option to ldm-dialog?
14:11
evilx_: it uses openchrome
14:11
in newer ubuntu's
14:12
alkisg: you give etherboot clients a PXE image instead of nbi
14:12
and no nbi to be seen
14:12
surely, this is not general purpose
14:12
:)
14:12
I think Fedora has the most general purpose one atm
14:13
<alkisg>
Gadi: yes, in Greece there aren't any real hw thin clients... :)
14:13
<Gadi>
:)
14:13
<alkisg>
But option gpxe.priority 1 does no harm
14:13
<evilx_>
i tried openchrome and it didnt work
14:14
<Gadi>
fair enough - personally, I had not even heard of that option before
14:14
evilx_: why not?
14:14
<evilx_>
let me get the xorg file
14:14
<Gadi>
the log file is more important
14:14
it tells you why it doesnt work
14:14
:)
14:14
<evilx_>
that what i ment
14:15
hold on rebuilding the image
14:15
<Gadi>
crap. I use zenity for too many things
14:16
<evilx_>
hold on rebooting that machine now
14:18
it boots the ubuntu framebuffer thing and then it goes to xauth and does nothing, waiting for it to finish so I can grab the xorg log
14:20
<Gadi>
evilx_: is it going through a KVM switch?
14:20
<evilx_>
http://pastebin.com/m2bdc8d71
14:20
nah the thin client sitting 10ft away
14:20
and the server right here
14:21
and the other thin client works and so does my vmware netboot
14:21
just not that one with that via chipset
14:21
it just a black screen
14:21
I dont see why, and i dont see really an error in xorg log for openchrome
14:21
<Gadi>
do you have any config file at all?
14:22
<evilx_>
nah work fine on these other machiens
14:22
it just that via video chipset one that acting up
14:22
<Gadi>
at the shell of the via client, do: X :10 -configure
14:22
then paste Xorg.10.log
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<evilx_>
ok
14:24
see it wont let me switch screens either once it does this
14:24
i found an old xorg config someone had on the old system
14:24
let me try that one
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<Gadi>
also try going into the BIOS and disabling ACPI and increasing the VGA apeture to >=32MB
14:25
<evilx_>
ill look at that to
14:25
<Gadi>
openchrome really doesnt like less than 32MB
14:26
<warren>
Gadi: Fedora is general purpose?
14:26
<evilx_>
just upped the vga memory
14:26
<Gadi>
warren: not so?
14:27
<warren>
what do you mean?
14:27
<Gadi>
I mean I think you have the most comprehensive dhcpd.conf
14:27
what with all the etherboots and yaboots and whatnot
14:28
<evilx_>
nah that didnt work, let me try this config
14:30
<warren>
Gadi: I would add more if I had more hardware to test
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<Gadi>
warren: do you have gpxe options in there?
14:37
<evilx_>
that didnt work either.
14:38
<alkisg>
warren: could you please put the default fedora dhcpd.conf into pastebot? Gadi got me all curious... :)
14:46
<Ryan52>
Gadi: which equivalent of zenity do you need? (it appears there are lots of options..)
14:46
<Gadi>
hehe, yeah
14:46
I find I use --list, --text, a whole bunch
14:46
:(
14:47
stupid swiss army knife
14:47
I was going to systematically convert everything to ldm-dialog
14:48
but then I found things like: zenity --progress --text="Searching for server..." --pulsate --auto-c
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lose
14:48
and
14:48
PICK_SERVERS=$(zenity --list --text="Choose an application s
14:48
erver:" --column="" --column="Server" --radiolist --print-column=ALL $CHOICES)
14:49
*sigh*
14:51
<alkisg>
Gadi: wow, thanks for that!!!
14:51
<Gadi>
hehe
14:51
sorry
14:52
<alkisg>
..and I was looking to convert all my scripts to pygtk... !
14:52
<warren>
Gadi: no
14:52
Gadi: I have no gpxe capable hardware
14:54
<Ryan52>
Gadi, ok, I guess I'll implement it...sometime in the next week or so..
14:55
<Gadi>
Ryan52: great if you do, dont sweat it if not
14:55
I seem to use --entry, as well
14:55
<Ryan52>
ok
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<_UsUrPeR_>
hey all
14:56
having a problem with F10
14:57* warren wonders if ltsp-trunk is ready for tagging again?
14:57
<_UsUrPeR_>
I get to the user login screen on a client, type the username and password, then it says "no response from server, restarting"
14:57
I know the u/p are correct
14:57
what would cause this?
14:57
<warren>
_UsUrPeR_: check /var/log/secure on the server
14:57
<_UsUrPeR_>
also, update-ssh-keys has been done
14:57
<warren>
_UsUrPeR_: is it actually a successful login?
14:58
<evilx_>
how do i get it to not load x ?
14:58
i got it
14:59
<_UsUrPeR_>
warren: nothing in /var/log/secure
14:59
no attempts logged
14:59
<warren>
_UsUrPeR_: then it isn't even connecting to the ssh server
15:00
Gadi: how important are the post ltsp-5.1.43 changes?
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15:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
warren: after "yum install ltsp-server" ssh does not start on boot?
15:02
<Gadi>
warren: does fedora ship gawk or mawk?
15:02
<warren>
Gadi: gawk, never heard of mawk.
15:03
<Gadi>
then, they are not important
15:03
*very*
15:03
<stgraber>
warren: I'll need to tag today too
15:03
warren: I'm having a look at ltsp-trunk now
15:03
<evilx_>
i told it SCREEN_07=shell and it still booted x
15:03
<warren>
I last built ltsp-5.1.42
15:03
how important are the .43 changes?
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<jammcq>
helloooooo
15:04
<warren>
evilx_: what distro?
15:04
<evilx_>
ubuntu
15:04
<warren>
jammcq: hey, news says people in MI without power?
15:04
<stgraber>
warren: do you have anything to commit or can I tag now ?
15:04
<warren>
I'm afraid of commitment. =)
15:04
<jammcq>
warren: yeah, lots of wind yesterday knocked out alot of power
15:05
<warren>
stgraber: I'm doing a qiuck review of all changes
15:06
<stgraber>
warren: ok
15:06
<_UsUrPeR_>
jammcq: 65 mph at my parent's house in Jackson. It blew out a sliding door
15:06
<evilx_>
rebuilding an image takes to long on a tricore
15:06
<jammcq>
_UsUrPeR_: wow
15:07
somehow, I slept through it all
15:07
<warren>
Gadi: these changes should work fine with gawk right?
15:07
<_UsUrPeR_>
same here. I guess my wife was up every 10 minutes.
15:07
<warren>
if [ -n "$(env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}')" ]; then
15:07
isn't the delimiter after -F supposed to be immediately after F?
15:07
or doens't matter
15:09
<Gadi>
doesnt matter
15:09
should work fine
15:09
tested on gawk and mawk
15:10
<warren>
ok, go ahead and tag if you want
15:10
stgraber: ^
15:11
<evilx_>
was an error in on config
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<evilx_>
Gadi: X :10 -configure just gives a blank screen and that it
15:12
<Gadi>
does it return to command prompt?
15:12
<evilx_>
nio
15:12
no
15:12
<Gadi>
sounds like you have a buggy bios
15:12
try setting:
15:13
X_OPTION_01 = "\"VBEModes\" \"true\""
15:13
<evilx_>
ok, retesting this openchrome real quick and then ill do that
15:13
<Gadi>
for that client
15:13
or, reboot the client to a shell and try to ddcprobe it
15:14
my guess is the BIOS is causing issues
15:14
(you may also want to upgrade the BIOS if possible)
15:16
<evilx_>
having a hard time just finding the specs on hp.com website
15:16
testing this VBEMode right now
15:18
dang no go
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ok, so after making sure the network settings were correct in F10, here is what I am seeing in /var/log/secure: "localhost sshd[2581]: Connection closed by 10.1.1.101"
15:27
10.1.1.101 = client IP
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<alkisg>
stgraber, you scared all the people away... :P
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16:11
<davidj>
Gadi: You here?
16:11* Gadi pinches himself
16:12* Gadi can hardly believe it himself
16:13
<davidj>
Gadi: How are you?
16:13
<Gadi>
tanks Gott
16:13
and you?
16:13
hows your foot?
16:13
dancing yet?
16:13
<davidj>
I'm doing very well, thank God.
16:14
Not quite, but my foot is healing very well.
16:14
<Gadi>
thats good to hear
16:14
<davidj>
The boot is off, and now I'm stretching and doing PT on my own.
16:14* Gadi was thinking of you - what with all the ice
16:14
<Gadi>
;)
16:14
<davidj>
No ice here, it's 60F and sunny.
16:14
<Gadi>
pfft
16:15
<davidj>
A local radio station puts up an outdoor skating rink every winter, my wife took the kids earlier.
16:16
She just called to say that it's not as much fun at 60.
16:16
;-)
16:16
I have a question that only you, of all of the thousands of people I know, might be able to answer.
16:16
<Gadi>
uh oh
16:16
<davidj>
It's entirely off topic, and not particularly interesting.
16:17
Just curious.
16:17* Gadi puts on Jeopardy hat
16:17
<Gadi>
do I answer in the form of a question?
16:17
<davidj>
Please, and in Greek.
16:17
<Gadi>
uh oh
16:17
<davidj>
I bought some vegetable stock yesterday.
16:17* Gadi looks towards alkisg
16:17
<Gadi>
;)
16:18
ok
16:18
<alkisg>
Αγόρασε κανένας λαχανικά;
16:18
<davidj>
After I left the store, I noticed that it had a "Parve" logo on it (looks like a backwards K, sort of).
16:18
<alkisg>
:P
16:18
<Gadi>
hehe
16:18* Gadi takes herbology for 200
16:18
<Gadi>
:)
16:19
<davidj>
Alorase kanenas lakhanaika? What's THAT mean?
16:19
<Gadi>
crap
16:19
<alkisg>
I read something about vegetables above and I asked ... :P :D
16:19
<Gadi>
I thought I would know the answer
16:19
but thats greek to me
16:19
:)
16:19
I know about the parve and backwards K, tho
16:19
:)
16:20
is your qu what it means?
16:20
<davidj>
On the side, it said "This product produced on shared equipment that processes tree nuts, shellfish, dairy and pork"
16:20
I don't get it.
16:20
<Gadi>
ah
16:20
well, thats a legal disclaimer
16:21
that they prolly have on all products
16:21
<davidj>
Is this like whatsamadoddle's kosher bacon-wrapped scallops?
16:21
<Gadi>
but, I can tell you for sure, it was not made on equipment with shellfish, dairy, or pork ;)
16:21
<davidj>
heheheh
16:21
<Gadi>
cannot account for the nuts
16:21
:D
16:22
<davidj>
The "shared equipment" bit was in the alergy disclaimer section
16:22
<Gadi>
yeah
16:22
all it takes is one lawsuit
16:22
;)
16:22
<davidj>
I told a friend about the scallops, now he makes a habit of asking butchers for the kosher pork chops.
16:23
<Gadi>
lol
16:23
as long as the rabbi blesses it, right?
16:24* Gadi regrets at times that nubae logs this channel
16:24
<Gadi>
*sigh*
16:25
<alkisg>
He should have an <offtopic> tag that doesn't get logged...
16:25
<Gadi>
we all should
16:25
along with an Easy button
16:26
<alkisg>
The bot, I mean :)
16:26
<Gadi>
and multiple things on the Clapper
16:26
oh
16:26
yeah... me too...
16:26
;)
16:32
<davidj>
Talk to you later...
16:32
<Gadi>
ciao
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<Ahmuck>
heh, there is no such thing as kosher port chops
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17:52* stgraber is trying to build an openvz kernel on ia64 ... we have two of these itanium beasts around that only need a working openvz to be used :)
18:11
<warren>
stgraber: you tagging?
18:15
<stgraber>
warren: yep
18:18
done
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18:45
<stgraber>
warren: do you happen to know what's the gcc version used to build the kernel currently in rhel5 ?
18:53
4.2 failed to build RHEL's kernel (well a RHEL5-like kernel), trying with 4.1 now
18:56
<warren>
stgraber: gcc version 4.1.2 20071124 (Red Hat 4.1.2-42)
18:56
stgraber: we skipped 4.2 and went straight to 4.3
18:56
stgraber: soon 4.4
18:57
<stgraber>
good, I'm using 4.1.2 from Ubuntu and it seems to be building correctly
18:57
looks like openvz upstream only maintains the itanium support for the old 2.6.18 ...
18:58
will be a bit weird to run a 2.6.18 on hardy (which usually comes with 2.6.24) ... but well at least I'll have openvz working :)
18:58
<warren>
why don't you use xen on the itanium?
18:59
<stgraber>
openvz gives you way better performances usually as it's using the same kernel as the host (containing vs virtualisatioon)
19:00
<warren>
stgraber: we have experimental containers with the standard upstream kernel using selinux for context isolation
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<warren>
it isn't a standard feature because it isn't a priority
19:01
<stgraber>
oh, I'll need to look at that then
19:01
<warren>
stgraber: nah, takes too much work
19:01
more of a future feature
19:02
stgraber: plus, the selinux support in ubuntu is a half-assed after thought
19:02
<stgraber>
well, part of the context stuff is also going directly upstream, I saw that we have the cgroups thing that may be used for ressource allocation but haven't had a real look at that as it's really far from user-friendly :)
19:03
<warren>
stgraber: selinux based containers require no further upstream stuff
19:03
it is only creative use of policies
19:03
<stgraber>
sounds hackish :)
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<petre>
warren, ping
19:07
<warren>
petre: pong
19:07
<petre>
warren, http://peterscheie.fedorapeople.org/k12linux/quick-start-guide/k12linux-quick-start-guide-0.0.8-1.fc9.src.rpm
19:08
<warren>
petre: my F10 system seems incapable of making a F9 livecd
19:08
petre: due to selinux differences
19:08
<petre>
brb
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19:11
<warren>
petre: did you request the CVS module creation and begin importing your package
19:12
<petre>
warren, I don't think so; it's been a few days & don't recall where I left off
19:12
I think that was the next step
19:17
warren, do I post the CVS request to the bugzilla case for the package?
19:18
<warren>
petre: yes, the page describes exactly what to do
19:19
bbiab
19:19
<petre>
yeah, I'm reading it, but it's a little vague about some things
19:24
warren, what's a 'FAS username'?
19:30
warren, nm
19:55
<stgraber>
oh, I just noticed that these ia64 can actually run some x86 32bit code, fun :)
20:29
<warren>
stgraber: incredibly poorly, but yes.
20:31
petre: you forgot to set the fedora-cvs flag to ?
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<cib0>
hello
21:52
does anyone know about a tutorial on how to get vnc get to work with ltsp?
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<petre>
warren, did you set the cvs-flag = ?
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22:45
<alkisg>
How can I use ltsp trunk in my laptop, for testing?
22:48
<Ryan52>
you might be able to get away with: ./configure && make && make install
22:48
altho I usually just build packages out of it, and install them...what distro are you using?
22:48
<warren>
Ryan52: configure make make install wont work for ltsp
22:49
<Ryan52>
oh. that's why I said might :)
22:50
warren, why not?
22:50
I'd assume you could just do that on the host and in the chroot..
22:50
<alkisg>
Ehm... could you start with the basics? I.e. branch the trunk locally?
22:50
:)
22:51
<Ryan52>
alkisg, ya, but only if you tell me what distro you're on ;)
22:51
(the packagers keep it in separate repos)
22:51
<alkisg>
Sure, Intrepid
22:51
<warren>
Ryan52: ltsp-trunk lacks configure?
22:51
<Ryan52>
heh. oh.
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22:57
<johnny>
ltsp-trunk is just scripts
22:57
copy server into /usr/share
22:57
/usr/share/ltsp
22:57
<alkisg>
johnny: so bzr branch lp:~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk, two hardlinks and that's it?
22:58
<johnny>
http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/ltsp.git;a=blob_plain;f=net-misc/ltsp-client/ltsp-client-9999.ebuild;hb=HEAD
22:58
take a look at that
22:58
in src_install
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<johnny>
and read insinto as cd dir and doins as cp to that same dir
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and dobin/dosbin as copying it into /usr/sbin or /usr/bin
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<alkisg>
johnny: thanks, digging...
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<johnny>
in src_compile.. that'll give you the idea of the two things that must be compiled
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<Ryan52>
alkisg, or, if you figure out where they keep their packaging...you can just check it out into debian, run "debuild", and then "dpkg -i" the produced ../*.deb...
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<johnny>
alkisg, if you just want trunk..
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on ubuntu
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check out stgraber's ppa
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mine just gives a simpler overview of how the package is assembled .. simpler than deb package format anyways
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<alkisg>
Oh... anyway, I do want to see the inner details, so I might as well try all ways :)
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