IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 5 March 2017   (all times are UTC)

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07:54
<alkisg>
Good morning
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11:23
<ZAJDAN>
hello people
11:25
alkisg: barcode reader on thin/fat client should not be a problem? I think that the behaviour of the reader is same as keybord
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11:57
<alkisg>
ZAJDAN: on fat => ok, on thin => problem
11:57
bbl
12:06
<ZAJDAN>
ughrrrr...It is a great pity :(
12:07
and do you have experience FAT client connected to RDP(to windows) --- barcode reader
12:07
if the reader works through the rdp
12:08
because applications which processes the data runs on windows and I will be connected from FAT(linux) via RDP to the win station
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14:40
<alkisg>
ZAJDAN: rdp usb forwarding is more easily done than thin client usb port forwarding
14:40
And, when you run SCREEN_07="xfreerdp", then all clients are like fat, there's no thin
14:40
Because xfreerdp runs locally on the client, not on the server
14:41
So you should be fine in all cases
14:43
I thought you had 4 computers at home though, where do you need barcodes?!
14:45
<ZAJDAN>
I want to also use ltsp at work and two stations has barcode reader
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15:30
<ZAJDAN>
alkisg: how was the option for the Thin client about the freerdp?..please
15:31
<alkisg>
SCREEN_07="xfreerdp params"
15:31
<ZAJDAN>
I am on web irc and after reboot browser flush chat session
15:31
thnx
15:31
<alkisg>
Find the correct xfreerdp command from a fat client before you put it to lts.conf
15:32
<ZAJDAN>
i would like to use remmina
15:32
and remmina use what I know freerdp
15:32
as engine
15:33
could be "remmina -c /path/to_session_config/something.remmina"
15:37
do you mean common command which is used to establish rdp connection?
15:49
I tried: SCREEN_07="remmina -c /home/operator-2/.remmina/rdp_session.remmina" client after boot says, that the script was not found
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15:50
<ZAJDAN>
when this command I put into startup applications....it runs good
16:01
<alkisg>
SCREEN_07 can't be anything you want like remmina
16:01
It can only be a few applications that have screen scripts
16:01
xfreerdp, xterm, ldm
16:01
<ZAJDAN>
aha
16:04
I will try with xfreerdp what actually use remmina
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16:29
<ZAJDAN>
with xfreerdp I have problem run remote app
16:30
I tried all accordign freerdp wiki but without success
16:30
with remmina it work
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17:01
<alkisg>
Then you need to make a screen script for remmina, see the other scripts at /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d
17:01
But I think that remmina uses xfreerdp anyway
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20:21
<ZAJDAN>
could be PXE used on PCI ethernet card or it is possible just on integrated on motherboard?
20:22
<alkisg>
!ipxe
20:22
<ltsp>
ipxe: iPXE is the successor to the etherboot/gPXE project, and can be used to netboot clients that don't have a NIC ROM with a PXE stack. To add it to grub, see !grub-ipxe. To add it to the Windows boot loader, see !win32-loader. To download floppy, CD or USB images, visit http://ipxe.org or install the ipxe package.
20:22
<alkisg>
!win32-loader
20:22
<ltsp>
win32-loader: win32-loader.exe adds a "PXE - Network boot" option to the Windows boot manager. It's developed for Debian and it uses http://ipxe.org for the network booting. Download it from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/stable. More info at http://goo.gl/FPD7Zv
20:23
<alkisg>
Either one of those 2
20:25
<ZAJDAN>
in this it is not possible without operation system...do I understand it correctly?
20:25
<alkisg>
No you didn't :
20:26
It says "floppy image"
20:26
<ZAJDAN>
flopy image...flopy frive is prehistorical
20:26
<alkisg>
You can put ipxe in a floppy, in a cd, in a usb stick, without OS
20:26
<ZAJDAN>
cd is ok
20:26
<alkisg>
Well, "any media"
20:27
You can also write it to to EPROM if you have a programmer
20:27
<ZAJDAN>
:) not this is higher level
20:27
<alkisg>
See http://boot.ipxe.org
20:28
<ZAJDAN>
thnx for info
20:28
<alkisg>
np
20:29
(I mentioned "floppy image", because can be sure that there's no OS there, not even a boot loader, just ipxe... :D)
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21:16
<alkisg>
!ltsp-pnp
21:16
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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21:19
<vagrantc>
alkisg: yeah, if you want to get familiar with LTSP, ltsp-pnp is totally the way to go! :)
21:19
<alkisg>
hima: welcome :)
21:20
<hima>
thanks
21:20
<alkisg>
vagrantc: haha, just wanted to copy/paste that to hima on another channel
21:20
<vagrantc>
sure :)
21:20
<hima>
i installed ubuntu 16.04 LTS
21:20
<alkisg>
hima, where do you want to use ltsp, with how many clients, with how much RAM etc?
21:20
<hima>
when i tired to install LTSP packages
21:20
<alkisg>
Tell us more about your setup
21:20
<hima>
no way to overcome
21:21
build client
21:21
<alkisg>
You don't need build client, you only need to follow that wiki page that I sent you
21:21
!ltsp-pnp
21:21
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
21:21
<alkisg>
Also, don't use edubuntu, it's old and not really maintained anymore
21:22
<hima>
i was giving edubuntu a try to explore benifits of it
21:24
should i install over ubuntu 16?
21:24
<alkisg>
Which desktop environment did you select? The default ubuntu which has unity?
21:25
<hima>
i am not used to linux flavours
21:25
let me check
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21:27
<hima>
how to check the version?
21:27
i think a disribution called linux lite
21:28
<alkisg>
hima, I suggest you format again using ubuntu-mate like that ltsp-pnp page says
21:28
hima, how many clients do you want to use with ltsp?
21:28
<hima>
i plane to use n primary school
21:29
may be 200 clients
21:29
<alkisg>
Do they have at least 1 GB RAM, or do you also have older clients?
21:29
200 computers or 200 students?
21:29
<hima>
200 pc
21:30
<alkisg>
OK, how much RAM?
21:30
<hima>
some 512
21:30
some 1 g
21:30
and most are 2 GB
21:30
<alkisg>
OK, are you going to use one server only, or more than one?
21:30
<hima>
one
21:31
should i use this disribution now? ubuntu-16.04.2-server-amd64
21:31
<alkisg>
No, please read the wiki page and follow the link
21:31
<hima>
using one server or more it depends upon how optimestic the start
21:31
<alkisg>
It has a link to download ubuntu-mate
21:32
It's best to use one server for each classroom
21:32
*each computer lab
21:32
It doesn't need to be an expensive server
21:32
It can be a cheap but modern PC, e.g. one of those with 2 GB RAM
21:32
<hima>
give me the down load link
21:32
<alkisg>
I gave it to you 2 times now
21:33
Here's one more:
21:33
!ltsp-pnp
21:33
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
21:33
<alkisg>
If you read that, it has a link to download ubuntu-mate
21:33
But you need to read it
21:34
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/16.04.2/release/ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
21:34
<hima>
yaketty or xenial
21:34
<alkisg>
Click the link above
21:34
This one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/16.04.2/release/ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
21:35
Install your ltsp server with that
21:37
<hima>
i386
21:37
32-bit
21:37
why not using 64 bits?
21:38
what is mate stands for?
21:40
<alkisg>
Because you have old clients that are 32bit
21:40
Google for ubuntu-mate and see screen shots
21:40
Time to go, good night! :
21:40
<hima>
thanks
21:40
<alkisg>
np
21:40
<hima>
g nt
21:40
<alkisg>
Just follow that wiki page
21:41
<hima>
yes i am downloading
21:41
and reading
21:42
it is not a must to use ubuntu mare
21:42
but it is prefered? correct?
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