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Channel log from 11 May 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<michiel_e>
hello
03:12
<Appiah>
\o
03:13
<michiel_e>
where can I find the script (which application/daemon does that) which sets the rights on /dev/video0?
03:13
I want to hack that part, because I don't want to add each user to the video group
03:13
<Appiah>
I dont belive that's a ltsp issue
03:14
<michiel_e>
nah it is not
03:14
<Appiah>
but something you would find in your dist
03:14
<michiel_e>
i need it in the ltsp client (ubuntu)
03:14
client chroot
03:15
it is not a LTSP issue no, but I think here are people who have experience with that part
03:15
because I think there were more people asked for rights on the webcam on ltsp clients
03:16
in older versions of the ltsp client I changed the udev rules
03:16
but with karmic there are no udev rules anymore, at least not in /etc/udev/rules.d
03:16
<Appiah>
why dont make it default for users to belong to the video group?
03:17
<michiel_e>
because we LDAP and we use a webinterface to create/modify the users
03:18
and that interface doesn't support that
03:18
<Appiah>
a webinterface worse then webmin? :)
03:19
<michiel_e>
nah, it is custom made stuff, so no worse then webmin ;)
03:19
although it is not that good either :)
03:22
maybe it is however not a bad idea later to build a feature in that interface to be able to add users to default groups, like fuse, video, audio and stuff
03:22
because that requires less hacking and makes upgrades more painless
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<alkisg>
michiel_e: dpkg -L udev | grep rules.d
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<michiel_e>
alkisg: thanks, that command I did not know
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<jimjimovich>
anyone have any tips on making scanners work with LTSP on Ubuntu 10.04?
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<elias_a>
jimjimovich: If the scanner works in Lucid when plugged into the server, you should be able to install it to the chroot environment.
08:37
<Gadi>
jimjimovich: try SCANNER=True in lts.conf
08:38
jimjimovich: also, you might want to have an Xsession.d script on the server that sets SANE_NET_HOSTS=${LTSP_CLIENT}
08:38
<elias_a>
Gadi: Right. I did not remember that.
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<jimjimovich>
anyone have any tips on making scanners work with LTSP on Ubuntu 10.04?
08:47
<netlama>
Hi, I'm trying to set up a USB printer locally on a client, running Ubuntu 9.10. There seems to be a lot of contradictory info in the wikis, can anyone point me towards some current information?
08:48
Is ti still necessary to set up a static ip address and then edit /i386/etc/lts.conf?
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<netlama>
the lts.conf file seems to suggest this is not the way to do it!
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<netlama>
I can see that the usb printer gets seen by the client from dmesg as root in a console on the client, but I'm stuck as how to get it set up.
08:52
<Gadi>
(09:34:30 AM) Gadi: jimjimovich: try SCANNER=True in lts.conf
08:52
(09:35:12 AM) Gadi: jimjimovich: also, you might want to have an Xsession.d script on the server that sets SANE_NET_HOSTS=${LTSP_CLIENT}
08:53
netlama: you need to make a dhcp reservation for the client
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<Gadi>
netlama: so its IP or hostname is static
08:53
netlama: then, you set up the print queue on the server as a jetdirect printer with that IP (port 9100)
08:54
netlama: in lts.conf, you need only tell it what the device is: PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usblp0
08:54
or some such
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<netlama>
Gadi, thx. thats kinda what I read for Jaunty, but my lts.conf says not to edit it but to use /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf instad. Is that right?
08:56
<Gadi>
yup
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<netlama>
OK, thanks.
08:58
<jimjimovich>
Gadi: I tried the lts.conf thing, do you have any further info or links for doing an Xsession.d script?
08:58
the scanner works great on the server, btw
08:58
I also tried running simple-scan as a local app on the thin client, but it didn't find the scanner
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<Gadi>
Xsession.d scripts are shell scripts that are sourced - so the only key thing is to make sure that the script returns true
09:00
so, in your case, simply make a script, say: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/00ltsp-scanner
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and just put:
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SANE_NET_HOSTS=${LTSP_CLIENT}
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export SANE_NET_HOSTS
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if it is not working properly, verify that youhave the scanner packages in your chroot
09:01
with: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg -l |grep sane
09:02
(on ubuntu)
09:02
<stgraber>
Gadi: we have that as part of X99 already ... it should work
09:02
<Gadi>
stgraber: ah, we added that?
09:02
cool
09:02
<stgraber>
Gadi: setting SCANNER=True in lts.conf should start saned + add SANE_NET_HOSTS to the environment
09:02
<Gadi>
jimjimovich: so, you may not need the Xsession.d script at all
09:02
<jimjimovich>
stgraber: I see you're here too :)
09:03
<stgraber>
Gadi: (as in, the session's environment, so the huge ssh command line)
09:03
Gadi: X99-run-x-session is "supposed" to do it
09:03
*X95
09:03
<Gadi>
stgraber: do you install sane packages in the chroot by default?
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<stgraber>
Gadi: in lucid I do (IIRC)
09:04
that feature is supported since r1194 of ldm
09:04
<jimjimovich>
guys, I first installed Edubuntu like 4 years ago at our small university, then updated it to 8.04 two years ago. I have to say, there has been insane progress since I first started using it. I was shocked today to see sound, flash drives, dvd, video, compiz all working out of the box
09:05
<stgraber>
Gadi: so, that's since: ldm ldm-2.0.48
09:05
<jimjimovich>
now my boss wants me to not only upgrade the student computer lab (where 8.04 Edubuntu is running now) but to also move all our staff to ltsp ... so I might be needing a lot of help from this IRC channel in the next month :)
09:07
<Gadi>
jimjimovich: that's always nice to hear!
09:07
glad we fix more than we break
09:07
:)
09:07
<jimjimovich>
oh dude, it's SO NICE
09:07
thanks to everyone who works on this!
09:08
<Gadi>
stgraber: quick question - is there any reason why we need to run pulseaudio in system mode rather than simply as user root?
09:09
is that a security concern?
09:09
<jimjimovich>
my biggest problems i can foresee are printers, scanners, and cd-burners
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<Gadi>
jimjimovich: printers and scanners are same old same old, for cdburners look toward local apps
09:10
<jimjimovich>
Gadi: cool. will running something like K3B as a local app allow it to see the burner?
09:10
<Gadi>
and keep in mind that burning CDs over a network en-masse can have potential for sucking :)
09:11
yes, indeed
09:11
(provided the user is in the right group)
09:11
<jimjimovich>
Gadi: I think people don't really burn cds ... it's just the idea that they "can't" which bothers them
09:11
<Gadi>
yeah
09:11
much like reading from cds in general
09:11
:)
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<jimjimovich>
btw, I remember when installing Edubuntu 6.06, it took me like a week to get USB Flash drivers working ... so it was nice to see it working so well out-of-the-box in Lucid
09:14
Gadi: what's the best time to find help from people in this channel? It's 18:11 here right now ... are most people in America or all over?
09:16
<cliebow>
jimjimovich, Gadi is in NewYork..ogra in Germany stgraber in like Quebec
09:18
<jimjimovich>
okay guys, thanks for the tips. i'll be working on this all day tomorrow, made notes of your tips. thanks again for the great work!
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<cliebow>
i cook a mean lobster..
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<stgraber>
cliebow: currently in Brussels for UDS ;)
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<cliebow>
stgraber:cool!!
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<Gadi>
stgraber: tell shuttleworth that if he uses "nipply" when he gets up to "N", I quit
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:)
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<cliebow>
weeeee!
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<nosedrum>
hi everybody
11:23
i have a issue who make me crazy
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<nosedrum>
i have a different display of a html table on my ltsp clients in comparaion of ltsp server or laptop...
11:25
anyone have experience of internet browser rendering issues on ltsp clients?
11:32
anybody to test with me if your configuration make the same issue ?
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<nosedrum>
I experiment a Firefox issue running on a ltsp client
11:36
On a buisness jsp site the result of a form normally appear on local firefox but not on the ltsp client
11:37
I have no idea why
11:37
nobody have some experience with that ?
11:38
<johnny>
i've heard of similiar things
11:39
<nosedrum>
really ?
11:39
<johnny>
not sure if it's fixed or not since i killed the ~
11:39
i switched hardware but forgot to clean up the client ~
11:39
i'll find out on thursday if it's still happening
11:39
with intel gma 950 graphics
11:40
nosedrum, really what you need to do then.. is try to boot a livecd/liveusb on that client hardware if possible
11:41
i'm not using standard ltsp, but the fat client support.. so nothing is really going over the network or anything as in a standard ltsp setup
11:41
so.. it's probably not related to ltsp at all, just the specific hardware of the client
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<grspence__>
is it possible to share a usb disk connected to a ltsp client via samba?
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<jammcq>
hello friends
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<thunsucker>
good afternoon
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<grspence__>
afternoon
13:38
any idea if i can share a usb disk connected to a ltsp client via samba?
13:39
<Gadi>
grspence__: it should appear under /media/$USER on the server
13:39
just share out that dir
13:50
<grspence__>
ah ok fab
13:51
<Lns>
grspence__: sounds like an interesting request..why do you need to do that specifically?
13:53
<grspence__>
for my home theathre PC....
13:53
i've got a small acer aspire revo behind the TV
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and a thin client gathering dust in a cupboard
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so my thinking is use the thin client to serve all my external hard drives over the network
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that way I got all my movies available on myth but none of the wires etc gluttering my TV area....all neatly tucked away in a cupboard
13:55
am loving mythtv
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<Lns>
grspence__: awesome, I just did that as well with a little atom thin client box i have, have a 1Gbit cable running upstairs to my PC serving everything out via ltsp =)
13:57* Lns can't believe how well xvid/divx/etc movies stream over the network, and how crappily flash *still* is with the same setup, even non-fullscreen
13:57
<grspence__>
flash always has been a bug bear
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<Lns>
tell me about it ;)
13:58
<grspence__>
just wish there was a plugin to integrate bbc iPlayer and 4od into myth easily
13:59
<Lns>
I was thinking about using myth, but 1) I don't have cable, and 2) Everything just seems easier with a full desktop to me
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<grspence__>
wherebouts u live?
13:59
<Lns>
Bout an hour north of San Francisco
13:59
<grspence__>
ah ok
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<Lns>
you?
13:59
<grspence__>
i'm in the UK
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<Lns>
right on
13:59
Anarchy in the UK!!! =)
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<grspence__>
lol
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<Lns>
UK = PAL, not ntsc right?
14:00
<grspence__>
yup
14:02
terrestrial TV consists of a DVB-t "freeview" signal - probs about 26 channels
14:02
that's all that i really need -
14:02
it's great sitting at work though and being able to line up recording from my iphone
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<Lns>
European programming just seems so much more quality (specially BBC) than american
14:03
hehe
14:03
nice
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<grspence__>
yeah well we got less channels but more quality i would say
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<Lns>
for sure
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<grspence__>
but then there is always the digital satellite incumbant...Sky as it is known here
14:04
owned by rupert murdoch
14:04
<Lns>
i'd say around here with comcast if you flip through the 150 channels, 80% will be on a commercial
14:04
<grspence__>
mostly channels showing american shows etc
14:04
oh god yeah i couldn't put up with ur ad breaks
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<Lns>
it's horrible, that's why i cut my cable
14:05
<3 youtube and hulu
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<grspence__>
:D
14:05
seriously try iplayer
14:05
get a VPN connection to the UK and give it a go
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<Lns>
but can't wait until ogg becomes more popular for audio/video
14:05
isn't iplayer just a flash based player, or a network?
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<grspence__>
yeah but there is a "get iplayer" script that transcodes the flash in the background
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<Lns>
transcodes to what, ogg?
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<grspence__>
think just an mpeg not sure
14:07
never used it
14:07
mostly watch iplayer on my mac laptop
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<Lns>
ah
14:08
i watched an ogg video on my ltsp terminal in firefox..quality was SO good, and streaming was perfect fullscreen
14:08
<thunsucker>
Lns: do you work with diskless workstations?
14:08
<Lns>
thunsucker: i work *with* them, not for them
14:08* Lns is typing on his ltsp term 1220
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<thunsucker>
Lns: gotcha, just haven't seen can-o-spam in here for a while
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<Lns>
ah, yeah me neither
14:09
probably out snowboarding or something ;)
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<thunsucker>
lol
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<abeehc>
ogg/h264?
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<abeehc>
i think you still need some horsepower
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<Lns>
abeehc: ogg != h264
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<abeehc>
ogg != video codec
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<Lns>
it's not?
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<abeehc>
ogg can certainly contain x264 as i recall
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<Lns>
well, vorbis
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<abeehc>
it's just a container
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<Lns>
really...that's weird.
14:12
<abeehc>
they have vorbis for audio
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<Lns>
oh, theora is video?
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<abeehc>
but i don't htink there's a legit ogg video codec per say
14:12
yeah
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<Lns>
so ogg=container, vorbis/theora is codec?
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<abeehc>
it's a general purpose container but theora is the way to go
14:12
yeah
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<Lns>
gotcha, thx for that
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<alkisg>
Isn't v8 from google going to replace both theora & x264?
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<abeehc>
just pretty sure my clients would melt trying to play ogg via html5
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i think if it were using the gstreamer plugin it would be smooth though
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alkisg: here's hoping
14:13
but all thus fud about patents even in regard to theora
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i'm not sure vp8 or whatever will clear it out that well
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but google may just go to bat for us and fight the good fight
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<alkisg>
Let's hope so... open & better than both of them, they do have some strong cards
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<abeehc>
for sure I don't imagine too many people really wanna tangle with them
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<Lns>
i just know youtube needs to switch off of flash..ugh
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<abeehc>
mind you mpegla is not predictable
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you can switch it for some videos or a lot of them, lns
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<Lns>
abeehc: how?
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<abeehc>
doesn't work perfect but i've been playing with it
14:15
http://www.youtube.com/testtube
14:15* Lns gets REALLY excited
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<abeehc>
i suspect it's still h264 but html5 nonetheless
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<Lns>
anything is better than flash
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i'd even go for wmv =p
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<abeehc>
haha i'd mostly agree
14:16
but in it's current state; at least for chrome; the cpu usage is comparable
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:(
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<Lns>
and firefox/iceweasel not compatible as of yet according to yt :(
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<grspence__>
right got ltsp building a client :)
14:19
gorra love ubuntu
14:19
so on my server any drive connected will just appear under my /media/(user) directory?
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<alkisg>
Lns: I wonder if firefox can use the `chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra` codecs to play that youtube videos..
14:20
<Lns>
alkisg: dunno..was going to test out chrome on lenny right now and give it a shot w/that
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<abeehc>
right the ff incompatibility comes down to them not bundling h264
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which you have to respect
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<abeehc>
at least i think
14:24* Lns wonders what would happen if somehow money completely disappeared from the face of the earth...would we be better off? :)
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<johnny>
Lns, sorry dude.. theora ain't gonna happen
14:30
more likely... google is just gonna continue working on opening their on2 tech
14:31
Lns, until there is more or less free access to energy by the global population.. there will be money
14:34
it's probably recommended to use a browser that handles video via gstreamer if you want things to "just work"
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too bad chrome doesn't use gstreamer
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<abeehc>
hmm
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i'm not sure about 'just work'.. how many times do you find the gstreamer plugin loading in firefox?
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given most content is flashed or whatever i hardly ever use it
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nasa tv being one exception
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<Lns>
johnny: free energy is closer than you think =)
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<johnny>
which kinda free?
14:39
<Lns>
look up in the sky ;)
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<johnny>
abeehc, huh?
14:40
Lns, hmm? not really .. we still have to build lots of things to collect it all
14:40
<Lns>
solar is going to be so cheap to convert to real energy soon it's going to be used for everything
14:40
johnny: look at organics (plants/etc)..
14:40
pretty cheap to grow a tree, trees consume solar and convert it for themselves
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<johnny>
at low efficiency
14:40
nobody has achieved super high efficiency with solar yet
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<Lns>
until we figure out how to manipulate it ;)
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<johnny>
believe me.. i watch that space..
14:41
as well as fusion
14:41
fusion seems to be catching hold again
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lots of folks are trying lots of things with both
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<abeehc>
i never use the gstreamer plugin in ff; in fact i avoid it; seems just as likely to crash as a flash video playert
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<johnny>
wfm
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as far as i can tell,.. it's not actually using gstreamer directly.. but using some external plugin infra to call totem that happens to use gstreamer
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<abeehc>
right right my mistake
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<Lns>
johnny: that's cool. don't know about fusion besides what i saw in 'chain reaction' ;)
14:43
<johnny>
lots of folks are working on stuff like neighborhood reactors
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<Lns>
i'm just a dreamer but I think the sun along with our motivation to create lower energy/efficient products will harmonize in the future
14:43
<johnny>
the sun .. as we get it so far.. isn't really enough
14:43
<Lns>
johnny: right
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<johnny>
that's why japan spent $50B to put up a space based solar power station
14:43
<Lns>
which is why we need to not waste so much energy with our current stuff
14:43
we're very sloppy as it is
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<johnny>
sure.. that's a better place to focus
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<Lns>
70-80% efficiency with MODERN power supplies for PCs? bah
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<johnny>
we just bought 3 new terminals for our store..
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they use 35W max
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dual core atoms
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of course.. i wish we could use some arm stuff.. but not quite feasible yet
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<Lns>
nice
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<johnny>
arm would be even more efficient
14:45
that's the kind of thing you can build into appliances
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<Lns>
i've tried a couple of atoms, i'd definitely stay away from the N270 line but their newer dualcore stuff (not just ht) seems to work pretty well
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<reynolds>
alkisg: are you up for tring to help me out again?
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<alkisg>
reynolds: hi, I'm a little deep into python atm, if noone else can help you, could you wait for 30'?
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<Lns>
reynolds: what's the prob?
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<reynolds>
sounds good. Anyone else familiar with problems relating to lts.conf not working in Lucid?
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Several variables from lts.conf do not reflect in my clients. For instance local apps are not reflecting menu items.
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<Lns>
reynolds: hrm, they work fine for me..you're going through the actual gnome menus (applications -> etc) ? or a gnome panel/desktop launcher?
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<reynolds>
also ssh is turned on despite, including LDM_DIRECTX=True
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<Lns>
sounds lke your lts.conf just isn't being read at all
15:14
i386 or amd64 chroot?
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there are separate lts.conf for each if you have both
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<reynolds>
my server is amd64, my chroot is i386
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<Lns>
so you're modifying /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf ?
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<reynolds>
yes
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<Lns>
perms are correct?
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<reynolds>
Perms?
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<Lns>
permissions
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<reynolds>
im not sure.. is there away that I can check
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<Lns>
ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf
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<reynolds>
amd64?
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<Lns>
while you're at it why not pastebin the entire contents of your lts.conf
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sorry, i386
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(pasted my own ;) )
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!pastebin
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<ltspbot>
Lns: "pastebin" :: try !pastebot
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<Lns>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
Lns: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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<Lns>
reynolds: you have a [Default] at the very top of your lts.conf right?
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<reynolds>
out put " -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268 2010-05-10 17:05 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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"
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<vagrantc>
maybe paste the whole lts.conf...
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<Lns>
k perms are good
15:18* Lns waves to vagrantc
15:18* vagrantc waves and hides
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<Lns>
=p
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<reynolds>
http://pastebin.com/LsemHzgK
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<Lns>
not sure if you need it but maybe a space between = and stuff? (as in ldm_directx = true )
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i always tab vars and values out to line them up for neatness sake..just me though
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reynolds: also no spaces between local_apps_menu_items commas and values
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<reynolds>
so "LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = firefox,glchess,gcompris"
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<Lns>
yes
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that's how i do it anyway and it works
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<reynolds>
also can I logout client to test changes, or do I have to do a full reboot
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<Lns>
reboot
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<reynolds>
thats what I have been doing, just wanted to clarify
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<Lns>
i mean you probably could import the vars (they are simply environment variables set at boot) but i'm not sure how to do that
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<reynolds>
BINGO, it works
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now however firefox is not connecting to the internet.
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<Lns>
had same issue
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have you gone through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT/ ?
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<reynolds>
not since I upgraded. Would the upgrade have effected that?
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<Lns>
*shrug* probably ;) good to verify stuff at least since it's borked
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<Lns>
reynolds: how's it going?
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<reynolds>
got it, Need to "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 " in /etc/sysctl.conf
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Now, do you know anyway so that I can install firefox addons to be applied to all users using localapp firefox?
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<Lns>
reynolds: probably depends on the addon
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not really sure though, haven't delved into that at all (besides flash plugin)
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<reynolds>
ok thanks anyway. I just happy I got back control of lts.conf. Thanks
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<Lns>
np glad it worked
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<Lns>
!compiz
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<ltspbot>
Lns: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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<reynolds>
ok, now I have a couple of machines that are showing a blank login screen, all blue. Anyone else run into this?
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<Lns>
i see blank light blue when rebooting / shutting down some atom based clients
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and it doesn't fully turn off
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<reynolds>
I am tring diffrent xserver variables, but am having no success. Color depth, resolution, driver, etc
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<Lns>
they don't work by default?
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<reynolds>
Lns: what are you refering to
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<Lns>
without any variables
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<Lns>
reynolds: maybe try removing quiet & splash from tftp kernel parms default file
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i had a problem with that with 9.10 but not 10.04..
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sometimes the framebuffer splash messes things up
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<reynolds>
with or without variables. I cant log in. when the machine boots up I am lefty with a blanck light blue screen
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I thought that perhaps specifing a diffrent XSERVER varable ie XSERVER = vesa, that would aloow me to see the login.
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<Lns>
i'd try disabling boot splash first
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brb
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<reynolds>
How do you do that?
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<Lns>
reynolds: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting
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<johnny>
why doesn't ubuntu ship pxelinux.cfg/default file that has a debugging option
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that doesn't include quiet/splash
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<Lns>
ubuntu loves pretty pictures
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they will sacrifice debugging for pretty pictures ;)
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<reynolds>
Ok I tried editing "sudo vim /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default" removing quite and splash. now my clients say error: failed to connect to NBD Server
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initramfs
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<reynolds>
I just edited it to inclue quite and splash and am still getting same message. HELP
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<reynolds>
my /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default is this is there an error? http://pastebin.com/VSfHvQmj
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<Lns>
reynolds: nbd port is 2000
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careful with your edits :)
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<alkisg>
quite =>quiet
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<reynolds>
I made the "quiet" adjustment and I am still getting the error.
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<alkisg>
What about the 200 => 2000 adjustment?
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<reynolds>
sorry just saw that.
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<reynolds>
changed "2000" still getting error
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anyone see what is causing the error? http://pastebin.com/6cf2vhKH
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<Lns>
reynolds: that's exactly what i have
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<reynolds>
maybe a server reboot?
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<reynolds>
nope? anyone know why I would get an error. Failed to connect to NBD server
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<Lns>
reynolds: is your nbd server up and running? have you verified the configuration?
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<reynolds>
I tried resetting using dpkg-reconfigure nbd-server, now updating the image to see if that changes anything
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<Lns>
it was working before, no?
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<reynolds>
THAT DID IT!!! I was getting worried there
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<Lns>
nice
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<rmainard>
does anyone know how to diable the information screen that comes up when a thin client boots to an ltsp cluster?
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The problem I have with it is when the mouse is moved it de-selects the OK box and is kind of difficult to get it to re-select so I can hit enter to clear it
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