IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 March 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:39 | <johnny_> rcy, are you here?
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| 05:27 | <ogra_cmpc> if anyone sees jwz entering the channel, please ping me
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| 06:15 | <Nubae> is apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree flash player 9?
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| 08:31 | <rjune_> ogra_cmpc: why the hell would jwz come in here?
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| 08:32 | <ogra_cmpc> rjune_, because i invited him to do so in my answer mail to: http://jwz.livejournal.com/846523.html
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| 08:38 | * laga wonders why that guy is trying to run a.out netscape binaries. | |
| 08:40 | <laga> ogra_cmpc: wrt the DNS name server hack: i have already added enough hacks so that it doesn't really matter anymore for me. do you know if /tmp/net-eth0.conf is still available after the real init was started? the name server address could be pulled from there then
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| 08:43 | <ogra_cmpc> i dont thing thats available outside of busybox
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| 08:43 | *think
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| 08:43 | <laga> too bad.
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| 08:44 | the easiest thing might be copying it to the cow branch then
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| 08:44 | <ogra_cmpc> laga, he runs a.out because he wrote netscape :) might be that in his opinion this is the last usable version :P
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| 08:44 | <laga> ogra_cmpc: ah. ok, that's a valid reason
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| 08:44 | (if he wrote netscape, maybe he can just recompile it ;))
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| 08:45 | <ogra_cmpc> heh, well :)
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| 08:45 | that would be easier than ranting publically
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| 08:47 | <mnemoc> hi, what's the "upstream" repository of ltsp5? http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/pqm/trunk/?
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| 08:48 | <ogra_cmpc> thats the source for package queue manager i think :)
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| 08:48 | nothing to do with ltsp
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| 08:48 | <mnemoc> i just noticed :\
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| 08:48 | <ogra_cmpc> how did you get that url in relation to ltsp ?
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| 08:48 | <mnemoc> googling
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| 08:49 | <ogra_cmpc> intresting
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| 08:49 | https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/
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| 08:49 | <rjune_> laga: because he's a pain in the ass.
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| 08:49 | <ogra_cmpc> there are the branches
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| 08:49 | <mnemoc> ogra_cmpc: thanks :)
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| 08:49 | ogra_cmpc: perfect... i have been two days looking for that :)
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| 08:50 | <ogra_cmpc> heh, asking here is always the quickest way
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| 08:50 | <rjune_> every time I've talked to him, he's been more interested in bitching and throwing a temper tantrum then getting his problem solved.
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| 08:50 | <ogra_cmpc> for everything related to ltsp :)
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| 08:50 | <mnemoc> ogra_cmpc: thanks :)
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| 08:50 | <ogra_cmpc> rjune_, yeah, but he invented browsing, that gives him a big bonus ...
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| 08:51 | <rjune_> ogra_cmpc: netscape sucks. even the old versions
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| 08:51 | <laga> then he should be able to figure out how to add "-r" to the sysklog args...
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| 08:51 | <rjune_> so, uhm. no.
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| 08:51 | <ogra_cmpc> well, sort of "invented" :)
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| 08:51 | rjune_, you dont use firefox ?
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| 08:51 | <rjune_> no I do not.
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| 08:52 | <ogra_cmpc> ah , k ... well
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| 08:52 | <rjune_> and he didn't write firefox.
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| 08:52 | <laga> ogra_cmpc: wasn't the gecko engine mostly rewritten from scratch because th netscape engine wasn't clean enough?
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| 08:52 | <rjune_> yup
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| 08:52 | <ogra_cmpc> i dont think it was "from scratch"
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| 08:52 | <rjune_> pretty much
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| 08:54 | <Xorcom> anyone knows or have a TR2340 INIt?
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| 08:56 | <Q-FUNK> !g
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| 08:56 | <ltspbot`> Q-FUNK: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:56 | <rjune_> !g
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| 08:56 | <ltspbot`> rjune_: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:19 | <Gadi> morning, guys
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| 09:22 | <ogra_cmpc> yo Gadi
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| 09:25 | <Gadi> yo yo
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| 09:25 | so, life is ironic
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| 09:26 | <ogra_cmpc> yo ... ghurt
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| 09:26 | <Gadi> had a b-day this week, went out to celebrate last weekend, got food poisoning, been spending my bday week not eating :P
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| 09:26 | <ogra_cmpc> is it ? how so ?
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| 09:26 | happy bday then :)
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| 09:26 | <Gadi> thanks - tell my stomach to comply
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| 09:26 | :)
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| 09:27 | <ogra_cmpc> heh, get well ..
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> meanwhile, I keep finding more things to learn
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> which is good for an old dog
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| 09:27 | this SNMP thing can be really fun to play with
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| 09:27 | :D
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| 09:28 | <ogra_cmpc> it can also rip huge security holes in your setup if misconfigured :)
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| 09:29 | <Gadi> yeah - especially if you do read-write stuff
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| 09:29 | <ogra_cmpc> yeah
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| 09:29 | <Gadi> still kinda cool
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| 09:36 | <Blinny> SNMP is extremely useful as your network grows beyond a server or two.
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| 09:52 | <bjorn> sutula: interesting. looks like your BIOS is definitely different than mine. are you using a plug-in radeon, by chance? my problem is with the built-in radeon
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| 10:26 | <sutula> bjorn: Nothing plug-in...stock
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| 11:22 | <rjune_> happy bday Gadi, how old are you?
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| 11:23 | <rjune_> Gadi: snmp write is a huge security hole problem
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| 11:36 | <bjorn> sutula: huh. your radeon is at 00:0d.0, mine is at 01:00.0. maybe there are two t5710 versions, and only the one with radeon at 01:00.0 has the problem. any chance you have some of each, and saw the problem on the other variety?
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| 11:38 | <sutula> bjorn: aw (in #lab) confirmed that there are at least two versions with entirely different processors
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| 11:39 | <bjorn> sutula: different processor shouldn't matter, but if they moved the radeon and forgot to update the _PRT, that would do it
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| 11:40 | <sutula> bjorn: What clock speed do you have?
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| 11:40 | <bjorn> sutula: i have the 1.2GHz version
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| 11:41 | <sutula> bjorn: Mine are all 800 MHz, though I might have had a borrowed 1.2G during initial testing, so maybe that's why I saw it then
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| 11:42 | <bjorn> sutula: ahh, i like that theory! and my quirk should be harmless for your boxes, since it checks for the 01:00.0 PCI address before changing anything
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| 11:42 | <sutula> bjorn: Anyway, apparently, it doesn't affect all t5710's, only the 1.2G efficeon
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| 11:44 | <bjorn> sutula: you mean the IRQ problem only affects the 1.2GHz version? i didn't remember any data to show that, but good to know
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| 11:47 | <sutula> bjorn: I'm just guessing...entirely different processors (efficeon vs. crusoe), different speeds, probably different (or at least different version) BIOS's
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| 12:14 | <warren> ogra_cmpc, cool, one of the RH employees is on the IETF DHCP standards group
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| 12:15 | <warren> ogra_cmpc, we're going to kick off the ratification process to get a NBD DHCP option into the standards
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| 12:15 | <cliebow_> 8~)
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| 12:16 | <ogra_cmpc> heh
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| 12:16 | cool
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| 12:19 | <warren> ogra_cmpc, we also came up with a cleaner way to handle nbd
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| 12:19 | ogra_cmpc, similar to NFS mount syntax
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| 12:20 | NFS: mount -t nfs 192.168.0.254:/path/to/root -o ro /somewhere
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| 12:20 | NBD: mount -t ext2 192.168.0.254:2000 -o nbd,ro /somewhere
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| 12:20 | <ogra_cmpc> yeah, i already thought about a mount.nbd wrapper
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| 12:20 | <warren> ogra_cmpc, actually, this NBD mount syntax is similar to loop
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| 12:21 | <ogra_cmpc> right
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| 12:21 | its all over not much different from loop
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| 12:21 | (i actually tend to abuse it for loop mounts since i have the servetr around anyway :) )
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| 12:23 | <warren> heh
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| 12:23 | ogra_cmpc, what package is your /bin/mount coming from? util-linux-ng?
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| 12:23 | ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng/ upstream
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| 12:23 | <ogra_cmpc> mount
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| 12:23 | <warren> oh
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| 12:23 | <ogra_cmpc> (is thae package name here)
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| 12:24 | <warren> ogra_cmpc, that's the source package?
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| 12:24 | <ogra_cmpc> ah
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| 12:24 | util-linux
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| 12:24 | no ng there
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| 12:26 | <warren> ah
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| 12:27 | ogra_cmpc, yeah, we moved on from util-linux finally after acknoledging the old upstream was dead long ago
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| 12:51 | <ogra_cmpc> warren, wow, what makes fedora boot so slow ? http://blog.kagou.fr/post/2008/03/06/Chronos-US-version
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| 12:52 | intrestingly the over all time is the same as ubuntu ...
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| 12:52 | <warren> ogra_cmpc, he didn't indicate what he instaled
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| 12:52 | <ogra_cmpc> fedora 8
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| 12:52 | with the same desktop additions ubuntu uses
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| 12:52 | at least thats what he writes he did for all the distros
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| 12:52 | <warren> ogra_cmpc, I have a few theories
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| 12:53 | ogra_cmpc, we didn't try to optimize F8 much at all
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| 12:53 | <ogra_cmpc> "Only Fedora, Mandriva and OpenSuse have been modified to correspond to Ubuntu. This means that Compiz is activated, Tracker and Deskbar applet also."
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| 12:53 | <warren> we don't even use tracker
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| 12:53 | ogra_cmpc, btw does Ubuntu prelink?
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| 12:53 | <ogra_cmpc> neither does matter for boottime though
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| 12:53 | no, we use readahead
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| 12:54 | <warren> we have readahead, but it is broken
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| 12:54 | prelink is different
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| 12:54 | it actually modifies all binaries on the system
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| 12:54 | <ogra_cmpc> right, but one excludes the other afaik
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| 12:54 | <warren> No
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| 12:54 | You can use both if it is considered correctly (which it is not on fedora)
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| 12:54 | he likely tested the speed before prelink had a chance to work
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| 12:55 | <ogra_cmpc> an you (theroetically) have to run it after every package installation
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| 12:55 | <warren> configured correctly*
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| 12:55 | <ogra_cmpc> i'm not sure readahed copes ...
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| 12:55 | its very fragile
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| 12:56 | anyway, we dont have a optimized profile on by default, i found that not many ubuntu users know about the profile kerneloption to create the proper lists
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| 12:56 | so readahead actually only gains us a marginal speedup
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| 12:58 | my prob with all these speedup solutions is that they dont really work on the fly
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| 12:58 | you always have to generate a list, db or some such
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| 13:00 | and in case of readahead i think something like that should rather be done on filesystem level ... then you dont need such workarounds
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| 13:18 | <laga> ogra_cmpc: oh, readahead has to be configured? i didn't know that
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| 13:19 | maybe it'd be helpful if some stuff was documented properly..
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| 13:19 | <ogra_cmpc> laga, boot with: profile
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| 13:19 | then reboot
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| 13:19 | profile triggers a readahead hook in initramfs that creates the new file lists
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| 13:20 | <laga> it's as easy as that? cool
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| 13:21 | <ogra_cmpc> sadly it doesnt work on stacked filesystems like unionfs or aufs
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| 13:21 | <laga> damn. i was just going to try it :/
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| 13:21 | <ogra_cmpc> and it breaks on nfs as well ...
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| 13:21 | so nothing that helps with networked root
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| 13:23 | <laga> find /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ | xargs grep -i profile returns nothing (on gutsy). is it in the kernel or maybe only in hardy?
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| 13:51 | <johnny> is there a reason the ltsp site itself is out of date wrt to pointing to upstream devel?
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| 13:52 | should i modify it ?
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| 13:53 | <ogra_cmpc> its a wiki :)
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| 13:55 | <johnny> well.. part of the site is :)
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| 13:55 | the main page isn't..
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| 13:55 | is there a reason?
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| 13:56 | <laga> ogra_cmpc: um, how do you know that readahead wont work well with unionfs? i've just found references to unionfs being broken (which somehow doesn't surprise me)
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| 16:50 | <mnemoc> are {ldm,ltsp,ltspfs}-trunk branches "stable"?
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| 16:54 | <warren> mnemoc, depends what you mean by stable
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| 16:54 | mnemoc, I keep doing changes to them because they don't work on fedora
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| 16:58 | <mnemoc> warren: what should i use as start point "upstream" for an integration on another distribution? by "stable" i mean it includes what is supposed to work, and that new commits are done when the change is supposed to work :)
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| 16:58 | warren: are your problems "just" related to the .specs file or deeper?
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| 17:00 | <johnny> what distro?
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| 17:01 | <mnemoc> johnny: www.opensde.net ... it's a framework to create and maintain custom distributions from zero
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| 17:02 | err
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| 17:02 | www.opensde.org
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| 17:02 | <johnny> hmm.. i just do that with gentoo i guess :)
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| 17:03 | afaik you should use the those trunk branches atm
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| 17:03 | <mnemoc> i have no problem with that ,-)
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| 17:03 | johnny: thanks :)
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| 17:03 | <johnny> i might help dberkholz with gentoo integration if he'll let me
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| 17:04 | <Q-FUNK> johnny: you might wanna talk to leio also for that
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| 17:04 | <johnny> more so as a project to help me learn ltsp
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| 17:04 | really?
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| 17:04 | aha.. i knew leio
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| 17:04 | err know
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| 17:04 | well. dinner time in a few.. bbl
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| 17:36 | <dberkholz> johnny: nobody's stopping you, the nonworking code is in public bzr now =)
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| 20:32 | <jammcq> hey friends
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| 20:32 | <warren> hey ji
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| 20:32 | m
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| 20:33 | <jammcq> hey warre
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| 20:33 | n
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| 20:33 | <jcastro> hi jammcq, warren
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| 20:33 | hi $others
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| 20:33 | <jammcq> jcastro: hey, went out to brazilian tonight
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| 20:34 | <jcastro> oh man.
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| 20:34 | beef, and pork, and chicken
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| 20:34 | it was probably awesome
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| 20:34 | <jammcq> I have a couple people from my really big customer in rochester, NY in town today and took them out to a meal they won't soon forget
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| 20:35 | <jcastro> jammcq: went out to lunch the other day with OU people, and sun have been courting them, so they came too, and paid for lunch
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| 20:35 | tried to sell them sunrays
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| 20:35 | <jammcq> hmm, free lunch, eh?
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| 20:35 | <jcastro> man
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| 20:35 | <jammcq> dude, did you hear they closed all the La Sheesh's ?
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| 20:35 | <jcastro> we railed them about sunrays vs. ltsp
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| 20:36 | I wish I could have taped it for you
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| 20:36 | <jammcq> heh
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| 20:36 | <jcastro> so, lasheesh is closed?
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| 20:36 | <jammcq> yep, gone
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| 20:36 | <jcastro> the whole sponsoring terrorism thing?
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| 20:36 | <jammcq> yeah, I guess so. the tax evasion didn't help either
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| 20:36 | <jcastro> heh
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| 20:36 | I love detroit
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| 20:37 | jammcq: have you talked to any sun people about sunrays at all in the last year?
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| 20:38 | <jammcq> nope
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| 20:38 | not at all
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| 20:38 | <jcastro> hah
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| 20:38 | it's awesome
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| 20:38 | they have no idea what ltsp can do
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| 20:38 | ken explained to them how we have ltsp clients that do all the things they do
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| 20:38 | <jammcq> well, when Fedora starts shipping it in F9, they'll start to get a clue
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| 20:38 | <jcastro> they didn't really believe him
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| 20:39 | they really don't grok hat you can do thin clients without sunrays
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| 20:39 | it was pretty awesome
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| 20:40 | jammcq: so is F9 going to be all ltsp5-able ootb?
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| 20:40 | <jammcq> umm, well, warren is the guy. let's see what he says
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| 20:41 | <jcastro> warren for the win!
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| 20:41 | <warren> jcastro, I have it maybe 85% working on F8. F9 would be identical if it weren't for a new X bug.
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| 20:41 | X's security something layer was completely rewritten
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| 20:41 | <jcastro> I really drilled zonker about ltsp at fosdem
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| 20:41 | he's the new suse community guy
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| 20:42 | <jammcq> oh, to see if he's able to make anything happen?
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| 20:42 | there's a couple of Opensuse guys who have done some really good work with ltsp-5 and kiwi
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| 20:42 | <jcastro> He just started so he isn't aware of the issues
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| 20:42 | so I told him to get ahold of you
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| 20:42 | <jammcq> I think they're doing it without any novell resources tho
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| 20:43 | <jcastro> zonker is good people, I'm sure he'll get ahold of you soon jammcq
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| 20:43 | <jammcq> i've known zonker for a long time
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| 20:44 | <jcastro> jammcq: got to meet Tom "Spot" Calloway from fedora as well
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| 20:44 | great guy
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| 20:44 | <jammcq> cool
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| 20:44 | <jcastro> also got to see keith's talk on X
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| 20:44 | it was an awesome talk
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| 20:45 | <jammcq> keith usually does a pretty decent talk
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| 20:45 | <jcastro> there was a guy there from ATI/AMD as well
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| 20:45 | but it was packed
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| 20:45 | <jammcq> he's got the right amount of smuggness to get up there and have fun
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| 20:45 | <jcastro> from what mirco muller told me people just wrang the ati/amd guy through the wringer
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| 20:45 | <jammcq> ati's in a bit of a pickle
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| 20:46 | <jcastro> rightfully so imo.
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| 20:46 | <jammcq> their driver sucks and they can't opensource what they have
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| 20:46 | cuz they don't own the IP in it
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| 20:46 | so they're developing a new set of opensource drivers, but that takes forever
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| 20:46 | <jcastro> they subcontracted a suse person to do the oss driver
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| 20:46 | but it's only one dude
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| 20:46 | vs. intel and their 10-ish so people
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| 20:48 | jammcq: off to bed, see you tuesday; warren, see you later!
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| 20:48 | <jammcq> ciao
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| 20:58 | <warren> hmm\
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| 20:58 | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436230
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| 20:58 | apparently the way LDM is doing xauth is broken and wrong
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| 20:59 | it should be getting the X cookie BEFORE x starts
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| 21:12 | <mnemoc> ow
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| 22:12 | <warren> ogra_, ogra_cmpc: can we PLEASE fork ldm-trunk to ldm-0.1 now?
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| 22:12 | ogra_, ogra_cmpc: starting tomorrow I will have incompatible changes, starting with the broken way it does xauth
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| 22:14 | ogra_cmpc, ogra_: it is completely appropriate for the cutting edge changes to go into ldm-trunk
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| 22:14 | given "trunk'
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| 22:33 | <johnny> dberkholz, where?
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| 22:33 | <johnny> i don't see a gentoo branch in the bzr branches list
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| 22:33 | and what about an overlay for the ebuilds?
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