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Channel log from 29 November 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<GGD>
good afternoon all
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i have a ubuntu LTSP question
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<sbalneav>
!ask
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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<GGD>
i can see the ltsp directory in my GUI but when i try to use the terminal i can't get to it
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i am using 9.10
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it says path not found
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<sbalneav>
Are you trying this from the thin client?
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<GGD>
no from the server
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<sbalneav>
How are you "trying to get to it" from the terminal?
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<GGD>
in the gui its a slight latency to get to it but i get to it
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using the CD command
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<sbalneav>
Can you please show us the exact command you're using?
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<GGD>
hold on
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cd /opt/ltsp/i386
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<sbalneav>
Is there anything in /opt/ltsp?
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<GGD>
i can't get to that dir
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using cd command
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but in the gui i can see the fodlers
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folders rather
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<sbalneav>
Is there anything in /opt?
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<GGD>
in the gui,,, it shows the ltsp and images folders
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no nothing on the CLI
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<sbalneav>
please paste the output of the following command to the pastebot:
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ls -l /opt
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!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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<GGD>
http://ltsp.pastebin.com/f1d796430
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<sbalneav>
Are you the sole administrator of this machine?
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<GGD>
yes
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its a test machine as i am trying something that i found
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using ltsp
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<sbalneav>
Are you already IN the chroot?
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<GGD>
i think so
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i did a sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 command already
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<sbalneav>
Then of course you won't see it.
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<GGD>
oh
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<sbalneav>
you're already IN it.
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<GGD>
ahh forgive me i am sorta new to ubuntu
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<sbalneav>
Have you read the docs?
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<GGD>
i use fedora mostly
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<sbalneav>
!docs
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<GGD>
i am reading right now
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thank you
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<sbalneav>
To "get out" of the chroot command, you'll need to type "exit"
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<GGD>
ok
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i didn't know there was different shells so to speak
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<sbalneav>
All the chroot command does is reposition where "root" is
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Normally, root lives... well, where root is. /
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by doing a "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386", then /opt/ltsp/i386 becomes the "new" root.
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when you cd /, it looks as if you're in /
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but you're at /opt/ltsp/i386
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<GGD>
ahh and you can't ll or dir in it..
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<sbalneav>
Well, you can, sure.
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ls will work. Any command that's been installed in the chroot will work.
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in the ltsp chroot is a mini-installation of linux, so quite a few things work as expected in the chroot.
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but /opt/ltsp/i386 isn't IN the chroot. If it was, that'd be (outside the chroot) /opt/ltsp/i386/opt/ltsp/i386
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<GGD>
ahh and that is the folder that when you pxe from the server thats what your boot into
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<sbalneav>
Correct.
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<GGD>
gotcha now
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<sbalneav>
for the thin client, that's it's root.
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<GGD>
gotcha now
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its a little different
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<sbalneav>
No, it's been used for years.
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It's exactly the same process linux uses to install to a hard drive.
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<sbalneav>
When you boot off the cdrom, and start installing to the hard drive, linux uses exactly the same chroot command to get the work done.
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it's just not a tool that most users interact with.
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<GGD>
ahh and you put that into the OS as a sub directory
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<sbalneav>
Going afk for a bit, gotta move some servers around.
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<GGD>
ahh thank you sbalneav
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<GGD>
hmmm
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now my server doesn't want to get packages
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<johnny>
if you're doing it from the chroot , you do need to copy /etc/resolv.conf into the chroot
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<GGD>
oh ok
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<johnny>
that is.. if your problem is resolving dns
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<GGD>
it keeps giving me a package can not be found erro
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rror
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<johnny>
didyou run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
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<GGD>
not yet
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i jsut did
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and it failed
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hold on
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http://ltsp.pastebin.com/d71edc0e8
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<GGD>
any ideas?
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<johnny>
remove the stupid cdrom line from your chroot sources.list
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<GGD>
ok...
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how do i do that?
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<johnny>
delete it
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open up the file.. delete the line..
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or pop in the cd.. if you have one..
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<GGD>
ok johnny i am running it now
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i deleted the line
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