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Channel log from 6 November 2013   (all times are UTC)

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<bennabiy>
vagrantc: did you get a chance to look over it? (I am going to eat and then be back, but wanted to check in)
00:12* vagrantc looks
00:17
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: basic-mint-conf lacks closing fi ;; esac
00:17
<bennabiy>
yes, I fixed that
00:17
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: and set-mint-dist missing fi
00:18
and still has --no-check-gpg
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00:18
<bennabiy>
yes, that is fixed as well
00:19
<vagrantc>
and --force-yes
00:19
<bennabiy>
I will remove that and test it
00:19
while I eat I will let it build
00:19
<vagrantc>
it doesn't appear fixed on the review...
00:19
<bennabiy>
no, I need to push
00:20
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: since earl-packages isn't early enough, put linuxmint-keyring in late-packages
00:22* vagrantc forgets why the checks need to be mint_dist || lsb_release_i && -z option_dist_value
00:23
<bennabiy>
I think the reason for the needing accept-unsigned is because the chroot is ubuntu before those packages are installed
00:23
<vagrantc>
why canat you just set mint-dist
00:23
bennabiy: yes, you need to do what --apt-keys does
00:23
in order to fix that
00:23
<bennabiy>
ok, I need to go, but please keep putting what you see and when I get back I will address it
00:23
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: ideally through adding your keyring to the apt-keys var
00:24
<bennabiy>
how?
00:24
ok, I am really going now
00:25
<vagrantc>
like all the other vars, APT_KEYS=/path/to/your/keyring, making sure not to overwrite the existing setting
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00:49
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: i'm going to just make some changes and merge it
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01:02
<bennabiy>
back
01:02
what changes are you going to make?
01:03
please wait
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01:06
<vagrantc>
merging basic-conf-mint into set-mint-dist
01:08
<bennabiy>
something is still not right with it
01:09
I will compile the changes into one file, and then you can check it, but let me make sure it works
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01:29
<bennabiy>
why would the commandline options not pass the arguments to the configure stage?
01:31
vagrantc: I am running into the issue that unless I set DIST before 000-basic-configuration, then the only option I have is to force mint to change the dist, or to do some fancy codework...
01:32
because if I allow for mint to detect DIST as existing, or my updated value, it is always going to be existing, which by default will be the codename of the mint dist...
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01:34
<bennabiy>
This was why we were needing to do special casing... Do you see what I mean?
01:34
I updated the code a bit
01:41* vagrantc looks
01:41
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: i think i see
01:42
<bennabiy>
if I make a mint user have to put --mint-dist blah and in 001-set-mint-dist force DIST to the matching ubuntu, then it works
01:43
but if I try to have DIST=${DIST:-$(sed -n 's/base_codename=//p' "/usr/share/mintsources/$MINT_DIST/mintsources.conf")}
01:43
DIST will always be set at that point, to the wrong setting
01:43
which was why we originally made the changes in 000-basic-configuration
01:46
just pushed update
01:46
<vagrantc>
doh.
01:46
<bennabiy>
2495
01:47
doh?
01:47
<vagrantc>
i had something i think should handle that...
01:47
<bennabiy>
I have a test server up which I can actively test a build on.
01:48
<vagrantc>
drop apt_get_opts and debootstrapopts if you're just setting them to the same thing :p
01:50
but it conflicted with your changes
01:50
<bennabiy>
pushed
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01:52
<bennabiy>
If I use APT_KEYS will it use the file on my machine to validate the chroot?
01:52
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: yes
01:53
well, it will only validate apt keys
01:53
not debootstrap
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01:54
<bennabiy>
yes
01:54
debootstrap is ubuntu, with key in place
01:54
<vagrantc>
good
01:55
<bennabiy>
ok, so check the code now.
01:55
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: i think the remaining changes will be easier for me to just change in code than explain
01:57
<bennabiy>
I think I got it
01:58
check now. APT_KEYS in place... I am testing a build by just running ltsp-build-client and seeing if I get a valid chroot with no errors
01:59
Do you know if I can have two build processes going at the same time?
02:00
can I in two term windows build both a i386 and a amd64 client?
02:00
<vagrantc>
if you specify a different --chroot
02:00
<bennabiy>
yes, diff arch
02:00
<vagrantc>
or a different arch has a different chroot by default
02:00* bennabiy nods
02:01
<vagrantc>
if they finish at the same time there might be problems
02:01
but nothing that re-running ltsp-update-kernels shouldn't fix
02:02
<bennabiy>
I think I spaced them enough apart
02:02
Did you see the most recent changes?
02:04
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: i keep pulling and rewriting my fixes...
02:06
<bennabiy>
I am done... how would you say... for me "It Works™"
02:06
are you pulling from my repo?
02:06
I mean my ... mind blank
02:07
branch!
02:09
heh, when it does its build image and tftproot, it picks up the second install... wonder how that'll do
02:10
vagrantc: I appreciate you putting up with my random mutterings, and attempts at coding.
02:10
I hope I get the chance to meet you some day
02:11
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: seems plausible :)
02:12
<bennabiy>
wow, they didnt collide
02:12
second build still going strong
02:12
How long are you going to be in Maine?
02:13
<vagrantc>
just till tomorrow
02:13
<bennabiy>
If you feel like taking a day trip with your friend, we have a deli in Rutland, VT, or a 24 hour deli in Oneonta, NY and a few cafes in Mass..
02:14
Tell me you are going there, and I will call them and make sure they take good care of you :)
02:14
<vagrantc>
i will have to take a rain check :)
02:14
<bennabiy>
or when you get back to the west coast, we have a 24 hour deli in Vista, CA
02:15
or Manitou Springs, CO or Boulder, CO
02:15
;)
02:15
<vagrantc>
so many choices! :)
02:16
<bennabiy>
and more coming ... we like serving people
02:16
We are building a 24 hour one where I am at right now
02:19
<vagrantc>
doh. my new code doesn't properly support a configuration file
02:20
<bennabiy>
Are you testing your code on a mint box?
02:20
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: paste.debian.net/64237
02:20
just on my brain
02:22
and there's n way to build ubuntu on mint...
02:22
<bennabiy>
wouldnt if [ -n "$option_mint_dist_value" ]; then
02:22
+ MINT_DIST="$MINT_DIST"
02:22
have to be if [ -n "$option_mint_dist_value" ]; then
02:22
+ MINT_DIST="$option_mint_dist_value"
02:22
<vagrantc>
correct
02:23
<bennabiy>
I do like how you check that.
02:23
<vagrantc>
now you're the reviewer :)
02:24
<bennabiy>
I wonder if it would be possible to just put a flag like --non-mint --dist
02:24
<vagrantc>
also want to use longhang lsb_release stuff
02:24
or --mint-dist=none
02:24
<bennabiy>
you also left in reference to LSB_RELEASE_C but took out the variable set
02:25
line 12
02:25
<vagrantc>
it sets it and uses it later
02:25
it's line 4.5
02:25
i.e.$ot represented in the diff
02:26
<bennabiy>
ahh
02:26
<vagrantc>
this is just a diff against your code
02:26
<bennabiy>
I just wondered why it showed the LSB_RELEASE_I but not C
02:27
I get it now
02:27
<vagrantc>
it gives a certain nu ber of lines of ccontext
02:27
<bennabiy>
I missed that
02:27
so, what does your code not account for? making a non mint chroot?
02:28
<vagrantc>
yup, which can be fixed later
02:28
<bennabiy>
Is it possible to make a flag which has no options, just an existance which makes it ignore all mint related stuff?
02:28
something like --extra-help
02:29
<vagrantc>
yes, but i'd rather re-use --mint-dist=none
02:29
and special-case none
02:29
<bennabiy>
I like that
02:29
<vagrantc>
ok, so i'll merge this
02:30
<bennabiy>
want me to test your code?
02:30
<vagrantc>
eventually
02:30
<bennabiy>
I would hate for another merge which actually doesn't work
02:30
<vagrantc>
:)
02:31
<bennabiy>
mine currently works and I can make it do that test like you had which would case none
02:32
<vagrantc>
well, i could see some issues that this should fix
02:35
see another rror in my code
02:36
<bennabiy>
the lack of the fi?
02:37
should be a fi at line 11, or somewhere later.
02:37
<vagrantc>
yeah, used elif instead
02:41
<bennabiy>
I have an idea about the non ability to make ubuntu chroot
02:41
let me try something and pastebin you
02:43
<vagrantc>
already got --mint-dist=none implemented
02:44
hopefully they never name a dist "none"
02:45
<bennabiy>
heh... linuxmint - were number none!
02:46
LinuxMint None - the low-cal "mint"
02:46
I have about 15 more minutes
02:46
I told my wife I would be back around then
02:48
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: it should be merged by then :)
02:48
<bennabiy>
gret
02:48
great
02:48
Do you have children?
02:48
<vagrantc>
i'm ready to merge what i have
02:49
<bennabiy>
mind if I look at it?
02:51
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: full diff from ltsp: pastebin.debian.net/64241
02:52
bennabiy: we can drop early_packages too, now
02:53
<bennabiy>
because it is the same as the ubuntu right?
02:53
<vagrantc>
yes
02:53
might be good to make a new keyring-packages option... since if someone uses --late-packages on mint they won't end up with a keyting package
02:55
guess we could also check if dist = mint_dist before mangling dist
02:56
that would handle dist set via commandline or environment or configuration file
02:56
<bennabiy>
one change
02:56
<vagrantc>
bring it on!
02:56
<bennabiy>
doesnt BLAH="" still = an empty string?
02:57
<vagrantc>
yup
02:57
could use unset instead, i suppose
02:58
<bennabiy>
if [ "$MINT_DIST" = "none" ]; then
02:58
MINT_DIST=""
02:58
fi
02:58
would not change the ability to put a different DIST in
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02:59
<vagrantc>
true
02:59
<bennabiy>
if at 67 would still = true
02:59
well... actually, the dist would then be set through 001-set-dist
03:00
because you would not use mint-dist none without specifying the ubuntu/debian dist you wanted to use
03:00
<vagrantc>
to install ubuntu on mint requires setting DIST
03:00
<bennabiy>
yes
03:01
<vagrantc>
a reasonable compromise, i hpe
03:01
<bennabiy>
most people would want a mint chroot on mint... I know of many who do not like the ubuntu artwork and such
03:01
so are you going to unset instead?
03:01
<vagrantc>
nah
03:02* vagrantc wants to get the functional merge ovr with and deal wit trivial patches here on out
03:03
<bennabiy>
ok, so how can I test it?
03:03
can you pastebin me the final version of 001-set-mint-dist without the diff formatting?
03:05
<vagrantc>
maybe i'm overconfident, but i think we should push what's here and fix it later
03:06
<bennabiy>
did you want to remove early from mint stanza?
03:06
I noticed it was still there
03:07
<vagrantc>
i did
03:10
<bennabiy>
umm your code you pasted me is missing ;; I think
03:11
<vagrantc>
where?
03:11
<bennabiy>
I mean " ..line...
03:12
66
03:12
<vagrantc>
so right
03:12
<bennabiy>
+ if [ -n "$MINT_DIST ] && [ -z "$option_dist_value" ]; then
03:13
^
03:13
bah
03:13
_________________________^
03:13
<vagrantc>
gt it
03:15
bennabiy: it's all pushed now
03:16
<jammcq>
I see a missing "
03:16
<bennabiy>
where?
03:16
<jammcq>
-n "$MINT_DIST
03:16
needs a trailling "
03:16
<bennabiy>
yes
03:16
<vagrantc>
yup, pushed upstream
03:17
<bennabiy>
pushed the " with it, right?
03:17
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: yup
03:17* bennabiy grins
03:17
<bennabiy>
how about whitespace?
03:17
I am running the code on my test machine
03:17
<vagrantc>
trailing whitespace? hrm.
03:17
<bennabiy>
one run normal, the next with none
03:18
no, I am just pulling your leg
03:18
it looked fine
03:19
<vagrantc>
there is some trailing whitespace on one line, but i'm not going to bother.
03:19
the MINT_MIRROR line
03:20
ah, pushed that too
03:21
bennabiy: so to install ubuntu chroot: --mint-dist none --dist precise
03:21
or whatever ubuntu dist you need
03:22
just --mint-dist none will fail
03:23
bennabiy: and this should mean it ships in debian soon, for what that's worth
03:24
which should trickle into ubuntu at some point
03:26
<bennabiy>
yes
03:27
I just updated my PPA to build the latest code (which is matching upstream) so those who need to use it can.
03:27
I will update my !LinuxMint
03:27
!LinuxMint
03:27
<ltsp`>
LinuxMint: LinuxMint: Now Available: https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support (Does not support LMDE yet, sorry) The client build process might be a bit unstable. To build a working Mint chroot, as root, type: MINT_DIST=<codename> ltsp-build-client --arch <arch> --accept-unsigned-packages
03:29
<bennabiy>
!learn as LinuxMint Now Available: https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support (Does not support LMDE yet, sorry) to build a non mint chroot, as root, type: ltsp-build-client --arch <arch> --mint-dist none --dist <precise...>
03:29
<ltsp`>
(learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
03:30
<vagrantc>
learn FOO as
03:30
<bennabiy>
!learn LinuxMint as Now Available: https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support (Does not support LMDE yet, sorry) to build a non mint chroot, as root, type: ltsp-build-client --arch <arch> --mint-dist none --dist <precise...>
03:30
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
03:30
<bennabiy>
!forget LinuxMint 1
03:30
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
03:30
<bennabiy>
!LinuxMint
03:30
<ltsp`>
LinuxMint: Now Available: https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support (Does not support LMDE yet, sorry) to build a non mint chroot, as root, type: ltsp-build-client --arch <arch> --mint-dist none --dist <precise...>
03:30
<bennabiy>
make sense?
03:30
<vagrantc>
sure.. worked ok?
03:31
<bennabiy>
I have not tested the none yet... doing that now
03:31
<vagrantc>
the --arch is optional
03:32
<bennabiy>
yes
03:32
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: could probably shorten the factoid
03:32
<bennabiy>
Tell me what it should say, and I will say it
03:32
Or you can edit it how you will
03:32
<vagrantc>
i.e. drop now available, the lmde bit, etc
03:32
and the non-mint part
03:33
<bennabiy>
!forget LinuxMint
03:33
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
03:33
<vagrantc>
we've got backups
03:33
<bennabiy>
!learn LinuxMint as https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support
03:33
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
03:33
<bennabiy>
!LinuxMint
03:33
<ltsp`>
LinuxMint: https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support
03:33
<bennabiy>
better?
03:33
<vagrantc>
seems a little cleaner
03:34
bennabiy: congrats!
03:34
<bennabiy>
I can put the info on the PPA to tell how to build a non mint
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03:34
<vagrantc>
mint on mint worked, though?
03:34
yeah, exaclty
03:34
<bennabiy>
Well, somehow I bombed my tftp server
03:35
I need to fix that
03:35
seems my doing two at once did actually mess it up
03:35
<vagrantc>
though mostly i think that was alkisg being pedantic :)
03:35
<bennabiy>
As long as it works, it works
03:35
<vagrantc>
re-running it should fix it
03:35
<bennabiy>
rerunning what?
03:35
<vagrantc>
ltsp-update-kernels
03:36
one they're both built
03:37
<bennabiy>
nope
03:37
still bombed
03:38
<vagrantc>
hmmm
03:39
<bennabiy>
the tftp i386 folder and redid ltsp-update-kernels
03:39
it is still not working
03:40
I wonder if I should remove and reinstall?
03:45
<vagrantc>
did it fail to finish ltsp-build-client?
03:46
<bennabiy>
nope
03:46
although I still didnt test none
03:47
teting nw
03:48
hmm, rev number is lower than my old repo, so build is going to fail on my recipe...
03:48
do i need to delete old packages?
03:48
<vagrantc>
you definitely should get rid of improperly versioned packages
03:49
these should probably be ltsp 5.4.6~bzrNNNN
03:51
<bennabiy>
it is still calling itself 5.4.3
03:51
# bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version {debversion}+r{revno}+p{revno:pkg}
03:51
lp:~bennabiy/ltsp/ltsp-LM
03:51
nest pkg lp:~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/ltsp-debian-packaging debian
03:53
<vagrantc>
the debian/changelog file is probably 5.4.3
03:55
<bennabiy>
yes
03:56
probably
03:57
well, it seems to be pulling all the right files,
03:57
probably safe to say it works
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03:59
<vagrantc>
or ltsp 5.4.5+bzrNNNN
04:00
<bennabiy>
well, I should be getting to bed.
04:00* vagrantc too
04:00
<bennabiy>
11 PM here, and I am an hour past when I said I was going to ...
04:00
I will find out in the morning if it all works. I will do a fresh install and test it
04:01
<vagrantc>
i'll be transiting most of tomorrow, but might have a moment here or there to check in
04:01
<bennabiy>
have a safe trip
04:05
ok, PPA updated with upstream, including translations
04:05
night!
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04:52
<alkisg>
alkisg 7012 0.5 0.0 3572 708 pts/7 S+ 06:50 0:00 xatomwait LTSP_COMMAND
04:52
alkisg 6989 0.0 0.0 6624 808 pts/4 S+ 06:50 0:00 xprop -spy -root LTSP_COMMAND
04:52
Does that mean that xprop only needs 100Kb more RAM than xatomwait?
04:52
Why was xatomwait preferred instead?
04:53
(I mean, implement a .c program instead of just using xprop...)
05:01
<vagrantc>
alkisg: using xprop in a loop was really brutal on the client
05:01
<alkisg>
vagrantc: xprop runs one, xatomwait runs in a loop
05:01
<vagrantc>
but not sure if some of those options worked as well
05:01
<alkisg>
*once
05:01
Meaning that it has its own internal loop, we don't need to call it in a loop
05:02
We could implement an ltsp-localappsd as a "daemon", xprop -spy | while read output; do execute it...
05:02
And we'd kill it as usually with deamons, or it would exit when X exited
05:02
<vagrantc>
worth testing
05:03
i do recall the xprop only implementation was brutal on low power clients
05:03
but it might be possible to do better
05:03
<alkisg>
We already depend/call xprop, just with `-set` instead of `-spy`...
05:04
So sharing a program twice might even save ram
05:04
(memory sharing, I don't know the details of code segments sharing in linux but it should be there)
05:04
<vagrantc>
xatomwait definitely improved things, but i'm open to see something better that relies on existing code
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05:09
<vagrantc>
alkisg: -spy doesn't seem to work on unset props
05:09
<alkisg>
vagrantc: it needs initialization
05:09
xprop -root -f LTSP_COMMAND 8s -set LTSP_COMMAND ""
05:09
<vagrantc>
right
05:12
alkisg: hope the mint implementation merge looks ok
05:12
of course botched something before mergin
05:12* alkisg hasn't used ltsp-build-client in ages, don't know how much I can test there... :/
05:13
<vagrantc>
so there are two cleanup commits... had they got caught minutes ealier
05:13
alkisg: for someone who doesn't use it, you have a lot to offer :)
05:13
<alkisg>
:)
05:15
vagrantc: http://paste.debian.net/64251/
05:17* vagrantc wonders how that compared to the original code
05:18
<vagrantc>
could even do while read value equals command opts
05:18
skip the sed
05:18
<alkisg>
vagrantc: the alternative idea is to run from the client: output=$(ssh server create-socket-and-listen-for-command-written-on-it)
05:18
So we wouldn't depend on X at all
05:19
<vagrantc>
could be cool
05:20
<alkisg>
Where can users safely create sockets?
05:20
<vagrantc>
no idea
05:21* alkisg googles for mkfifo...
05:21
<vagrantc>
in /tmp .... useing mktemp -d
05:26
<alkisg>
ssh localhost cat /bin/ls | md5sum -
05:27
==> ok, we can even get binary files that way :D
05:28* vagrantc finds a way to sleep
05:28
<vagrantc>
alkisg: keep schemeing!
05:29
<alkisg>
Good night!
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05:52
<alkisg>
client: ssh localhost sh -c "'mkfifo /tmp/ltsptest && cat /tmp/ltsptest; rm -f /tmp/ltsptest'" | md5sum -
05:52
server side: echo command > /tmp/ltsptest
05:52
That way we can run commands on the client from the server... replacing xatomwait etc
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<alkisg>
*without the md5sum - bit
05:53
It's also binary-safe
05:54
And encypted etc etc
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07:01
<FrozenZi1>
Morning!
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07:04
<FrozenZia>
We're doing an ltsp-pnp install today. Plan was to go with LXDE for the desktop-environment, but we've managed to NOT install it, and our image creation is already underway.
07:05
So we're forging ahead with this Ubuntu 12.04 install that is using gnome-classic.
07:30* alkisg is playing with xatomwait and xprop:
07:30
<alkisg>
100 instances of xatomwait need 20 mb ram and make the system crawl
07:31
100 instances of xprop need 21 mb ram and the system doesn't crawl at all
07:32
Load average: 24...
07:33
...40... :)
07:40
So xatomwait needs about 2% of my CPU, and xprop needs zero CPU
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07:45
<FrozenZia>
Hmmm... our client doesn't seem to be getting an IP address on network boot. Is that a DHCP-server problem or a DNS-masq problem? (or neither?)
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07:51
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: did you run ltsp-config dnsmasq --overwrite ?
07:51
Also, do you have a router in that network, to provide dhcp?
07:53
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: 1st question - no, we hadn't. That did it, THANKS!
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<alkisg>
sbalneav, stgraber, ogra_: any comments on replacing xatomwait with xprop -spy? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1248438
07:55* alkisg will read the irclogs later...
07:58
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: is that command needed nowadays for some reason, or did we just have a strange situation? It doesn't seem to be in the guides we were following (Asmo's and yours).
07:58
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
07:58
It's mentioned there
07:58
(that's my "guide"...)
08:00
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: sorry, but unless I need to refresh my cache, I'm looking at your guide and there's no --overwrite there...
08:01
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: the --overwrite part isn't needed
08:01
If the file that it tries to create exists, you get a warning
08:02
I.e. ltsp-config dnsmasq (once) => all ok, (twice) ==> file exists
08:02
So the --overwrite part is only needed the second time you run it
08:02
<FrozenZia>
got it.
08:02
<alkisg>
bbiab
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<FrozenZia>
Ooookay, we maybe have an explanation -- we actually had given the ltsp-config dnsmasq command, but only after that was our network properly in place.
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08:20
<alkisg>
Yup, that's a usual cause, that's why I automatically suggest the --overwrite parameter :D
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10:35
<teacher>
I have set up a client to boot from the local image I copied to its disk, instead of the image located on ther server. Now the client boots normally, but the user's information is not available. I cannot login with any user. The file lts.conf is totally ignored. What am I missing?
10:39
<Hyperbyte>
teacher, I'm not entirely sure. You should wait for alkisg, he's the resident LTSP oracle.
10:40
One thing I can think of is that it might help to place the lts.conf inside the local image, in /etc/ltsp/
10:40
I believe LTSP still looks there as alternative to tftp
10:40
<teacher>
I'll try that. thanks
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10:42
<roces4>
hello
10:42
<Hyperbyte>
Hi!
10:42
<roces4>
i have a problem in ltsp
10:42
<Hyperbyte>
!ask
10:42
<ltsp`>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
10:43
<roces4>
how can i runnining rdp in client to windows serwer terminal
10:43
<Hyperbyte>
See:
10:43
!lts.conf
10:43
<ltsp`>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
10:43
<roces4>
i know
10:43
<Hyperbyte>
Looks at SCREEN_01...12 options
10:43
-s
10:45
<roces4>
this is my configuration in /var/lib/tftboot/ltsp/i386
10:46
LOCALL_APPS = true
10:46
LOcALL_APPS = rdesktop, xterm
10:46
SCREEN_01 = rdesktop - f 172.16.1.230
10:47
and when client booting is ubuntu screen login
10:47
no windows :(
10:49
please help me
10:49
where is wrong
10:50
11:42] <Hyperbyte> Looks at SCREEN_01...12 options [11:42] <Hyperbyte> -s
10:51
how
10:52
could you help me
10:58
<Hyperbyte>
You have all kinds of errors in your lts.conf file, at least in what you posted above
10:58
Pastebin your lts.conf file
10:58
!pastebin
10:58
<ltsp`>
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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11:03
<Burned1>
hello all o/
11:05
<roces4>
this is link to my lts.conf
11:05
http://pastebin.com/WteFcaz2
11:05
<Hyperbyte>
Burned1, hi!
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11:06
<roces4>
hyperbyte can you see this file
11:06
<Hyperbyte>
roces4, yes. So what happens with the client?
11:07
<roces4>
all the clients are booting to ubuntu serwer
11:07
i need that all the clients boot to windows serwer terminal for ex . 172.16.1.123
11:08
maybe the image is wrong?
11:08
<Hyperbyte>
roces4, no
11:08
Problem is in your lts.conf.
11:08
Why do you have SCREEN_01 and SCREEN_02 with two different servers?
11:08
<roces4>
what problem?
11:09
because i have 2 serwers, first for agents and second for supervisor
11:09
deafult all clients don't see this serwer only LDM ubuntu login
11:09
:(
11:11
<Hyperbyte>
roces4, use SCREEN_07=rdesktop
11:11
(with the options)
11:11
I.e, change SCREEN_01 to SCREEN_07
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11:18
<roces4>
maybe all clients don't have rdesktop aplication?
11:20
i go check this change, i have to ltsp-update-image?
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11:24
<Hyperbyte>
roces4, no
11:25
<roces4>
ok only change screen
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11:33
<Burned1>
anyone know if is possible to install acrobat reader on clients?
11:34
i have installed it on the server with canonical repository
11:34
(ubuntu server)
11:34
then i have upgraded the image
11:35
but on clients i cant use it
11:35
i wrong something?
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11:37
<Hyperbyte>
Burned1, are you using fat or thin clients?
11:37
<Burned1>
fat
11:37
if i chroot...
11:37
i can't do apt-get install acroread...
11:38
no package is found
11:38
<roces4>
hyperbyte
11:39
all client booting to ubuntu serwer :(
11:39
they don;t see file lts.conf
11:40
chroot ?
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<roces4>
what i do that the all clients booting to windows serwer terminal
11:43
i think that all clients haven't rdesktop aplication?
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11:47
<roces4>
hyper are you?
11:51
help me please
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12:02
<Hyperbyte>
Burned1, run apt-get update first
12:02
roces4, not sure. Wait for alkisg, he knows.
12:02
<Burned1>
yup, done
12:02
i modded the source.list in the chroot
12:02
installed and works well
12:03
thanks for help :)
12:05
<roces4>
all client login to screen ubuntu
12:08
not to serwer terminal windows but lts.conf have SCREEN _07 = rdesktop
12:08
why
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<roces4>
when alskig be here
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<roces4>
call2$%like7
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12:59
<gbit>
Hello, I'm using Gnome 3.4.2 on Debian Wheezy to LTSP users. I want to upgrade Gnome by Wheezy Backports, this will work with ltsp?
13:06
<highvoltage>
gbit: are you using fat clients?
13:06
<gbit>
highvoltage: I use nfs
13:07
<highvoltage>
gbit: and the ltsp machines, do they run the Gnome session locally or from the server?
13:07
<gbit>
highvoltage: I guess is from the server
13:07
pretty sure
13:07
<highvoltage>
(I'm just a bit surprised because last when I tried it Gnome 3.4 didn't work on ltsp thin clients)
13:08
<gbit>
highvoltage: So is too risky to update?
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13:12
<highvoltage>
might be a good idea to try it in a VM first
13:12
gbit: I'm kind of curious to try it myself again as well
13:12
gbit: how is performance? did it run ok?
13:12
<gbit>
yeah is super fast on a quad core 8GB ram
13:13
I will try on a VM first
13:18
<FrozenZia>
Ok, this has got to be a stupid question, hopefully you'll forgive - is ltsp-pnp's default that clients are FAT or thin?
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13:53
<Hyperbyte>
FrozenZia, by default ltsp-pnp switches between fat and thin I believe.
13:53
If clients have 512MB ram or more they're fat, if they have less than that amount, they're thin.
13:57
<FrozenZia>
Hyperbyte: tx, and I presume there is an lts.conf setting that I can use to "force" thin or fat?
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14:01
<roces4>
hey
14:02
can you help me?
14:04
i had problem in ltsp server , all client boot to ubuntu server not to windows server terminal
14:04
lts.conf is configured
14:05
<Hyperbyte>
FrozenZia, sure.
14:05
<roces4>
hyper help me?
14:07
<Hyperbyte>
roces4, I'm quite busy. Stick around.
14:07
<roces4>
understand
14:07
<elias_a>
roces4: It is easier to notice your messages if you highlight properly.
14:07
<roces4>
i have to run this client
14:08
elias
14:08
could you help me
14:08
?
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15:00
<other_other_joe>
roces4, pastebin your lts.conf and I'll take a look
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<gbit>
Does anyone runs Gnome 3.10 on ltsp?
15:35
<bennabiy>
What is the proper environment variable to set to change from Ubuntu to Debian for example
15:35
VENDOR=?
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16:47
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: did the tests work out ok?
16:48
<bennabiy>
TFTP would not work for me
16:48
PXE-11E error
16:49
<vagrantc>
i don't see how that code would break tftp...
16:49
<bennabiy>
I am going to reinstall OS to get a clean slate, and then test, unless you know quick fix
16:49
remember I tried to do two builds at same time
16:50
<vagrantc>
check the permissions on the files in your tftp dir, make sure the're world-readable
16:50
<bennabiy>
Good call!
16:50
thank you, I seem to remember that being an issue
16:50
rebooting now
16:51
<vagrantc>
although ltsp-update-kernels should fix the permissions
16:51
<bennabiy>
that did not fix the problem
16:51
<vagrantc>
another thing is if it's trying to download from a router rather than the ltsp server
16:52
if you don't have your dhcp configration set up correctly
16:52
<bennabiy>
as in the next-server not getting passed?
16:52
<vagrantc>
yeah
16:52
<bennabiy>
now, in default/tftpd-hpa should the bind address be 0.0.0.0:69?
16:53
<vagrantc>
haven't used tftpd-hpa i ages...
16:53
but i can't imagine the defaults would be wrong
16:54
it also may be using /srv/tftp rather than /var/lib/tftpboot
16:54
so make sure the permisions are correct in all places
16:55
<bennabiy>
seems a reboot fixed it
16:56* vagrantc is perplexed
16:56
<bennabiy>
looks like my test using none produced ubuntu
16:56
let me try a mint
16:56
<vagrantc>
that was the goal, yes?
16:56
<bennabiy>
yes
16:57
<vagrantc>
you tested ubuntu instead of mint?
16:58
<bennabiy>
testing mint now ( I tested the --mint-dist none )
16:59
I thought I had tested mint, and build went fine, just never got a chance to boot it
16:59
now building mint again, and will test booting it
16:59
The only issue is if I want to do debian, then I would need to issue VENDOR=Debian (right?
16:59
)
17:00
<vagrantc>
yes, but that would be straight debian, and you'd have to specify the dist
17:00
<bennabiy>
yes.
17:01
what is the current? Jesse?
17:01
<vagrantc>
jessie is in developent, wheezy is stable
17:01
<bennabiy>
ok
17:01
<vagrantc>
sid is always unstable
17:01
<bennabiy>
yes
17:01
I remember that much
17:01
I used debian a lot more back in squeeze
17:02
<vagrantc>
and you had said lmde was actually pre-wheezy release, i think
17:03
but basically doing the same thing with Debian... adding the mint specific mirrors and all that
17:03
and a few mint packages... should work, theory
17:04
<bennabiy>
Then I will do a branch for LMDE support
17:04
unless _you_ want to do it...
17:04
;)
17:05
<vagrantc>
although LMDE's codename is debian? that'll be fun.
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17:06
<bennabiy>
yes
17:06
<vagrantc>
oh, it has it's own repository?
17:06
<bennabiy>
yes
17:06
so no file swapping like ubuntu
17:06
should be straightforward
17:06
<vagrantc>
so it doesn't actually pull from debian repos at all? that'll be even easier
17:06
<bennabiy>
yes
17:06
and uses the same linuxmint-keyring
17:07* vagrantc wonders if it will sync up with wheezy at least
17:07
<bennabiy>
they are about to issue a new release... should sync with something
17:07
<vagrantc>
presumably jessie or sid
17:08
better get the newer ltsp uploaded to debian soon, then :)
17:08
<bennabiy>
yes
17:09
<vagrantc>
was hoping to get it done this past weekend, hopeflly by this coming week
17:09
got plenty of room for virtual machines, so maybe i'll give it a whirl
17:13
<bennabiy>
seems LMDE follows testing, but then stales out until next release
17:13
<vagrantc>
weird
17:14
<bennabiy>
I do not claim to understand it...
17:15
like I said in the past, if I want debian, I will use debian :)
17:16
booting mint chroot
17:17
<vagrantc>
if i work on lmde a all, i'll wait till after i get the next debian uload in.
17:18
as that has at least one patchfor libpam-sshauth support i want
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17:56
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: problem!
17:58
while our patch allows for the building, it does not pull a mint chroot
18:01
Hopefully he will read the logs.
18:01
Somehow late packages are not being pulled.
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18:26
<cliebow>
bennabiy, he comes and goes..he ll be back
18:26
<bennabiy>
yes
18:26
He is flying today
18:27
<cliebow>
ohh..back to Portland then
18:27
<bennabiy>
yep
18:27
not sure how long his flight will be
18:27
<cliebow>
he was with us over the weekend
18:27
<bennabiy>
are you native to the area?
18:27
<cliebow>
yeah Maine
18:27
<bennabiy>
Maine is beautiful
18:27
<cliebow>
you bet 8~)
18:28
i look out over acadia from my porch
18:29
<bennabiy>
that is beautiful
18:29
<elias_a>
It is very good to hear that there are beautiful things in US of A.
18:29
<bennabiy>
elias_a welcome back
18:29
<elias_a>
Lately I have only read ugly things about US.
18:30
bennabiy: How come "back"?
18:30
<bennabiy>
I had not seen you around in a while
18:31
elias_a: USA is very beautiful
18:32
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Oh - I have just been silent.
18:32
<bennabiy>
ah
18:32
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Been idling all the time
18:32
Busy bee :)
18:33
bennabiy: What I was about to say you guys really ought to do something about the political climate there..
18:33* bennabiy puzzles...
18:34
<elias_a>
The stuff NSA has been doing has made people really angry in EU.
18:34
Not to mention that it is a really big problem for US companies.
18:35
<bennabiy>
elias_a: Please do not get offended at this, but it does not take much to make anyone really angry... It is all propaganda
18:35
EVERYONE has an agenda, good or bad
18:35
<elias_a>
I know this is OT - just wanted to make sure that we are really angry.
18:36
<bennabiy>
the governments of this world blush like they would NEVER do such a thing, but it is nothing new under the sun
18:36
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Well - to put it short: we're not going to buy the US agenda anymore.
18:36
bennabiy: Are you familiar with the US-EU Safe Harbour agreement?
18:37
<bennabiy>
I am non political
18:37
<elias_a>
Well, that's not politics. It is trade.
18:38
But never mind.
18:39
Let's forget about this as it truly is OT.
18:39
<bennabiy>
elias_a: Finally, you say something I can agree with :)
18:39
<elias_a>
bennabiy: How's life in general?
18:39
:)
18:40
<bennabiy>
Well, overall.
18:40
Yourself?
18:41
Can I link you something to read?
18:41
<elias_a>
Oh - it is wet and dark autumn and days are getting short. Work as usual until the end of year and then some time between jobs.
18:42
<bennabiy>
http://twelvetribes.org/articles/cultural-spillover
18:42
Please let me know what you think
18:42
<elias_a>
Looking forward to revive an old hobby during the winter: hiking on the ice of the baltic sea.
18:43
<bennabiy>
I bet that is nice
18:45
<elias_a>
Challenging but nice.
18:46
I'm looking forward to do a trip that was done during the Finnish civil war in 1918.
18:46
bennabiy: Do you know the writer?
18:46
<bennabiy>
yes
18:47
<jammcq>
oh, that sounds so cold
18:48
<elias_a>
You could tell him/her the following: nobody in Sweden or in any of the Nordic countries would even dream of motivating the spanking ban with the societal outcome.
18:48
The essential thing is that spanking is bad per se.
18:49
And comparison of Sweden and US is a bit problematic as the violence is concentrating into some areas where the immigrants live.
18:50
It would be interesting to look at the statistics of Finland side by side.
18:51
<bennabiy>
did you actually read the whole thing?
18:51
<elias_a>
Yes, sort of.
18:51
<bennabiy>
sort of is a no :)
18:51
<elias_a>
Did I miss something?
18:54
<bennabiy>
elias_a: I think a lot of people "miss something" but it is ok. You shall know a tree by its fruit
18:56
I could probably offend at least half the people in the room by one or two statements, but that is not why I am here :)
18:56
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Well, I certainly know that the state of swedish society has more to do with the demographic and economical change than the spanking of children.
18:57* bennabiy grins.
18:58
<bennabiy>
elias_a: Somehow I think you and I are bound to be like fire and ice...
18:59
<elias_a>
The problem with social sciences is always that correlation and causality are difficult to differentiate.
18:59
bennabiy: Could be but that article is really jumping to conclusions.
19:00
bennabiy: Test it by sending it to a peer reviewed scientific journal. You will see.
19:00
<bennabiy>
well, it actually is sourced from peer reviewed journals an a very thick study
19:01
It just states the facts gathered in those studies
19:01
look at the inline references
19:01
a lot of the statistics are from the BRA's released numbers
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19:02
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Has the whole text been in a peer reviewed journal? Or only the parts that are cited?
19:03
<bennabiy>
alkisg: how can I make a default LDM theme stick for mint chroot?
19:03* alkisg waves
19:03
<bennabiy>
I put my custom theme in and it seems that it gets lost in packaging
19:04
when I actually build the client, it is not there
19:04
<alkisg>
You'd probably need to include it to debian/*.install...
19:04
You mean that you put it in the package, right?
19:04
<bennabiy>
yes
19:05
and where do I set the default theme to link to when building a chroot?
19:05
<alkisg>
Check the contents of the .deb to see if the files are there
19:05
<elias_a>
19:05
<alkisg>
If not, they're missing in debian/install
19:05
καλησπέρα elias_a! :)
19:06* alkisg hasn't read the ldm themes code...
19:06
<elias_a>
alkisg: Sorry - I seem to have a problem with some UTF-8 chars ;-)
19:06
<alkisg>
So I'm not sure about the details
19:06
<bennabiy>
How do I tell ltsp-build-client which theme I want to set as the default?
19:06
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Do you still speak swedish?
19:07
<bennabiy>
still?
19:07
My friend is swedish
19:08
<elias_a>
bennabiy: Sorry - I thought it was your text :)
19:08
<bennabiy>
My friend wrote it
19:08
<elias_a>
I forgot this has been discussed before ;-)
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<bennabiy>
alkisg: which package ultimately does the theme need to be in?
19:10
<alkisg>
bennabiy: really, no idea... I haven't read the themes code at all
19:10
Nor the packaging
19:19
<bennabiy>
hmm. I am trying to find where ubuntu takes over
19:22
alkisg: is there a way to pull from a PPA or local package cache when building chroot?
19:23
<alkisg>
--copy-sources-list should allow you to use the ppa...
19:23
But I haven't used ltsp-build-client since 2 years now, so I'm not sure about the details
19:26
<bennabiy>
trying that
19:31
Could I have one user have KDE as his environment, and another gnome, another mate ?
19:31
if they are thin or thick
19:33
<alkisg>
Sure
19:34
<bennabiy>
either way?
19:34
how much extra load would that put on the server?
19:35
Some of our users are KDE, most are Mate
19:35
right now I have all thin clients, but I am going to do some experimenting with fat client support
19:55
seems like it times out trying to reach my ppa
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20:02
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: can you give me some insight on how to get a mint LDM theme in place upon install?
20:02
how was your flight btw?
20:05
<vagrantc>
hasn't startd yet
20:05
bennabiy: look at /usr/share/ldm/themes
20:05
<bennabiy>
i thought it was failing at building a mint chroot, but then I realized that it was not grabbing my ppa packages when building the chroot, even when I set --copy-sourceslist
20:05
<vagrantc>
at install, you'd have to get mint to include a themes package in their archie
20:06
<bennabiy>
yes, but how do I package it?
20:06
and where in the script does it call those files?
20:07
couldn't I just copy your debian packaging, and update it for the mint theme name?
20:07
<vagrantc>
the ldm greeter binary reads them
20:07
sure
20:07
it's in the ldm-themes package in debian
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<bennabiy>
I pulled a branch of ~vagrantc/ltsp/ldm-debian-packaging
20:07
is that the current?
20:08
I have my recipe pulling from that one
20:08
<vagrantc>
that only includes the default ltsp theme, not the debian one
20:09
there are also various ldm theme packages in ubuntu
20:09
<other_other_joe>
You can pass around whatever environments and/or variables you'd like
20:09
in your lts.conf file
20:09
make a [KDE] entry, for instance, and add all the MAC's for your KDE users with a [LIKE] entry
20:09
or, they can always select the environment they'd like manually when they log into LDM
20:09
for fat clients that is
20:09
I'm not running any thin's but I believe the process is possible/similar
20:09
<bennabiy>
yes, I just noticed that the ldm package pulled down with my chroot pulls the ubuntu theme by default, but I do not know which script is doing that
20:10
<vagrantc>
probably just package dependencies/recommend
20:11
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: do you know why my ppa times out when I try to use it in chroot building?
20:11
<vagrantc>
nope
20:11
<bennabiy>
Is it possibly the apt-key?
20:13
vagrantc: which is the packaging which will give me the best options for branching my own from?
20:13
which I can set a default in of the mint theme?
20:15
<vagrantc>
search for branches named ldm-*theme on launchpad...
20:16
or the source package from debian
20:16
do' remember these urls off the top of my head
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<vagrantc>
not even sure there is a branch for ldm-themes on debian... it's a really simple package
20:20
<bennabiy>
how would I go about getting it, and being able to make my own .deb ultimately
20:20
<vagrantc>
look for debian packaging tutorials
20:20
<bennabiy>
does ldm-debian-packaging apply to ldm-themes or ldm-server or both?
20:21
<vagrantc>
neither
20:21
er
20:21
it's ldm-server and ldm, not the themes
20:23
the themes are their own source packages
20:23
you don't need a custom build of ldm
20:23
<bennabiy>
good. I can remove that :)
20:24
Can you link me to a source file which I can modify?
20:24
<vagrantc>
apt-get source ldm-themes
20:24
<bennabiy>
where is the debian ldm-theme?
20:24
ahh
20:24
thank you
20:26
<vagrantc>
apt-cache show FOO will show the source package in 'Source: BAR' (unless it's the exact same name as the package itself)
20:26
i.e. Package: FOO will only list a source entry if it's built from BAR source package
20:27
if the source package is FOO 'Source: FOO' is implied
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<vagrantc>
also, apt-get source FOO will download source package BAR if that's where it's built
20:28
but you need deb-src entries in your sources.list* entries
20:29* vagrantc wanders off
20:29
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: so, if there's an ldm theme package you want to check the sources for, apt-get source will download the sources for you
20:31
<alkisg>
sbalneav, vagrantc, stgraber: any comments on replacing xatomwait with xprop? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1248438
20:31
<bennabiy>
thank you vagrantc:
20:32
<alkisg>
It would require some packaging changes too...
20:32
<bennabiy>
where does it download the source to?
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<vagrantc>
bennabiy: problem solved, right?
20:55
<bennabiy>
as far as being able to build a client?
20:56
I am going to need to change one file to include my mint ldm theme, but not sure what to do if they will not include it with their repo
20:56
<vagrantc>
there's always debian :)
20:56
or you ppa
20:57
<bennabiy>
the problem is that my ppa times out on the chroot
20:57
I think I need to include the gpg key for it
20:57
can I include more than one?
20:58
<vagrantc>
i thnk apt-keys takes multile, yes
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<bennabiy>
so I can issue multiple APT_KEYS?
21:10
<alkisg>
Part of one of my older ltsp-build-client.conf:
21:10
APT_KEYS="
21:10
/usr/share/sch-scripts/apt-keys/ts.sch.gr-ppa.asc
21:10
/usr/share/sch-scripts/apt-keys/ts.sch.gr-repo.asc
21:10
/usr/share/sch-scripts/apt-keys/medibuntu.asc
21:10
/usr/share/sch-scripts/apt-keys/virtualbox.asc
21:10
/usr/share/sch-scripts/apt-keys/google-chrome.asc
21:10
"
21:14
<bennabiy>
thank you
21:14
Do you know the process to get a package into debian?
21:14
It might be easier to get it into debian, and then let it drift down to ubuntu
21:15
<alkisg>
What package? /me wasn't watching the conversation...
21:18
<bennabiy>
ldm-mint-theme
21:19
so I do not need to look at that awful ubuntu splash by default on install
21:19
<alkisg>
Is that the same for both debian and ubuntu? No difference between lmde and linuxmint?
21:20
<bennabiy>
well, as of right now, debian uses the joy theme, so lmde would use joy
21:21
alkisg are you an uploader for packages in universe?
21:21
<alkisg>
So ldm-lmde-theme should go to debian, and ldm-mint-theme to ubuntu?
21:21
No, I don't think so
21:22
<bennabiy>
Is stgraber?
21:22
<alkisg>
I guess so, but I don't know the process
21:28
<bennabiy>
well, I guess this is a problem for another time...
21:28
time to go for a walk :)
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22:10
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, OMG... I'm so happy you're here!
22:10
<alkisg>
Hehe, how so? :)
22:10
Had a hard time with the one asking in the morning?
22:10
<Hyperbyte>
Because you're "you" :)
22:10* alkisg hugs Hyperbyte :)
22:10
<Hyperbyte>
:-D
22:11
The guy asking this morning didn't give me such a hard time I think. :P
22:11
Was just really busy.
22:12
Oh hey, did I ever tell you I bought a house?
22:13
<alkisg>
Yup, I think you even showed me some photos of it
22:13
<Hyperbyte>
Cool
22:13
I made a video too
22:13
I bought the house quite cheap, because I knew there were some structural problems with it
22:14
Since I don't -have- to live there yet, and it's close by to my parents house, I figured 'what the heck, I'll buy it cheap and just fix all the stuff'
22:14
<alkisg>
How much does a house costs there, say, per square meter?
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<tfdl>
Hello all, how can I ssh to thin client from server? thank you!
22:28
<other_other_joe>
should be as easy as ssh $user@$thinclient
22:30
<tfdl>
Thanks other_other_joe, i got this:
22:30
administrator@ltspserver1:~$ ssh $root@10.70.103.141 usage: ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxYy] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec] [-D [bind_address:]port] [-e escape_char] [-F configfile] [-i identity_file] [-L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] [-l login_name] [-m mac_spec] [-O ctl_cmd] [-o option] [-p port] [-R [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] [-S ctl_path] [-w local_tun[:remote_tun]
22:31
it shows me the usage: ssh
22:31
so i tried this:
22:31
administrator@ltspserver1:~$ ssh root@10.70.103.141 ssh: connect to host 10.70.103.141 port 22: Connection refused administrator@ltspserver1:~$
22:32
<alkisg>
Did you install openssh-server in the chroot?
22:32
<tfdl>
i am wondering that if i need to install ssh server/service in my image?
22:32
ok alkisg, i am off to doing it.
22:33
Thanks alkisg and other_other_joe as usual.
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<tfdl>
by installing openssh-server in chroot i am now able to connect to ltsp thin client via ssh.
22:55
can you please tell me why my client date is wrong on the thin client?
22:55
it currently shows root@ltsp1933:~# date Thu Feb 25 19:01:02 MST 2010 root@ltsp1933:~#
22:56
however the current date on the server is correct.
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<tfdl>
can you please tell me why my client date is wrong on the thin client?
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